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The cell phone is the Satan's tool.
Adam Curry, John C.
Devorah.
It's Sunday, November 30th, 2025.
This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media
Assassination Episode 1821.
This is no agenda.
We are not stupid.
And we're broadcasting live from the heart of
the Texas Hill Country here at FEMA Region
Number 6.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And we're in the Silicon Valley where we're
expecting the blue wave of doom.
I'm John C.
Devorah.
Yeah, yeah.
Because we know that all their ops are
working really well.
The blue wave of doom.
Is that a Democrat thing?
Well, blue wave is not the doom part.
I added that.
The way I would see it is the
blue wave would be doom.
Doom, I tell you.
Doom.
Doom.
Hey, how was your Thanksgiving?
How was your Thanksgiving?
It was good.
Okay, did you actually celebrate yet?
Yeah, no, we ate.
Everyone's eating their foods.
I got a nice small nine-pound bird.
Smoked it in the Masterbuilt.
Masterbuilt?
Yeah, the smoker.
It's one of the tips of the day.
Your Masterbuilt?
Well, you should have given that before Thanksgiving.
I'm sorry?
No, it was a tip of the day
from a year ago.
Because today you're going to do a knife,
right?
Tell me you're going to do a knife.
No, the knife's not.
I'm not ready for the knife.
Well, it's a tease.
We got the knife is coming.
The knife is coming.
Yes, the knife is coming.
It's very good.
Very good.
And it was a small bird and it
was a heritage.
It was brined and it didn't taste like
turkey.
What did it taste like?
It tastes like pheasant.
It tastes like pheasant.
That's what good turkey tastes like.
Which I hear pheasant tastes a lot like
peacock.
I don't know.
I've never had peacock, curiously.
Peacock is good.
Well, Black Friday, it's not what it used
to be.
We used to be fighting and rioting over
boxes filled with large screen TV sets.
My, how things have changed.
Black Friday promotion turned sour as shoppers waited
hours for the cross mac and cheese Mac
Friday 65-inch box, only to see it
vanish within seconds.
The TV size deal packed 65 boxes for
just $19.37. But most fans woke up
disappointed with carts emptied and supply gone before
checkout.
Chaos and anger erupted online.
Some call it a clever marketing stunt.
Others, pure frustration.
Did you see this?
I'm completely unfamiliar with this.
So it's news to me.
Oh, so it was a 65-inch box,
kind of like what your TV would come
in, filled with mac and cheese.
Okay.
And people were fighting over it because that's
the thing.
We don't fight.
We used to fight over television.
And I totally believe this happened.
Hey, while we're on the topic, who will
be the first?
Man, you are really cutting through the noise.
Are your speakers louder today than normal?
I'm going to turn them down, whatever.
Yes, a little bit.
Who will be?
Oh, man, it's just crazy.
It's way down.
I can barely hear you.
Let me see.
Am I doing the right one?
Hold on.
Yeah, that's weird.
I'll cut all that out.
Don't worry.
Who's the...
Goodness gracious, John.
It's like I keep cutting through the noise
gate.
I can't turn it down much more.
I can barely hear you myself.
I don't know how it's getting through.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't understand either.
Anyway.
Maybe my mic's going bad.
Who will be the first to have the
secret Santa that pays off everybody's layaway this
year?
Oh, I forgot about that story.
No, it happens every year.
No, it does.
It's a standard every year.
We have the bogus story, and it turns
up in every local news station, some guy.
And then you first have the crying, weeping
shopper outside the store who just discovered that
her bills were paid from the local real
estate developer.
Yeah, it used to be a national thing.
It's really moved more towards the local, and
you're right, it's always the local real estate
person who, oh yeah, someone paid it off.
Although sometimes it's actual secret Santa, and then
it's just a promotion for Walmart.
It has to be a promotion.
Oh, that's right.
I forgot that part of the formula.
Of course.
Yes.
It always happens at Walmart, so therefore you
should go there to shop because you just
might get it for free.
Yeah, hello.
That's the way to go.
Of course.
Of course.
It's beautiful, and we love that.
And I'm just stunned that no other retailer
has figured this out.
Well, it hasn't happened yet.
Oh, it will.
I've got all my filters.
We did have an op from the, what
did you call it, the blue wave of
doom?
Yeah, the blue wave of doom.
The blue wave of doom pulled an op.
I don't think it worked very well.
The op is Wabbit.
Wabbit, acronym for We Ain't Buying It.
So this time of year, right after Thanksgiving,
is usually a layup for big retail companies.
But this year has not been business as
usual.
Activists are upset that corporations are not speaking
out against policies promoted by the Trump administration.
And so now they want their money to
talk, like the No King's Protest or the
Target Fest.
The branding for this pressure campaign is We
Ain't Buying It.
Organizers want you to pull back from spending
money at Target and Home Depot and Amazon.
Now, in a press release, they say the
companies have caved to Donald Trump's bigoted and
anti-democratic attacks on our communities and our
values, from cravenly abandoning their commitments to diversity,
equity and inclusion, to enabling the terrorizing of
our communities.
Corporate collaboration must stop.
Now, the boycott puts another bullseye on Target.
A retailer has been open about seeing the
bottom line be impacted by this previous boycott
after dropping DEI initiatives.
But is the holiday timing a game changer?
Latasha Brown is co-founder of Black Voters
Matter.
That's one of the groups leading this We
Ain't Buying It effort.
OK, hold on for a second.
Black Voters Matter.
Go to their website.
Hit the donate button.
ActBlue.
ActBlue, of course.
ActBlue.
So this is just another political action.
Stunt.
Caged in like, We Ain't Buying It.
And the reason why?
Well, we hate Trump.
Latasha, welcome back to the show.
Let me start here.
So we know about the reason behind the
Target focus.
By the way, stop.
Where'd you get this clip?
CNN.
What did you think?
I don't know.
I was wondering.
It sounded like the Black News Network.
Why you're also focusing on Home Depot?
There is no Black News Network.
Yeah, there is.
I listen to it all the time.
I have it local.
It's fantastic, actually.
Oh, really?
Yeah, it's really good.
It's better than the typical news around that
you get from the white news networks.
About the reason.
So this is not CNN.
It's the white news network.
OK, we'll keep it like that for now
on.
Sitting behind the Target focus.
Tell me about why you're also focusing on
Home Depot and Amazon.
Well, now remember, this is for people that
we ain't buying it.
We ain't buying it.
I might have to get a two by
four.
No, you can't buy it.
You can't buy it because Trump.
You know, when we look at Home Depot,
it's interesting.
Home Depot has actually built their businesses based
on home improvement and construction.
And they've built their business on the backs,
quite frankly, of immigrant labor and an industry
that depends on immigrant labor.
But what we've seen is they've actually been
colluding.
Really?
They built their business.
On the backs of immigrant labor.
Really?
Yeah.
No, obviously.
On immigrant labor.
But what we've seen is they've actually been
colluding with ICE to provide information to surveillance.
One of the groups.
Wait a minute.
Stop the clip.
So in other words.
Yes.
Before this finishes, they built their whole business
around immigrant labor.
But to shoot themselves in the head, they
decided to collude with ICE to get rid
of the immigrant labor.
So they, because they built it around immigrant
labor, can go broke.
Is that the logic here?
And go home.
I think they all just want to go
home and not buy it.
What we've seen is they've actually been colluding
with ICE to provide information to surveillance.
Any collusion?
A part of the coalition that two of
the workers that were in the store that
they called that ICE actually came in their
store and attacked while they were in there.
And so Home Depot has also been capitulating.
They have aligned themselves with this administration that
is creating harm on the very people who
have helped to build this business.
Well, then they're pretty stupid.
Your point is well-made, John C.
Dvorak.
Let's see if the other two examples, if
you can find something similar.
And Amazon, what we see of Amazon is
also they've been supporting just for a tax
break.
They've been supporting this administration, providing a million
dollars for the inauguration so that they can
get tax benefits at our expense.
And what we're saying is that we expect
corporations to be accountable.
Wait a minute.
So this is about tax breaks.
That doesn't come from the administration.
That comes from your city because it doesn't
come from Donald Trump.
If you open up in New York or
in Atlanta or wherever you want, New Jersey,
wherever you want to open up, that's a
city or a state tax break, not a
federal tax break.
Am I wrong?
Prove me wrong.
She's unclear.
Accountable to the customers.
You can't align yourself with an administration that
is hurting and harming our communities.
We won't buy it.
We ain't buying it.
Now, before we get to some of the
goals of this protest, this boycott.
Vote Democrat.
Walmart rolled back their DEI.
There have been ICE missions and operations outside
of Lowe's locations.
Why these two and not the others?
Walmart.
Part of what we're asking people, and I
think what you're going to see across the
board this weekend, what you're going to see
across the board is that many of those
companies.
It doesn't sound like there's a boycott on
Walmart, which of course makes sense because Walmart
is all in with these people.
So I think she's trying to deflect here,
unless I'm misunderstanding.
They're going to see their sales be down.
What we wanted to do is to send
a message with these three companies.
One, it's measurable.
We're focused on that.
We ain't buying it.
We're not standing with any company.
These three are just the beginning.
They're not the end.
Those other companies as well, we've been asking
people to hold their money, to not support
and shop with companies that do not align
with the values that we believe that supports
our communities, including these other companies.
These three companies just happen to be the
companies that we decided that because of what
was happening, because we're seeing the egregious nature,
that we would focus on those three companies.
Okay, so this is their operation.
I don't think it worked.
Oh, wait.
Well, I'll give you the number.
You have the number.
U.S. shoppers spent a record $11.8
billion up 9.1. This is online alone.
Almost 10% from 20 to almost.
Yeah.
Wow.
How much up?
How many percent?
Almost 10, 9.1. Wow.
But meanwhile, the activists were definitely.
By the way, one more thing.
I thought this was called black out or
black something.
I think they hijacked it.
They hijacked it.
Like they had a consultant look at it.
I said, blackouts, no good.
How about we ain't buying it?
Yeah, that's great.
Here's 10 grand.
I think that's what happened.
Yeah.
Here is one of their activists who decided
to take another.
Another angle at we ain't buying it and
went to TikTok.
Go outside and touch some grass.
Put your music on and shake your ass.
Your human soul and bank account will both
be glad.
Yeah, and it worked.
Kind of.
Wow.
What a song.
Hey, at least it wasn't AI.
It was a real song.
You don't know that.
No, I'm pretty sure she was playing the
ukulele.
I was impressed.
I was very impressed.
Oh, yeah.
That sounds like a uke.
Yeah, like a uke.
So we did have a couple of.
Of course, we're on the ball here.
We are we're here for you as a
public service.
There was a little bit of a frenzy
with the Airbus issue.
Yeah, I have a clip.
I have a clip.
I'm happy to play your clip.
What's your clip?
I don't know.
Probably something either Airbus or 320.
Well, I'll play the Airbus 320 issue.
That could be the clip.
Yep.
On the year's busiest travel weekend, the FAA
has ordered airlines to update software in a
widely used aircraft by midnight tonight.
Airbus issued a software fix for about 6000
of its A320 family of jets after an
analysis found that solar radiation bursts may corrupt
key data needed for flight controls.
They say that's likely why a jet blue
flight suddenly lost altitude last month, sending more
than a dozen people to hospitals.
American, Delta and United all say they expect
the fix to be done quickly and with
minimal disruption.
Yeah, this was a bigger disruption over in
Europe.
It's a best selling aircraft used by commercial
airlines across the world.
Airbus has ordered immediate repairs to 6000 of
its A320s, more than half of its global
fleet due to a flight control software issue.
For safety reasons, the planes cannot fly until
repaired.
The flight system in question sends commands from
the pilot's side stick to elevators at the
rear.
It's manufactured by the French company TELUS, which
insists it's not responsible for the problem.
The incident in the Punt, the recall involved
a flight from Cancun to Newark on the
30th of October.
Several passengers were hurt after a sharp loss
of altitude, forcing the pilots to make an
emergency landing in Florida.
After analysis, Airbus claims that intense solar radiation
may have been the culprit.
We need to talk about solar storms, which
are particles emitted by explosions on the sun's
surface that project a cloud of particles and
can reach Earth in about 20 hours.
But if this happens with significant intensity, it
can disrupt computers and therefore the flight control
links to the computer give you bad information.
Repairs can be completed within a few hours
for each plane, but disruptions will vary in
length depending on the company.
So solar, huh?
X-flares, K-flares.
Do you remember a couple of weeks ago
when that solar flare hit?
Yes.
And that's the day that my, my, I
told you this.
I said that the, for some reason, the,
uh.
Oh, the knock got all confused?
No, it was the, I, the, uh, clean
feed itself.
I couldn't, it came with these weird messages.
I couldn't get on it.
And I mentioned this on the show and
you thought that was, I said it never
happened before.
And then I noticed on that same day
or over that period of time, there's people
driving weird and Mimi, Mimi noticed it.
And so did Jay.
People were, what do you mean?
What do you define driving weird?
Just like they're just, just like they're shorted
out.
They're driving just down the middle of the
street.
Those aren't people, John.
I mean, it was just a lot of
weird driving.
Those aren't people.
That's, uh, that's the drones.
That's the bot people.
Well, whatever was driving, they were doing a
poor job of it.
NPCs.
So, but I think the, uh, I think
that solar flares did something and I guess
it screwed up these airplanes.
Cause it's hit some, well, I'm in there
at first.
At first I'm like, this sounds like a
bull crap story.
It does sound like a bull crap story.
So I look into it and, uh, it
turns out that, so there's a lot of,
a lot of systems, obviously it's all fly
by wire.
And there's actually, uh, an ECC chip that's
mounted onto, uh, uh, one of the redundant
controller systems.
Are you familiar with ECC memory?
No, uh, is that, uh, no, I'm not.
Do I mean to explain it?
Maybe I am.
Well, I'm, I'm, I'm only going to read
from the definitions I looked up.
A specialized type of computer memory RAM specifically
designed to detect and correct the most common
types of internal data correction, often called soft
errors.
Uh, ECC memory works by using an extra
chip on the memory module that stores error
correction codes.
Hence ECC, also known as parody bits.
