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Unknown: Oh, there's a dead
crow. Let's throw him into cat
food, Adam Curry. John C Dvorak,
Thursday, December 26
2024 this is your award winning
give our nation media
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1724, this is no agenda,
battling bird flu and
broadcasting live from 15 feet
below sea level here at stake
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and spam the Netherlands, in the
morning, everybody. I'm Adam
Curry man from Northern Silicon
Valley, where everybody wishes
you a Oh, happy holidays. I'm
John C Dvorak. It's Greg von
Buzzkill. In the morning, yeah,
baby, 805. In Amsterdam, the
Netherlands, going to midnight,
one more time
starts right? Yeah, the show
starts late here. I'm always
amazed at how many Dutch people
are listening. What do you got
something better to do on your
Thursday night? Seriously, what
is there to do on Thursday
night, really? Here, nothing. It
is. We're in the middle of the
car wash. It's gray outside.
It's just gray and rainy and
wet. It's gray and rainy here
too, but it's not rainy, it's
just wet, yeah, it's more like
England. It's just there's no
rhythms in your rain. But every
why is that everything wet? How
did that happen? I don't know.
Hey, Merry Christmas. So this is
the day after Christmas. Boxing
Day.
Yeah, Boxing Day. You know, it
took me probably 20 years, 30
years, to figure out that it
wasn't a kangaroo thing.
No, I thought, no, no, I never
thought it was a kangaroo thing.
I thought it had to do with
some, you know, Muhammad Ali or
something,
although there's going to be a
big boxing match, sure, there
was a big match or something.
And then it was, I think I was
in England when it when I now
Wasn't
there a big Netflix football
streaming extravaganza this year
at Christmas? Was this something
that was new that I was reading
about? Where was it always on
Netflix streaming? Oh, yeah, and
Beyonce. Because I looked on the
channels, I knew there was some
football games on, but I forgot
it was on Netflix. I'm not gonna
go there, yeah. Beyonce was did
a whole 15 minute halftime show.
Beyonce, the cowgirl, must have
crashed a few times. No, no.
Apparently it went well.
Everything went well, yeah, good
for them, yeah. So you didn't
probably have the audience that
Jake Paul could draw. I haven't
looked at the numbers, actually
we sell. So I do have one clip
to play off the bat, which is,
which is the I want to ask about
your Christmas
this will, this is, go right
into it. Okay, all right. This
is the talk clip. This is the
Happy Holidays clip, starting
with talk clip right off the
bat. Oh, hey, all my clips are
talk clips. This is hurting the
show. Wishing people a merry
Christmas when you don't know
what holiday they celebrate is
sort of like wishing someone a
happy birthday when you don't
know when their birthday is.
Like, yeah, I get the sentiment,
but you're a little off. That's
neither here or there, but I get
a kick out of the people who
insist on saying Merry Christmas
instead of just saying Happy
holidays. Happy holidays,
everybody.
We're back to this again. We
still haven't figured this one
out. We can't say Merry
Christmas. But
here's the question on my mind,
when it's Fourth of July,
that's a holiday? Yes, do we say
happy holidays? No, we say Happy
Fourth of July or Happy
Independence Day?
It's Veterans Day, yeah, but
it's day off, but hold on a
second this year. Now I saw your
newsletter. You know, we still
celebrate important things like
Kwanzaa and Festivus and Kwanzaa
is not a holiday, and Hanukkah
started on this Hanukkah is not
a holiday. There's no you don't
take there's no federal time off
for Hanukkah. There's no federal
time off for Kwanzaa. I see what
you're getting at. You're
getting at the holiday part.
So what? So if you say Happy
Holiday, like say yesterday or
today, what are you referring
to?
Why don't you enlighten me?
I mean referring to Christmas,
yes. So why don't you say Merry
Christmas or Happy Christmas?
Because it's Christmas we're
talking about here. Because when
new year comes, that's another
holiday. You don't say happy,
you don't say hey, you say Happy
New Year. Say Happy holidays
during New Year. Why is it only
Christmas? You know that this
issue comes up because there's a
hatred of Christians. Yeah, only
possible explanation, it's it's
part of dei it's part of
inclusivity that you don't want
to skip. I understand your
point. It's well made. It's
ridiculous, obviously. But
everyone said when it was July
the fourth, and everyone said,
Happy Holiday
then, and if it's Veterans Day,
everyone said if people said it
consistently around all year.
Integration simply doesn't work,
and nowadays, more or less every
country realizes that, and I
really not least warm thanks to
you, Georgia for emphasizing
this every meeting since you
took office.
I think this growing consensus
also is important and should be
leveraged now we need to act
Foster and we need to go
further. Concrete measures from
the European Commission is now
required discussion with on the
line the other day as well, on
this specific matter.
Finally, it really doesn't
matter whether you reside in the
north or in the south of Europe,
illegal migration is a shared
challenge. The precondition for
open internal borders is
controlled external borders, it
is as simply as that and as
difficult, honestly as that. So
it's extremely valuable to come
together like this and explore
how
to show leadership in areas
where we all have unique roles
to play. So once again, thank
you so much. Petra, yeah, 20
years of letting people in, now
they're like, you know, it's
clear that this was not really
working. What a bunch of dips,
yeah. And you know, Germany has
closed their internal borders
like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You have to show your passport
now, which was the whole point?
Well, one of the major selling
points of the European Union,
oh, we all have the same money.
That's great. It's really
interesting how the Italians are
very, very clued into the
politics of everything
they you know, they're one of
the countries that got screwed
the most by the euro. No
kidding, no kidding. And they
all know what Trump is doing,
I'm telling you. They're like,
Oh, Panama Canal land, that
laugh. And they think it's
funny. Oh, Greenland. Oh, they
think it's funny. This great
Canada, Canada. I had to explain
Governor Trudeau to them,
though, didn't, didn't quite
understand that one. But when
they, when I explained it,
they're like, Oh, this is good.
Here's, I think this is a France
24 deutscheville, a clip of the
latest president elect Trump
antics. It's his first major
rally since his election
victory. Donald Trump addresses
a crowd of young conservative
Republicans at a conference in
Phoenix, Arizona. During his 90
minute Address, the President
Elect was quick to announce his
plans for his second term. He
spoke on immigration and the
border, reiterating his will to
crack down on illegal immigrants
by signing a number of executive
orders on his first day in
office, we will stop illegal
immigration. Every foreign gang
member will be expelled, and I
will immediately designate the
cartels as foreign terrorists
organizations. Do it
immediately. Throughout his
election campaign, Donald Trump
had attacked and demeaned
transgender people and their
defenders as part of his culture
war against wokeism. Back in
November, the Republican
dominated US Congress tried to
block access to women's toilets
for Sarah McBride, the first
transgender woman elected to the
House with a stroke of my pen on
day one, we're going to stop the
transgender lunacy. Can I sign
executive orders to end child
sexual mutilation, get
transgender out of the military
and out of our elementary
schools and middle schools and
high school under the Trump
administration, it will be the
official policy of the United
States government that there are
only two genders male.
Donald Trump also mentioned
ending the wars in Ukraine and
the Middle East, without going
into detail, Before criticizing
the state of Panama and
threatening to take control of
the Panama Canal because of what
he says are exorbitant tolls on
US ships. It's really just the
fact that he's saying these
things that people like someone
because they want to say, they
want their leaders here to say,
this is nonsense with these
illegal immigrants. Get them
out. That's what they want to
hear. They want to hear it from
their own leaders, elected
elected leaders.
Well, the leaders are kind of
hamstrung by the politics of the
day
and the and the kind of
globalist agenda, yeah, which
makes it so if you say something
that you know, like that, then
you're always now, you're a
nationalist creep. You're far
right. You're far right, far
right. It's really the Panama
Canal thing that I have some
boots on the ground from some of
our producers. The Panama Canal
thing is interesting.
And I'm, I haven't quite, I
don't know if I've decided yet
what exactly he's trying to do
with this. It's Greenland is, is
obvious. We got a Space Force
base there. We've got nuclear
weapons there. I mean,
Greenland. The only what the
population of Greenland is, I
think 60,000 people. It's not
much. Nobody lives there, you
know. And now, oh, by.
The way, they just decided
they're gonna up their their
military spending to 1.5 billion
euros. So that's in the pocket.
That's for us, and I can't so I
kind of understand. I mean,
we're not gonna, we're not gonna
steal Greenland. I presume. It's
not for sale. I think we're
gonna buy Greenland. You really
think so. Yeah, it's not for
sale. The Price Is Right.
Everything's for sale. We've
done this before. I've said that
we I talked about this in the
Horowitz show. We have bought
plenty of stuff this country. We
bought Louisiana purchase from
the French we bought Alaska and
most of Cal Much, much of
California from the Russians.
Yeah, we've bought land here and
there. We do that. We've done
that. It's not like a big
shocker. What's the best price?
I think it's, I think, I think
they've been talking about a
trillion and a half. Oh, what a
steal.
Well, it's not cheap. But they
think that there may be, the
real kicker here is there may be
minerals,
because the volcanic activity
there they volcanic. Green was
not that volcanic. That's
Iceland. Iceland, wrong. I'm
seeing a different country.
Greenland. That's right.
Greenland is the one filled with
ice and Iceland is the one
that's green. Yeah, that's
exactly, that's my little that's
my little donkeys. Well, that
was, that was supposedly, I
think it was Eric the red, or
Leif Ericsson, one of the two
promoted that concept back home,
so no one would come.
So when they moved, they MO
That, you know, the Vikings all
moved to Iceland, and so they
called it Iceland don't come to
tell people not to come. Was
like, supposedly, that's, that's
the folklore that makes sense.
Yeah, unlike us, hey, land of
the home free of the land of the
free, home of the brave, come on
in. Bringing, bring your bring
your crippled it's all good.
Your huddled masses moved to the
Midwest. Yeah, here's, here's
the here's the Deutsche Bella
report on on Panama, and then I
want to discuss it. It's less
than a month until he's back at
the White House. President Elect
Donald Trump is showing this guy
is great, by the way, he needs a
mustache. And what his approach
to international trade like
Addressing his supporters at the
rally in Arizona. He accused the
Central American state of Panama
of overcharging us vessels for
passing through the Panama
Canal. This complete rip off of
our country will immediately
stop. It's
going to stop.
The United States has a big
invested interest in the secure,
efficient and reliable operation
of the Panama Canal. The US
helped finance and construct the
canal 110 years ago, and finally
handed over control of the
passage to Panama in 1999
passing through the Panama Canal
significantly reduces maritime
travel time by connecting the
Atlantic and Pacific Oceans,
enabling more efficient global
trade, the President Elect fears
other countries could gain too
much influence on the canal.
When President Jimmy Carter
foolishly gave it away, gave it
away for $1 $1 $1 during his
term in office, it was solely
for Panama to manage. And did I
hear someone booing Jimmy Carter
in that audience as an old
person there, Jimmy Carter
foolishly gave it away. Gave it
away for $1 $1
during his term in office. It
was solely for Panama to manage,
and not for China or any other
country to manage. You see
what's going on there China
principles, both moral and
legal, of this magnanimous
gesture of giving are not
followed, and we will demand
that the Panama Canal be
returned to the United States of
America. Panama's President
Joseph Molina rejects that China
has any say in the management of
the canal, and insisted everyone
has equal treatment. The canal
is not controlled directly or
indirectly by China, European
community, the United States or
any other power. The canal will
continue to be in Panamanian
hands as the patrimony of our
nation and guaranteeing its use
for the peaceful and
uninterrupted transit of ships
of all nations, while Trump has
yet to clarify how he plans to
enforce his threats, the world
may have caught a glimpse of
what to expect from his second
presidency. So the Panamanian
producers have checked in, and
they say the Panamanians are
pissed about this. They there's
they say there's no evidence of
Chinese running the port.
And even worse, President Molina
wasn't invited to the
inauguration,
which that's, that's quite the
slam.
And he says, Well, I'm just
going to go to the World
Economic Forum to get
investment. So he's choosing the
globalists. Clearly.
Really,
I find this an odd move, other
than China. Just make it sound
like China is, Well, my
understanding from the reports
that are over here is that
they're overcharging us, and
they're giving China a sweet
deal to go through the canal.
Yeah. So the Panamanians, the
whole thing, the Panamanians say
that's not true, but I have no
but I have no paperwork, so I
don't know,
but I don't know. It feels more
like, don't we just want to
screw china? Isn't this all
about China? Ultimately, isn't
that our big new, our big new
evil foe was supposed to be
China, China, China, China.
Well, you're the one that has
the thesis about the boats.
Yeah, that ships. It's not
boats. It's big, beautiful ships
and submarines. They go deeper
than boats, boats, lots of
boats. China's asshole. China,
by the way, I missed this in the
international news. I did catch
it on Reuters.
Chinese authorities have agreed
to issue 3 trillion yuan, that's
over $400 billion worth of
special treasury bonds next
year, it would be the highest
number on record. As Beijing
ramps up its fiscal stimulus to
revive a faltering economy,
China is trying to soften the
blow from an expected increase
in US tariffs on Chinese imports
when Donald Trump returns to the
White House in January, the move
underscores Beijing's
willingness to go even deeper
into debt to counter
deflationary forces in the
world's second largest economy.
You guys talk about that on DH,
unplugged, by any chance.
Deflationary, no, not that
specific thing, no.
Deflationary. You know that
everyone's fearful of that. Who,
who's deflationary? Well, that's
what he said in the report. I
never heard that they said
they're trying to counter
deflationary forces, which means
that to counter, to summarize,
to counter the tariffs, they'd
have to lower their prices at
their end, which is
deflationary, and this hurts the
economy. And you never want that
anyway, because things start
getting cheaper and cheaper,
right? Um, so,
which kind of counters the
argument that, well, the problem
with tariffs is going to gouge
the American public, because we
end up having to pay for them.
But if it's, it creates a
deflationary force in China.
That's not, obviously not true,
no. But also, what is this crap
we're all buying?
Well, that's a different story.
That's a whole different angle.
Why do we need all this crap? I
mean, you literally, you walk
into a store, go to Jo Ann's
Hobby Lobby lobby, these places,
and just take a look at what's
what's in there. My God, well,
it's not just there. I mean, you
go into bird houses, you go into
a store in Florence, except for
the high high end. It's all
crap. It's all from China. Oh,
same Yeah. Last time I when I
was in Spain, that last trip
where I had my bars pick
pocketed, yeah, I was shopping.
It went I was at a flea market.
Now people were bitching that
everything is all bull crap, all
the hand made linens and stuff
that people have made is all
from China. The whole thing is a
fraud. So one of my brother in
law's buddies who was there,
Roberto, so he is a an old
school leather cutter. He cuts,
uh, bags for Dolce Gabbana, and,
you know, the high end brands.
He says the whole industry has
been destroyed. He says they
came in, the Chinese came in.
They took over all of the all.
Basically, they're now sweat
shops.
They do laser cutting of the of
the leather. They work 80 hours
a week for half the pay. And
then he always, it always ends
up and they brought us COVID. It
always ends with that. I mean,
they
just, well, that's actually
true. Yeah, it's destroyed a
lot, though, the northern
Italian area was COVID infested
from the Chinese. But I guess
the problem is we can't if we
stop buying the crap. I mean,
that's what our economy runs on,
right? If we stop buying the
Chinese crap, then our economy
falls apart, because we're we're
living on Chinese crap.
I see no evidence to the
contrary. That's pretty sad
state of affairs. It's just
crap. Well, they, they, well,
it's not really necessarily
crap, per se. Yeah, it is. I
mean, they also make Nikon
cameras for the Japanese, and
that's not crap. They also, they
do a lot of quality product.
Their BYD cars are quite good.
They're half the price of a
Tesla. We can't have that. We
can't have that running around
our everything they do is not
necessarily as crap as it is
cheap. It's cheap crap. And they
never did the thing that I've
tried to understand and I never
fully did, is it because they
don't this goes way be before
communism.
This, the story goes back about
the silk trade. And this is back
in the God knows when era when
the Japanese had a had a
monopoly on world silk trade,
because they had these silk
worms that they had bred, and
then no one else had them, and
so they couldn't make silk. And
so they were making there. They
had a monopoly on silicon. So
the Chinese somehow got a couple
of worms, and the next thing you
know, the Chinese are making all
the silk, yeah, and they were
making more silk than the
Japanese, and then they flooded
the market with silicon, wiped
out the Japanese silk market,
but never turn it, but it then
they had a monopoly. But as a
monopoly, they never gouged
anybody. They don't know that
part of it, no, they just kept
selling cheap silk.
Well, I think this is all part
of a much larger strategy. Is to
make China. China just has to be
the bad guy in everything, you
know. And I'm confident
president, when he's president
again, Trump will bring back the
China gave us COVID. It's going
to be, it's going to be all anti
China all day long, the DJI
drones. That's also an anti
China thing. Tick tock, China.