When data is written to the memory.
Yes.
They used to have this on memory, but
of course you used to have that extra
chip.
Yeah.
Back in the day when it was crap.
He stopped doing it.
So what they're claiming.
It costs an extra nickel, forget it.
So what they're claiming is that the solar
flares can actually flip a bit in the
chip.
You know, this is what I was thinking.
Not that particular exact issue, but I was
thinking that the whole thing was a shielding
problem.
Well, you would say you had this, you
had these models, these modules shielded properly.
This you'd be good to go.
I agree with you.
And what's even more interesting to me is
that this was not, you know, you know
what the change was, it was actually downgrading,
rolling back an update.
I'm like, come on, you can't tell me
that some update and they're not taking responsibility.
That's an excellent point.
What you're saying?
Well, it's possible.
I can see it.
It's possible that the old code wouldn't have
been, if that bit was flipped, it wouldn't
make any difference.
Yeah.
Well, and so you can't just, oh, it's
solar flares.
No, it's your crappy software.
Well, yeah, that's for sure.
Come on.
If you're rolling back, it's not like it
was a hardware upgrade.
Like, oh, we have to do something.
Yeah, you have to swap out the chip.
So somebody...
Although you can shield it, hello?
I would think shielding would be the, well,
maybe there's, I mean, who knows?
Who knows with this stuff?
Could just be an attack from Boeing for
all we know.
Ah, look at these guys.
Let's screw them up.
I had no idea until this report came
out that the 320 was the number one
airplane in the world.
I didn't know that they...
I also don't know if that's true.
Well, every report said it.
Oh, that's an interesting question.
It's the most popular passenger plane in the
world, period, according to everybody.
Well, it's possible.
I mean, I'd say the 737 rivals...
That's what I was thinking.
737 went, you know, but that's not what...
They kept reporting it.
Nobody was saying no.
Well, but, you know, no one looks into
these things anymore.
They're not even calling it a glitch often.
Just like, hey, it's just what happens, you
know.
And Friday, it was kind of the same
on the stock markets or specifically the future
markets.
Another centralization problem.
We continue to follow the outage at the
CME that has halted trading in stock index
futures and other contracts.
That was caused by a cooling issue at
the CME's data center.
However, services are gradually being restored and treasuries,
commodities and metals are said to be trading
normally at this point.
You can kind of see the moves in
the pound, the dollar, the euro.
Stock index futures are still halted, though.
We will keep you updated on when those
might be restored.
But again, it's been hours at this point.
We are continuing to watch and we'll let
you know as soon as those stock futures
begin to trade properly as well.
I always wonder when you have an outage
like that, Forex futures, like what's going on
in the background?
How can someone take advantage of that?
And it was a cooler ways, I'm sure
it's completely centralized in one data center and
cooling brings it all down.
I mean, this is, you know, we're going
to see more and more of this.
Thank God for podcasting being decentralized because we're
just going to see more and more and
more and more of this.
More things.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
AWS, CloudFlare, you know, Azure.
There's only three or four big players.
So this is not good.
In this case, I have to say I
got a promotion, promotion from Elon Musk from
his, what's his, what's his satellite thing called
again?
I have Starlink.
So for five dollars a month in deactivated
state, they sent they're going to send me
a Starlink mini.
Which I think is pretty cool.
Yeah.
But what's what's don't you have Starlink already?
Yeah.
But this is so, you know, you put
this in your go bag.
So if if it all for five bucks
a month, you can have a little device
in your go bag.
And so when you go after when the
grid goes down, you can get out of
there and you can have a little thing
and you can and then you can stay
in touch.
I put it right next to my ammo
where it belongs.
Yeah.
And what was it?
A jug of water.
What's the things that we have in there?
Flashlight, flashlight, flashlight, a grinding flashlight.
The candidate has a grinder on the side.
Yeah, a grinder or as we call it
in the old country, a knife cut.
Get one of those.
And you need a radio that you power
by winding it.
Yeah.
That's the same like the flashlight.
It is pretty.
It lasts for about five seconds.
Yeah.
So I got a last go bag.
Actually, I got one more.
I mean, earthquake country.
And you think I would need a go
bag because, you know, if you have it
or, you know, I grabbed the gold bag,
which is a gold bag.
There should be.
We should probably have the knowledge.
No, it's going to go back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It has to have a couple of pairs
of underwear for starters.
Some mac and cheese.
Probably a shirt.
It's going to be bigger than it's going
to be more like a like a garment
bag.
If you're going to go, you might as
well bring a garment bag with you.
It's got a bunch of clothes in it.
You're nailing it.
This is a great promotion.
They're talking about a little bitty bag with
a couple of items and screw that.
Go have a garment bag loaded in the
gills with stuff.
Throw it in the car and get out
of there.
A garment bag.
Yeah, it should be a garment bag.
No, it shouldn't be a garment bag.
We need a different.
We need a proper no agenda go bag.
We should at least have the contents.
Wind up, we should have it.
It should be a no agenda go bag
in a theoretical.
So it doesn't have to be sell it.
No, no, no.
We'll throw in some gigawatt coffee because, you
know, when you're on the go, you need
some coffee.
We'll throw in a voucher for a resume
from Linda Lou.
Because, you know, because when you're on the
go, you're going to need a job.
You're going to need a job.
So you need a resume.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah, it's perfect.
We got you covered, people.
No worries.
No worries at all.
So there's a lot of different things.
I mean, we have this DC shooter, which
is part of a bigger op.
But I think we should leave that for
just a second.
Let's do Ukraine because there's some movement.
I have some Ukraine stuff that are good
intro stuff.
You probably have some deeper analysis.
I'm hoping you do.
I got three clubs.
I got the Ukraine update.
OK, let's hit that.
Russia carried out drone and missile strikes on
Ukraine's capital overnight.
Authorities say two people were killed and at
least seven were wounded.
The attacks come as the White House continues
to make a new diplomatic push to end
the conflict.
NPR's Charles Mains reports from Moscow.
The Kremlin says the U.S. has now
provided a document outlining the main parameters of
its peace proposal, one amended with input from
Ukraine and Europe after an earlier version was
criticized as heavily tilted in Moscow's favor.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has suggested the plan
could still be the basis of a settlement,
but only if Ukraine is the one to
make key concessions, among them a demand to
surrender territory claimed but not controlled by Russia
after more than three years of fighting.
The topic is sure to come up when
Ukrainian negotiators meet with White House envoy Steve
Whitkoff and other administration officials this weekend in
Florida.
Whitkoff then heads to Russia for talks with
Putin in the coming days.
What I find interesting is that everybody, every
report around the world is they're meeting in
Florida.
They're meeting in Florida.
Why don't they just say they're meeting at
Mar-a-Lago?
I presume that's where the meeting is going
to take place.
Ah, you're presuming.
They could be meeting at Disney World.
You don't know.
Now, regarding, well, you look that up, regarding
this, the strikes on Kiev, there was 10
hours of drones and missiles and they killed
two?
I guess.
Wait, you're going to bomb a major city,
a metropolitan city, and you're going to bomb
it for 10 hours solid with missiles and
drones and two people dead.
This makes no sense to me.
Well, they're not very effective.
All right, well, that's why you're looking up
the Mar-a-Lago thing.
Well, can I just say that, I don't
know how old that report was.
Was that from Friday?
Yesterday.
Well, that's interesting because the Russian attack was
a counterattack for the Sea Drones.
Did you know about this?
The Sea Drones were launched from Kiev?
No.
Well, here, listen.
Now, the latest on the war in Ukraine,
Ukraine's intelligence service releasing dramatic images showing its
attack on two sanctioned Russian oil tankers off
Turkey's coast.
ABC's Patrick Rievel is in Ukraine with the
latest.
Russia overnight heavily bombed Kiev once again with
hundreds of drones and missiles, but Ukraine also
hitting back in a new way.
Its SBU intelligence service today releasing dramatic video
showing Sea Drones hitting two Russian tankers near
Turkey that the Kremlin allegedly has been using
to smuggle oil.
It comes as a Ukrainian delegation is expected
to arrive tonight in Florida for talks tomorrow
on the Trump administration's new peace plan.
They will meet with Secretary of State Marco
Rubio, as well as President Trump's son-in
-law Jared Kushner and his envoy Steve Whitkoff.
The delegation was due to be led by
President Zelensky's chief of staff, Andrew Yermak, but
he was forced to resign yesterday amid a
corruption scandal.
Zelensky under huge pressure.
Now, Whitkoff is due to visit Moscow next
week to present the plan to Vladimir Putin,
but Putin has already signaled that he won't
compromise, saying that it's pointless to sign anything
with Zelensky.
So they launched drones, Ukraine launched Sea Drones.
Yeah, those are boat drones.
Near Turkey.
Yeah, and by the way, I think it
was irresponsible.
That's not very environmentally friendly to blow up
a tanker full of oil.
Very ungreen.
It had to cause a lot of pollution.
Very not green of them.
Probably killed a lot of fish.
I just find it highly unlikely that those
little boat drones, I mean, where were they
launched from?
They weren't launched from, obviously not from Kiev.
A vague report.
Well, and the end of that report had
a little bit about the corruption, which is
these two clips, the last ones I have.
And these are WTF clips, which means that
they don't make sense.
Negotiations.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm doing my own clip.
You should be sorry.
I am.
Ready?
Negotiations to end Russia's war against Ukraine will
continue in Florida this weekend as a Ukrainian
delegation arrives to negotiate with the Trump administration.
Joining us now with the latest is NPR's
Eleanor Beardsley in Kiev.
Hi, Eleanor.
Hi, Miles.
So these negotiations won't include a top Ukrainian
negotiator who resigned yesterday.
Can you tell us about him?
Well, his name is Andrei Yermak, and he
is Zelensky's chief of staff and right hand
man.
They go way back to Zelensky's TV days
before he was elected president of Ukraine in
2019.
Yermak is a film producer and a former
business partner of Zelensky.
And they've also worked closely together and even
lived together in the fortified government compound in
Kiev since the full scale invasion.
Yermak is not well liked by Ukrainians who
say he's amassed too much power and was
not the person they voted for.
Analysts tell me American and European allies didn't
appreciate him either.
Anyway, he got caught up in the corruption
scandal that broke in mid-November involving at
least eight people who are now under investigation,
several close to Zelensky, who are suspected of
siphoning off more than $100 million from the
state nuclear power agency.
And this at a time when Ukrainians are
fighting a war and hunkering down under daily
power cuts.
Investigators searched his house Friday morning.
And Friday night, Zelensky spoke and said he
had accepted Yermak's resignation in his video address
to the nation.
Let's listen.
He says, for our internal strength, there should
be no reason to be distracted by anything
other than the defense of Ukraine.
And he went on to say Russia really
wants Ukraine to make mistakes and we will
make no mistakes.
But negotiations are ongoing to end this war
with Russia.
How is the scandal going to impact that?
Well, some say it's made Ukraine more vulnerable
and weakens Zelensky.
But today I spoke with 30-year-old
Dmytro Kotiatensky.
He's a young anti-corruption activist.
And he says this investigation and Yermak's resignation
doesn't show Ukraine is corrupt, just the opposite.
Zelensky just lost his main guy.
He's on record saying, well, if he's not
with me in the eyes, I'm not here.
This is his.
Yeah, he did say that.
He got abandoned.
I think this guy extracted himself.
It's not like he got arrested.
No, I just resigned.
And he's gone.
And he's gone.
Yeah, to one of the many houses he
probably has around the world.
Yeah.
And I like the idea that, hey, there's
no corruption.
Getting caught proves there's no corruption.
What kind of logic is that?
I think what they're probably saying is it
proves that they're getting rid of corruption.
We're getting ready for the EU.
No, no.
This guy, this guy was either pulled out
or saw it all.
I mean, Zelensky is naked now.
I think he's complete because we just have
to remember.
Well, he has to be because the public
in Ukraine say that this other guy is
too powerful.
They didn't vote for him, meaning he's running
the show.
Yeah, of course he was running the show.
Zelensky, just to reiterate, was an actor playing
a popular, playing an actor who by popularity
was voted to become president of Ukraine.
And then it happened.
And it was produced and directed by that
guy.
He's now gone.
Exactly.
So when that guy's gone, you know, it's
like the crew just went home, dude.
Like shut the lights off when you leave
the studio.
I think this is over for him.
What's your what's the second clip here?
It's just a follow up.
It shows Ukraine can independently investigate and expose
corruption, something Russia, he says, could never do.
Here he is.
For me, it's incredible that during a full
scale war, they didn't drift to our democracy
and we are still a democratic country with
clear European values.
And can you tell us the latest on
the amended peace plan that negotiators are working
from?
Well, this is the amended plan after Ukraine
and the Europeans weighed in on what was
a very pro-Russian plan presented last week
by White House envoy Steve Whitkoff.
Zelensky has endorsed this one.
But while Russian President Vladimir Putin has suggested
the plan could still be the basis of
a settlement, he said Russia would only stop
its war if Ukraine leaves territory it's currently
occupying.
And he was referring to parts of Ukraine's
eastern Donbass region that Russia has not been
able to take in nearly four years of
fighting.
Putin said if Ukraine doesn't leave, Russia will
take the land by force anyway.
And Ukrainians don't think Putin will stop.
And it's easy to understand why, Miles.
The Kremlin continues to attack Ukrainian cities.
Just last night, there was a massive combined
attack of drones and missiles on Kiev.
It went on for 10 hours.
Two people were killed.
Dozens injured.
Yeah, dozens.
I thought it was two.
I thought it was two.
Two killed.
Dozens injured.
After 10 hours of attacks.
OK, very effective.
All right.
So Zelensky is naked.
His guy's no longer with him.
The studio is empty.
The grips have left.
All of the costumes and all the wardrobe,
gone.
Wardrobe and makeup is gone.
He's going to have to do selfies.
Here's a report from, this is from, I
think it might be Euronews.
Tough speaker, but just get into it and
just let your mind hear what she's saying.
Because this is, and Euronews, as I said,
EU not wanting any of this.
They don't want any deal.
They want to keep the war going, including
the, let me see.
Hey, listen to this.
Just, you have to get into it.
A new delegation chief for high-stakes talks.
No, this is not the bad one.
This is the good one.
Security Council Secretary Rustem Yumurov is now leading
the Ukrainian team heading to the US for
discussions on a peace deal that Washington is
aiming to broker between Kiev and Moscow.
It comes after the resignation of Andrei.
Hold on.
This is the wrong way around.
I want this one.
This is the one where they get the
French guy in here.
A new delegation chief for high- It's
the same clip.
What is that?
Oh, you screwed it up.
Let me see if the French guy's in
here.
The Ukrainian delegation has the necessary directives.
Others, however, are more skeptical, including this former
diplomat.
President Vladimir Putin has already said several times
that he doesn't want to sign any agreement
whatsoever, whether it's a ceasefire, a peace agreement
or any other kind of agreement.
We are far from reaching any kind of
agreement.
He doesn't want to sign with Zelensky because
he considers him illegitimate.
After meeting the Ukrainian officials, Wyckoff is due
to travel to Russia next week to meet
with President Vladimir Putin.
Over in Europe, President Emmanuel Macron will hold
discussions with Zelensky in Paris on Monday.
According to the French presidency, the two leaders
will talk about the conditions for a just
and lasting peace.
All right, so the problem that still remains,
and we'll get to the solutions that are
on the table in a minute, with our
boy, Rassoulis.
I got a two-parter from him.
Hey, he's good.
He knows what he's doing.
Hopefully, he doesn't ask for commissions.
No, this may be the tough speaker.
This is about the money.
And I'm sure you didn't, no one heard
about it.
But yeah, really, if you looked really hard,
you could follow that the European Commission, i
.e. Queen Ursula, wants to take the money,
the Russian money.
All right, we've talked about this over and
over.
We talked about in the last show.
Yes, they want to basically ruin the world
financial system.
Maybe they're going to buy it this way.
Look, Swift's going to get submarine anyway by
stablecoin if that works.
Yeah.
So let's get the money and then hell
with it.
Well, it's only like 300 billion.
I mean, it's a lot to blow up
the city.
Yeah, but it's 300 billion.
So they are, they're just incessant.
We need this money.
And Brussels, where Euroclear is, that's where the
actual money is.
And when I say actual money, I guess
it's just some data.
I don't know if Euroclear holds gold or
I don't know what real money this is.
Which reminds me.
Yes.
Where's their Fort Knox people that are supposed
to go in with the cameras?
Since Trump got elected, they were talking about
it.
What happens when you're here and there's nobody
going in there?
Where's my live stream?
And Brussels sent a stern letter and said,
no, no, we don't want that because they
know that they're going to have a target
on their backs if they all of a
sudden give up this money.
So like, no, you can't do that.
Here's the report.
This may be the tough lady.
It's tough to hear.
In an interview with Euronews on the morning
show Europe Today, EU ambassador to Ukraine, Katarina
Maternova, called on the EU to move forward
with the Russian frozen assets debate.
If seized, the assets could secure 140 billion
euros reparations loan to Ukraine to fund its
war effort.
Very important is to move on the Russian
frozen assets.
That's what the commission presented as the three
potential avenues, how to secure money for Ukraine,
which would send an important signal not only
to Ukraine, but to Russia as well, that
Europe will stay with Ukraine.
These people are delusional.
Oh, it'll send a message.
All right.
So it sends an important message to the
people.
Are you kidding me?
The message that knows our money is that
no one can trust you.
Ultimately, it is the Belgian government that holds
the key as the host country of the
assets depository Euroclear.
It has, however, yet to give the green
light.
Belgian Prime Minister Badewever sent a strongly worded
letter to the European Commission on Thursday night,
saying the reparations loan is fundamentally wrong and
that he remains unequivocally clear about the dangers
diplomatic.
I think they do this voice on purpose
so we can't understand what's going on.
You know, it's not that you can't hear
the words.
It's the cadence.
It's horrible.
It's some weird cadence that's almost impossible to
pick up on.
I mean, the individual words are there, but
it's the way it's presented.
I mean, it's very strange.
You might be right.
It might be hypnotic.
In this case, I would say go for
AI, please.
Diplomatic efforts at the highest echelons continue, but
the clock is ticking before EU leaders gather
for a summit in December for a crunch
decision.
For her part, Matanova echoed these concerns.
Sanctions and deliveries and support to the Ukrainian
armed forces and the defense industry are all
critical.
You ask what would happen if it doesn't
take place.
I think the stakes are very high and
not only for Ukraine, but for all of
Europe.
Yes, well, mainly for the military industrial base,
which is building up in the EU.
Leonardo, Leonardo, we've heard of that as a
big defense contractor.
They just unveiled the Michelangelo dome.
Yes, we're trying to do one better than
your Golden Dome, Trump.
It's an AI powered shield system.
Can you say boondoggle?
Boondoggle, what?
An AI powered shield system.
So it's why is it named Michelangelo?
Well, the company is Leonardo.
So they're trying to...
Yes, well, just Leonardo.
How many Leonardo's do you know except DiCaprio?
Da Vinci?
Yes, Da Vinci.
What's it got to do with the...
Michelangelo.
Michelangelo wasn't Leonardo Michelangelo?
It's right in the same city.
Oh, OK.
Same country.
Oh, I get it.
It's a dumb name.
And so it's the same...
Yeah, OK, I got it.
Michelangelo dome.
Michelangelo.
So here's our boy, Rassoulis, in his back
to the pullovers, his back to the sweaters.
On CBC, a very globalist interview, actually, only
got two clips.
First, we'll talk about Zelensky's main guy stepping
down.
And does that affect everything?
Let's talk about the timing of this, because
it is quite a turbulent time politically for
Ukraine, particularly Zelensky dealing with the fallout from
that corruption scandal.
His chief of staff and key negotiator stepped
down on Friday.
So what kind of pressure is that now
putting on Zelensky in these negotiations?
It certainly makes him weaker now.
You have people from the opposition who are
starting to snipe.
You have Zhiluny, the Ukrainian ambassador in London,
who was a former commander of Ukrainian forces,
is now writing articles about how to conclude
a peace.
And you may have to make some deals
on security guarantees.
I mean, people are coming out now and
basically kind of second tiering opinions against Zelensky.
So Zelensky is weaker.
And he's got a new team together, yes.
But it just does not look good on
him, the fact that you have these corruption
scandals, particularly in the area of energy, when
the Russians are actually hitting the energy grid
in Ukraine, and ministers are actually taking 15
% off the top in terms of contracts
to fix the energy grid.
Yeah, that's how you do it.
You make sure that you take some money
and let the grid get blown up and
take some money off of the repair for
the grid.
Who knows?
They could be doing it themselves.
So now we get to the meat of
it.
And this globalist newsreader is very biased.
So the question is, what about the plan?
And our favorite terms de jure, de facto,
and demilitarized zone all are at play.
You know, looking at the initial plan, Trump's
initial 28-point peace plan, it was criticized
as being too weighted towards Russia.
It was called a Russian wish list at
one point by some who were criticizing that.
I didn't hear that.
Did you hear Russian wish list?
What?
What?
Russian what?
The 28-point plan was, by some, called
a Russian wish list.
A wish list.
I didn't hear that.
I haven't heard it.
No, they say it was written by the
Russians or it was Putin's plan, but I
never heard about that wish list.
She's a globalist newsreader.
And part of that included Ukraine ceding the
entire eastern region of the Donbass to Russia,
which, of course, is a non-starter for
Kyiv.
So is there any wiggle room here?
And how can they possibly have or find
a middle ground when it comes to creating
this framework?
Sure, I don't think we're looking for a
middle ground, again, because the balance of forces
favors the Russians.
So I think it's going to be more
give on the Ukrainian side, less give on
the Russian side, but the Russians might give
something.
Now, the thing about the territory, the magic
words is not to cede by law.
That is not de jure.
And the Russians have accepted the fact that
all they're requiring, the Ukrainians and the West,
is to acknowledge.
It's really, I think, stop using the word
cede, but actually it's better to use, acknowledge
the fact that the Russian forces control and
occupy the areas they do.
And that's a major difference.
So de facto, not de jure.
Now, the key pivot here in these final
negotiations will be, as you mentioned, ceding or
giving up the rest of the Donbass, particularly
the fortress built in Donetsk.
That, for the Russians, is really important.
And for the Ukrainians, really important to hold.
I think a lot will shift on that.
And I cannot predict the outcome, except that
a demilitarized zone concept may be a solution
there.
Yeah, this is going to be just like
North and South Korea.
Demilitarized zone, de facto, that's yours, that's ours.
We're not going to paper the deal, because
Europe still needs their boogeyman at the border.
And I think this deal will happen.
I think there's a good chance it happens
this weekend.
I think it'll be pulled up.
There's nothing left.
But this weekend's almost over.
Well, by the time you hear this podcast.
After the, right, well, there you go.
That's possible.
But after the Mar-a-Lago meeting, have
you looked it up?
Did you figure out where they're going to
meet?
Yeah, I looked it up.
Is it going to be Universal World, or
Disney, or Orlando?
Well, according to Gemini, because, you know, Gemini
is not the best AI.
Well, according to the marketing, yes.
Technically, no.
The talks taking place today, Sunday, November 30th,
2025, are not being held directly at Mar
-a-Lago, though they are happening nearby in
Florida, involving key members of President-elect Trump's
inner circle.
They will be taking place at the Hollandale
Beach Shell Bay Club, a golf and rocket
club developed by Trump's special envoy.
Oh, it's Whitkoff's club.
Oh, Whitkoff owns a golf club too?
I guess so, yeah.
The Hollandale Beach at the Shell Bay Club.
That's about an hour south of Mar-a
-Lago.
Well, that's neutral ground.
I think that's Whitkoff.
Hey, we'll do it at my club.
All right.
I'm going to do it at my club.
I want my club, man.
My club is better.
I want my club.
My club is better.
Ah, crazy times we live in.
Crazy, crazy times.
All right.
So we have the Islam Op has taken
off.
And this happens on the heels of this
shooting in D.C. of the two guardsmen.
One female passed away and one in critical
condition.
Do you have any clips on that?
I don't have anything on it.
In the newsletter, I was talking about the
color revolution concept.
Yep.
I'm going to get which we'll talk about,
I guess.
Yes.
And but no, I don't because there's nothing
to me.
There's nothing really.
I'm just not that excited about it.
I mean, I feel bad about the woman
getting killed.
It is interesting.
Also interesting that this guy's probably a spook.
And he came all the way from Bellingham,
Washington, one way or the other to come
to Washington, D.C. to shoot two random
people.
The whole thing, you know, reminds me a
little bit of the shooting in New York
that they covered up where the guy came
in and shot the Blackstone woman.
Yeah.
And they claimed it was he's shooting at
the NFL for some reason because he's got
brain damage, even though he never played football
in the NFL.
And they just to cover up the Blackstone
killing because Blackstone's an issue.
And they were and he came from an
area where they were dominating buying up properties.
Yeah.
So it made sense.
I get the sense of something like that
going on, but I can't put my finger
on what it is.
And why would he?
Well, we don't have enough information.
It felt to me a very six week
cycle like, you know, rile a guy up,
get him to go to D.C., shoot
something.
Somebody had a bit of that.
That is not the official story.
In fact, we'll do this for just a
little bit.
I have it.
By the way, it does have a slight
six week cycle screwed up.
You know, they screwed up again like they
did in Butler.
You know, when when they when they got
the guy, they have pictures.
Why was the guy completely naked?
Did you see these?
Yeah, yeah.
There's pictures of they got the guy and
they got him on a stretcher.
And he's completely naked.
Are you sure there was an AI?
Who knows?
I'm not sure of anything anymore.
Here's the the most recent fallout over this.
New this morning, President Trump says he plans
to suspend immigration from what he calls third
world countries.
The announcement comes after a shooting in downtown
D.C. that killed a National Guard member
and critically injured another.
Police say the suspect is a 29 year
old Afghan national who arrived in 2021.
Trump has not said when the suspension would
begin or which countries it would include.
OK, here's a follow up.
And you've you've made changes for Afghanis ability
to apply for asylum.
Do you blame all Afghans for this one
man?
No, but we've had a lot of problems
with Afghans because a lot of them coming
in on these planes.
Again, I show you this picture.
So he's showing the picture that we've all
seen, I think, of the C-130s completely
packed with people, the people who supposedly were
hanging on the aircraft.
Remember that?
Remember that they were they were hanging on
to the sides of that inflatable fake aircraft.
But inside there were indeed hundreds of people.
Planes again, I show you this picture.
We had a lot of them coming in
on these planes that are so good.
There was no checking.
They just poured into the plane.
And many of these people are criminals.
Many of these people are people that shouldn't
be here.
And many of them have been gotten out.
I mean, we've gotten out some a lot
of the people that, you know, we've taken
a lot of them out of here.
Well, they can't be happy.
OK, they can't be happy because what's taking
place between that, if you look at Somalia,
they're taking over Minnesota and they are.
We got a lot of problems with the
gangs, with all of the things taking place
in Minnesota.
We have an incompetent governor, a dope.
We have a dope.
We got a dope there.
They can't be happy about what's going on.
And if you talk about the Afghans, you
know, there's a problem because so many bad
ones came in on the planes.
They just walked in.
Whoever the strongest people were physically in a
way.
But whoever the strongest they got on the
planes, there was no checking.
They just swapped the planes.
They took off.
We had no idea who they were.
OK, so we had no idea.
And in many cases we did not.
And there was and absolutely there were a
lot of Afghanis similar to Iraq who worked
as translators and worked closely.
This was it.
This is a different deal.
This is a, you know, it's a little
vague about, yeah, I was a CIA trained.
These are basically mercenaries as far as I
can tell.
And they were doing a lot in northern
Afghanistan, even when everybody pulled out because they
were still fighting, I guess, the Kurds up
there or something.
So it's very sketchy as to his CIA
training and connection.
Unfortunately, if you're the female reporter who asked
about this, you got the brunt of President
Trump.
Your DOJ IG just reported this year that
there was thorough vetting by DHS and by
the FBI of these Afghans who were brought
into the US.
So why do you blame the Biden administration?