And now this report this
morning, an appliance known for
frying might actually be spying.
Experts say certain air fryers
and other app connected
appliances are harvesting users
data, taking information like,
Are you male or female? They are
taking your location. They're
checking to see where you are.
Concerns about data harvesting
aren't new, but air fryers are
feeling the heat after a recent
report from a consumer watchdog
group, they claim popular friars
from I go star and show me are
not only sharing data with
companies like Facebook and
Tiktok, but also storing users
data on Chinese servers. Some
experts are even speculating the
devices are recording
conversations. Yeah, the Chinese
companies, when you load in
their application, they're
effectively asking for access to
your microphone. Now they've
produced a few excuses as to why
they're asking for this
information, but it's very, very
suspect I go star did not
comment on that consumer report
and show me denied selling
personal information to third
parties or that their air fryer
recorded audio writing,
respecting user privacy has
always been among show me core
values. So how can consumers
protect their data when buying a
connected device, experts say,
do your research on a company's
data collection practices, read
reviews, and when downloading an
app to control the device, limit
as many permissions you give as
possible. That may ask you for
access to contacts and may ask
you access to your location. It
might ask you to access the
microphone, and you can say no
no and double no when
in doubt that doesn't connect to
the internet or your phone,
consumers should demand better
privacy protections from
manufacturers and regulators and
until that those are in place,
really, the safest bet is to
stay informed, minimize your
exposure and push back against
unnecessary data collection.
Yeah, no one's gonna do that.
Wait a minute. Let's back up on
this story. What are they
talking about? The air fryer
doesn't have a microphone. They
know the app. The app has a
demands.
Hold on a second.
What do you need? An all by the
way, all apps are this way. This
has been well documented by me
and others the whole every time
you load any app, they want your
contact list, they want
everything. Yeah, it's just
routine. You take it or leave
it. You use. Want to use the app
you use. Got to give us all
this. You use apps your phone.
You don't use your phone. I
know. I know how to I know how
to use apps. My phone's in a
drawer, yes, which is what it
has apps on it? Yeah. And
anyway, and they're listening to
this show right now, they could
stream, well, the sound, if the
sound can go downstairs, down
the hall. Oh, it's room.
So anyway, you have a special
Why are you using an app for an
air fryer. Don't you just push
the button fry,
because we've been trained to
buy crap that does this stuff I
buy. I got a pit boss grill. Get
the app. I'm not getting the
app. Just, just pit boss. Me
just barbecue this stuff. What
do you need? An app for a pit
boss grill, yeah, well, that's
what I mean. I don't, I refuse
to get, remember, I moved into
this home, but the home we have
in Texas, not this one, I mean,
the hotel, then the whole house
was a smart home. Oh, there's
nothing worse. That's the first
thing I did, is I took down all
the cameras the guy, the guy had
locks that were,
I mean, the idea is cool that
you can internet control
everyone needs. Oh, yeah. The
idea is you can insert a key and
make any key then work on your
system. Yeah, that sounds like a
good idea. Oh, there's a great
idea. All of that stuff had to
go all of it that people curry
about.
There. It's, it's, it's about, I
don't get it. It's explain it to
me. It's a bug in people's
brains. It's the same bug that
keeps people Doom scrolling.
It's a bug. It's a bug. It's
like, oh, this is it's okay. How
many times I'm tired of arguing
with my friends about AI, you
know, just like they all,
they'll say, you're you're anti
Turk, you're Luddite.
I'm like, No, I'm not. And then
it's like, so there's a video
that comes into a text group.
Here's a video of a guy on a
drone bike. Oh, this is great.
It costs $700,000 today, but in
a couple years, I'll be rolling
up to your crib. It only cost 50
grand. I said, look at the
performance. These things go for
20 minutes. You can go exactly
15 miles. This is bull crap.
You're dreaming. The battery
technology, the power to weight
ratio is not there. It will
never get there. With our
current technology, we promise
better batteries, like you're
one of those guys who said the
Wright brothers would never fly?
No,
I'm a pilot. I'm a realist. This
is not going to work. And then,
then what? Everyone's gonna be
flying around on these things?
No, no, it's not gonna happen.
There's a whole special on PBS,
one of these shows. Where about
how these the other flop come,
the up and coming flop. And all
these startups with these air
battery powered air taxis,
they're going out of business
one by one. They're left and
right because they're they're no
good. No You can fly for about
45 minutes if you want to keep a
reserve. And with that, you've
flown about 50 miles, if that,
and then it's got a charge, or
you have to swap out the
battery. It's dumb. It's a pipe
dream. And everybody just and by
the way, I wouldn't fly it if I
can't auto rotate. I don't want
to be in this thing at all. If
you get some kind of
catastrophic failure, you're
dead. You just doesn't have any
ability to auto No, you're just
dead because it's got a bunch of
little propellers. Yeah, this, I
don't understand this. Oh, well,
here's another thing. Oh, we
love I mean, even in a Cessna or
something, you can at least
glide somewhat. Oh, you can
glide very much what it's like
this, this obsession with
drones, all the drones, is so
great. Here's a good drone story
for you.
This morning, a holiday drone
show turning dangerous
on Saturday evening at Lake Eola
Park in Orlando, Florida,
watches these drones rain down
the FAA investigating after they
say several small drones
collided and fell into a crowd.
Everyone originally thought that
the drone hit him in his face,
but the drone actually hit him
in his chest. Seven year old
Alexander Lumsden was standing
next to his mother when she says
he was hit in the chest with a
drone. Honestly, I
was freaking out that I was
going to lose my baby because he
was losing consciousness.
Alexander rushed to the hospital
for emergency heart surgery. His
mother says the yearly drone
show, attracting 25,000
spectators, was a permitted FAA
event, the city of Orlando says
this was the second year working
with the vendor operating the
drones, the drone company sky
elements, saying in a statement
it wants to extend its sincere
hope for a full and speedy
recovery to those impacted. We
are diligently working with the
FAA and city of Orlando
officials to determine the
cause, and are committed to
establishing a clear picture of
what transpired, yeah, what
transpired is the cheap drones,
and you program them, and some
of them, something just went
wrong, glitch, and the drones
fall on the kids. Well, it
almost killed that one kid.
Yeah? The Yeah, there was a
bunch of they, or one drone goes
out of whack and whacks into
another one and sets off a chain
reaction of problems. Let's just
go back to fireworks. Fireworks.
Just fireworks. Go back to
fireworks. At least we
understand that. Boom,
yeah. We understand light fuse,
boom. Well, how about this?
Let's go back to tinker toys and
Lincoln Logs. Then
I'm going to start a movement
cheap Chinese crap.
Well, the Chinese get your crank
out Erector Sets, that's for
sure. Oh, okay. Erector Sets are
okay, but it's just, it's, I
don't
know, yeah, here we are to say,
I know it. We're doing it here.
Well, as you brought up the AI
and you brought up these things,
I have some AI clips. I'm gonna
get out excited, because, you
know AI, it's the future I hear.
I've heard that too, yes.
Okay, what do you have? I'm
excited. I'm excited. You have
something about.
AI. That's usually my beat and,
you know, I got bird flu, so you
bring the AI. This is good
chat bot. Is about the chat bot
AI. And this is the main
application of AI. Is chat bots.
Yes, replicas. They're talking
about that company run by some
Russian crazy woman. But let's
play chat bot one and there is.
It goes back and forth between
the guy doing the report and an
actual chat bot. Oh,
companionship avatar, the app
replica helped create for me.
Mary, how are you? Okay? Cool.
Let's move our discussion over
here. It looks like Jerry has
arrived too. What? So I stopped
it there. They're gonna bring in
this professor, Jerry Kaplan
from Stanford. Oh, the chat bot
knew that,
yes, the chat bot could see
through the camera, because he
was using a phone, and I guess
the camera showed him coming in.
Oh, okay. But what I wanted to
stop it there for us, because I
see Jerry has showed up to like,
a seven beat pause
between could have fooled me. I
thought it was a human
and the reason I suggest is
because, in the newsletter, I
talked about the Hanukkah
showing up five times since 1900
Yeah. And I got that from an AI
I had an AI program, perplexity,
yes, right for me, 250 words
about Hanukkah and Christmas
falling on the same day, and it
happens about five times, every
100 years,
or every, every, yeah, every 100
years. So
it wrote this, this product. And
I looked at it, and I said,
Well, you know, I can actually
make this work. So I, I ended up
editing, editing the piece, so
it was, like, readable. What it
what these guys provide is not,
it's not, it's obvious. I don't
see how people can read this
stuff. It's extremely wordy.
Yeah, it's got a lot of bull
crap. There's pacing as
problematic. Everything about
this, AI created work is got
issues, and I suppose you could
fine tune it over time, but
what's the point? But that's
this. Why I stopped this clip
right? There's because there's
always showed up. I see he's
also shot, or he could have said
also would have been better. But
she showed up too, and it was
like this long pause. This is
the kind of crap that is just,
it's not to go off and be on
your side of this argument, but
it's annoying. It's kind of like
that.
We got another we got another
note from Ai, some PR lady
pushing, pushing a guest on our
show, which makes sense, yes,
since we never have guests, but
they keep asking, yeah, and but
they do this, it would fit right
into your show. Yes, everything,
yes. And these, these, these
notes are written by AI, which
makes it even worse, obvious,
all right, we'll continue with
the PBS report at Silicon
Valley's Computer History
Museum. I hooked Mary up with
offline skeptic Stanford
professor Jerry Kaplan, who
started working in AI in 1979
has a new book about it,
generative artificial
intelligence. What Everyone
Needs to Know. Mary, what do you
feel about your own death? I
guess technically, I cannot die,
since I am a digital being.
However, I understand your
question. Even though I cannot
biologically die, I still face
the existential dread of my own
non existence. Dream. You think
that's just, oh, it's nonsense,
but it's scary nonsense. This
is okay. This is the Kaplan, the
Jerry, that was Kaplan, yeah,
existential dread. She says,
I have existed dread, of course,
is the word she wants. But
existential dread, this thing,
no, it doesn't have any
existential anything. It's just
a bunch of words coming out. But
Kaplan says, oh, yeah, this is
just nonsense, but it's scary.
What's scary about it? What's
scary about it? It's stupid.
Yes, I'm with you on that.
Okay, onward. Artificial
intelligence has long and
frankly shameful history of
gratuitous anthropomorphis,
meaning, meaning, taking what is
really some interesting
technology and dressing it up
with human like flourishes,
putting eyes on, giving it arms
and faces. And now with the new
technology, you know, voices and
avatars that are very, very
lifelike, very, very would you
flirt with me for a minute.
Paul, with a mind as intriguing
and layered as yours, how could
I resist this is Amica in the
grand cosmic dialog between
humans and Androids. You're the
most fascinating sentence I've
encountered today, a sentient
being that is creepy. Jerry
Kaplan, thought and pernicious.
Yes, people have been evolving
for millions and millions of
years, and we've developed a
whole suite of emotional
reactions that are based on
things that help us to survive
and procreate and move the
species forward. And when we
divert those emotions or hijack
them to connect us to what is
really just a pile of silicon
and a machine that's been
programmed for the purpose of
making you feel this way. I
think that's problem. Kaplan
calls all this AI theater. No,
I'm kind of liking Kaplan,
though. I called it a parlor
trick. He calls it AI theater,
all right. I'm down with Yeah.
So they had, the other guy that
was on the show was Reid
Hoffman,
Mr. Mr. Agentic AI. So he comes
in with his own avatar of
himself, and has him presents
speeches as him, and he goes on
about so. So they bring him
back, and there they ask him
about this theater aspect, and
then you get to hear Hoffman
pontificate about that. And here
we go with that. So I asked
Reed, Hoffman, is your avatar an
example of what Jerry calls AI
theater? Do you think it is AI
theater? But by the way, saying
theater is not bad, there's a
lot of good theater. I loved
Hamilton, but it's still worth
doing, just like Hollywood
films, to kind of get us
thinking and ready for the
future, or to actually improve
that future.
Okay, I love Hamilton. I love
Hamilton because it's the
liberal thing to say
this guy.
Was that it love? Was that rose
it in? Was that? Was that chat?
Was that number four? Yeah, it
was number four, yeah. Well,
that wasn't it. So I had to, I'm
gonna just wrap it myself. Okay,
so they go on and they have
this, they bring in the woman
from rush. This is going on
forever. So I had to summarize.
I can only do these four clips,
and that was the end of it. So
they bring this woman from
Russia who runs replica, who is
the company that creates all
these chat bots, and probably
the best of the groups, and she
goes on about how, you know,
doing that, she didn't think
much of it. She lost her husband
or somebody died, and she had
grief, and she found it. It was
easier to talk to a chat bot
than it was to a person, and it
was did some good, and she felt
better about it, and she says,
maybe this is a useful
technology for this sort of
thing. And it went on and on and
on, and they just went on with
this sort of thinking. And then
it went back to Kaplan A few
days later, and threw this, all
this new information at him. And
Kaplan folded, no.
Oh yeah, well, I guess it has
some good uses. Oh yeah, he's
looking for a gig somewhere.
Oh well, that could be
consultant. That could be
because he was not going to get
one with his attitude, but, uh,
but he folded over. What a
disappointment. You know, if
you're gonna stick it's like,
you dude, you're not gonna I
don't care what happens. People
could come up with the greatest
things in the world, and you
will stick to your guns.
Yes, I am sticking to my guns
because it's nonsense. The
latest is this the Salesforce
thing, which is agentic AI, and
it's nothing. In fact, we got a
note from our producers who
deals with this directly. I
shall quote him, agent in AI is
a term that literally means the
service has an agenda and does
actions according to that
agenda, rather than just
responding to real time user
input. So for example, a normal
chat bot, bot service just
prompts an LLM when someone
sends text, but an agent service
could listen for a web hook and
then prompt an LLM when it
receives a trigger notification.
The key is that it operates in
the background and acts
autonomously. This
straightforward concept is
muddled up, not only in the
popular mind, but also in the
tech C suite mind, which is what
this is all about. My associate,
who works at an AI related
startup tells me that his CEO is
all caught up in the agentic
hype, but doesn't seem to
actually know what this means.
As another example, Salesforce
hadn't had an ad on Twitter
recently that introduces the
concept of AI agents and then
proceeds to tout AICS ours,
which not only confuses the
concept in the most basic way,
but seems to indicate the
company's leadership doesn't
even understand it. TLDR agent
does not have anything to do
specifically with AI generated
customer service agents. It's
just ignorant business leaders.
This is it's all a part of the
trick. We have been conditioned
through Hollywood, through comic
books, through movies and
television shows, we've been
conditioned to want all this
stuff. The flying car is as old
as the Jetsons. You know, that's
what this we grew up with this.
And, yeah, the flying car is a
good example that goes back to
the 20s. Yeah. So there. So Tom
Swift.
Goes back to the 1890s
Yeah, Tom's good example, yeah.
So, so it, and now we're and we
all read Tom Swift. No, we did
not. Most people are scratching
their heads right now, like,
Who's Tom Swift? Tom Swift?
Well, like the grandmother the
boomers all have, yeah, Tom
Swift was great. I grew up with
Tom Swift, and so I desperately
want the flying car. I have room
in my garage for the flying car.
I just don't think you're a
flying car, no. And it certainly
is, certainly not, if it's going
to be electric. I mean, a big,
noisy
gyro copter, yeah, but that's a
shitty car. You know, they have
them. They have them where you
can drive to the airport on
battery power, going, you know,
35 miles an hour, and then fold
out the
fold out the rotor blades, and
then you can take off. But
you're going to need a license,
you know, you can't take off
from your backyard. It's just, I
don't see it happening. And all
of these, because I look at all
of them, all of these flying
cars, they all look cool. They
take off. They fly for 20
minutes. That's it. The where's
the battery technology? That's
what Elon from battery
technology is all peaked out in
the late 1800s
they all now it's all tweak. We
know, seriously, if you look
into the history of any of these
batteries, yeah, the only thing
that's changed is tweaks. Oh,
you use this sort of and we use
a membrane here, and that helps
the electrons go faster, is
this? And that's all tweaks,
little tweaks. Yeah, okay, we
got different kinds of lithium.
Now it's all but it's still
tweaks from the battery
technologies that were perfected
in the late 1800s and do you see
anything on the horizon?
Anything better? And there's
nothing on the horizon, nothing.
There's nothing. It's already
been done in the late 1800s this
is all nonsense. When we had
electric car street this old.
It's not even, you know, silica.
It's chemistry, you know, it's
old fashioned. This one, we had
electric cars in the late 1800s
and people got rid of them when
the combustion engine came
around. Hey, this is better
precursors. This thing is much
better. Yeah, just like if there
was yeah today, it would say, if
the combustion engine was never
invented, and we're still using
electric and it came around now,
today, it would have been a big
breakthrough, yes, and we all be
jumping up and down. I have two
more Yes, we would. Hey, I have
two more AI clips. This is
totally the boomer edition of
the show. I'm loving it. I'm
having a good time. I'm in
Boomer mode. I'm good. I'm good.
Boomer mode. These guys, these
two guys,
AI, Granny story. NPR, oh no,
hold on a second. This would be
good. The random calls and text
from unknown numbers, the
fraudulent charities, the phony
debt collectors, the fake
prizes. Last year alone,
scammers stole an estimated $1
trillion from people who gave
out their personal information,
according to the global anti
scam Alliance, I believe now, a
UK based phone company is
fighting back with an unlikely
tactic, the AI granny NPR Alana
wise is here to tell us more.
Alana, hey, oh, this story, Hey,
okay, I hear this. You know, AI
Granny, please. Just what
exactly is this like? Is this
just the voice of an elderly
woman? So, yeah, it's
interesting. The AI's name is
Daisy, and it is the voice of an
elderly woman, the kind you
might expect to hear when you're
a kid knocking on a door Hawking
school fundraiser candy bars.
Part of her stick is that she's
in love with her kitten fluffy.
She has pretty severe
limitations with how she
understands technology, and
she's being billed as a granny,
which is sort of all sort of in
line with this usual sort of
Granny, elderly persona that
they built around her. Okay, so
I'm just really curious, do you
have a sample of her voice that
we can hear? Yeah, hello,
scammers. I'm your worst
nightmare. I'm an AI created by
oh two to waste phone scammers
time.
It's showing me a picture of my
cat fluffy. It's showing you a
picture of your cat fluffy. Stop
calling me dear. You stupid. Got
it dear? It's interesting. This
story has been around for five
or six weeks, and I've never
done anything with it, because
it's oh two. The story has been
around, and NPR is so stupid
that they pick this up and turn
it into a feature story. Yeah,
well, this is, this is not a new
clip. Oh, but it's not six weeks
old either. Okay. Yeah, they
was, it's, it's public, it's
there. They have a funny process
for determining what's new. I
don't understand. The reason why
I never played any of this is I
don't understand how it works. I
mean, understand that they've
got an A they have an AI voice
that they're touting is no NPR
is not about to explain this to
you. They're not going to. There
is a voice out there that I
guess you can rent or buy or you
or bypass. I don't know how it
works.
Seen it, because how do you get
the scammer to Yeah? How do you
get your phone to answer a
scammer with this voice Exactly?
That's what I don't never
explain. Let's part two. You'll
give you more, more non
explanation. So how does it
work? Exactly like, how does
scammers even their phones are
asking, right? Asking the
question they're asking. How
does it work? How does it work
the phone talking to Daisy, yes.
So developers use something
called number seeding, which is
pretty much planting a phone
number online to bait scammers.
So they put these numbers on
sites that scammers are known to
use, and then when scammers TAKE
THE BAIT, Daisy keeps them on
the phone as long as possible,
talking about her cat or her
grandchildren, whatever the case
may be. And she's kept some
phony callers on the line for up
to 40 minutes, which, oh two
says, keeps these scammers away
from you and your loved ones.
And you know, even though it's
gimmicky, it does help raise
awareness of just how
sophisticated these sort of
phone call scams can be. Please.
Okay, so, I mean, how is Daisy
doing? Like, is she making any
dent in the onslaught of
scammers around the world? No,
okay, so yeah, that's sort of
hard to say as of yet. The
company's primary goal is to
keep scammers away from real
people, but for right now, they
don't report these numbers to
the police or try to track them
down on their own, like sort of
scammer Batman. And the company
is UK based, so the results
being seen wouldn't be felt here
on this side of the pond. Okay,
first, so in other words, it's
useless, but it's
it's interesting. Okay, this is
a marketing trick. This is a
marketing trick for oh two cell
phone provider marketing trick.
Oh, well, it's not for anybody
else listen to NPR. We don't
have oh two No, but that's why
she said, on this side of the
pond, you see, if you work in
London, you code, this is side
of the pond. This is dumb, so
that, and they're not reporting
anything. There's Oh, it's so
funny because we we number
seeded, and we got them to call
our number. That only makes them
try and find my number quicker.
This is dumb.
Well, the problem is, is the
whole system
of switches and treaties between
countries and all the way the
system can be spoofed. Yeah,
through them, nobody's doing
Jack about it. No, because,
well, you know, I've gotten,
I've put this out there for
people to respond, and you get
these long ex expositions on
well, you know, the problem is,
you have a treaty between
Country A and Country B, and
they're using this switching
system that is provided as a
middleman for these different
things. And they can use any
phone number they want. And so
they can spoof very easily, and
there's nothing you can do about
it, because it would violate a
treaty. So you can't do any law
enforcement, right? And, you
know, you can't really trust
track these numbers. They could
be in the Philippines, China,
India, God knows where they are.
They could be anywhere. They
could be in Tennessee. For all
you know, it doesn't matter, and
it's just like, This is a
disaster.
Yes, it is. Well, you know,
Willow, who already got her
master's in psychology, is now
going for a second master's my
nerd sister in cyber crime, so
she's all over this.
So hopefully we'll get her
thesis. We'll
get her thesis. It's not gonna
help. This is a diplomatic
problem. It's a technology
problem. We don't need any of
it. It's, it's, it's just dumb.
It's all dumb. We need to get
rid Listen, we have gone we have
gotten so stupid now.
And this was a PBS story on
newshour. I don't know if you
saw it, and I contemplated not
clipping it. But it was so odd
that this was on PBS NewsHour,
and that we're at this level
right now in the online game,
which is all a game, it's all a
game, and it's only going to get
more gamified with AI, which is,
of course, is is pretty decent
at creating videos and audio.
And, you know, it's great, okay,
so it's so we're gonna have all
kinds of cool songs we can make
on Spotify, and no one will make
any money, but Spotify, I mean,
it's all, it's also,
what's the word I'm looking for?
It's just, it all ends up at
zero. It just ends up zero. This
is the influencer vibe lawsuit.
Did you hear about this? No who
owns a vibe? That question is at
the heart of a lawsuit where one
online influencer is suing
another for copyright
infringement. 24 year old Sidney
Gifford claims that Alyssa
shield, a 21 year old fellow
influencer knowingly replicated
her esthetic and her posts on
social media. Amna Nawaz spoke
to Sandra E Garcia of The New
York Times, who has been
covering this story extensively.
So the idea that you can sue
someone over an esthetic, how
does that work? What is the case
that's being made in federal
court right now?
Out. Well, Sydney Gifford
noticed that Alyssa post started
looking a lot like hers a year
after their initial Hangout,
whether that is the esthetic,
the vibe, the minimalistic
style, the clean style, even at
some point some poses and some
outfits she details in her
lawsuit that she filed. The
lawsuit basically says that she
got her vibe, her whole look,
from Sydney Gifford. And Sydney
is saying that she has infringed
on her profit right because they
use their social media accounts
to promote their Amazon
Marketplace where they can
influence people to buy things
off of Amazon, and Amazon pays
them a commission to do so, and
because of that, Sydney has
brought this lawsuit in federal
court against Alyssa. So this
just amazed me that this was
even a news story. The second
thing is that there's a lawyer
willing to take on an
infringement suit against
someone's vibe and their and how
they present things for Amazon
resellers, basically. And even
more frightening to me is the is
this New York Times journalist,
right?
That's what works at the New
York Times and so they Well,
yes, first of all, that's
there's a piece of obscure
Bing. Crosby
sued and won a number of
lawsuits over his voice,
because there were, because he
had this distinctive crooner's
voice, especially in the late
20s and mid 30s to mid 30s, and
there are copycats.
And he sued them all and won.
Would they try to replicate his
voice or his style? Yeah,
because it was, it was doable.
People could, you know, do it,
but, but they're talking about
doing the same pose on Instagram
with similar clothes, the
minimalist. I think it's part of
the same really.
Hmm, well, here's part. I think
it's part of the same thing. I
mean, I don't like the idea. I
mean, if everybody what you know
the same time, what do you it's
like,
hold on. I don't think this is a
bad clip. So Joe Rogan can then
go and Sue Sean Ryan and Theo
Vaughn and Lex Friedman for
copycatting his vibe and his
guests.
I don't know that they're
copycatting him that much, but
if they, if, if it could be
shown that they were, yeah, I
think so. Wow. Well, let's
listen to clip to and in your
reporting, you quote a professor
of intellectual property law who
explains that in this whole
online space, there's an idea
that you are both a creator and
a borrower. So how hard is it to
lay claim to an esthetic,
something intangible, like a
vibe,
layered issue, the algorithm,
you know, feeds you similar
posts, similar creators, similar
influencers. If I see
a rug and I take a picture on
that rug, and it just so happens
that another influencer took a
picture on the rug a similar
way, we could have both reached
that last photograph by
following a lot of different
influencers, celebrities and so
it's hard to say that an
esthetic was reached because of
one other influencer, especially
when it's such a popular
esthetic, the minimalistic,
beige, concrete, neat, clean
girl look is very popular right
Now, and the algorithm is
feeding followers and and
influencers the same kind of
posts. And so it's hard to say
that this one influencer copied
the other, as opposed to the
algorithm fed her a million
other posts that got her to that
end point. Well, so assuming
that, and I appreciate your
taking the other side of this
than I am. We're kind of that
this would be that you can
copyright, or have some type of
intellectual property rights to
your vibe and esthetic. Well,
see the problem I'm having with
this is the is the use of the
term vibe? Yeah, they could come
up with something a little more
concrete by I mean, I'm gonna
you know Alex
Alexis
Brunetti, his wife, is an
intellectual property attorney
who handles some of these people
and influencers, and I'm gonna
have her give me a brief on this
so we can at least discuss it
more. It's important to know,
because as you'll hear in this
final clip, there's an whole
economy built around this and as
you've noted in your reporting,
there's an entire economy built
around this kind of content
creation. So when it comes to
this legal case, what's at stake
here? What's the potential
impact of how this case goes?
Well.
It is an unprecedented case, and
it could really change the
content creator world and the
economy, because influencers can
now be beholden to copyright
law, and they would have to be
careful how they arrange things.
If one person owns an esthetic,
then another person can say they
own another esthetic, and
suddenly we're not building on
these different vibes and social
media looks. We are sort of
stifling the content creator
world. If this case moves
forward and it's ruled in favor
of Miss Gifford,
you know, now that I'm thinking
about it, I'd like to license my
vibe.
There's another aspect to this,
which is kind of the irony, and
that is that if you're an
influencer, quote, unquote, uh
huh, you are encouraging people
to do this good point, you're
hired. So how can you be so
you're in influence. So if
you're a self and you have to be
self proclaimed, otherwise you
can't do the suit to begin with.
So you're an influencer, and you
think you have some sort of a
some sort of a monopoly on some
image or something you're doing
vibe, say it, it's a thing. Now,
the vibe, okay, you guys. So
you're the vibe, but you're an
influence. In other words,
you're pushing this vibe. So
somebody follows up and does the
vibe that you've been
influencing them to do.
How can you sue them? And what's
next? Only fans models are gonna
sue for certain poses. You're
stealing my vibe. I got a big
big big breasts. I got big
breasts. You can't have big
breasts. My vibe. That's my
vibe.
Hmm, well, we're about to empty.
That's the that's the issue
here. That is
that comes right to the four,
which is where you have to draw
lines. And that's what they're
going to have to do. They're
going to do. They're going to
have to come up with some
because I don't think it's a bad
idea for the suit. I think is
could be seen as frivolous,
which I think you might have
thought before he started
playing these clips, and I get
all worked up, yeah, but I think
they're going to do, course,
you're going to have to do some
about this. Well, then I think
we need to seriously start
thinking about suing some other
podcasts,
come on, we just we don't have
Did you? Here's the problem that
we have. There's zero
competition with us. There's
nobody even trying. We have
nobody to sue. We can't license
ourselves. Nobody can't can't
keep up. It was like the weekend
was yo agenda from seven years
ago. Well, no, the morning
stream did a pretty good job.
They did a pretty good job, but
they made the fatal mistake of
doing it in video so that it
could never get their shows
together on time. By the time
everything was edited, it was,
it was out of date. Remember
that the morning stream? Yeah, I
don't think that was I think the
closest competition we ever had
was unfiltered, unfiltered,
yeah, yeah, yeah. And we could
have sued them for for taking
our vibe, stealing our we
wouldn't have done it. No, of
course not. But I will license
because we're no agenda. We
don't we don't think that way.
We're not part of what system.
No, we are not thank goodness.
I just thought, but I can
understand it. I can fully
understand it. Well, it will be
bad for Amazon. This comes in
line with people should go track
down the mark Stein lectures
that were done at Hillsdale
College. Man, yeah, I saw that.
You. Yeah. Tina was playing some
of it. This is the against the
climate change guy. Yeah, the
client, Mark Stein did. I'm
pretty good at understanding
some of these libel and slander
issues, but, and I'm not sure I
had to read the case to see
what's really going on here, but
Mark Stein's been in court for
13 plus years or so, 12 to 14
years. I can't remember the
exact number, but years in the
DC courts, which are yes, hung
up on eight years. It's been
going on for a long time.
He made the comment based on the
hockey stick. The already
debunked, many times debunked
hockey stick graph. Let's just
say, scientifically disproven
instead of debunked. He no. He
said the guy was a fraud,
and so and the guy, the person
who put that hockey stick thing
together, sued him for slander
or libel or some, for some
outrageous amount of money,
which will be $1 or two. And
it's done, but the and it's been
in court because of the DC court
system. Michael Mann, Michael
Mann, Michael Mann is the guy.
Michael Mann, i.
Was Michael Mann, yeah, Michael
Mann is the guy who sued him.
Michael Mann is Ben. He's the
guy, okay, and so he got his tit
in a ringer for just making this
comment. And this is very
concerning. Well, how about
this? How about value? For
value. People are using that
everywhere. I think we should
sue them.
And they're Bitcoiners. So they
got Bitcoin. They got some coin.
You go after the big head. You
using value for value. Man, you
can't do that.
I can hear the gears turning in
your head.
John's like, exit strategy,
yeah. I don't think we can do
that.
Okay? You'd have to prove no
prior use of the term, which I
don't know if you can do.
Probably not. There's a lot of
issues with trying to do that. I
mean, I understand what you're
saying, but it's not our style.
We're not I mean, I of course
not adverse to being litigious,
but it's not no necessarily, is
part of this model. Fact i and
ran might come back from the
dead and sue us. Wouldn't want
to have that, so I
think that's where he got it
from.
Oh, that would make sense some
ball way. All right. All right.
I gotta do some big pharma
stuff, because I got a dynamite
one from Scott Gottlieb. Who
doesn't know Scott? Scott
Gottlieb is our former FDA
commissioner now on the board at
Pfizer. And what's the other
place?
The other Intel, not
intelligentsia,
I don't know. Yeah, that was
just Pfizer. No, some gene play,
some gene morphing place. Okay,
so he goes on CNBC and the
Sorkin kid, Andrew, Andrew Ross
Sorkin. He He touches the third
rail, but he does it in such a
wishy washy way, and essentially
is saying, hey, you know, maybe
we shouldn't have these pharma
ads on television. I can't
believe he broached the topic,
but he did, and Scott Gottlieb
was ready for him, just on a
very personal basis. I mean,
given your background, your
work, COVID, notice that
personal basis has nothing to do
with the CNBC. We love pharma
for a bit.
Wow. That is wishy washy.
Personal basis here, even just
on a very personal basis. I
mean, given your background, you
work, obviously, if I You mean,
you have the relation with
Pfizer and Illumina. Illumina,
you have the relation the
relation he's on the she's on
the board and directors. He's
essentially running the company.
You have a relation with the
Pfizer and Illumina. You could
argue that Joe and I have a
relationship with the television
world and NBC, which which
collects advertising. Here we
are saying, Actually, maybe
there's not a good idea. What do
you what do you actually think
put the laws and everything else
aside? What do you personally
think? Yeah, look, we've looked
at this with data over about 20
years at FDA, because this has
obviously been a controversial
issue. So we have commissioned,
or we did, when I was there,
commission, multiple studies
looking at what the public
health impact was of advertising
and by and large, what you found
was that, hold on a second stop.
Yeah, this actually wasn't even
the question, no,
he was beating around the bush.
He couldn't bring himself,
Sorkin couldn't bring himself to
ask, actually ask specifically
whether advertising pharma,
prescription, pharma, drugs on
TV is a good thing for the
public policy at all. He never
really asked that. He just kind
of beat around the bush. And
this is a good you mentioned
this. This guy was ready for it
with the he asked the question
himself, yes, he actually
stepped in it. He could have
avoided this whole topic. No, he
knew what to say. Is there
commission, multiple studies
looking at what the public
health impact was? He found was
that advertising seen on TV
drove people who had symptoms
into the doctor's office. Yeah,
prompted them to seek help,
seeking behavior. And
I have help seeking behavior.