Because they let them in.
Are you stupid?
Are you a stupid person?
Because they came in on a plane along
with thousands of other people that shouldn't be
here.
And you're just asking questions because you're a
stupid person.
There you go.
Well, you know, I missed that.
Are you a stupid person?
OK, now, for whatever.
If you're I'm trying to always imagine if
you're a reporter.
Yeah.
And you have this question list and you
have to get some response or other.
And you ask, you know, it's innocuous.
He could have been nicer.
But then they blast her.
Just gets blasted out of the water.
And maybe at some point it becomes a
badge of some sort.
You know, oh, I got.
Oh, definitely.
Oh, of course.
Hey, Trump called me stupid.
Wow.
Have a drink on me.
So what's interesting is the Sunday shows.
Thank you, Steve, for getting that for me.
The Sunday shows it was Kristi Noem everywhere.
It wasn't Kash Patel.
Yeah, Kristi Noem is on it.
She's got it.
She's yes.
She's been booked to an extreme everywhere.
So she's the one sending out the messaging
and she's good at it.
And this is her with Jonathan Karl on
ABC.
Let's turn to Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.
Secretary Noem, thank you for joining us.
Have we learned any?
Have you learned anything about the motivations of
this shooter?
Why did he do this?
Why did he drive across the country and
carry out this brazen attack in Washington?
Well, the investigation is still ongoing and we're
allowing our partnership with the FBI and DOJ
to continue to reveal all of the sources
of motivation.
But we do believe this individual when they
came into the country, we know he was
unvetted.
He was brought into the country by the
Biden administration through Operation Allies Welcome and then
maybe vetted after that, but not done well
based on what the guidelines were put forward
by President Biden.
And now since he's been here, we believe
he could have been radicalized in his home
community and in his home state.
So as we continue to talk to his
family and his contacts, more details will be
revealed and we'll release those when it's appropriate.
OK, so the message is he was radicalized
in his home, Washington.
So Washington's on deck.
I'll give you the rundown on that.
OK, the thinking goes as follows.
And this is being rolled out.
You cut, it's a good clip because it
catches it in real time.
But the thought is, oh, yeah, well, we
got these guys, we vetted them and we
gave a bunch of money and they're going
to then cut them loose after two years,
expecting them to be on their own.
They're going to do fine, but they couldn't
make it.
They couldn't make it because it was too
tough.
And so they ended up getting caught up
with the bad actors here in within the
country.
And they and those guys and the bad
actors flipped them.
Is there a is there a huge Afghan
community in Washington?
In Bellingham, Washington?
Ah, you sound like I don't think so.
No, no, maybe there is.
I don't know that there is.
Let's find Washington state is a racist state
that is very few little on because it's
not like Minnesota where you have that enclave
of Somalians or Sudanese.
And no, not that I know of.
I mean, it's possible.
Call Mimi, ask her.
She'll know.
No, she she's here and she doesn't.
She's never heard of such a thing.
OK, all right.
We'll go on to the radicalization part with
Christie.
But you just said that he was radicalized
here in the United States.
So is our understanding that the issue, his
intent happened here?
And this was not something he came to
the United States with an intent to carry
out an attacks like this?
Well, we know that when Joe Biden left
the White House, he left us with a
1.5 million.
This is all anti-Democrat now at this
point.
At this point, it's like good luck.
Democrats, Democrats, Joe Biden.
He did a Democrats case backlog in asylum
claims.
And individuals are required under US law and
under policy.
US law?
She said under law.
No, she said US law.
I think she's reading a script.
Let's go US law.
And she said US.
Yeah, listen again.
It's backlog in asylum claims and individuals are
required under US law and under policy.
She said under US law.
She misreads the script.
So she says US instead of US law.
Because there's a big difference between saying US
law.
I would think so.
She's reading a script.
OK, yeah, you're absolutely correct.
You're right again.
Wow.
Please go back to the old John and
say I can't argue that with you.
This is a great.
That's a great catch.
She's scripted and they're trying to they're trying
to pin everything on by the logic.
There's a logical problem here, which they have
not addressed in any way, shape or form.
OK, he's in in Bellingham, Washington, of all
places.
He's flipped somehow because he was a CIA
trainee and he was part of some group
in Afghanistan.
But he's been flipped and for and instead
of taking care of business either locally or
someplace within earshot, he drives all the way
to Washington, D.C. to randomly shoot randomly
shoot to specific people outside of a, you
know, basically a subway station or subway stop.
You get out, you walk up the steps
and there's a couple of people there to
shoot him.
This is no, no, no, sorry.
Maybe you better fill in the blanks a
little better than that.
Maybe he got on the wrong plane.
He thought Washington was where he lives.
I don't know.
He's maybe he's one of those stupid people.
Let's listen to us law again.
Well, we know that when Joe Biden left
the White House, he left us with a
1.5 million case backlog in asylum claims.
And individuals are required under law and under
policy to check in every single year when
they have asylum in this country.
And that wasn't being done.
These individuals that were brought in were brought
in and then vetted on information that was
gathered by the Biden administration that wasn't thorough.
And so now we're completely changing that since
President Trump has been in the White House.
And since I've been at DHS, we're using
biometric information.
We're using those social media platforms and looking
at what they're saying and doing and making
sure that we have a government when a
country is sending us someone.
We have a government that is stable in
that country.
They can actually share information with us.
How do we vet someone that comes from
Afghanistan or Somalia or Yemen if they don't
have a government that we can communicate with
that will share information with us?
So that is one of the prerogatives and
one of the priorities that we're putting on
these countries if they want to continue to
send us people that want to claim asylum.
Okay, so I don't think this is a
DHS op.
I think DHS, Kristi Noem in particular, is
being given a script to put the Yemenis
and the Somalis on point.
Remember, Trump said he's a dope.
He's a dope.
We got Somalians.
This is a never-let-a-crisis-go
-to-waste moment here.
Like, okay, well, this sucks.
However, now we can go after those Somalis
because they're a pain in the ass too.
That's what I'm smelling here.
And that's why...
I can't disagree with this.
I'll go back to my old ways.
Thank you.
I feel much more comfortable.
As you should.
And now we go to CBS, CIA Broadcasting
Systems, and I say that because they bring
on...
They used to be.
Well, they bring on Samantha Vinograd.
She's like a salad dressing.
Vinograd.
Vinograd, yes.
She was a Vinograd.
Vinograd.
I think they actually say Vinograd.
She was the Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security
for Counterterrorism, Threat Prevention, and Law Enforcement Policy
for the Biden administration.
But listen to her career.
Vinograd joined the U.S. Department of the
Treasury working as a deputy attache to Iraq
as an international economist.
Oh, that was during George W.
Bush.
Then 2009, Obama.
She suddenly becomes...
She has tenure at the National Security Council,
worked for Donilon.
Then she ejects.
She goes to Goldman Sachs.
She works at Stripe, which is good because
if we ever need something, we can call
Vinograd.
Leading global public policy before joining CNN as
a national security analyst.
Then she was a senior advisor at the
Biden Institute at University of Delaware, worked as
an advisor for the U.S. Fund for
UNICEF, named the David E.
Rockefeller Fellow at the Trilateral Commission, a Millennium
Fellow at the Atlantic Council, and serves on
the board of the Women Foreign Policy Group
and co-founded Global Opportunity Advisors, a geopolitical
risk and policy girl.
Very, very, very busy lady.
Let's talk to Ms. Vinograd.
For more on the vetting of the suspect
before he entered the country, we are joined
now by Samantha Vinograd, who is a former
top counterterrorism official at the Department of Homeland
Security under President Biden and was deeply involved
in the process for screening and vetting.
She is now a national security contributor here
at CBS News.
Sam, so good to have you with us.
Just this morning, the attorney general said that
this suspect entered the U.S. with minimal
to little vetting.
Is that accurate?
Well, Nancy, I'm happy to talk about the
vetting.
But at this point, we don't have indications
that the horrific tragedy was a result of
a vetting failure.
Instead, the attorney general also said this morning,
it appears the individual was radicalized once here.
And let's be clear on what the vetting
system is and what it isn't.
The vetting system is a system in which
an individual's identifiers, their biographic information and biometric
information, iris scans- Their biographic information?
What, you gotta show them your wiki page?
I think she meant biometric.
I think so too.
Biographic.
And let's be clear on what the vetting
system is and what it isn't.
The vetting system is a system in which
an individual's identifiers, their biographic information and biometric
information, iris scans- Not necessarily.
No, she meant biographic.
Hey, she's a spook.
The vetting system is a system in which
an individual's identifiers, their biographic information and biometric
information, iris scans, fingerprints, facial images, are run
against data sets of information about individuals with
ties to terrorism and criminal history.
The vetting system is not predictive of whether
an individual with no derogatory information is or
is not at some point going to become
violent.
What I can tell you is this, and
I was involved in the process.
Every Afghan evacuee underwent vetting overseas before they
were clear to be manifested for a flight
to the United States.
They underwent vetting once they were manifested for
a flight at a port of entry before
entering the United States.
And then Afghan evacuees, including the suspect, were
vetted again once in the US by the
Biden administration.
And this suspect underwent the most comprehensive vetting
under the current administration when he applied for
asylum.
That process would typically involve an interview and
a review of social media handles.
Social media handles.
My goodness, we're like Britain now all of
a sudden.
She's going to finish it up here.
What can you tell us about these so
-called zero units that the suspect was a
part of in Afghanistan?
He worked with the CIA for years, right?
He did, which means that he was vetted
by the CIA prior to beginning work in
the zero unit, which was a paramilitary and
intelligence force that partnered with the CIA incredibly
closely on some very intense missions.
So this suspect reportedly underwent vetting by the
CIA for the first time over a decade
ago.
He had highly specialized training.
He did undergo vetting at the time that
he started working with the CIA and went
on some very complex missions.
These units were accused of certain human rights
abuses.
Yeah, they're mercenaries.
They're mercs.
She's talking out of her butt here.
Like, yeah, get a CIA.
The CIA guys are always available to talk,
but now you can't get one for some
reason.
They got one.
She is one.
Well, yeah.
Okay.
So she's doing her own messaging.
There is, going back to Kristi Noem with
Manhans Welker, there's a little problem with the
vetting in the asylum process.
Well, but just to be very clear, I
want to go back to what happened on
the Trump administration's watch.
He was extensively vetted in order to serve
alongside U.S. service members as a part
of the CIA-trained strike force.
But in terms of what happened on the
Trump administration's watch, just to be very clear,
what vetting did the Trump administration do before
giving the suspect asylum?
How do they know all this?
All we have is a photocopy of some
ID that looks muddy.
This is all, to me, this is all
a distraction to keep you from asking the
question I just asked a while ago.
Why did this guy come all the way
from Bellingham, Washington, supposedly driving?
Did they ever say, what's this car look
like?
They don't talk about any of that.
No.
What was found in the car?
We don't know.
No.
They don't talk about any of that because
he could have flown out for all we
know on a C-130.
And comes in and randomly shoots two guardsmen
out of the blue for no apparent reason
and just picks two out of the blue.
He could have shot people.
He could have gone to Portland, a little
shorter drive.
There's plenty of military there.
He could have gone anywhere.
He could have gone to the local Air
Force base.
And how come we don't have a picture
of his driver's license or of his social
media handles?
All I see is this muddy photocopy thing
that's saying it's him.
Yeah, you're right.
It's muddy.
Why is it such a crappy copy?
And that's what they're bringing it, this vetting,
vetting, vetting, vetting, vetting, and Trump's vetting.
It's like there's a missing piece of this
puzzle and it has something to do with
why he went all the way from Bellingham,
somehow got to Washington, D.C., and shot
two people.
And if it was, were they targets?
I mean, there's something missing here and it's
big.
The vetting process, Kristen, happens when the person
comes into the country.
And Joe Biden completely did not vet any
of these individuals.
He did not vet this individual.
Waited until he got into the United States.
And then that application for asylum was opened
under the Joe Biden administration.
When he was the president in the White
House and allowed that to go forward with
the information that they provided.
That's the Biden administration's responsibility.
This is the consequences of the dangerous situation
he put our country in when he allowed
those people to infiltrate our country during that
abandonment of Afghanistan.
And that's why I'm so grateful we have
a president now that isn't going to allow
it to happen, that he now has put
in place measures under his watch at the
Department of Homeland Security that we are bringing
in new information on vetting, new information to
use, such as what do they do on
Facebook?
What do they do on TikTok and other
social media platforms?
And who are they talking to?
Who are their conversations with?
And we use their biometric data information now
to track, to make sure they are who
they say they are.
And they're here for their right intentions.
You've got to get through the script.
So can I stop for a second?
Yeah, sure.
Does everybody who comes into the country from
Afghanistan, all of a sudden, they have to
be on TikTok and Facebook?
No, no.
This makes no sense to me.
It makes perfect sense to me.
This is the beginning of the digital ID
that Kristi Noem personally is pushing very hard.
With a real ID.
I have, in some clips that I'll get
to later, I think you're right.
Digital ID is part of this issue.
It's kind of a backstory.
It's a subtext.
Digital ID.
Also, digital currency is a subtext.
And I think there's another one that's coming
up, which I'll discuss when I get to
these clips.
So we'll end the Manhattan's Welker.
She brings on Senator Mark Kelly.
And he knows what this is all about,
of course.
Joining me now is Democratic Senator Mark Kelly
of Arizona.
Senator Kelly, welcome back to Meet the Press.
Good to be on.
Thank you.
It's wonderful to have you back after a
really significant week.
And I do want to start with the
National Guard shooting.
You, of course, served in uniform.
You know firsthand the impact, the devastation of
gun violence.
You just heard Secretary Noem defend President Trump's
decision to, quote, permanently pause migration from all
third world countries.
What is your response to how President Trump
is handling this?
Well, let me start by saying what happened
to the two guardsmen, Andrew Wolf, Sarah Beckstrom.
Horrific.
And it shouldn't happen.
And I'm praying for him and for her
family.
It was a horrible, horrible thing.
And there needs to be an investigation and
accountability.
But when I heard the Secretary say that
they're going to pause immigration from third world
countries, I mean, I take that as a
message that they don't want brown people coming
to the United States.