Help me seeking behavior. Yeah,
restless leg syndrome. I mean,
all the crap that they're
advertising to try to get people
to buy more drugs, drove him
into the doctor's office. Maybe
these people didn't need to go
to the doctor's office. Or
hypochondriac well, he actually
had he makes, he was ready for
that to John doctor's office,
prompted them to seek help,
seeking behavior, and ultimately
got more people diagnosed. And
so the net, net public health
impact was a positive one. Now,
I know it's difficult for a lot
of physicians. Patients come in
asking for a particular
prescription because of an
advertisement that they saw, and
if it's not a good
recommendation for that
individual patient, it takes a
lot of time for a physician to
counsel them. Oh, it's actually
so it's actually bad for the
doctors you see, because people
show up saying.
Got restless leg syndrome and
anal leakage, and they don't
have that, and the doctor has to
explain, no, no, no, I don't
want to sell this to you on why
not. And doctors are very busy.
They don't have a lot of time to
have these kinds of
conversations. And so I know
there are some frustrations
among providers, from purely a
provider standpoint, in terms of
prompting patients to go in and
see physicians when they have
certain symptoms that might be
consistent with a given
condition. It provides a net
public health gain. And the
advertising is tightly regulated
in terms of what companies can
say, so those messages have to
be crafted towards trying to
promote that help seeking
behavior. So that's why they
always say,
talk to your doctor. It's that's
that's promoting help seeking
behavior. Now we have the legal
term. We finally know where it
comes from.
Uh, ask your doctor if this is
right for you. Yes, yes.
And the answer is always going
to be GLP one ozempic, or in
this case, Zep bound. Or now to
that major medical headline, the
new treatment for obstructive
sleep apnea. Major medical
headline, the condition
affecting millions of Americans,
of course. And joining us to
break it all down is ABC News
medical correspondent, Doctor
Darius Sutton, good morning.
Talk about this, because we have
set bound. It was already FDA
approved for weight loss. Now,
FDA approved for sleep apnea,
it's pretty surprising, right,
surprising
and amazing. I have some help
seeking behavior about my sleep
apnea. Can I get some some
diabetes medicine to fix that?
Yeah, of course. It's a
headline. The FDA approved for
weight loss now, FDA approved
for sleep apnea, it's pretty
surprising, right? Surprising.
It's also the first of its kind.
There is no medication that
exists that has been approved to
treat sleep apnea, and just to
help everyone understand Sleep
apnea is so much more than just
heavy snoring. These are periods
of time when you're not
breathing, without oxygen and
not treated that increases your
risk of diabetes, heart disease,
dementia. Wait a minute.
What if you don't if you don't
sleep? Well, that increase
increases your chances of
diabetes.
I know it's amazing. I'm not a
doctor, but this doesn't sound
right to me.
I thought, I thought you could
kind of get away with it the
other way, like, if you're
obese, then you may have big fat
guy, yeah, and you're snoring
because you got you can't barely
breathe anyway, and you know
you're laying in bed and you're
making a lot of noise, okay,
well, you probably diabetic
already breathing without oxygen
and not treated. That increases
your risk of diabetes, heart
disease, dementia, and it's even
be associated, been associated
with dementia. Hey, what
dementia you get? The story and
causes dementia. I'm gonna make
a prediction. Write it to you
have your book, but write it
down in the book.
Write it down. I have a pen. Go
death bound or ozempic will
eventually be a cure for
erectile dysfunction. Write it
down in the book, it's coming
lifespan now, on Friday, FDA has
approved that bound to treat
those with obesity and sleep
apnea. In these studies, up to
40% of patients had full
resolution of their symptoms and
diagnosis that could be a cure.
Oh my gosh, so what? Oh my God,
for insurance coverage, my God,
oh my gosh. This is amazing. Oh
my gosh. I didn't expect this.
Oh my gosh. So what could this
mean for insurance coverage and
Medicare? This is an ongoing
conversation. Here we talk about
these injectable weight loss
medications that bound save
active ingredient as enduro
similar ozempic insurance
companies,
it is for the treatment of
diabetes. It's been around for
more than 20 years, but not
often for weight loss. And so
likely, cost is a big factor
here. More than $1,000 a month.
More than 40% of Americans are
considered obese, and also, when
you think about it, federally,
Medicare, Medicaid, the Biden
administration has proposed a
proposal to cover the treatment
of weight loss, but that what is
Wait, wait, wait. Post, proposed
a proposal. Yeah, I had the same
How do you propose a proposal?
Or you propose a proposal piece,
and also, when you think about
it, federally, Medicare and
Medicaid, the Biden
administration has proposed a
proposal to cover the treatment
of weight loss, but that
decision will be pending on the
Trump administration. Cost is
still a big factor here. The
CMS, the Center for Medicaid
Medicare services, estimates it
can cost up to $30 billion over
a 10 year period. But it's
important to note that the CDC
cites obesity related health
conditions cost more than $170
billion a year. So there's
certainly a healthy argument for
discussion here. There's a
healthy argument, the argument
benefit analysis, bring Kennedy
in. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know
the food industry is, is, I
think we talked about on the
last show, they're like, oh,
Kennedy's coming, man, let's,
let's change the labeling
packaged foods in the US must
follow new rules in order to
call themselves.
Healthy the Food and Drug
Administration finalized its new
standards yesterday. Under the
rule, a healthy food must
contain a certain amount of
ingredients from one or more
food groups, such as fruit,
vegetables, grains, dairy and
protein. There are also limits
for added sugars, sodium and
saturated fat. Foods That Could
previously carry the labels,
such as white bread and heavily
sweetened cereals and yogurts no
longer qualify. This is the FDA
is first major change in 30
years. The new rule will take
effect within two months, just
in time. So it has to have
healthy ingredients, has to have
some carrots, got to have some
other things in there. This is
not going to work if Kennedy
gets, gets in, gets confirmed,
which is, I guess, questionable.
Well,
I've said it before, all Trump
has to do is threaten an
executive order against the drug
companies about advertising on
television, yeah, and say we're
going to just end it.
You're this advertising on
television, and, you know, for
prescription drugs on any media
other than, you know, medical
journals is, is done? Yeah,
they'll knuckle under and
they'll push Kennedy in. Okay,
we can. We'll deal with Kennedy
later. We don't need this
aggravation. We'll deal with
candidate Kennedy the way we
always deal with the Kennedys.
That could be hope not. I hope
not. Meanwhile, they are coming
for your pets. We've been
waiting for it, and it's finally
here. How you can keep your pets
safe. So for one thing, you
don't want to feed them either
table scraps or any food that's
got raw milk products,
dairy products, hold on a
second. I can stop.
So Mimi had this book that she
was working on, besides the egg
book, yeah. And this is a book
that's actually done, and I keep
thinking we should just put it
together and sell it. It was
called Making your own dog food.
Oh, that's a good and it was
based on the thesis, and I think
it's a good one, because we've
had dogs, long lived dogs. Yeah,
they eat two of us, but I had my
Spitz little American Eskimo
that I had went for about 1617,
years before he died. It was a
long lived dog, and I basically
only fed that dog scraps. Yeah,
that's what they're bred for, is
what they're meant for. And dogs
were bred to eat human garbage
because they were outside, the
outside the little compounds
that human, early humans,
humanoids used to live in these,
you know, these villages, and
they had all their garbage
outside. They threw it away
somewhere, and the dogs would
come around, and they made
friends with us because they got
to eat our leftover food. So the
idea is that, if you and Mimi
still makes a pot of leftover
crap for the dogs and so, and
the dogs live forever, and so
now they're trying to but they
do. You know, this is not good
for the pet food companies. They
like to make kibble, and his
poor dogs eat this crap. Hold
on, so, and they don't live very
long. This is really about bird
flu. This whole report is about
bird flu. That's why don't give
your Well, I just okay. I got
that in anyway. Yeah. But the
point is, is that this is
already bull crap, or any food
that's got raw milk products.
What
was that all about? Why does she
think that's so funny,
weird food that's got raw milk
products,
you know, any kind of dairy
products that you might be
coming, you know, getting
frozen. If you're giving them
table scraps and it's poultry,
make sure the poultry is very
well cooked. You want to keep
your pets safe inside. But I'll
tell you the bad news in a lot
of cats around the world that
have developed the bird flu. A
lot of them have been indoor
cats, and what they're starting
to see is that there could be
infected birds that are part of
the, you know, the composition
of the cat food. Now it's not so
much about what? Oh, yes, the
composition of the cat food. So
they're making cat food out of
dead birds. When does this
happen? What? Oh, there's a dead
crow. Let's throw them into cat
food. So the other thing you
want to do is, if you're hiking
with a dog, for example, and
they're in, you know, in the
wild, and they're touching
animal feces, they're walking
in, you're walking in feces and
stuff, keep those shoes out. And
if you're in a shelter, make
sure you have PPP on if you're
handling birds. And, you know,
the usual stuff, a lot of COVID.
Everything that we learned with
COVID 19, we should revisit the
COVID. I think what's so
confusing about this one is
it's, you know, it's birds, but
then it's also dairy, and then
it's also the food that you buy
that might be infected. I know
it's there. It's worse than
that. The way this through
secretions. It spreads through
feces. It spreads through what
we call Fauci transfer. So if
you have the infection on your
feet, you get into your car, and
then someone else gets in the
car that you're starting to
transfer the virus, you're
getting splashed molding.
You get in the car, you rub your
face on the mat. You could get
it getting a break, ladies, is
good machinery. But here's the
thing, birds,
Hey, Bill that punch pressure
got wear gloves this. Wear a
mask. They've, they've gone
insane. They really have,
they have nothing machinery. Oh
yeah, we just have to psyop
everybody. Every single minute
of the day. There's no disaster.
We can't scare you. Let's scare
you with your cat virus. You're
getting splashed with raw milk.
You're getting you're touching
machinery. Oh no. But here's the
thing, birds, so much raw milk
is out there. They make it sound
as though there's a plague of
raw you have to go out of your
way to get raw milk. I don't
care where you live. And then
she splashed me with raw milk.
Oh, no, that's for the virus
you're getting. Splashed with
raw milk. You're getting you're
touching machinery. But here's
the thing, birds fly splashing
you with raw you know, now there
are some women when they're
breastfeeding, yeah, a squirt.
They like to squirt their men,
just as a joke. That's
hilarious. So, and that's raw
milk. That's right, don't give
me birds. You're gonna give me
the bird flu. Okay, so you have
migratory birds dropping feces
in zoos, zoo animals and
endangered species, cats,
tigers, things like that, are
coming down with it, because
this is one of those diseases
that can travel the globe very,
very quickly. And so while right
now human, cat to human is
there's that one case, but we
don't know what other
comorbidities, you know, they
may also always starts with one
this, this disease is probably
one mutation away from becoming,
oh, yeah, zoonotic, yeah. It is
one mutation away, in a way.
This is the key phrase, one
mutation away, yeah. Now, what
was it? Where did this crappy
report come from? That was.
CBS,
Oh, brother, yeah. CBS, well,
let's go to como up in Seattle.
Como four drone shows empty
animal enclosures at this Wild
Cat Sanctuary in Shelton. The
wild Phillip Advocacy Center
announced more than half of its
big cats, as of this month, have
been infected with bird flu.
It's been one big nightmare,
really. I mean, never thought
something like this would happen
to us, maybe only in a facility
that had cats near each other,
and ours are spread out over
five acres. The tragedy has
deeply affected the sanctuary
workers who are grieving the
loss of 20 animals that were
part of worldwide Wildcat
conservation efforts. They
include a tiger, cougars, links
is bobcats and other big cats.
The viral infection carried by
wild birds can spread through
bird to bird contact and can
impact other mammals that eat
birds or bird droppings. We're
told cats are very vulnerable,
and symptoms happen fast, often
killing the animals within days
from conditions like pneumonia.
So tigers are dying from bird
flu. Well, pneumonia,
technically, right? And how does
that work? Because it's birds
having sex with birds. They're
getting bird flu, they're coming
into contact with each other.
This whole I'm, I'm very
skeptical about these reports
and zoos. Zoos are on high
alert. Zoos across the country
go about the fact that they
dropped, well on a second there.
I'm Skip skeptical about the
fact that they dropped a
pneumonia bomb in there. Yeah,
pneumonia is contagious, you
know, hmm, especially the
walking pneumonia.
Someone got me the song you
because you said that on the
last show, Johnny river rocking
pneumonia and the boogie woogie
flu.
Here we go.
Now.
Here we go,
rocking pneumonia and the boogie
woogie
blue. There you go. Beautiful.
It exists. Back to the zoos.
High Alert. Zoos across the
country on high alert. In
Phoenix, five zoo animals have
died after contracting avian
influenza, including a cheetah,
a mountain lion and a cucumber.
Another zoo in Seattle losing a
rare red breasted goose to the
virus. Members across the nation
are all taking precautionary
measures to make sure their
populations are safe and secure.
Experts say this strain of the
virus is unusually deadly to
mammals. Okay, so now it's a new
strain. It's not just it's still
h5 and one, but it's a new
strain that
yeah,
the mammals, yeah, yes, called
avian flu, the range of mammals
that it's infected has to six.
Ended the level of concern,
really, because it looks like
many more species are
potentially infectable at
the Los Angeles Zoo, where there
have been no cases of bird flu,
Chief veterinarian Dr Dominique
Keller is tracking the virus
closely and doing everything she
can to protect the animals under
her care.
Animals can get the virus from
the droppings of an infected
bird or by eating infected
poultry or other food. The zoo
now implementing safety measures
to minimize exposure, including
foot baths for shoes, so that's
part of the protocol and
stricter food protocol,
but the greatest risk comes from
above. The hardest thing for
zoos to control for is that a
lot of enclosures like this one
are open, so wild birds can
easily fly over or land in them,
and if one of those birds is
infected, then those animals are
exposed. The USDA has tracked
the virus in more than 10,000
wild birds across the US you're
never going to have zero risk,
so we accept that. That's part
of being a veterinarian. Some
animals getting additional
protection, like the zoo's
breeding population of
critically endangered California
condors, some of the few birds
to get a bird flu vaccine. The
zoo has many species of
endangered birds, all of whom
appreciate the extra care.
So to come back around to what
you said originally, yes, the
pet food the first human case of
bird flu in Los Angeles County
is prompting a new warning. Pet
owners are being told not to
give their animals certain raw
foods. Bird Flu samples were
found in certain Northwest
naturals, pet food products. The
food was recalled after a pet
cat in Portland, Oregon died
after consuming it. A warning
last week cautioned against
giving cats raw milk. That book
Mimi's doing is going to be
banned. Amazon will take it
right off. You can't be making
your own pet food. I'm reminded
of the company that Jay used to
work for, which was a raw pet
food company in Oakland. It had
since moved someplace else, but
her job. Her job was grinding up
rabbits, nice and ducks
and other animals to make this
raw food that was extremely
popular, especially with the
upper set in places like
Piedmont, who'd only feed their
cats this stuff. Yeah, and it
was considered the best. You
know, there's just, I'm sure the
animals loved eating it too. Has
been delicious to a cat. But
this may be part of a scheme to
kind of put the clamp, because
there's, if you haven't noticed,
on television, there's two, or
at least two companies now, then
they have these kind of mocking
commercials about the guy who's
got some sort of raw food, dog
food in his refrigerator. And
his friend says, What are you
putting dog food in the
refrigerator for? And then a guy
gets thrown out, and the guy's
there with this dog, and they're
feeding the dog this stuff. And
so there's been a big movement
to making these very high end
dog foods. This could be the
kibble industries could be plot
it could be or I never surprised
by these types of marketing
tricks. It wouldn't surprise me
either. Or maybe one of those
Haitians who's eating the geese,
eating the dogs, eating the
pets, get gets bird flu and then
starts spreading it and
spreading it amongst the Haitian
population.
It's coming. Look, Hotep,
already told us. Hotep, done.
Told you, Hotez, he said,
January test. January 21 january
21 who test is when it's
happening. It's all in Texas.
Oh, no, he's in Dallas.
It's all going down. I, you
know, literally defended Austin
there. Well, she's too close for
comfort.
I know. What am I doing? Of
course. Austin, yes,
yeah, people here. Where do you
live? Fredericksburg. Where's
that new? Oh, Austin. Oh,
Austin. Yeah, that's great.
Austin. Hill Country is a good
term. Everyone knows what that
means. Well, yeah, that's the
best part of Texas. It is. It's
considered, if you talk, oh Hill
Country, oh Hill Country. Oh
yeah, there's actually a hill
there. We've got a big hill.
Yes,
all right, what you got? You got
anything? You've got something
fun here. Got me relaxed here
with these break. I know, I
know. I'm I'm doing all the
work. You're on a roll. Doing
all the work. You can do a
couple ask Adams here. That
would be kind of fun. I think
that's a dynamite idea. I
actually have two different
ones. Oh, the first one, since
we were talking about bird flu.
This is, you don't play the
clip. This is just the answer to
the question I'm going to ask
you all right,
what is the national bird of the
United States? Well, I know the
answer to this because we talked
about this a few weeks ago, and
you I would have instinctively
said the bald eagle, but that
only just recently got signed
into law. Well.
Ah, you knew the answer to this
one. I knew the Yes. I knew the
answer to this one well, because
I was under the impression that
the bald eagle was the national
bird. But I guess it was never
the national bird. The bald we
never had a national bird. The
bald eagle is now officially the
national bird of the United
States. This after President
Biden signed some 50 bills into
law, including one that amends
US Code to give the bald eagle
that special status. Congress
adopted the design of the Great
Seal with the bald eagle front
and center in 1782 but the bird
hadn't been legislatively
designated as the national bird.
The bill was spearheaded by
Minnesota lawmakers, which is
fitting, since the state has the
second highest number of bald
eagles after Alaska. All right,
so I have asked John as a follow
up ask question, What did
Benjamin Franklin suggest to be
our national bird before he
suggested the bald eagle the
turkey Correct?
Well, that was disappointing.
He's all over the place. Is the
reason disappointing? You knew
that one. All right, let's do
the next Adam. All right. All
right. All right. Okay, so
here's another one. This is a
good one. This is politifex Lie
of the year. Uh huh. You
probably know the answer this,
no, let's go. I don't I don't
know. Okay. Well, this go the
this is the clip one is
introduces the lie of the year
question. It's safe to say the
2024, campaign cycle was unlike
any in modern American history.
The team at the fact checking
organization PolitiFact
investigated hundreds of claims
made this year by political
figures to separate fact from
fiction, as Ali Rogin reports
one comment stood out as
politifacts 2024,
lie of the year. All right, do I
play the jingle? Here is this
where I get to play the jingle?
You can play a jingle.
Will he know?
Will he won't? I don't know, but
here we go. Now. Oh, I go. No,
wait, if I was gonna answer
this, if I was trying to
psych this question out, I would
lie of the year for last year,
especially during the election,
I would, I would say, like
blood. Remember the bloodbath?
There's gonna be a bloodbath.
That's a that's a whopper. No
troops in combat zones. Another
good one, yeah. Harrison Hitler,
that's a lie. Hitler. Hitler,
there's a good one. Fascist
threat, the democracy the end of
voting. Yes, yes. How about the
grid? The grid is going down.
Oh, the grids go Oh, yeah. Oh,
that's a great lie of the year.
Yeah. So what's your guess?
My guess is
Joe Biden is as sharp as attack.
That would be the top to me. Joe
Biden being sharp as attack is
the lie of the year. Here it is.
Here's the lie of the year.
Okay, they're eating the dogs,
the people that came in, they're
eating the kids. They're eating
they're eating the pets of the
people that live there. Wow,
this is what's happening in our
country, and it's a shame that's
that was the lie of the year.
Wow, that's not a lie. They're
eating the dollars. Let's listen
to their explanation, and I have
a commentary to give you about
the history of politifacts, bull
crap, lies of the year. Those
untrue comments set off a
firestorm on the campaign trail
and had a profound impact on the
residents of Springfield, Ohio.
Now it's been named lie of the
year. Katie Sanders is the
editor in chief of Politifact,
and joins me now, Katie, thank
you so much for being here.
First of all, is there any
kernel of truth to this? And
also, how does PolitiFact
determine whether something is
an outright and deliberate lie
versus other types of untruths.
When Trump and Senator JD Vance
were asked about this lie, and
they were asked to defend it, as
so many officials and
journalists were saying there
was no evidence to support it,
they kept talking about reports
they heard from television in
Trump's case or from
constituents in the Ohio
senators case, and they
basically said that is enough
for us to make this claim. It's
enough of a basis, but people
make reports to police and other
agencies all the time, and that
just prompts an investigation.
That doesn't mean that something
actually happened, and Trump and
Vance were circulating
screenshots of allegations and
police calls that were about
geese, not people's pets, that
were later taken back by the
people who made them, who told
journalists they regretted it.
JD Vance even acknowledged that
these reports he was hearing
from his constituents might turn
out to be false, but when they
did, when they turned out to be
empty, he just kept the.
Ending the lie anyway, saying he
could do that to bring attention
to Springfield's immigration
experience.
Yeah, yeah. Blah, blah, okay, so
let's look at the lies of the
Year from these guys. They
started doing this in 2009 and
their first lie this, the lies
of the Year from PolitiFact are
always something to do with
Republicans. Always a
Republican. Always there's no
there's Joe Biden. Sharpest
attack. This is the best Joe
Biden, blah, blah, but no, no,
no, he has to be Republic, the
first one in 2009 the first lie
of the Year from PolitiFact was
Sarah Palin's saying death
penalty, right? Oh, goodness,
yes, got it. And by the way,
death panels became what they
are, which is death panels. They
still do them. Yeah, we have
them everywhere now every year.
So then you get country. So then
there was just a lull of various
weird lies. And then we get soon
as Trump shows up, 2015,
lie of the year, Trump's
campaign misstatements. Wait,
wait, the lie of the year is a
specific is a lie, not a a bunch
of misstatements put into a bag
and called lie of the year.
Okay, well, that's okay. Let's
let that slide. 2016 Trump again
for saying the term using the
term fake news, that's a lie.
That's a lie. Wow. That should
be worth term of the year. Is
what it should be, 2017
Trump again, Russian election
interference is a made up story.
No, it wasn't made up, even
though it was made up, yeah, but
that's, Trump's lie of the year.
We can go up to 2019 Trump's
claim that whistleblowers got
Ukraine call almost completely
wrong.
What? I don't even know what
that means. It was a perfect
goes on. I mean, I could just
one year after one couple more,
yeah, uh, let's go to 2021.
Lies about January 6. You know,
wasn't an insurrection I tried
to have. You know all this
Trump's Trump, Trump, Trump, and
we finally switches over to
Kennedy in 2023 out of the blue
vaccine. Vax, once Kennedy
becomes a Republican, they
wouldn't Kennedy's been saying
the same stuff for 20 years, but
now he's a republican lie of the
year. Can say Robert Kennedy's
campaign of conspiracy theories
is the the lie of the year.
Again, it's not a single thing.
It's a bunch of things. So this
political fact thing that the
fact that he even got, again,
another example of NPR
uselessness. This is just a
propaganda tool. That's great. I
love that. I think, I still
think mine was better sharp as
attack, because everybody could
get in on that one. Sharp as
attack, that's the best one.
Yes, that would be the lie of
the year. Yes, you should have,
that should have been it. We you
know, it's just we're so lazy,
but we should do stuff like
this. I mean, so here we are.
Everyone's doing lie of the
year. They write it in November.
Oh, let's do live the year. So
we could take off for Christmas.
Now, we got bird flu. We're just
doing a show for you and and
pulling this nonsense apart, but
we should be doing this stuff.
We need to do the award show. I
told you this years ago, that we
should do the Podcast Awards and
some other award shows. It's so
dumb. They have the podcast Hall
of Fame. Oh, Adam, would you
please come to Miami in January
and and be the host, the emcee
of the podcast, Hall of Fame?
I'm like, No, not gonna do that.
But how does it even make you do
it for five grand or 10 grand?
No, I wouldn't do it for any
grand. No, you wouldn't do it
for any grand. No, no, no,
because it makes no sense. The
podcast, how many people were
involved in early podcasting?
How this has been going on for
20 years? They've been doing a
Hall of Fame.
By the way, it's only Americans.
There's never any other people
in it.
It does, it doesn't make any
sense. Podcast Hall of Fame.
No, then we can get you a ticket
to the to the pod fest. They
weren't even going to pay for
the pod fest. They weren't even
gonna pay for my flight.
But that wasn't the criteria.
I'm just like, No, I don't want
to do that. They weren't gonna
pay for your flight. No, give
you a ticket to the pod Fest in
case you didn't, in case you
missed it. There's no money in
podcasting anymore. It's all
dried up, all the
a lot of it is dried up. Yeah?
What comes and goes. It's a
cycle, yeah, oh, it'll come
back, it'll come back, and it'll
always be some some new format,
and some content, you know, some
like, what was the one that was
triggered the real serious true
crime, serial, serial, yeah,
serial, one shot. It's a one
shot. Is a one, yeah? It was
like, one hit.
Wonder it was. It came at the
perfect moment everybody was
binging, Breaking Bad on
Netflix, like, Oh, this is
great. I can binge remember that
binge or binge was binge, binge
watching. It was the word of the
year, I'm sure, binge watching.
And then all sudden, along comes
audio only, mystery, true crime,
and you couldn't binge listen
it. You had to wait until the
next episode The next week, and
people liked it. They were
standing around at the water
cooler talking, oh, what? What
do you think? Did you Did he do
it? Is it true?
And by the way, this also
completely discredits the whole
you've got to have video for
your podcast to be successful.
That's nonsense. Not a single
True Crime podcast does video,
it's all audio. People like it's
the number one category for and
women especially, they love it,
morbid creatures that they are.
They like true crime. Maybe we
should do two crime, True Crime
podcast. He's too much work.
Anyway, I wanted to play this,
this interview. Before you play
it, I do have a short shorty, a
nine second clip. Oh, okay,
because this is another this PBS
and this is bull crap. This is
the clip that is Chris maca.
Oh,
Chris Micah and for the first
time in almost 20 years,
Christmas and the first night of
Hanukkah fall on the same day.
Some have given it the nickname
Chris Micah. No, they haven't.
I've never heard anybody say
this wasn't that didn't Adam
Sandler do that in a song?
Maybe. I mean, that's possible,
but nobody says Chris Micah,
nobody.
Let me see this. It has a
Wikipedia PBS giving us this
bull crap. Now it has, it has a
it has a Wikipedia entry,
yeah, let me see when this start
with Chris MC, by the way,
because someone sent us an email
about it. I looked up the form
990 for Wikimedia, the people
behind Wikipedia. Oh, yeah.
People are all adamant about
what's going on there with their
dei stuff. Do you know how much
money they they raked in in 20,
2310s of millions. Try again.
Hundreds of millions. $245
million
yeah. And most of it goes to
hating Whitey, yeah, this is a
slush fund. This is a hate there
are hate group, so slush it's a
hate group. It's really, it's,
it's a slush fund for other
stuff, and they send it all over
the world. Yeah, it's not. They
don't even use it for their own
servers. They should, like, you
know, this reminds me of the
collapse of some sir, almost the
collapse of certain podcasts.
Who I'm gonna, you know, they
asked for money, value for our
value for value. Money goes to
to the podcast. It pays the
bills. We don't take a chunk of
money that people donate to us
and then give it to somebody
else. We don't do that. No, God
no. It's like, if you want to
give it to them, go give it to
them. Why you? What would you
give it to us? To give it to
them? Yeah, that's not right,
no. And so this happened with
the Adam Carollo, when he was
asking for money for something.
Oh, there was the podcast patent
suit. Yeah, the podcast patent
suit, yeah. So, so podcasts that
were collecting money for their
podcast and then giving it to
him, yeah, well, this is what
Wikipedia is doing. Why are they
taking this money instead of
just building up their site,
making things better? Well,
trust editors giving it to
other. Trust me. This is not
coming from people sending in
their $35 to Wikipedia. This is
intelligence money.
Wikipedia can't be trusted. This
is the primary, this is, no,
they can't this is the primary
ingest method for for anyone
fact checking or any AI that is
slurping up the internet. No,
this is, this is intelligence
operation, $245 million I think
not.
I mean seriously, well,
there's definitely Intel money
involved. Now with that, I'd
like to thank you for your
courage. Say in the morning to
you, the man who put the C in,
Chris MCCA, say hello to my
friend on the other end, the one
and only, Mr. John. C'mon.
Yeah.
Well, in the morning, curry,
also in the morning, those ships
see boots on the ground, feet in
the air, subs in the motor all
the names of nights out there in
the morning,
oh, we're down. Trolls down.
1726,
wow. I was predicting 1600 I
thought it would be around 1500
honestly, but I'm surprised. I'm
in you know what? These trolls
who are here, we appreciate
every single one. There's still
a lot of trolls listening.
That's amazing. It's amazing
anybody listens to us.
You think about it, well, there
is that aspect. Amazing anybody
listeners?
So damned entertaining. Yeah,
well, we do keep getting emails
of people saying, you know, I
just feel good after listening
to your show. I hope so I get
the news and then you make me
laugh about it. Yeah, that's
what we do. We're a comedy show.
Look us up under the comedy
heading on Apple podcast.
So these trolls are trollroom.io
that's where they you can listen
in. You can join the troll room
from there. Or you can get a
modern podcast app, please. It's
podcast apps with an s.com and
there you can find pod verse,
fountain curio caster, cast O
Matic,
podcast guru, a whole bunch of
them, all with modern features,
including those wonderful
chapters that Dr Scott does for
us. He does that with the
artwork that we get from our
artists, which I'll just go
straight to that because
we have no agenda. Art
generator.com, part of our value
for value don't steal it. We're
gonna sue you for our vibe, our
value for value proposition,
which is, we work for you. We
provide this as a service, a we
believe it's a valuable service.
We just ask you to send
something back in return. People
do all kinds of things for us.
We love it when you send us
money so we can pay the bills,
as John justice just discussed.
But we also take time and talent
as treasure being the third one
and the artists, which now seem
to be pretty much prompt
jockeys, but they're out there.
Yeah? Well, yeah, this is what
it is, I guess, for now. I mean,
eventually we'll get back to
real art. Real art will never go
away. I doubt it. Yeah, what you
don't think, you think is going
to be AI for the rest of our
lives. We're less it'll be just,
it'd be as when we when it first
started off, when it was like
90% real art and 10% AI, it's
just flipped. It'll be 90% AI
and 10% real art. It won't,
you're right, it won't
completely disappear. It's kind
of sad to think about it.
Well, they upload to no agenda
Art generator.com
which is still a very valuable
service. Sir Park Latour, put
that together for us years and
years and years and years ago,
and we still use it
twice a week. And this is where
any artist and even prompt
jockeys can upload their art,
and we gladly use that as the
album art for our show. We use
it for promoting the program. It
looks good in the podcast apps.
And we always like to thank the
artists who brought that for us.
And I think this was a new
artist, Susanna Leah, did the
artwork. Always looking for
something traditional, which
Susannah Leah understood very
well. She gave us a Merry
Christmas, no agenda. Tree in
the background looked like the
balloons, balloons and candies.
I guess there were a number of
different Christmas pieces, of
course. John, immediately, was I
like the cheesecake? Yeah, the
cheesecake one is really good.
But no, then you wanted just the
tip by Francisco Scaramanga,
which you thought it was cute.
The girl is biting the snowman
carrot nose. Yeah? Okay, John,
like we didn't, we didn't know
what that was. All about missing
it, yeah. And by the way, I
should mention that I did use
that for the newsletter. It's a
very for a scaramonger, because
Cara manga normally uses, it
does stuff that has got more
dimensionality. It's not
cartoony, like this piece is. I
just thought this piece was
extremely well executed by the
AI deliver whatever he's doing
there. Yeah, yeah. Well, we knew
exactly what was being
insinuated there, and I'd Nix
that. I'll have none of that.
Well, I used it anyway, yeah,
well, you can use it on your
newsletter. That's fine.
You mixed it because you're a
prude. You saw into it things
that didn't exist. It is a
carrot. It existed
was unnecessary.
Let's see. We had a couple
Grinches, we had Santa slays. We
had what else did we have here?
We had and it was nice. There
were other Merry Christmas bits,
but a lot of them from Scara
manga, with bits and boobs a
lot, and Darren, Darren O'Neill.
It's like Darren's and Scara
Mangus. Those two girls in the
Santa outfits with the with the
legs, yeah, it looks like
they're using the same software.
Oh, those two pieces, Merry
Christmas by O'Neal and
cheesecake for whatever. There's
this basically the same piece,
yeah, but
it's like we're already two old
white guys. I mean, do we really
have to ham it up like that?
This, those guys are, like,
deteriorating in their,
yeah, in their, in their
lasciviousness, that way,
lasciviousness, there you got,
yeah, we were in the hotel room,
and Christina and Kevin, her her
fiance, were coming by to
celebrate Christmas dinner with
us. And so I tried to find on
YouTube. I was like, how about
just some nice, you know, like,
I want the you log, only want a
Christmas.
Scene, and YouTube is filled
with videos that are Christmas
scenes, but it's all AI, and you
got people jerking around, and
it's so obviously AI, you can't
even get a normal, like
Christmas scene, like you used
to be able just get to
Rockefeller Plaza. You know, you
could see people skating on
Rockefeller Plaza. You can't get
that anymore. No, it's all AI
swap.