And I find that disturbing.
Donald Trump hates brown people.
That is the answer.
No, Senator Mark Kelly.
Now, this was used.
Not that guy.
This this horrible attack was used immediately to
strengthen the ongoing Islam op, which is taking
place, which seems to be emanating from Texas
currently, mainly.
Yes, this is a good point.
Yeah, and who in Texas would possibly why
would they have a concern?
Because they have this, of course, he's phony.
All of a sudden, there's all these mosques
that are cropping up and they're going to
build the meadow.
Yes, which is going to be an enclave
of Sharia law.
Yes, yes.
And all the rest of.
Yeah, we've heard this.
And I understand that you had a dinner
recently.
Well, here's everybody is hair on fire for
Islam.
Because it's doing the rounds and there's great
concern about Sharia law.
It's going to be Sharia law on the
schools, Sharia law on the streets, Sharia law
in your HOA.
Well, that's always been no way.
That's always been Sharia law.
There's nothing new.
There are Sharia law.
Yes, if you're in an HOA, you're in
Sharia law.
That why people put up with this is
beyond me.
But OK, but OK, go ahead.
So Kara, so all of this stems from
one major source, which has been seeding the
airwaves in Texas.
And that is General Michael Flynn.
And he was on Alex Jones.
I have two pertinent clips from that.
This will be good.
But we need to first listen to the
follow up after the the the the 20
minutes that Flynn did just earlier this week
on InfoWars with Alex Jones, one of his
famous in the car talks.
Two weeks ago, I syndicated broadcast General Flynn,
the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency,
predicted that in the coming months or even
weeks, the deep state CIA elements ally of
the Democratic Party with Communist China, Venezuela and
others will begin triggering sleeper cells inside the
United States, particularly Islamic.
I'll post the interview below.
It was on my broadcast yesterday and pointed
out that all the evidence is clear.
We've also had whistleblowers that have talked to
Jesse Waters Fox from inside the CIA that
this whole program with the seditious six and
the script they meant they were given.
Brennan's the handler, the former head of the
CIA for my analysis.
OK, so let's just stop right there.
And by the way, I'm very annoyed with
myself because I had this clip a couple
of weeks ago and I didn't put it
on.
No, this is not a couple of weeks
ago.
This is all.
No, it's recent.
No, this is whenever I saw this clip
because I saw it.
I said, oh, this is great for the
show.
And then I never get anything.
You made a mistake.
You texted the link to me.
Oh, did I send it to you?
Yes.
Huge mistake.
Because then I went that was a huge
blunder.
What am I thinking?
I don't know.
Then it was OK.
You're on a roll and you got it
nailed.
You were besides that.
You're the Texas Nexus.
Yes, it's right here.
It's right down the street.
So now his analysis.
And I love Alex, but his analysis, according
to my analysis, he says Brennan is the
handler.
Brennan did the seditious sick script.
John C.
Dvorak, go.
It seems unlikely.
There's a couple of things going on when
there's this group that I mentioned in the
newsletter, New Politic, which seems to have everybody
in that group as poster childs.
But this has got Schumer.
I don't care what anybody thinks.
Schumer's written all over this thing, especially the
don't give up the ship, which is an
old phrase.
That only somebody that is old as Schumer
would even think of or think it's applicable.
It's got nothing to do with ships.
And this is Schumer in his, you know,
running the running his side of the of
the game to get the Democrats to win.
It's all about the midterms.
There's nothing about it.
Yeah, you can yell and scream and pull
your hair out over Sharia law and all
the rest of it.
But this is just to get the Democrats
in and Schumer's behind it.
Totally agree.
And I'm not blaming Alex for thinking this,
because the way he thinks is.
Brennan is a Muslim.
You and I know that Brennan loves Islam.
And so therefore, it has to be Brennan.
And he's setting it all up.
This whole operation they've been running of saying,
implying Trump's putting out illegal orders is ahead
of major events to destabilize the United States
with different paramilitary forces.
And then when Trump tries to call the
military, the corporate media would already pre-plan
the idea that his orders are illegal.
This is sedition.
This is the prep phase for a violent
coup.
And I've been predicting it along with General
Flynn as well.
Yeah, for years.
This is a very, very serious time right
now.
And now we know, as you see below,
it's been released by CIA Director Radcliffe.
Laura Logan has posted the information.
And she's got incredible intel connections.
I'll just leave it at that.
That this guy was part of a CIA
strike force.
And that's what his ID says in Afghanistan.
And of course, her husband's been deployed over
there for forever and was a leading commander.
And there's also a very good source of
information on that front.
So this is a major message to Trump.
This is a probe.
This was just literally hundreds of feet away
from the fence at the White House.
And there's gonna be more of this.
So people better get ready.
It's very, very, very, very, very serious.
So I love my neighbor.
I really do.
I love my neighbor.
And her husband, very, very important guy.
Her husband is the guy who tells everyone
the grid's gonna go down and JFK Jr.
is alive.
And don't forget that the government shutdown was
gonna last till Christmas.
90 days, 90 days, 90 days.
It was 90 days and then the next
day it ended.
Yes, so.
The next day.
So before I get to my neighbor, first
we'll go to General Flynn, who was setting
all of this up.
Flynn is the op, man.
He is the op.
No, Flynn is.
He is the op.
You know, I'm looking back on Flynn.
Flynn was submarine a bunch of things before
he even got to be head of DEI.
I'm sorry, DEI.
The defense, the DEI.
Sorry, the DEI, geez.
What's wrong with you?
I've been brainwashed.
So the defense intelligence, before he became the
head of it, he was already causing trouble.
And then when he got into the first
Trump administration, it was one, I had to
take this, give credit to, I think it
was Mad Dog Mattis or one of them,
or Kelly maybe before him.
I can't remember the, but they got rid
of him as fast as they could.
They, Trump wanted him as an intelligence guy
in the White House.
And they rousted that guy so fast that
it was like, it was phenomenal.
And I had mixed feelings about it to
this day because I thought he might've been
doing a good job.
But over time with you running into him
and then watching this go on, I'm glad
they did.
So here he is spouting off on AJ
about fifth generation warfare.
This is it.
So what do we need?
We need a couple of things.
Number one, we need the Oval Office to
throttle.
And I mean, throttle down on this idea
of information operations and understand that we are
in the middle of what is called unrestricted
warfare.
Unrestricted warfare is where there are, it is
boundless what you can do.
And it comes out of, you've talked a
lot about this, Alex.
It comes out of the Chinese manual back
in the late 90s, which I've read that
a bunch of times.
I've written a manual myself on fifth generation
warfare.
He literally wrote a manual.
I actually have a copy of it somewhere.
It's like psyops.
What are they?
That's his manual.
It is unrestricted warfare is without bounds.
That is what we are in the midst
of right now.
And everybody needs to understand that.
So- You're talking full spectrum war.
That's right, full spectrum.
I mean, everything.
You're talking about the idea of illegal exploitation
of different commodities, human beings, drugs.
We're talking about false, false action and false
flags when it comes to economic warfare, right?
You say you're going to do something and
you do just the opposite.
Now, this is interesting because he's not on
Trump's team.
I'm not sure who he's actually, what team
he's playing for.
But this next part proves that to me.
It's the whole idea about using the information
like TikTok.
Trump will sit there and I hope he's
listening to this.
Trump will sit there and go, Xi and
I just had a great call.
And we're going to do the following things.
Well, when Trump hung up, he has a
duty, which he does.
He tells the American people, Xi and I
just had a great call.
And we're going to do all these great
things.
And we're going to have trade deals.
And we're going to do TikTok and blah,
blah, blah.
And we're going to 600,000 students for
the next couple of years from China.
Xi hangs up and tells his team, great,
we got exactly what we want out of
them.
We're going to triple down.
We're going to quadruple down.
And we're going to continue to screw the
United States of America.
That's how they operate, Alex.
They don't operate like Donald J Trump operates
because he, as you said, he does have
a duty to preserve the Constitution of the
United States.
He has a duty to inform our country
and the people of our country because we're
a democracy, we're a republic.
And so he's trying to be as transparent
as he can be.
But trust me, we are not dealing with
an even hand here.
So I don't know who he's working for,
but that was not nice towards the president.
I mean, it may be true, but it's
not.
Yeah, it makes it sounds like he knows
what's going on in the president's night.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
So now we go to the neighbor, Laura
Logan, her most recent episode she has on
Jim Simpson.
Jim Simpson wrote the book about, well, you'll
hear what it is, it's Jim Simpson.
It's Jim Simpson.
Don't you know Jim?
No.
No, of course not.
No one's ever heard of Jim Simpson.
But he wrote the book on the Marxist
Islamist axis.
So now this is a big, we talked
about it on the show.
I mentioned this is what the insiders all,
you know, this is the Marxist.
Yeah, yeah.
Old commies.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's old commies, new playbook.
It's all about the midterms.
Welcome back to the program.
Okay, our guest today is someone I have
known for a number of years now.
He caught my attention with his written work
as an author and some of your film
work, Jim, because you've been in a couple
of films along with the great Trevor Loudon.
You were one of the early voices, Jim
Simpson, in figuring out how mass migration was
being used as a tool of Marxists and
communists to invade the United States of America
and Western countries around the world.
And then, of course, how Islamic immigration has
been used as a cover by the Marxists,
which led right to one of your more
recent books over the last few years, the
red-green axis and how to understand it.
I have now added to that.
I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Other people do have added the red-green
-blue axis to that to include the globalists
and how we're being played and how these
forces around us really work.
So here's Jim now.
He's going to tell us what this is
about.
What I think he's saying is the Democrats
use Islamists to bring in their Marxist ideas.
Well, you know, it's very interesting because we've
been talking, we've been hearing a lot in
the news lately about the red-green alliance,
they call it.
And, you know, I was taken from the
red-green axis, the two books that I
wrote on it.
But it's really not so much an alliance
as it is the communists using the Islamic
radicals and the, frankly, the Muslim Brotherhood and
the entire Islamic movement, the entire radical Islamic
movement, including Islamic terrorism.
They've been using them as cutouts for continued
war against the West with plausible deniability.
And people don't get that part.
Now, it's absolutely true that, you know, the
Islamists that want to see Sharia law imposed
in the United States and elsewhere in the
West, many of them are very serious about
that.
But a lot of the leaders, and I
include Zoran Mamdani in that category, are actually
communists and they're using Islamism as a cover.
There you go.
So the whole op here is be afraid
of what?
Well, I was going to mention something, which
is he uses red-green alliance to indicate
this Muslim communist thing, which he, I guess,
put in his book.
But he says it's widely used.
It's not.
No.
This is bull crap.
Red-green.
And in fact, I just looked it up
while you were playing that.
The term red-green alliance typically describes a
political alliance of coalition involving red parties, such
as Social Democrat and green environmentalists.
What's the environmentalists got to do with Sharia
law?
This is just rebranding.
He's just rebranding on the fly.
We need to bring another actor in.
This is co-opting.
He's trying to take the term and give
it to himself and then make it green
as somehow means Muslim.
I don't see that.
No.
It's not going to work.
Well, bring in another actor, Laura Loomer.
She posts the day before yesterday after the
attack, of course.
We had the attack in D.C. Urgent
intelligence alert with flashing lights emojis.
NCTC, National Counterterrorism Center, confirms Al-Qaeda presence
on U.S. soil, imminent multi-city Islamic
terror attacks.
So now we have Laura Loomer.
We have Laura Logan.
We have Alex Jones.
We have General Flynn.
It all kind of comes down to the
sleeper cells.
And she says this.
Sources tell me tonight that the National Counterterrorism
Center has officially determined that Islamic terrorists affiliated
with Al-Qaeda have infiltrated U.S. soil
and are actively planning a series of coordinated
Islamic terror attacks.
This marks the first time federal counterterrorism officials
have openly acknowledged the immediacy of such threats,
signaling a potential escalation of domestic jihadist activity
not seen since the height of ISIS-inspired
plots in the mid-2010s.
She goes on and on and on.
My sources tell me the attack strategy by
Al-Qaeda is designed to sow confusion and
cripple emergency response.
These terrorists have been purchasing large quantities of
police and first responder uniforms from surplus outlets
and online vendors in at least five states.
These acquisitions trace through bulk credit card anomalies
and CCTV footage suggests a plan to impersonate
law enforcement during the assaults, allowing attackers to
blend in, direct panic crowds, or even execute
secondary strikes on fleeing victims.
So blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
The plot's mass scale points to simultaneous strikes
across multiple cities, be afraid, echoing Al-Qaeda's
historical ambitions for mass casualty operations like 9
-11, but adapted for urban guerrilla tactics.
Targets could include soft sites such as crowded
events, transportation hubs, and public gatherings, we are
under attack.
Okay, so she links to a page on
the NCTC's website where they indeed say, Al
-Qaeda's recent calls to conduct attacks in the
U.S. highlights its enduring threat to public
safety.
So I'm like, oh, well, maybe she's not
full of crap.
Scope, this product is intended to inform federal,
state, local, tribal, and territorial government, law enforcement,
and first responders.
Al-Qaeda's recent calls for attacks against the
United States.
So here's where they got it from.
Al-Qaeda's resurgence of calls for attacks in
the homeland highlights its persistence and enduring threat
to the country, U.S. officials, and public
safety.
Al-Qaeda and its Yemen-based affiliate, Al
-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, been waiting for
those guys to come back, the only affiliate
to have successfully enabled attack in the homeland,
are likely seeking to leverage their media publications
and global conflicts, particularly where there is U
.S. support or military involvement to inspire potential
attackers.
And here's their proof.
In mid-July 2025, Al-Qaeda on the
Arabian Peninsula released the 10th edition of its
English-language Inspire magazine.
They brought this back.
The CIA magazine.
They're literally bringing back Inspire magazine.
Yeah.
Which is a magazine.
It's like Wired for Islamists, for jihadists.
We have been through this so many times.
It's the stupidest thing.
So this is an op on all sides.
And then Alex Jones takes it to the
limit as he brings in something new we
can all tweet about.
Uprising that will come after some catalyzing false
flag event.