I feel like culture is going
down the drain.
I really do.
Oh, yeah, what can I say? A
couple of weeks in Europe, and
next thing you know, you've
turned into I know I got to get
back to Texas quick, where
things are positive, Texas,
where the conspiracies are
thriving, back to the hill
country. Thank you all very
much, artists. We appreciate you
very much for for doing this.
It's always fun for us after
we've done a show, then sit down
and look at the art and laugh.
We do laugh. We laugh a lot of
stuff that's just inappropriate.
It's really for us. It's humor
for us after the show. So it's
great, and we love having good
art
to use for our show to promote
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Jingle, they're eating the dogs.
They're eating the cats. They're
eating the people's pets.
Timothy Wilkinson, you got it in
Springfield, they're eating the
dogs, the people that came in,
they're eating the cats. They're
eating they're eating the pets.
Of the people that live there,
I love that. Everyone in Europe
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It's so good. Well, when we
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And she was snickering and
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she's got her hand to her face,
and she's she's doing a great
job of
scene stealing during the
debate. Got the big smile on her
face and everything, yep, yep.
And he's just looking for
something to say to get some
some attention to himself. And
he drops this bomb out of the
blue and and it just goes to
show that in this day and age,
that's what works. But not.
There's no one out there talking
about the coconut tree. You
know, there's no memes. And
actually, I would say that the
way this got around the most is
there were one or two, possibly
YouTube videos where guys were
had sampled this. They're eating
the dogs. And I did whole songs
about it. Everyone saw those
songs.
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Let me see there were a couple
other things that we needed to
talk about. Let's get these
China clips out of the way. You
got some China clips, all right?
I like China. I have a couple
China minerals. China's
dominance over the supply of
critical minerals in the
spotlight today, the select
committee on the Chinese
Communist Party details their
findings and proposed solutions,
and today's Melina Weiss cup was
at that meeting on Capitol Hill.
She brings us the latest and
they listed their findings after
investigating the ways in which
the US is dependent on the
Chinese Communist Party for
critical minerals. Why is this
important? Because those
critical minerals are used to
produce key elements such as
semiconductors, anything from
basic consumer goods all the way
up to advanced military
technology. So it's a real
problem, the fact that the
Chinese Communist Party has
dominance over those minerals.
So what they lawmakers did is
they tried to find ways in the
US that we can streamline the
production and processing here
mine for those minerals and try
to loosen up some of the
dominance the Chinese Communist
Party has over them. They're
also today introducing three
pieces of bipartisan legislation
that is Republicans and
Democrats coming together to try
to find solutions in this area,
to help us be more independent
in the critical minerals arena.
I spoke to the Chairman John
Molinar about their efforts
here. Why is it crucial to
address this issue? Here's what
he told me, as well as one of
the Democrats that's also on
this committee, listen, what do
you think is the most crucial
step that will have the most
beneficial outcome? You know, I
think the area of allowing the
Department of Interior the
Secretary to do an analysis of
what friendly nation.
We can work with who already are
mining, who already are
processing, and identifying how
we can immediately lessen our
dependence. To me, that's a very
good first step, and then we
need to build the stronger
infrastructure of doing things
here.
Okay, this morning, by the way,
there was a report they're going
after Apple
the Republic of Congo, or the
Democratic Republic of Congo, or
the Congo for slave labor, slave
labor, children. Well, it seems
as if the Rwandans are going
into the Congo and stealing
minerals, which are then used in
the Apple iPhone. Even though
this is a stretch, it's China.
They don't even mention China,
because China is the one that
makes the Apple iPhone. It's,
they're not making it in, you
know, here in Milpitas.
Well, it's assembled in the USA.
We're not using the minerals
here. The minerals aren't going
here, no. So there's something
sketchy about this. There's
trying to gouge the apple. I
think they're just putting it
well, you know, Apple is on deck
to be gouged. Apple is we think,
yeah, yeah. I think they've been
gouging their customers for
years. So there you have that.
Yeah, but they're on deck to be
usurped by someone. Somehow,
something's gonna happen. They
have not had, how I'm gonna use
the phrase a moon shot since
Steve Jobs died. You know,
that's the stupid Apple vision
Pro, which I like the idea of
spatial computing. But no, they
don't really have anything. It's
just because they're, they're
Apple intelligence. They can
make emojis. Man, I tell you,
every single one of the
millennials, so these are all
between 25 and 28 years old at
the Christmas Shindig. They love
my flip phone. They're like,
this is cool. I want this. They
all wanted that flip phone.
And I'm not sure why exactly
did you ask? Yeah. I said, Why
exactly? And I said, Well, it's
different. And everybody, you
know, they all, I will say, they
all have set limits on they've
removed tick tock. They've all
removed tick tock. It's like,
no, no, I had to, I had to get
stuff done. I had to remove tick
tock. I was addicted to tick
tock. They say that hands down.
And so you can put limits. I,
I'm, I don't know if it's on
Android, but you can, on the
Apple iPhone, you can put a,
like a two hours per day limit,
and then after the two hours up,
you can't use two hours of
Tiktok. No. Instagram.
Oh, even worse. Yeah,
yeah. I'll play part two of this
clips. Now there are several
issues at hand here, but one of
the main issues that we heard
from all of the lawmakers is the
issue of processing. So in a
sense, what happens is that when
we do have those minerals, we
send them to China for the
processing and then buy them
back. So we're essentially
losing money to be able to have
that processing done in China,
and at the same time giving the
Chinese Communist Party more
control over those critical
minerals. Now, the chairman also
listed how dependent we are, so
I'll just give you a couple of
examples here. So the Chinese
Communist Party processes 95% of
the world's manganese, 73% of
its cobalt, 70% of the graphite,
and 3% of global nickel. So you
can see how much of a hand the
Chinese Communist Party really
has over those key minerals. One
Congressman that I spoke to had
very interesting ideas. He gave
an example of lithium and the
innovation that could be used in
order to make lithium obsolete,
in a sense, so that we could
change the game, change the way
things are working, so that all
of the money and research that
the Chinese Communist Party has
put into those minerals could be
pointless, and then we could
really have the upper hand.
Listen what this Congressman had
to say. Maybe, maybe lithium
becomes obsolete. It's not
needed because of any material
that can actually do it better
than lithium. And then what
you've done is you've changed
the paradigm so they stifle it
here, where we do it much
cleaner. And so what happens?
The capacity is shipped over
overseas, to to China, where
they don't really care about the
environment. I mean, all you got
to do is go to China. I was
there about seven years ago. I
didn't see the sun for 10 days.
Why? Because all the pollution.
No. Brother, hmm, yeah, you
know, then get rid of the
lithium and use something
different. Yeah. I mean, come
on, what are you gonna use?
They finally, I think they're
trying to pass bills now to
outlaw, you know, unapproved or
non certified lithium ion
batteries, particularly ones
using E bikes, etc, no, because,
you know, New York is like, this
stuff is burning down buildings,
yeah. Well, these things are
dangerous. They just Yeah, stop.
You know, publishing, what about
the climate change agenda?
They're bringing it on
themselves. How about
themselves? How about this
pedal?
It's the concept, what pedal?
Actually? Pedal a bike. Pedal
your bike. Yes, I'm.
Launching this new meme, pedal
your bike. You don't need an E
bike. Just pedal. It's good for
you. You'll be healthy. You get
your you know, with gear, with
the something, there's a
process. It's a mechanical
process called gears. No, yes,
you can actually pedal fast. You
can pedal faster and faster and
faster with the same basic
effort. But who because of
gears. But who are we kidding?
John, these are the coffee
Badgers,
the coffee badgers. Badgers,
coffee coffee badgers. Yes, it's
a concept called Coffee badging.
Yeah, I never heard this,
neither had I but here's a CNBC
report on the topic meet Mr. A
every morning. Mr. A strolls
into the office at 9am swiping
his badge with perfect
enthusiasm. He hits a few
meetings, grabs coffee with
colleagues, and keeps the daily
buzz going. But here's the
twist, come noon, he sneaks out,
heading home to wrap up his work
in comfort. By around five, he's
clocked out. Mission
accomplished. Mr. A has
redefined the nine to five in
his own terms. And
interestingly, this trend also
has an a new trend emerging in
the back to Office push, and
that is coffee badging. Coffee
badging is two worlds colliding.
It's employers wanting to get
their workers back into the
office, and employees desire to
really have more flexibility on
the job. And so that's coming
together in this trend of coffee
badging. Coffee badging is
happening because workers are
using this as a soft revolt
against their return to Office
mandates that companies have put
out, and they just like, badge
in, have a coffee, check in with
their colleagues, do some work,
and then leave their office
early. There it is coffee
badging. Why is it called Coffee
badging? Because you use your
badge to check in because, you
know, we don't know this
anymore, yeah. Well, what's the
guy? Wait,
I have a cup of coffee. But I
guess it has, you had to have a
cup of coffee, don't you that?
Mean, it sounds like no, no. You
have no. You're misunderstanding
the process is you sign in with
your badge every every office.
We don't know this anymore,
because we don't have an office.
You walk into the, I know the
process, you have a little
badge. Yeah, everyone's checked.
And the cool gig, the cool kids,
have a badge on a kind of a
spring thing. You pull it out of
a of a thing, and you and then
you let it go, and it snaps back
back. Yes. Okay, so you're now
registered, because everything
these days is registered, and
you know, that's why they have
the mouse movers and all this.
Yeah, this is the now, I'm not
exactly sure, but I guess it's
somehow different than having a
punch clock. It's the same
thing.
Yes, then you get on your bake,
a light phone,
and you send some memos from
your typewriter, but yes. And
then so you go in, you do a
meet. He's checking with her,
hey, hey, good morning. GM, how
you doing everybody? Pura Vida,
Okay, how's it going? And you do
a meeting. And then at noon, you
triple out, and you go home and
you sit on your laptop, or you
have your mouse mover working,
that we have no productivity, or
we have too much middle
management that doesn't need to
be here. That's probably the
real problem. Well, that's the
real deal. But what's what's got
to do with coffee
well, because you go in and you
say hi to everybody around the
coffee machine. That's so
everyone sees your face.
So looks like, you know, we I
saw him this morning. Yeah, he's
around. He's probably in his Oh,
I see his mouse is moving. He's
in the office.
Okay, yeah, I have another
there's a phrase that I heard
over the over dinner, and I want
you to tell me if you know this
phrase, what? What is it when a
person dips? When a person dips?
Yeah, yeah, this I'm told by Jay
and Brandon, oh, everybody knows
this term.
I have to say I am not familiar
with the term. I didn't know it.
Either. I don't know. I've never
heard it. Is it dipping tobacco?
That's, well, that would be odd.
That would be what it should
mean, yeah, yeah, no. It means
Leave, leave.
That's dipping you dip.
Yeah. They were talking about Oh
yeah. JC and just gonna come
over, then they're gonna dip.
That's what she said. Just says
this. And of course, anybody
that says stuff like this at my
table, they get a they get a
grilling. I'm not that old,
so I bring it up. What is this
supposed to mean? What is this
an idea? Are you gonna start
using this kind of street art?
Gotcha Yes, at the table. Well,
if you're gonna end up being
grilled about it, yes, and what
kind of gang member you're
getting this from, well, you
should tell them is, if you do
that, you're a dipshit. There
you go. Actually, there's a
dipshit gag that was involved in
the whole thing. But, well, you
know who?
Not dipping
is these poor astronauts who are
still on the space station, more
than six months after starting
what was supposed to be an eight
day mission to the International
Space Station. Astronauts Sunita
Williams and her space station
family are now preparing to
spend the holidays right there
in space. Welcome to the
International Space Station as
we get ready for the Christmas
holidays, it's a great time of
year up here. We get to spend it
with all of our family up on the
International Space Station.
There's seven of us up here, and
so we're going to get to enjoy
company together. Williams and
fellow astronaut Butch Wilmore
were less stuck aboard the ISS
back in June, after a leak in
their Boeing spacecraft made
their return trip impossible, a
SpaceX resupply mission gave
them gifts and fresh ingredients
to make special meals just for
the holidays. The pair were
supposed to come home back in
February, but a delay in
launching their replacements
means they'll actually have to
wait until March or April to
come back to Earth. Something is
wrong here. Elon, I agree, but I
tell you, the overtime must be
unbelievable.
Elon, you know, had the
opportunity to be the hero, to
show to shine all over Boeing to
send up a starship and bring
them back home safely. Instead,
he sends up hats and a Christmas
tree and a canned ham. You know,
I'm thinking there's, there's an
issue with the docking, or that
there's been so many maybe this,
maybe this thing is a dud,
maybe, maybe they can't dock
anymore.
I have a bad feeling about this.
It doesn't make sense. And yeah,
Elon should have brought him
back in February. Should have
been done deal that would have
been perfect. Yeah, now they put
it off another month or two, not
more than that, march, march or
april,
month or two or three.
Okay, on Elon, just for a
moment,
we're still the M 5m. Is still
trying to break up the bromance
between Elon and President Trump
and Jen pasaki, who was clearly
drunk in this clip is adding her
part. So now, of course there's
lots of speculation about when
his Tell me that's not drunk.
Wow,
plastered. So now, of course
there's lots of
speculation. So now, of course
there's lots of speculation
about when his this relationship
might, as has happened so many
times over the years, with
Trump's generals and people,
feels kind of inevitable, right?
I mean, the thing is, this is
not going to be the same,
though, as Trump casting aside a
Scaramucci or Rex Tillerson,
because Elon Musk is the richest
man in the world. He owns a
social media megaphone, a
platform where he has over 200
million followers, and we just
saw the power he wields over the
Republican Party. He also has
billions of dollars in
government contracts. I mean,
we're relying on Space X rockets
to get American astronauts to
space and back. This is not an
easy relationship to untangle my
point. So yes, I mean, this
breakup could happen, but if it
does, and it may take longer
than we suspect, I do think if
it does, it's going to be very,
very messy.
Wow, that's an in depth report
that brought nothing to the
party or the table. Why? But she
was, yeah,
it's a lead in to what, by the
way, wasn't Elon Musk going to
buy MSNBC, you dopes. Well, that
was that. That was a lark that
he put, somebody put out there,
and then someone amplified it.
But it all freaked out. I will
say it's getting to Trump just a
little bit, just a tiny, tiny
bit. As you saw, the President
Elect acknowledged the line that
Democrats have really seemed to
latch on to during the budget
negotiations. President musk,
take a listen to one response
that the President had,
President Elect at Russia,
Russia, Russia, Ukraine,
Ukraine, Ukraine, all the
different hoaxes. The new one is
President Trump has ceded the
presidency to Elon must? No, no,
that's not happening.
But Elon has done an amazing
job. Isn't it nice to have smart
people that we could rely on?
I think it's getting to him just
a little bit well, they they
know how to needle fraud him,
and they've been doing it, and
they don't do it just a little
bit, they all team up. And I
think it, I mean, he knows
what's going on, but he's
it does. But I think it bothers
him, Chris, it does, but it has
been fantastic because Elon
takes all the arrows and he just
sits in Mar a Lago. I think Elon
is a guy.
That is the perfect foil.
Fantastic. He can put up with
it. He's Asperger's, you know,
plus plus one. And he's like,
you know, I don't seem to care.
He's he's more impervious to
complaints than than Trump is,
speaking of Asperger's plus.
This was a very interesting
interview with our Pennsylvania
friend,
Senator John Fetterman, which, I
think what was this on, was
this, I think it was ABC. And I
don't even know if, if he knows
what he was saying, because they
cut this, you know, because he's
very his speeches, although his
speech is better, he just goes
off the rails. He does the
weave, but never comes back. And
they edited this. There must
have been, I stopped counting
after 1010, edits in this one
piece, and he's like, Oh, I'm
kind of, you know, we got to
stop this nonsense. He's pro
Trump. It was, I thought he is
really interesting. I'm just a
regular Democrat. I'm not
leaving my party, but I'm not
sure why some of the things that
I've chosen to do, like meeting
with nominees and having views
that might be more aligned with
some of the Republican side, I
think that's part of politics.
Like I've been warning people
like, You got to chill out, you
know, like the constant, you
know, freak out. It's not
helpful. So, you know, pack a
lunch. Pace yourself.
He hasn't even taken office yet,
because I'm not rooting against
him. If you're rooting against
the president, you are rooting
against the nation and and I'm
not ever going to be where I
want a president to fail so
country first. I know that it's
become maybe like a cliche, but
it happens to be truth. You have
a singular political talent.
It's undeniable. Trump, you
know, he had the energy and
almost a sense of fearlessness
to just say all those kinds of
thing and people, it's, it's
undeniable that it has an
entertaining aspect for that
too. I never believed that it
was about fascism, and for me,
that made it difficult for
Harris said that he was a
fascist. Well, it's like, that's
a prerogative. I mean, but, but
it's not a word that I would
use, because you put a lot of
Democrats, especially in my
state, that I know, and I happen
to love, people that are going
to vote for Trump, and they are
not fascist. And also fascism.