Now, General Flynn, the former head of Defense
Intelligence Agency, has been warning of this.
I've been warning of this.
And there's really few others that have studied
or understood it for whatever reason.
And who go read the Podesta plan and
seeing them execute every piece of it.
So the focus is on this statement telling
the military, don't follow orders, basically.
You can argue that's free speech, but not
who produced it, not who gave them the
script.
And it's Brennan, we know.
And then they now admit they were given
the script.
We know.
And it's this continuum of crossfire hurricane and
Arctic frost and all the fake impeachments meant
to undermine a duly elected government.
That is treason.
That is seditious conspiracy.
So he brings it back to a favorite,
which is the Podesta plan.
The Podesta plan.
This has all been planned.
This attack is imminent.
It's a color revolution inside the United States,
all organized by Brennan.
We know it is.
It's a fact.
Here's Alex Jones explaining the Podesta plan on
Tucker Carlson.
What is the Podesta plan?
When I talk about this, I get chills
because of 2020.
Breitbart wrote about it.
The Daily Caller wrote about it.
But the New York Times wrote about it
first.
He comes out of this huge report and
they published the whole thing.
And I read like this, it was like
70 pages or something.
And they say, if Trump wins in 2020,
this is in August, months before, which they
were able to steal it, he said, we're
going to have Western states secede.
We're going to have blue cities secede.
But we'll start with the Western states, California,
Oregon, and Washington.
And we'll call it over migrants and sanctuary
cities and healthcare at first, which they're now
doing.
I'm getting chills because it's all happening.
You go to a play and you're reading,
oh, the next act is this.
And Romeo and Juliet, I mean, it's all
right there.
Oh, it's an act, all right.
And they say, if he wins, we will
say it's illegitimate.
We will have blue states first secede that
they're going to be sanctuary cities for the
illegals.
Then when there's civil unrest, which they'll furnish,
Trump will send the National Guard and then
there'll be a massacre of the migrants.
And then we will kick off a civil
war.
Then all the blue cities across the country
will secede.
The New York, Massachusetts and others will secede
and we'll form what we call the Western
Alliance.
And we will then, the US military will
be with us as they control the generals,
people that don't think otherwise, that was Trump's
big mistake he found out.
Most of them are globalists at the top,
not European enlisted, they're great people.
And that they would then form a military
alliance if Trump didn't stand down, they would
march on DC.
Yes.
So the Podesta plan as published by the
New York Times, I read it, it's from
2010.
The power of the president, recommendations to advance
progressive change, outlines democratic president, which of course
was Obama, could use executive authority to implement
progressive priorities like climate action, immigration reform and
labor rights without relying on a hostile Congress.
This thing, there's nothing in it about any
of the things Jones just said.
Unless he's read something that the New York
Times didn't publish, but I'm not familiar with
any of it.
And it was really just liberal, raise the
minimum wage, expand protections for undocumented immigrants, executive
orders to reduce carbon emissions.
But oh no, no, no.
This thing is so real, they made a
movie about it, remember?
And then they made a movie produced two
years ago, they released last year called Civil
War, that is the last act of the
Podesta plan.
That's in a two plus year civil war
race-based.
At the end, they go and the black
female sergeant kills the Trumpian figure in the
White House.
And that's because evil white people are out
massacring brown people across the country.
So the US military reconvenes under Gavin Newsom's
command type.
And then they come in and then they
take over the country and then they reeducate
all the evil right wingers and evil white
people.
I love my neighbor.
I love Alex.
This is bull crap.
This is utter bull crap.
So don't get spun up over this.
This is just about the midterms.
It's connecting some Islamic fear over 48 mosques
in two years in Texas, which is a
total op from Abbott.
You know, anything.
We'll do anything we can.
And these two guardsmen are dead?
Eh, we'll use that one too.
Oh yeah, they're everywhere.
So I don't, you're right.
This really does cover up the real question.
Why did this guy go from Washington state
to Washington, D.C.? And of course, it's
horrible what he did.
Why was he naked?
I want to know that.
Yeah, I didn't even know that part.
But this is, this is all about linking
Democrats to Islamic jihadists.
That's really all this is.
And it's kind of pathetic.
I don't think so either.
It may work in Texas to get people
to make sure you get out.
It'll work in Texas, but Texas is not
the place where it needs to work.
No.
Because they're already a red state.
Yes, I'm with you.
The whole thing.
So it's like you're running a op on
yourself.
Well, that's a, there's a wise move.
Well, I'd like to know who Flynn is
working for.
That's, that's the thing I don't.
You know, it also seems to be a
bit about this American first.
He could be just, how about this?
He's just delusional.
No, no, no, no, no.
You think he's actually.
I saw him when I met him, he's
looking for a bigger wallet.
He looks right through your head to see
if there's a big wallet on the other
side of you.
That's, and that's just my perception.
You know, like, oh, what can this guy
for me?
Podfather?
Nah, Podfather, nothing.
I want Daddy Warbucks.
That's, that's what it felt like to me.
So there, this has to be part of
this sub narrative of.
The national divorce, you know, the MAGA, civil
war, the breakup, America first.
There's ops running every, and they're probably running
counter to each other.
But it sounds like he's on the America
first team to say, well, you know, Trump's
a good guy.
Donald J.
Trump, but with Donald J.
Trump, but he doesn't, she's smarter than him.
She is just laughing in his behind his
back.
So this is all about midterms and who
comes after the Democrats win the midterms and
they impeach Trump.
That's, that's what it seems like to me.
And along with that.
Well, I mean, the impeaching is going to
mean nothing because they, they're never going to
get their votes in the Senate under any
circumstance.
So it's a complete waste of time.
Well, no, they'll impeach him in the house.
But it's designed to disable them.
They'll, yeah, they'll impeach him in the house.
Yeah, well, that's what you do.
Yeah.
But, but this just disables, it creates another
new cycle of bull crap.
And they can't get anything done.
So whatever's going to get done is going
to get done before then.
And there's nothing, the second two years of
his term is going to be pretty much
a disaster.
If they, if the Democrats have their way
and I see no evidence that they want,
the Republicans are blowing it left and right.
They're not, you know, accomplishing.
I mean, they've done a lot, but mostly
internationally doesn't, international stuff never affects the populace.
Domestic voter.
The domestic voters are happy with it, but
as far as they're concerned, no, no, the
prices are going up.
No, they're not really going up.
Well, they are.
Yeah.
They haven't gone down.
He says we're going to make them go
down.
They never go down.
They called it, that's called, you know, depression.
Can't do that.
Well, this is like, this is set up
poorly.
They've done a lousy job of it.
Well, because you bring that up, we have
Kevin Hassett, the Cheshire cat.
The guy who was so happy about 112
,000 jobs and said, oh, this is great.
This is a doubling.
This is fantastic.
He's the chair of the President's Economic Council.
So he was now basically tapped to be
the next chairman of the Federal Reserve.
And CBS brought him on to question him
about inflation and prices.
I'm wondering how much of that spending increase
you think is attributable to the fact that
prices are up?
Let me give you an example.
The maker of Tonka Trucks said a couple
days ago that a toy truck that cost
$30 last year is going to cost $40
this year, partly because they lost about eight
weeks of shipping due to the US trade
war with China.
What's your advice to holiday shoppers who don't
want to spend more this year than they
did last year or can't afford to spend
more?
Right, well, as you know, it depends on
what you're looking at, like egg prices are
down, gasoline prices drop below $2 a gallon
in a lot of places.
You mean below- Mortgage rates are down.
Gas prices on average are still at $3
a gallon.
Yeah, that's right.
For a few states, they got below $2.
So the point is just that in the
end, what matters is in the aggregate, the
average across everything that everybody buys.
And that averaged about 5% under Joe
Biden and is a little bit above 2
.5%, about cut in half for President Trump.
And the bottom line, though, is really that
wages have been growing faster than prices.
And that's why real incomes this year are
up by about $1,200 so far.
That's why we can have a great Black
Friday and a great Thanksgiving sales weekend because
people feel like they have more money in
their pockets.
Even though you're right, there are some things
that cost more, some things that cost less,
but on average, we're about half the inflation
rate of Joe Biden.
Now, just a question.
Do you think that's true?
Do you know that to be true?
I think it's generally true, but people keep
ignoring the fact that inflation is cumulative.
Yes, it adds up.
So if you have something that costs $10
and then got jacked up to $20 and
then the inflation drops to 2%, it's still
going up in price and it doesn't go
down from 20.
It goes up.
It keeps going up.
It's always going up a little bit.
Number go up to the moon.
Number go up.
So you end up with...
So, you know, the promises can't be fulfilled.
You can't go back to the $10.
It just can't be done.
So Kevin Hassett probably will be the next
Federal Reserve chairman unless he screws something up
in the meantime, because you know how Trump
is.
He'll change it on a dime.
And the markets love him.
Bloomberg is reporting, as I'm sure you know,
that you are now considered the front runner
to replace Fed Reserve Chair Jay Powell when
his term expires in the spring.
Secretary Besant, who is heading up this search,
said he was holding final interviews this week.
How did yours go?
You know, I am not sure that Bloomberg
has the story right.
I'm really honored to be amongst a group
of really great candidates.
The thing that I was most impressed about
this week when that story leaked was that
really, I think the news for markets was
that President Trump is close to announcing a
new person who's going to replace Jay Powell.
And if you look at the market response
to that, it was very, very positive.
We had a great Treasury auction.
Interest rates went down.
And so I think that the American people
could expect President Trump to pick somebody who's
going to help them have cheaper car loans
and easier access to mortgages at lower rates.
And that's what we saw in the market
response to the rumor about me, which is
probably about as valuable as the rumor about
the health care policy that we just talked
about.
Well, I guess we'll find out if they're
right sooner rather than later when we hear
the president's decision.
So for now, Director of the White House
National Economic Council, that's your title today.
Kevin Hassett, thank you so much.
So I believe, again, if he doesn't mess
something, he doesn't say something stupid, he'll be
the next Fed chairman.
He's going to bring interest rates down.
Now, not that it's just him alone, but
he can spin.
He can do a lot of work on
that.
And then add to that, I don't have
a clip because, of course, why would anyone
report on it?
The Genesis Project, did you hear about this?
Maybe.
It's the executive order the president signed and
in essence said, OK, Department of Energy, you
are now in charge of AI.
Make AI.
Oh, no, I did not hear this.
Oh, yeah.
It's like AI, everything AI.
Excuse me.
It makes sense.
You know, the DOE is responsible for Area
52, 54, 59, whatever the hell it is.
51.
Yeah.
Well, a buddy of mine works there in
this area.
No, in the Department of Energy.
It's massive.
So Department of Energy, what do you need
for AI?
Energy, lots of energy.
Oh, that makes sense.
So this is your bailout.
If we can't afford it because you can't,
we cannot have the markets.
We can't have the AI bubble pop here.
Not yet.
We can't.
No, this will be.
It's going to pop.
No, it's going to pop, but it can't
pop for at least until 2027.
We got to keep this thing going.
So the Department of Energy will.
I think it can hang in there for
that long.
They have to.
They have to.
Because our GDP depends on it.
The Mag 7, this is all AI nonsense.
And so if investors lose their appetite and
it's all about data centers and energy companies,
Department of Energy, hello.
These guys will be throwing down small nuclear
reactors, faster than anybody can say it.
Whatever we need, we're going to do it.
We cannot have any problems there.
And this guy comes in.
Well, it should give us cheaper energy for
the public at large.
It should.
It should.
Operative word should.
And then let me get these clips out
because there's one more little element, I think,
at play.
And this will be the best I can
do for today.
I can play them in the second half
of the show, but I don't think so.
This is the homeless stuff.
And I want to, it's four clips.
I want to see if you can figure
out the subtext.
You probably will, because I did.
But you might or might not.
But I think it's part of the laundry
list of things like universal ID or digital
ID, digital money, and some other things.
I believe to be PBS took it on,
but it underlies, I think, another one of
these subtext ops.
The skyrocketing cost of living has left millions
of people working at full-time jobs or
a number of part-time jobs still unable
to afford a place to live.
Ali Rogin is back with her conversation with
journalist Brian Goldstone, author of There Is No
Place For Us about this growing nationwide crisis.
Thank you so much for joining us.
In your work, you've come to know many
people who work, who may have more than
one job, but have come into circumstances where
they cannot afford to keep a roof over
their heads.
Certainly, each person has a unique story, but
are there any common threads in their experiences
that you've been able to identify?
Trump.
Is not Trump?
No.
Trump, it's Trump.
This common thread is Trump.
We'll find out in the next clip.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, I do argue in my book
that in cities across America today, in one
city after another, a low-wage job really
is homelessness waiting to happen.
And what they have in common is they
all belong to the low-wage workforce.
And it's not just that their wages are
too low to keep up with the skyrocketing
cost of having a place to live.
It's also that the jobs themselves have become
increasingly volatile and precarious, where they often don't
know how many hours they're going to be
getting from one week to the next.
Their employers give them 29 hours a week
because at 30, they would be eligible for
basic benefits like health insurance or sick leave.
And yeah, the cost of housing, rents are
just very, very quickly outpacing what their incomes
are.
So that's kind of the backdrop that defines
these people's existence.
For a long time, the stereotypical perception of
homelessness is that it is something that happens
to people on the fringes of society.
And that may have never been accurate, but
what have you found out in your reporting
about the reality of what it's like to
be without a home?
Yeah, I mean, one really astonishing truth about
homelessness in America is that what we see
on the street is really the tip of
the iceberg.
There's this entire world of homelessness that is
out of sight, that has been rendered invisible.
And within that shadow realm of homelessness, as
I refer to it, it is overwhelmingly populated
with people, again, who are part of the
low-wage workforce, families with children.
And these are people who are working and
working and working some more.
And it simply is not enough to secure
one of life's most basic necessities, a roof
overhead.
Universal basic income, is that where this is
going?
Did I nail it?
Oh, yeah.
Here we go.
Let me just say a couple of things.
First of all, this is the hardest thing
to sell to the American public because it's
a form of redistribution of wealth.
Yes.
And so this began with Hands Across America
in 1986.
Oh my goodness, I remember that.
And so we're at the 40-year mark.