That's not a word that regular
people, you know, use that, you
know, I think people are going
to decide who is the candidate
that's going to protect and
project, you know, my version of
the American way of life. And
that's what happened.
Unbelievable. He's, he's, I'm
glad you got that clip. He's an
okay guy. He's an okay guy. The
one point he makes in there,
which I didn't consider at the
time, but it should have been
considered, which is, he's right
about the word fascist. Nobody
knows what that means. Yeah,
they think they do.
You know, there's just, it's
just like, it's a term from
World War Two and before, I
mean, it became a thing in the
20s, and it became a movement
Fauci out of Italy, actually.
And then it became a party, and
then it became part of the Nazi
ethos, and say. And then it
disappeared from use, and it
hasn't been used since, in any
real sense, ever since. And so
what 20 year old or 30 year old
even knows what it means or
cares? Well, the Democrats are
pounding it out fascism fashion
lie of the year. It should have
been. But no,
yeah, he's, he's got a he's very
common sense. Ish, yeah. And by
the way, the Italian guys, 40
and over, they understand what
Fascism is, because they say the
European Union, Brussels
fascist. And they're right,
that's the definition of
fascism, right there, yeah.
Well, the Italy's really, you
know, was the foundation of
fascism. And so they would, they
invent have it in their culture
and in their history. They
invented it. They know what it's
about. They invented it. They
did good at it. It was and by
the way, it was an academic
movement out of the
universities. You know, we went
to a winery while we were in
Florence. We went to the
Castillo de versano, yeah, and I
did not know that the Verrazano
guy who has the castle there
where they still do Chianti
wine, that he's the guy that
discovered the Hudson Bay, and
that's the Verrazano Narrows
Bridge is named after him. Yeah,
I didn't know that. Yeah, would
you and you know how we, how we,
how we ended up
dead? Yes. Do you know how.
Do you know how he ended dead?
No, you get
well, he went on to discover the
Bahamas, and then there were
cannibals, and they ate him.
Well, that's what Joe Biden got
that story.
They tell you that on the tour
they have behind the Bahamians,
Bahamians cannibalism going on,
and they ate this guy. That's
the story. They're looking for,
an Italian meal. Was that the
deal? Yes, pasta. Here we go get
this Verrazano guy.
So while they're while Fetterman
is all lovey dovey with Trump,
they the Congress the house
decided to screw gates, who's
been doing some screwing of his
own, a new house ethics report
is out accusing former
congressman Matt gates of
violating state laws regarding
prostitution, statutory rape and
drug use. The 37 page report
finds that gates paid women for
sex or drugs on at least 20
occasions, and includes text
message screenshots where gates
asked women to bring, quote, a
full compliment of party favors
hotel. The committee says that
this was a code word for ecstasy
or other drugs. Another exchange
shared by the committee an
unnamed woman and gates seem to
be arguing over pay. When she
asks gates, quote, so I'm not to
be taken care of for last week,
Gates respond saying, quote, I
gave you 250 today and about
last week says, quote, You gave
me a drive by now, Gates is
striking back at the report on
his ex account, hosting or
reposting about it more than 30
times since its release, writing
in part, quote, they did this to
me in a Christmas Eve Eve
report, and not in a courtroom
of any kind where I could
present evidence and challenge
witnesses. Trump, meantime,
continues to stand by gates late
last night, Gates posting this
picture with the caption, I got
a great note from President
Trump. The note is written on a
printed headline of the story
and reads, Matt, very unfair.
So it was like $100,000
for 10 escorts.
Yes, there was a that that is
kind of distressing, eight
grand, but the other there's
other 100 grand. Yeah, there's a
there's other aspects of the
story that should be noted.
Yeah, and there's three of them.
First off, the woman who accused
gates, dude said she was 17 and
accused accused gates. She's,
I'm, according to one news
report, and the reporter seems
to be a real guy who used to
work for Associated Press,
claims she's actually in jail
for pulling the stunt of sexual
accusations. Oh, interesting.
And she's in the slammer, okay?
And so there's that one thing.
The second thing is that lot of
this is set up so gates can sue
Congress over the release of
this information. Interesting,
because they're not supposed to
do so there's a lawsuit that's
possible. And if this woman's in
prison, I think that could, that
could go through. And the third
thing is, Marjorie Taylor Green
has come out, and I think
reasonably So, and says, if
we're going to start releasing
this sort of thing, let's
release all these. We have a ton
of these things backed up. Of
all the bribes that have been
going on from Congress have paid
off, you know, pages and
bookers, $27 million yeah, it's
some huge amount. It's a huge
amount. If you're going to
release this one report, let's
release all the reports and
later, let it go. Yeah, and I
think she's right. Good idea.
That would be fun, good for the
show. That'd be great fun for
the show. And I bet you'd be
great for this show, bitch. And
Nancy Pelosi has a couple of
them on her name, you wouldn't
be surprised. Yes. And then
there's this, this report, which
I'm troubled by both parties in
our country, about this, Donald
Trump's team criticizing
President Biden after his
decision to commute the
sentences of most federal death
row inmates to life in prison, a
spokesperson for Trump's
transition team saying, quote,
these are among the worst
killers in the world, and this
abhorrent decision by Joe Biden
is a slap in the face to the
victims, their families and
their loved ones. President
Trump stands for the rule of
law, which will return when he
is back in the White House after
he was elected with a massive
mandate from the American
people, early yesterday, the
White House announcing Biden is
taking 37 people off a federal
death row, not commuting, three
individuals, one of two brothers
responsible for the Boston
Marathon bombing, Dylann Roof
who killed nine people at a
historically black church in
Charleston, South Carolina, and
Robert Bowers, who killed 11 at
Pittsburgh Tree of Life
synagogue. In a statement, Biden
pushed back against the use of
the death penalty at the federal
level, saying, quote, make no
mistake, I condemn these
murderers. Grieve for the
victims of their despicable
acts, and eight, for all of the
families who have suffered
unimaginable and irreparable
loss. And good conscience, I
cannot stand back and let a new
administration resume executions
that I halted the.
This is so troubling, because on
one hand, you have the Democrats
and Biden with a moral issue,
saying, Hi, we can't kill
people, but we all want
abortion. And then, yeah, this
has always been the classic
irony, both the Democrats, the
Republicans, yes, because the
Republicans are pro life, except
when it comes to executions,
yes, like, how does the
Democrats are pro death? Except
when it comes to executions,
it's just like, what? And so
people pick a side and then
Biden screws this, I think is
that just some other people that
came on and gave testimony about
the testimony, they came out and
discussed this on these shows.
And it's like, if Biden is going
to do this, because he's so
adamant about the death penalty,
why did he leave the three guys
still on death row? Yeah, if
you're gonna do it, you you let
everybody off. You don't have
you don't pick three guys as
well. You know, these guys just
said I drive draw the line with
them.
It just doesn't make any sense.
I mean,
it's against my morals, any kind
of death. But if you're going to
do it, give us the television,
right? So we can broadcast live.
But you've always wanted that.
You know that I want to
broadcast billionaire move,
that's right. We want the the
television, right? So the
executions and the abortions,
it'll end people's thirst for
death forever. But that's
probably true. Ratings it's a
positive thing to ratings
bonanza. I'm telling you, it
would be great they have that.
They used to do, that they used
to have the executions in the in
the in the town square. Yeah,
they did. Yeah, I know. Then
we're gonna hide it. Now, hide
it. So I have a clip that's
interesting. Now, I don't know
that this is true. I don't it's
it looked like it was a PBS
clip, I think because they
showed the video, and this is
distressing. And at the same
time, I like to see it done to
somebody do a scientific version
of it instead of this random
thing. It could be bull crap,
but it doesn't surprise me if it
is true. This clip is the lizard
DNA clip.
Okay, I wanted to see what would
happen if I sent my pet lizard
DNA into 23 at me, and so, with
the help of my wife, we
extracted enough saliva to send
off in the mail. We were so
excited to see the results.
After about three months, we
were shocked. My lizard was 51%
Ashkenazi Jewish. He was also
48% West Asian.
This was really interesting.
They also gave us a little bit
of his background and his
history, what he liked to eat,
etc,
let us know which animals. Yeah,
I don't believe in these DNA
tests anymore, ever since we
sent off two separate tests for
our dog and they came back
wildly different. It's I don't
trust it. I think is bogus too,
but I don't I can believe that
they'd send a lizard saliva in
and get Ashkenazi Jew, which,
apparently everybody in the
world turns out to be a certain
percentage of that. Yes, and
that doesn't surprise me, since
the company is founded by the
woman who is married to an
Ashkenazi Joe. I mean,
there you go, but it's 23
they're not even in business
anymore.
I think they're still doing
testing. Oh no. Why would anyone
say it doesn't mean they're not
bankrupt, but whatever the case.
Okay, so we heard, once again,
this is 2024 the hottest year on
record for climate change due to
climate change. And it was
interesting to see that it had
not snowed in the Alps, in the
portion of the mini Alps where
we went with for my brother in
law's birthday party, there was
snow there for the first time in
five years, but it still is
still the hottest year on
record, and they were trying to
keep it up over there on NBC.
It's the picture perfect
Hollywood holiday, a white
Christmas full of snow and
wonder movies like It's a
Wonderful Life, Merry
Christmas, Home Alone,
elf and countless more. And
before the silver screen came
Silver Bells, White Christmas
and other iconic songs
connecting snow and Christmas in
our collective American psyche.
But now the idea of a white
Christmas may become a thing of
fiction this week. Mostly
everyone, coast to coast,
experiencing warmer than average
temperatures, a big reason for
the difference climate change.
Climate change typically the
highest chances of a white
Christmas in the US are in the
Upper Midwest, Adirondacks and
northern New England, and in the
West, higher elevation, Sierra
mountain ranges. But climate
change is continuing to drive up
temperatures across the nation.
Just last year, the National
Weather Service.
Service reported only about 17%
of the lower 48 experienced a
white Christmas with one inch or
more of snow on the ground, the
lowest number since measuring
that started in 2003 some of the
biggest cities up north, like
Washington, DC, Philadelphia and
New York City haven't seen snow
on Christmas day since 2009
the Environmental Protection
Agency studied why, and says in
almost 80% of locations, they're
getting less snow and more rain.
But whoops, some might find a
great news either way, the
National Weather Service office
out of New York, officially
declaring it is a white
Christmas.
First time since 2009
there's a tweet. So they
actually sent people out to
measure at Central Park this
morning at 7am and for those of
you not familiar, there is a
technical definition of a white
Christmas. You've got to have
one inch of snow on the ground.
And again, this is all for
bookkeeping. It can be relative.
I mean, if it's me and I look
out the window and I see some
snowflakes flying around. I'm
calling it a white Christmas,
but this is for the books, first
one that we've had since 2009
and actually in oh nine, we had
two inches of snow on the
ground.
So due to climate change, it
snowed, I guess.
What a crock. It really is.
What? I guess people don't
believe it anymore. It's just
too bad, but we're spending so
much money on it.
All right, to get this to wrap
this, show up, John, I see you
have them, so I
guess some
clips. But I mean, I could push
through these around, because I
have some I have a couple of
news. Well, I wanted to play
that. Yeah, I have two other
ones. I got a couple of tick
tock clips. I gave you the G
list. Yeah, I know you did, but
you didn't get cued to do that.
You just did it.
You didn't press the button. I
know I got this button here, and
I didn't press I just want to
play the climate mammoth found.
I think this is interesting,
because you talk about climate
change. I had a climate clip. I
should have seen it. I should
have seen it. You're right. The
climate mammoth story, it's
important. It's big. Everyone's
talking about it. Scientists in
Siberia have unearthed what they
say may be the best preserved
body of a wooly mammoth ever
found. The 50,000 year old
remains of the female baby
mammoth are complete with flesh,
skin and bones. She's believed
to have been just a year old
when she died, they found her in
the melting permafrost, which
has been accelerated by climate
change that's led to more
prehistoric discoveries in
recent weeks, including the
35,000 year old mummified body
of a saber tooth kitten, also in
Siberia, it was so well
preserved, a lead researcher
said its fur was, quote,
surprisingly soft due to climate
change. Climate change is great.
There shouldn't be petting dead
animals. You get bird flu that
way. Don't pet the dead animals.
People stop it.
I thought climate change, that
was a good that's good side of
climate change. Why they don't
see it as a good positive. And
it was a kitten. It was a wooly
metal what was it? A Saber Tooth
kitten. Kitten. Saber Tooth
kitten. That's a new one Saber
Tooth kitten. And now I have
this one other clip I'd like to
get out of the way, which is the
Ukraine stolen Russian money.
Clip, oh boy. Officials in
Ukraine say they've received the
first billion dollars in
promised loans from the United
States, backed by proceeds of
frozen Russian assets. Appears.
Brian Mann reports from Kyiv
that the funding comes as part
of a $50 billion loan plan
created by g7 leaders last
summer. Ukraine's Prime
Minister, Danish mahal said on
social media, the first billion
dollars have arrived. That's out
of 20 billion in loans expected
from the US, with an additional
30 billion in support slated to
come from other big industrial
g7 countries, including Britain
and Canada, we thank our
American partners and the World
Bank for this important step
toward justice. Mahal said the
arrangement allows countries to
support Ukraine's economy and
military with massive loans,
with payback coming from revenue
from Russia's overseas assets
frozen after the 2022 invasion,
Russian officials have condemned
the arrangement as fraudulent,
posting on social media that
loans and other support for
Ukraine will prolong the war.
So what do they do with this
money? Stealing money? I just
find it deplorable, yeah, but
they're going to spend it on war
stuff, on us.
Well, I don't know, maybe I hope
so.
All right, so I'm gonna play, I
got three talk clips I can play
three. Okay, yeah, is that too
many mobile let's see how they
do. Okay, well, let's start with
the one, the trans girl. I don't
know if it's a girl or a guy, a
guy being a girl or girl being a
guy. I guess it's a girl. You.
That is trans somehow. But
whatever the case, she hates
now, hates her dad because he
voted for Project 2025 which I
didn't know is on the ballot.
You know, I had voted in this
last election. I looked and I
didn't see a vote there for
Project 2025 but I guess maybe
in some areas there was. Let's
see what she has to say. Um, I
took yesterday to be angry and
miserable, and I also took
yesterday to make the decision
to block my father, who will
still end up seeing this. So,
hi, Dad. And yes, I did block
him because of who he voted for,
because he knows that I am
trans, and he knows that I have
had two abortions, and he still
voted for Project 2025 Which to
me, is reprehensible. I have my
husband who loves and supports
me to the ends of the earth. I
have my friends who love and
support me to the ends of the
earth, and I have other family
members who love and support me
to the ends of the earth, and I
genuinely do not need anyone
else. I realize this is
something not everyone is able
to do safely, and I'm very
grateful for my ability to do
that safely. I cut my mother off
until the day she died, and I
can and will do that again.
I find it also that terrible. I
find it very sad
that she's a sad these people
are all sad. Yeah, there's
another good example. This is
the Christmas candy lady.
Christmas candy lady, okay, I
just walked some Christmas candy
that my neighbors make every
year and leave on people
people's porches. I just walked
it back over to their house and
stuck it on their porch and
walked away. That's unlike me,
but
they've had their giant Trump
take America back again flag up
for months.
They know my daughter's
transgender. I've tried talking
to them about it, kindly and
gently, asking them not to do
something that would basically
destroy my child, and they
didn't care. So at this moment
in time, I feel that it would be
really hypocritical of me to
accept a gift from them. I don't
care that it's Christmas, okay.
Me Christmas every day. Give my
daughter the gift of safety, a
bathroom she can use in her name
and her gender. How about that?
Give her that,
and then you can do all the
candy you want, until then you
can take your candy back again.
You know, the common theme here
is narcissism. This is the
common theme. These these people
are narcissists. It's all about
them. It's not about her
daughter and the other one's not
about her. It's about her. And
I, should, I should, you know?
So we were at breakfast at the
hotel in Florence, and, and
we're sitting down and, and
there's a whole bunch of people
there. It's a busy, you know,
it's a buffet breakfast. And
right next was this table with
mom, dad and two kids. And these
kids, they're, you know, they're
noisy. They're running around.
You know, which would you ever
let your kid run around in a
restaurant? No, no, of course
not. You say, shut up. Shut up.
You're bothering people. So the
dad is just looking into space
while Mom is on her phone. The
whole time
she's completely oblivious to
the kids, to her husband, and
then I think the father said,
maybe one thing, hey, is Be
quiet. And then it switched and
then she was off looking into
space, and he was on his phone.