And listening to this guy talk about homelessness
as just being all about low wages and
couldn't quite crank it over the hump kind
of thing, which brings to mind universal basic
income.
I thought you might even catch it from
the first clip, but you caught it earlier.
I was hoping you wouldn't get it at
all.
But it's wishful thinking.
Wait, he has to bring in AI, that
AI is going to take everyone's job away.
No, they don't do any of that because
this is a sales pitch for universal basic
income, even though they never mentioned it.
But I'm going to mention an anecdote.
Mimi drove down from Washington and she made
a point of telling the story.
There's all these little places you can pull
over to rest spots.
It's called a rest stop.
Next rest stop, 15 miles, this is your
shot.
Yeah, you go in there.
So she says there's all the way down
through Washington State, all the rest stops.
She stops a lot, she's got a couple
of dogs.
And nobody, the places were dead empty, dead
empty.
And all the ones in California, dead empty.
Oregon, every one of them from the top
to the bottom were favelas.
Not small favelas, 300, 400 people, tents, camping,
no place to park, no place to rest.
There was no way of doing it, a
rest stop.
Oregon has turned all their rest stops into
homeless encampments.
Well, first of all, sadly, this is the
state, the state of what's happening.
And people, I mean, you need $28 an
hour to even be considered to be allowed
to get a rental unit, which is a
little bit on the high side.
So I'm just recognizing how sad this really
is.
But yeah, yeah, favelas, yeah, your favorite.
Yeah, but a true favela should be on
the side of a hill.
If it's any good, if it's any good.
The ones that I still see, the sign
says South San Francisco, it's on the side
of a hill, and it's empty, it's barren,
it would be a great favela.
It would add an impact to people driving
into San Francisco, because you couldn't miss it,
you'd see it.
It'd be a- And so you're going
into San Francisco, you see the big favela.
Tourist attraction.
And it's a shanty town, basically.
And it would give you an indication of
what's going on.
You've been calling for this for years.
You've been saying we need favelas for years.
Yeah, I have.
Because you can actually create a living with
neighborhoods, gangs.
They end up being run by criminals.
Criminals.
But they're still well run.
They're managed well.
Typically, or they'd be burning down.
They don't get burnt down.
I mean, Detroit got burned down in the
late 60s.
How bad was that managed?
If the city's not managed well, it gets
burnt to the ground by the citizens.
And this doesn't happen in the favelas.
In a good favela.
In a good favela.
You know, it's sick, but true.
Okay, let's go to three.
To be sure, in the richest nation on
the planet, nobody should be without housing.
But these pernicious myths and stereotypes that homelessness
is just caused by addiction or it's just
caused by mental illness, it really is not
borne out by the reality on the ground.
And indeed, often mental illness and addiction is
a consequence of this form of insecurity, not
its cause.
Can you tell us a little bit about
what the lives of the homeless workers are
day in and day out?
And also, do those lives get harder during
the holidays?
I think it's really easy for...
What kind of a question is that?
So, you're homeless.
Is it worse during the holidays?
Yes!
Wow, that's just dumb.
She's a stupid person.
Do those lives get harder during the holidays?
I think it's really easy for terms like
the housing crisis or the homelessness crisis to
become kind of abstract and to lose touch
with just the acute human toll of this
growing catastrophe in America.
You know, what homelessness looks like today isn't
just the person sleeping outside the parking lot
of a convenience store or a Walmart or
a Target.
It's often the very cashier or worker stocking
the shelves in those stores.
And they often have children at the end
of their shifts.
They don't know where they're going to be
going.
They have to tell their children, I don't
know where we're staying tonight.
Maybe they're sleeping in a car in that
very parking lot.
Okay.
What is the closer here?
What are they going to do?
This is all just a softening blows.
There's no mention of universal basic income at
all in these clips.
But that's so apparent to me and you,
obviously, that this is messaging to create the
environment for it.
And I think because we're going to hit
the 40-year mark next year when this
became like a topic of conversation beginning in
1986.
Was Hands Across America?
What was the cause?
Homelessness.
It was homelessness?
It was specifically homelessness.
You can look it up.
In fact, I think I met the guy,
this Kagan character who started it at a
Berkeley dinner in 86 just before he did
it.
And I didn't realize he is also the
guy that produced We Are The World, I
think.
Oh, really?
Yeah, he was.
But that was for Africa.
Yeah, but then he turned his sights on
this Hands Across America bit.
And I remember him discussing it at the
table and I just thought it was daft.
And it wasn't going to work.
Daft.
It was crazy, nuts.
Daft.
I like daft.
Daft.
But it was marked the beginning of this
whole 40-year cycle of softening up the
public for, look, maybe this will do it.
Maybe this will fix the problem.
Ken Kragen?
Yeah, you're right.
Ken Kragen.
Yeah, he did We Are The World.
Huh.
Yeah, he did Hands Across America.
Yeah, for hunger and homelessness.
Yeah, all right.
All right, number four.
You know, there's a term that public health
experts use to refer to the kind of
stress that children and parents are exposed to
in these circumstances.
And that term is toxic stress.
This is stress that is so chronic, so
debilitating that it can fundamentally alter a child's
long-term development.
That is the human toll of this insecurity.
And it is the consequence.
It's the toll of what has happened when
millions, not hundreds of thousands, but millions of
families in this country have been flung into
what a case manager in my book refers
to as the housing hunger games.
You've cited a number of deficiencies across all
sorts of categories that are failing people.
But what institutions here need to change?
Is this a failure of government, of industry,
all of the above?
How do you see it?
Yeah, I think it is all of the
above.
What I found in my reporting in the
course of kind of immersing myself in the
day-to-day lives of five families here
in Atlanta where I live over a period
of nearly six years, it's not just the
housing system which prioritizes profits above all else.
It's not just work and jobs and wages
that aren't keeping up with the cost of
living.
It's also other systems like healthcare, a lack
of affordable childcare, the education system, food insecurity.
All of these systems sort of collide to
make this human disaster not just possible but
in many ways predictable and inevitable.
In the capitalist system, because obviously the people
who were homeless and hungry in the 80s
with hands across America, that eventually swings around,
gets solved, like is happening right now in
Austin, Texas, where homes that were purchased in
2022 are now 20% cheaper than they
were then because everyone's leaving.
It's not what they wanted.
All the tech firms are firing people.
These people would just transient anyway.
And of course, there's less illegal immigrants.
So these will go up for rent and
that will be more affordable.
Is that not kind of how the system
works eventually?
To a point, except for the one missing
factor here, which is the national takeover of
as many houses as possible by Blackstone and
BlackRock.
Yes, yeah.
Those guys are buying up houses left and
right and they pay top dollar and they
get these places.
And I think the idea is they know
universal basic income is coming.
They know people will be renting.
They can have the houses under their umbrella
and they will be renting out at not
necessarily top dollar but good profitable monies.
Best price.
And this is all part of a grand
scheme.
And I think BlackRock and Blackstone are very
much behind a universal basic income.
It's no, as you'd say, it's no sweat
off their balls.
Well, that kind of goes along with the
news that Coinbase is doing a pilot in
New York called Future First, a basic income
test with low income New Yorkers aged 18
to 30.
They will be giving them a total of
$12,000 in stablecoin.
Yeah.
Which they then can use to pay directly
with stablecoin.
Even the No Agenda Show takes USDC if
you want to support us.
And you can, of course, convert it into
other cryptos and into currencies.
So these tests are underway again.
But interesting now that it's Coinbase doing this,
who is going to be a big player
in the stablecoin gambit.
So I think you're right.
I think this is a setup.
It still has something to do with stablecoin.
Now that we have the Genius Act passed,
it's all going to start uncloaking in the
coming year.
And then regarding digital ID, man, Australia, they
just shut down everything.
Social media, including YouTube, you got to be
13 or older.
I think it's 16, actually.
16 or older, no social media for you.
Accounts are being closed.
The EU, they're not messing around.
When you listen to this lady talking about
the EU just voted in a, well, they
voted in favor of a non-legislative report.
So it's not legislation, but it will be.
This is the setup for minimum age for
social media.
And it's all tied to a digital ID.
Just listen to how she explains it.
First and foremost, we need to create an
environment online, on the social media and in
video games, et cetera, that if kids and
young people should be there, it needs to
be much safer than it is today.
And one of the ways we can make
it safer is to say that we will
ban the most addictive and harmful design features
we see online.
The thing that makes us scroll and scroll,
I mean, the kids scroll and scroll and
it's very difficult for them to put down
the phone.
We are not controlling the algorithms.
The algorithms, they are controlled outside EU, in
the United States, in China.
We want to control the people.
In the Middle East, but not in Europe.
So we don't know.
And our kids are being formed by these
algorithms in their approach to each other, to
commercial things, to how we interact, to democracy,
et cetera, et cetera.
By the way, our kids are being formed
the same way, lady, that just as retarded
as your kids.
And that's really a huge experiment and we
need to stop it.
We need to end that now.
And here we go.
One of the ways we can do that
is by saying, well, we need to have
an age limit and that age limit needs
to be controlled so that we can make
sure that at least the social media we
know today, that it is not possible to
access them until you are at least 13.
We're saying 16 years old.
And then if you want to go online
before you need to have your parents consent,
we want to avoid a fragmented internal market.
And that's why we suggest a harmonized EU
age limit and give some systems that could
be used to check it.
But for us, it's very important.
For the parliament, it is very important that
the systems that would check the age needs
to be privacy preserving.
It needs to be accurate and it needs
to be robust.
And we will give you these systems.
We will give you the systems to check
your ID.
This is coming.
They're going all in.
With their digital euro coming in 2027.
I think it's inevitable.
It is.
It is.
There's no other way.
The internet brought it to us.
Thank you, internet.
You know, I have this one clip and
it kind of gives me hope in a
way.
But the thing is, when we say the
internet, all people think about is the stupid
phone, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, X, BlueCry, blah, blah,
blah.
Well, they must realize that we, as you
say those words, we're doing this over the
internet.
And we're not on a platform.
Although I did sign us up for Spotify.
Okay, well, you stay.
Okay.
You can do that.
It's an experiment that's waiting to see what,
so we can, it's an experiment that I
think is worth doing.
Yeah, well, that's why we agreed I would
do that.
And this was to see, okay, we're still,
they're still processing our show, which I think
means they're not even going to let us
on.
Yeah, yeah, you got music.
You got music.
You got music in there.
You can't be honest.
People just have never been educated and understand
that you don't need to use Microsoft's Windows
or Mac.
You know, you can build a Linux machine
out of piece of crap hardware.
It'll probably work better than your Windows 11
machine.
That you can create your own website or
your, there's so many different ways to communicate
and to express your feelings, your, I mean,
Mastodon, set up a Mastodon server if you
want to.
You can do that.
Fediverse.
Fediverse.
There's all kinds of ways where people are
so, so bought into this is, this is
it.
This is the system.
And this is the internet, baby.
This is it.
But it's got my chat bots, my AI.
They are, they don't understand that the network
itself is the beautiful thing.
And the whole reason that podcasting the way
we do it, no one can really stop
us from doing that.
I mean, even if, you know, somehow they,
they, they went in, kidnapped void zero and
pulled all the plugs.
We're still on IPFS podcasting.net, which is
completely distributed.
There's no way you can get rid of
us.
There's, you know, you have the TOR network.
There's all kinds of ways that we can
communicate that the government really can't do anything
about.
No government can really do.
Apaches?
Yeah, Apache helicopter.
They can stop us both.
Well, okay.
Yes, they could stop us with Apaches, but
they got to have a lot of Apaches
to stop everybody.
And there's this Jen Zetter who I caught
on Tik Tok.
I'll admit I'm bringing in a Tik Tok
clip.
Oh, okay, poacher.
You're being mean to me now.
You're calling me names.
Poacher.
Poacher.
I'm the pod father of the poacher.
And I'm in one way happy about this,
on the other hand, a little sad, but
she's finally realizing that all these platforms suck.
Nothing feels authentic anymore because everything is an
ad.
This week I've been writing about having ad
fatigue.
I have 29,916 unread marketing emails.
When I go to watch a YouTube video,
I have to watch three ads every five
minutes.
Pinterest and Instagram is just one big sponsored
post now.
Every time a video goes viral, a major
corporation is in the top comments acting like
they're a Gen Z intern.
Black Friday is somehow a month long and
nothing's actually on sale.
It just feels like around every corner now,
there is an ad lurking, waiting to capitalize
off our attention, waiting to capitalize off of
any real or genuine moment.
The boundaries between human being and brand have
become so blurred that it's difficult to distinguish
between the two.
Brands act like people online.
People act like brands online.
Influencers are people, but they're also living, breathing
ads.
Celebrities are also influencers and also brands as
well.
And regular people want to be influencers so
they will give recommendations and tag brands for
free in order to one day be able
to do a real ad.
The internet is really the wild west of
marketing.
There is really infinite space to squeeze ads
into.
Our data is being bought and sold to
hell and back just to pelt us with
marketing.
Sometimes it feels as though we've signed a
deal with the devil in order to use
these things for free.
And now we will just have to spend
the rest of our lives being marketed to.
But now somehow on top of that, we
also have to pay subscription fees as well.
You want to hear more?
Cause she goes on for a bit here.
She's on a roll.
Yeah, she's good.
And online, everyone and everything can eventually be
bought.
The unspoken goal of the internet is to
reach monetization.
Anything that reaches viral success or started off
as like a genuine thing that people loved
and enjoyed.
She's not, she hasn't quite gotten to the,
wait a minute, maybe I'm the product here.
She hasn't quite heard that one.
Eventually we'll try to sell you something.
At some point, everything becomes a vehicle for
brands to sponsor or for celebrities to come
on and promote something.
And a lot of the times the platforms
that we once genuinely enjoyed using, like Pinterest,
Instagram, TikTok, YouTube become so clogged up with
ads that it starts to feel like there
are more ads than actual content.
See, this is where it goes wrong.
This is because it's free, free.
It's all free.
It's just free.
The internet is free.
No one ever taught these kids that there
is no free lunch.
Ain't no free lunch, kid.