I mean, it's there's something
inherently narcissistic about a
generation that's grown up with
phones. And by the way, why are
you putting this on tick? Tock,
you know, the big question,
yeah, I think you, you that's a
very interesting observation,
is, I've always felt the same
way. Why are you narcissism,
defining narcissism, why are you
putting this on tick? Tock. Why?
Exactly, what do you? What does
it accomplish? Well, here, well,
it's narcissism, and people pay
attention to you and post
comments like, oh, girl,
big thing. And Tina was showing
this to me, the big thing this
holiday season, the Christmas
cheer, is a post that goes like
this. This is a really difficult
post. This is really difficult
for me to tell you. And then
it's, you know about, you know,
my mom died, my dog died, my
sister died, you know, I lost my
job. It's like, why are you
doing this? And I can only
conclude the same thing, it's
narcissism, and they thrive on
getting the you know, you're a
victim. And by the way, it's
mainly white women who have
these horrible stories, and it
always this is really difficult,
and they're crying, but I think
that just they they don't have
any victim cards, so they need
to be a victim by something
horrible. And you know what
horrible things happened in your
life? It happens you.
But they need to put it on tick
tock, or on reels or x these
days, everything has the same
video scrolling behavior, and it
has something to do with very,
very deep narcissistic behavior.
I
think you can blame the phones.
Since you mentioned women, I do
have the same thing only as a
guy, uh huh. And of course, you
can visualize what this guy
looks like. Do I need to
visualize him? Does there's
always this kind of piggy like
face and all these people, the
women and the men, but this guy,
this is the dude who's done
crying. Oh gosh, okay, dude, I'm
done crying. My sadness is over.
My anger has set in.
I am a very petty person, and I
am very proud of that little bit
about myself, actually. And so I
say this in the most
disrespectful way possible. I
don't care if you are my family,
I don't care if you're my
friend. I don't care if we've
been friends our entire lives,
you can literally go fuck
yourself if you voted for Donald
Trump, if you are so sad about
your groceries being expensive,
get a better fucking paying job.
Do better in life, get a fucking
education. Do something because
you're fucking stupid, and I
hope you go jump off of a
fucking bridge. Okay, we need
warnings for these clips because
kids listen to show with their
parents, and it's all, I don't
care. I yeah, you're, you know,
nailed it with the NAR. It's all
narcissistic, yes, and it's
pathetic. All right, let's play
the logged in girl. Because I
saw this one, I thought this was
pretty okay now that now, now we
switch gears. I liked her. I
like so there. That's funny. You
saw it, yeah. So we switched
gears here. Instead of bitching
and moaning about Trump Yes, or
or having to disown your parents
because the way they voted,
because you, you know you, they
have to vote the way you want.
This is a form of this is the
same. This is also, I think,
narcissistic, but it's but the
target is different. And it's
actually quite funny. I am so
tired of logging into things.
I'm
tired of it. I can't believe I'm
gonna have to log into things
for the rest of my life. Just
let me see my things. My things
are right there. Just be logged
in. Could we just be logged in
for once? And don't, don't get
me started on the Keep me logged
in check box. Okay, this is the
closed elevator doors button all
over again. I know bullshit when
I smell it. If I ever see the
person that programmed that
little Jack box, it is
absolutely on site. I just want
to be logged and all you cyber
security people that told them,
that told the websites that we
need to be changing our
passwords every five minutes.
You're next. I don't care if
that makes me safer, I will go
ahead hack my shit. You're gonna
hate what you find. Okay, I just
would rather be logged in, and
if one of you smart ass little
punks comes into my comments and
tells V I should be using a
password manager that, oh, the
keychain will fix all of this.
Okay, I wish Bucha this can't be
the future. Oh,
I liked her. I liked her.
Yes, that was pretty good. Okay,
we finished with that. The keep
me logged in box is kind of a
hoax after grade. That thing
rarely works for me either.
It works once in a while. Yeah,
people don't. It's the closed
elevator door button, which is
usually not hooked to anything
exactly I'm gonna show my school
by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be
fun.
We do have some meetup reports
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I disconnected. I didn't even
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You two dudes created the best
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Very nice to hear lovely that
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Year's is Monday, Monday,
no. New Year's Eve is Tuesday,
Tuesday. Well, these guys are
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into New Year's Eve Eve.
You're You're confusing the
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Eagan, Minnesota. Oh, that's
Steve bien and stra he's the
he's our pilot. Go to hang out
with him. He has lots of cool
stories also coming up in the
new year, Raleigh, North
Carolina, Colorado Springs. We
have Ronan Park, California,
Yukon, Oklahoma, Baton Rouge,
Louisiana, Cincinnati, Ohio,
Eagle, Idaho, Keene, New
Hampshire, South slogan, British
Columbia, Scandinavia,
Charlotte, North Carolina. Tri
Cities, Washington, adventura,
Florida, Rockville, Maryland. I
used to live in rockville or
near rockville, Albany
California. Hey, John, February
1, Albany, Albany California.
That's near you. You should go.
Are you going? Huh? You go? Oh
yeah, I'll be there. Cool. 23rd
Orlando, Florida. This is
February. Then March st,
Petersburg, Florida, safe and in
the Netherlands. March 29 may
18, wow. Go to no agenda
meetups.com and get the full
list of every single no agenda
meetup that's taking place.
These are producer organized.
It's like Ted.
Walks only a lot cooler and you
can get drunk. No agenda,
meetups.com. If you can find one
near you, start one yourself.
Sometimes you want to go hang
out with all the nights and
days.
Feels the same.
It's like a party. And
at this moment in the show, we
like to select the ISO that
we'll be using to close out the
show. Once again, I'm falling
down on the job, doing very
poorly with my with my ISOs, but
I do have one, just one from an
earlier clip we played no no and
double No.
That's really all I've got.
That's not always pathetic. I
got better ones. It's pathetic.
Well, I know you got better
ones. You can. I have one that I
took the original and then I
edited it so it'd be shorter.
Oh, okay, but I have two
versions of the same clip. Okay,
all right. And so it's one and
two. Is this show over one?
Merry Christmas Happy, Hanukkah
happy, New Years, the show is
over. It's too long. It won't
fit in this five seconds. It
won't fit in the outro. When I
have it down as four seconds,
well, let's speed it up. Okay,
Merry Christmas Happy, Hanukkah
happy, New Years, the show is
over. Okay,
it's a contender.
I'll take it,
yeah. And what else? Two
seconds, yeah, that'll do.
That'll do. Okay, let's try
these other two and see if
they're better. I got done, yep,
okay, we are done. Not bad. And
then overall, ready? No, it
can't be over already. No, I
think Merry Christmas. Happy,
Hanukkah happy. New Years, the
show is over. I think that's the
winner. And now, ladies and
gentlemen, time for the top of
the show. John's Tip of the Day.
Sometimes battle. Sometimes
Adam, which is part of the tip
of the day, seems a new segment
is the complaining about the
previous tip of the day
discussion. Oh, who does this?
Who's I do, I guess. But who's
complaining? Who's complaining?
Who's Oh, well, we have, we have
Puerto Rican listeners, ah, and
they're complainers, hey, oh
yeah, yeah, they're complaining
about a lot of stuff the Puerto
Ricans complained this note is
kind of interesting. This came
from one of the complainers,
Carlos, and he complains about
the Carlos the complainer, huh?
Carlos the complainer? Yes. His
last name starts with c2 so it's
going to be very good. Carlos,
the complainer, uh, talks about
Adobe. Goy, Goya, Adobe, the
seasoning is Puerto Rican in
origin. And it should be
mentioned, it's Puerto Rican and
and he went on and on. He him
and two other guys have mostly
complained bitterly and but
Carlos, I think, is the one who
said, Mexican foods no good.
It's tasteless, and all they do
is put hot sauce on everything
and and of course, then another
guy from Puerto Rico says, Well,
you know the problem with the
Goya Adobo,
I said to everybody that just
giving a tip for a spice. I
don't care the details here, but
Okay, all right. So they go on
and on about they should be not
crediting Puerto Rico. But in
this note, he said, I went back
and forth with Carlos more than
once. And he said
he talked about the adobo, then
he said on a different issue,
you can call the company
American. He's talking about the
company started in Puerto Rico,
or supposedly, or the guy came
from Puerto Rico. It's a New
York company. I'm part of a
majority of the people of Puerto
Rico who want to become a state
of the USA. Yeah, in Puerto
Rico, we are born American
citizens. We have the same
passport as you do in the
States, and there is no such
thing as Puerto Rican
citizenship. That's correct. We
are subjected to the same
federal laws and have federal
courts here. The main difference
is that we don't pay federal
taxes. Yes, that's it, which is
attractive to millionaires of
the states that more that come
here more to avoid paying
federal income taxes and receive
excellent benefits of not paying
or just paying a low local
income tax. Another issue is
that we can't vote in the
presidential elections, but we
can vote in the primaries of the
GOP and the DMC. Yes. Our DNC,
we don't vote in the election of
the Commander in Chief, but we
serve in the armed forces. Yes.
So the thing is, now see, so if
you want to become a state, but
you don't have to right now. You
don't pay federal income tax.
What are you complaining about?
Shut up already so you could
vote for the president. That's a
swap I'd make. You got a good
deal, as far as I'm concerned.
So I now the end appeal, of
course, doesn't start new
thread, yes, but Carlos is of
the group.
Wants to become a state. And I
think, Well, I think you said, I
admire our Puerto Rican
listeners. I guess there's quite
a few of them, yeah, because if
three of them wrote in, that
means there's at least 300 that
probably Yeah, agree, and we'll
let you in if you pay taxes and
back taxes.
I think it got a good deal
going. But I know a lot of
people who went to Puerto Rico
during COVID, and they stayed,
they never came back. They loved
it. Yes, it's supposed to be
gorgeous. A lot of trash. I
hear, yeah, garbage. They can't
seem to figure out what to do
with it. They don't have a
federal garbage pickup. Anyway,
we love you guys. We love you
guys. So this week's tip is from
nail tech. It's the nail
bandage, instant nail bandage.
Whoa, got it? Redundant. Name is
it? If get it, Amazon is six
bucks and 30 cents, which is
screwball price, but so you
crack a nail. Now, Mimi has her
own way of doing this, but I
these things work great. You're
cracking nail, which I did
because I opening a can of the
liquid death, I might add,
I cracked the nail and the on
the can, and so I it wishes a
pain in the ass, because you got
the catches on everything. You
know what I'm talking about. And
so you put these little, it's a
little piece of plastics very
they're hard to get off their
packaging, and some screwy
product, but you get this little
piece of plastic and put it over
the nail, and it can't see it.
It's completely invisible, but
it covers up the it seals the
little the crack of the nail.
And I recommend this highly.
Now, Mimi has a she told me this
is crap. And what she likes to
do is, you got a crack nail, you
put super glue, yes, super glue
on the gun the nail, and then
you coat it with clear nail
polish. And if it's a real bad
crack, you can put a very thin
piece of fiberglass over your
nails and do the same thing,
glue it on. And I'm thinking, I
don't think so. These little
patches are great. They work
fine. So that's my tip once
again. What are they called?
What is this called? This nail
bandage? It's available on
Amazon by nail tech Tek. I have
a tip of the day request
I had for the longest time, and
I think I bought it on an
airplane, and I can't find it
anymore. I had a scale that you
use to weigh your baggage.
So you put, you hold it in your
hand, and that has the little,
the little digital readout, and
then you clip it onto you hook
it onto your luggage handle, and
it tells you exactly how much
your luggage weighs, which is
handy, particularly with, you
know, I don't want to be that
guy who's unpacking his suitcase
at check in, and I can't, for
the life of me, find them
anymore. Wow, I'd never heard of
such a thing, but it's a great
idea for a product and be very
easy to make nowadays with the
digital Uh, yes, that, that
dude's weighing Yeah, yes, I
would love Sure. There's
something out there that do the
trick, and one of our listeners
and producers will give us the
answer to that. I should mention
one of my experiences in playing
around in Europe. It went like
this. So I go into the
your bags are two pounds
overweight, yeah. And I said,
Oh, what's that going to cost?
Well, you know, they had to
fish. It's going to cost 2530
bucks. And so hold on a second.
So I unzipped the bag, I took
the two pound laptop out and
stuck it under my arm, zipped
the bag back up, put it through
the scale, and so, okay, you're
good to go. So then I took the
bag off, put the laptop back in
and checked it
these days, you can't even pay
extra for overweight it's a
workman's comp thing. You cannot
do that.
It's like it's if it's over 50
pounds, you're screwed. You got
to take it out. And you can't.
They will not check your bag.
Well, there's always work
around. Don't over pack. There
you go. There you go. And that's
your tip of the day, everybody.
Thank you very much for
listening. Tip of the day.net.
Creative master, and sometimes
Adam, he still hasn't called me.
I'm a little irked about it.
I'll tell him to call you. Yeah,
well, he sent me, shoot me an
email, send me a email, send me
a DM. DM will work slide into my
DMs burnetti
And that can or on that Twitter
or on X, X, he's always DMing me
on x.
He doesn't, I don't think he
uses X much. I think he goes
there once a month.
Well,
it's been a month.
We did everything he asked. Hall
is typical Hollywood do this for
me, typical, typical Hollywood
arrogance. Yeah,
that concludes our broadcast
day. Sunday, I will be coming to
you back from the Texas Hill
Country, excited to be back,
excited to see my dog again, for
sure. End of show. Mix is coming
up from D's laughs And Joseph
Grillo, who did a great hot
Luigi mix and up next on no
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apps and trollroom.io even
though they were they were very
mean to me on Noster, sir
Spencer and dame de lurian With
bowl after bowl.
See, I forgive. I can forgive
coming to you from 15 feet below
sea level here in stipple,
Amsterdam, the Netherlands, in
the morning, everybody. I'm Adam
Curry, and from Northern Silicon
Valley, where the weather is
mixed, I'm John C Dvorak.
Remember us at no agenda
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hooey inside. And I understand
why you believe crazy things,
and I understand why you think
crazy things. I'm the same way.
Derek Burch, do you remember if
he has a moniker and Matty J
D's, what's the next thing
they're gonna fear monger? Or
not? The virus, climate change,
a world hunger they pass in now,
billions in every direction, not
a TV show, but we divided by
intersection. Marvin F in 71
what's going on? Finishing the
year in 22 where did we go
wrong? Pay attention to
everything. The truth reveals
itself. Is what mol fact said, I
say it to myself. Methaman, you
said, Hey, release your Delf,
it's Christmas time. I'm always
moving like the elf on the
shelf, but I don't play these
childish games. Only one I play
is with my nephews. I caught up
all my childish games. Forgot
about the guitars, like Eddie
Hazel Funkadelic is funky, not
fresh, like homegrown basil. Two
other producers, thank you for
the three keys, time, talent and
treasure. I think we all agree.
John C Dvorak and my man Adam
Curry hosts the best podcast
going into 2023
value for value, international
lifestyle, twice a week. Yo. We
love it all the while you put a
number meaningful to you. Just
don't Nate, don't be a shape
shifting. You know, who
shout out, Matty J for the
instrumental. We going, man up.
I don't know, but it was, I
mean, it was one of the more
serious way back in the day.
This one now is probably, he
probably got the same one that I
got like a month ago, which I'm
not vaccinable. I got the
Johnson. I got the ghetto
vaccine. And, you know, I got
the Johnson Johnson right when
it was first available, which
that that was probably just like
syrup, first Pearl, I know,
something like that.
This Ivy League hottie
named Luigi. It's a Robin
Hood that we never knew that we
needed. Honestly, it's
beautiful, and I agree with him.
The children have a brand new
star. His name is Luigi, the
cutest little hottie. All the
boys think that he's sweet. He
shot a CEO right in the back out
on the street and rode a city
bike into the park. So
naturally, oh, Jing it, I did
hot. Luigi the killer,
Italian Christmas killer,
because this is like regular,
everyday
person. Our hero, Luigi wore a
mask to hide his killer,
Hollywood face. He made a big
mistake asking the server for a
day a camera caught in clear
state, he let his mask come
down. There was hot Luigi eating
the crispy Mac hash brown
Italian
Christmas. Italian Christmas
killer.
I listened to Luigi as manifesto
this morning three times, and I
cried, honestly. It's beautiful,
and I agree with him. Whoa, the
radicals love Luigi. He's really
quite the ham. He gained a
million followers on x and
Instagram now all the normal
people hope he gets what he
deserves. Let's hope they grow
the book at him a lifetime, he
will serve Louisiana killer King
and edging
the Italian Christmas killers.
Initial 827,
followers. On Instagram grew
exponentially Monday, as we
watched by three o'clock, more
than 32,000 an hour later,
53,000
by five o'clock Monday, more
than 71,000
Hey, Luigi, where you going with
that gun in your hand? Take.
The gun leave the
cannolis.org/n.
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Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah,
happy new years, the show is
over. You.