I understand that we need ads to pay
for things, but it reaches a certain point
where it actually starts to interfere with the
original purpose of the thing.
No, no, the original purpose was always to
use your data to make money.
And the end result is, I think it's
just reached a point where it's infiltrated all
of our culture and all of our lives.
Musicians just feel like marketing projects now.
We have respected actors doing Deliveroo ads and
starting liquor companies.
Movies and TV shows start to feel like
excuses for product placement and IP.
And it's made everything feel like there's an
ulterior motive because there is.
But the irony of it all is, I
don't remember the last time an ad actually
worked on me.
If anything, if I notice that a brand
emails me too much or it shows up
too much on my social media, I actually
start to resent them.
I buy most of my stuff secondhand because
honestly, a lot of new stuff is just
crap.
Like the quality is really bad because I
think these companies spent all their budget on
marketing.
So maybe if everything is an ad, then
nothing is actually an ad.
Because honestly, I've just become so overwhelmed by
the amount of people that are trying to
make money off me that I'm just kind
of numb to it all.
Ah, I'm happy and yet sad somehow.
I'm not quite sure why.
Well, she's got some note of realization.
I don't know if she, you're right.
She hasn't figured out that she's the product
in many cases.
No one taught her this.
Or the no free lunch thing.
What do you expect?
Yeah.
Listen to your uncles, Adam and John.
We boomers know a thing or two.
We've seen enough ads in our life.
We've created them too.
And that's one of the reasons we don't
have ads on this show.
We are value for value.
And that is my cue to say, I'd
like to thank you for your courage.
The man who put the sea and can't
afford the rent.
Say hello to my friend on the other
end.
The one, the only Mr. John C.
DeMora.
Hello, I'm DeMora.
It's good to see you today.
Currently, we have a bunch of graffiti in
the air, subs in the water.
And all the dames and knights out there.
In the morning to the trolls in the
troll room.
Stop moving around.
Let me catch you.
Oh, actually surprising.
1,907 for a Thanksgiving weekend.
That's not too bad.
I'm surprised.
I'm very surprised.
Although we'll whip right through the donations.
That's for sure.
Yeah, there's no donations.
Nobody gave us any donations.
All we got is a bunch of ads,
man.
We got no donations.
We got plugs.
Everyone's got a plug.
Ah, speaking of plugs, I have something to
say.
You're getting hair plugs finally.
No, no, no, no, no.
So I was very against the Warren was
Senator Elizabeth Warren bull crap over the air
over the counter hearing aids.
Oh, yes, yes, totally.
And the main reason is I feel that
you need they're not hearing aids and they're
not done by an audiologist.
You need it.
You need an audiologist to help you set
it up.
And I my hearing, although it got much,
much better after my oral surgery, my hearing
just as I'm just as I'm aging out,
bro.
I'm just I'm aging out.
And so my hearing is not good enough.
And, you know, before you know it, Tina's
not going to talk to me anymore because
I don't answer.
So you can't hear her.
What?
Yeah, exactly.
And so I decided to try something new
because my previous Y decks were very expensive.
Those were like over $5,000.
Now, this is probably seven years ago, I
think eight years ago that I got those.
So I decide based on a tip from
my friend to try out Jabra.
And the reason I was OK trying out
Jabra one, they've been around for a long
time.
They've been doing, you know, phone connections, mobile
headsets for cheese for longer than for as
long as the show's been around, I think.
Remember the Jabra headset, the one of the
first with that stick stick microphone next to
your mouth that was the Jabra guys.
And they have created an behind the ear
with a little wire with a little receiver
going into your ear.
And they give you three years of audiology
appointments.
So and that's built into the price, which
is a big deal to you, which I
think that's a valid commentary.
So I was like, OK.
And and the price $1,600 with a
100 day money back guarantee.
So I'm like, what do I have to
lose?
These things are amazing.
I mean, absolutely amazing.
And I have just been enjoying my life
so much with these with these hearing aids.
They are proper hearing aids.
Don't go for anything else because people always
ask me what hearing aids.
These things are fantastic.
Now I'm not getting paid by them.
I paid for my hearing aids.
But but this is what we do when
we love a product.
We'll talk about it.
If we don't, we'll talk about it, how
crappy it is.
Amazing.
My life has changed.
It has.
So wait a minute.
You are giving nothing but grief to Elizabeth
Warren and her.
Her.
Yes.
Her being behind the changing of the definition
of a hearing aid, basically what we're talking
about.
Yes.
To a listening, you know, listening enhancing device.
Oh, they're all here.
Everything is a hearing aid now.
And so you could sell these things over
the counter without anybody helping you or anything.
And now you're changing.
I am changing your tune.
I am.
The first few years was horrible.
And, you know, she got the big money
from Bose and Bose has yet to come
out with anything worthwhile.
I track this stuff all the time.
And this miracle ear.
No, no.
I mean, no, no, no, no.
I don't see any of that being any
good.
But when I saw these like, OK, I
know Jabra.
I've had Jabra headsets, the audiology three years
of a point.
I like, yeah, OK, this is now you're
talking something different.
And this is high tech stuff.
It's and I learned about Oracast.
Have you ever heard of Oracast?
I have heard of them.
So Oracast.
So normally, if you so if you pair
these these hearing aids to a modern smartphone,
which you can easily do, it's Bluetooth.
It's low energy Bluetooth.
And but that's just, you know, it's just
you and no one else can tap into
that, obviously.
Oracast is I don't know when this came
into being, but my new television happens to
have it.
It's basically a transmitter that anybody can tap
into.
And they apparently are sending, you know, the
people are placing these Oracast transmitters everywhere and
you can connect to it right away.
Boom, you're done.
You don't need passwords, no pairing, none of
that stuff.
So you can listen to LG sets all
have these features.
Yes.
And it's been fantastic, which is why we
promoted the set, even though we got grief,
we got grief.
Well, Mimi and one kid, how can you
be promoting a thousand?
You're always having cheap products.
The next thing you know, you get a
thousand dollar television set.
You're saying is good.
That was pretty cheap.
It was what it is.
What it is.
My first TV in 13 years.
I used to have to pay two twenty
five hundred bucks for a PC.
Yeah, really.
Anyway, back to the Jabras.
Even if you don't have hearing loss, these
things are amazing because you can get the
clothes domes.
So you plug them in your ear.
It is just like having over the ear
headsets on all the time that you can
completely control the sound.
But I'm a sound freak, so I love
the sound.
You're using them as we speak instead of
cans?
No, I did.
No, because the cans don't work with the
hearing aids, but I did order.
It's like I said, instead of the can.
No, no, because I need an Oracast transmitter.
It's like thirty five bucks off of Amazon.
So hopefully it'll come in before Thursday.
I can try it out because it's the
same concept.
You're going to be uncomfortable without the cans.
Well, maybe, maybe not.
But I'll tell you something.
I can hear my wife.
I can hear in the kitchen all the
way from the studio.
There's a downside to everything.
Well, the downside is I'm speaking much softer
in person.
Oh, you're not screaming.
Exactly.
She said, did you hear me?
I said, yeah, I said, I'm coming.
So now she can't hear me.
So now I'll have to get her some
jobbers.
Anyway, what?
Anyway, I don't know how I got to
that.
Other than we're talking about ads and value
for value.
It's a good product, very, very good value.
It's worth it for your ears, particularly for
men, because there's number one cause of depression
and isolationism is when you can't hear properly.
You can take that little hearing test on
the website.
It's pretty decent.
Yeah.
So.
Whether you're using hearing aids or not, you
should be listening to us on a modern
podcast app because it doesn't look like Spotify
is going to approve us.
I don't think we're actually in there yet.
Says processing.
I've been doing it for 24 hours.
Now they're getting picky.
OK, well, good.
We can say, well, they refuse to take
our feed.
Yes, our feed, our open feed, man.
Yeah.
However, you can use a modern podcast app,
which will give you all kinds of cool
features.
And even Podverse actually is built for accessibility.
So if you have vision problems, Podverse does
a very good job of that.
But there's many more to be found at
podcastapps.com.
As part of the value for value system,
we take time, talent and treasure in return
for the valuable service that we provide.
And we have a lot of people who
used to work really hard at creating creating
artwork for us.
Now people just prompt away and consider it
done.
Like, oh, I don't have to donate.
I prompted a little bit and gave him
some art.
No, not really the way it works.
But we do want to thank Jock10, J
-O-Q-10, who brought us the artwork
for episode 1820.
We titled that Tokyo Rose.
And this was, I think, the best one
for Thanksgiving that we could find.
Abraham Lincoln carving a turkey with an American.
This was basically your pick, which I couldn't
argue against.
Yeah, you didn't agree, but you couldn't argue
against it.
I didn't like, I mean, I wish we
had something better, but it was cute.
It had an Indian.
I don't know what the point, you know,
there's an Indian ready to kill Lincoln.
I don't know what the reason for that
was, but.
Yeah, you know, there wasn't a lot of
things.
I mean, everyone did some Thanksgiving stuff.
Yeah, but they were all lame.
They weren't really good.
No, so I don't think we even contemplated
anything else, did we?
Oh, yeah, we contemplated Jeffrey Ria's 3D soup
can, but you might want to talk about
the technical issues we had with it.
Yeah, now he's going to get irked by
this.
He had the curvature mapped on, you know,
not perfectly, but pretty good for like for
no agenda and Curry and DeVore kind of
wraps around the can like it, you know,
like it would be for a can.
Except the word con drum, whatever they do,
any wrapping whatsoever.
And what does it even mean?
And why is it on the can?
We don't know.
Is it supposed to be conundrum?
That's a different word.
I don't know.
And it wasn't wrapped, so it wasn't wrapped.
Yeah, it was too bad.
Anyway, thank you very much.
Jock 10 no agenda.
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I think it takes tougher guys than us.
Yeah, it probably does.
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I think I got that right.
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So lots of lucky numbers in there.
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You've been de-douched.
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Jobs, karma, please.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
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It's the Lightning Network.
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On the chain, yes.
Oh, so this is a thank you donation.
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Oh, there's Christopher Gray from Mount Ockham, California.
242.
Saturday was the official shop small business day
at Little John's.
We strive to deliver on big flavor with
small business values.
And I have to say, we went to
the P.O. Box.
We got the box in good order.
Beautiful.
You're right, John.
Those chocolate turkeys are amazing.
And the toffees and the...
Is that their...
Do they sell that olive oil?
Or did they just...
I have no idea.
They got it from local businesses.
Thank you so much.
Tina and I really appreciate it.
Christopher continues, no AI, no robotics or machinery
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Wow.
We've got people promoting each other's products.
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This makes my heart full.
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Well, that will include a chocolate goat.
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We need a rancher, man.
We need a rancher.
A rancher needs to come in.
Yeah, I would like to see a rancher.
Yeah.
I got a note from one of our
producers like, you know, I looked at getting
ground beef, you know, and it's twice as
expensive as Whole Foods.
And I went to beefmaps.com and I
said, well, here's one that's within driving distance
of where you are in Tampa, Florida.
And it's 10 pounds of ground beef for
$105.
I doubt that's twice as expensive as Whole
Foods.
She was amazed.
She was amazed.
And you can do a lot with ground
beef.
Consider that.
It is a good way to feed your
family healthy food and at a best price.
And with the end of our executive and
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Short and sweet today.
Short and sweet.
Yeah, very short.
For the Thanksgiving holiday.
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We work for peanuts.
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Again, congratulations to these producers of episode 1821.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the
mouth.
Shut up, you.
What up?
What up?
Shut up, slave.
Shut up, slave.
How about a TikTok clip?
Okay.
How can I say no?
I can't.
Two clips here.
I got the...
I got...
This is actually a black woman.
Although her voice is not that of what
you'd think is black, but this is a
woman making a good point about being cis.
Cis?
Yes, like a cisgender.
I'm cisgender.
Okay.
Okay.
Yes, cis.
Not a cis woman.
I'm a woman.
Yes.
You say trans women are women, but then
women become cis women as if we're a
subtype of our own sex.
That's right.
And then you have the audacity to drag
the very women that you're trying to emulate.
How is that not the most misogynistic, patriarchal,
logic imaginable?
How is it that my identity suddenly just
needs a prefix?
Why do women have to shift their language,
their boundaries, their spaces so everyone else can
feel comfortable except actual woman?
If a woman says, hey, I'm not comfortable
with this, suddenly she's the problem?
I don't need a new label to describe
what I've always been.
Like, like.
Right on, Cisa.
Great.
I'm going to comment.
You're so good.
Yeah.
Great, great channel you've got.
Great TikTok.
Oh, you're a good TikToker.
Yeah.
You made me feel good.
Good performance.
Well, then we take it to the other
extreme.
Oh, are we going to play two TikTok
clips?
Oh, yeah.
Here's the other extreme.
This is the idiot billionaires.
I have an idea.
How about some of our billionaires get together
and offer to buy back assault weapons or
semi-automatic weapons?
And since they have so much money, they
can give the money to the gun owners
and then melt down the weapons.
I don't know if you've noticed a lot
of the billionaires that were very tired of
hearing about, you know, they don't really do
much for philanthropy.
They just like hoard their wealth.
Oh, yeah.
Maybe this would be a good way for
them to solve a problem which leads to
the number one cause of death in children,
which, of course, is gun violence.
No, I think vocal fry is the number
one cause of death amongst podcasters.
There is no billionaire, I know a few,
who hoard their money at all.
No, no, absolutely not.
But you said it, sister.
That's great.
Nice, nice performance.
Let's do a little climate change news.
In this case, EVs.
2026 is the end of the government subsidies
for electric vehicles.
The EV market says it's going to be
great.
Now, I'm thinking, yeah, if you want a
cheap car with a dead battery, listen to
these prices, what happens in just two years
to the value of your electric vehicle.
As the clock ticked on the expiration of
EV tax credits in September, there was a
wave of last minute buyers.
Since then, new electric auto sales across the
board have plummeted nearly 50% last month.
I think in the next probably six months,
the market will get stabilized and really trying
to find that balance of what's that natural
demand for EVs.
Stephanie Valdez-Streete is a director for Cox
Automotive, which provides marketing data for the automotive
industry.
I think the used EV market is the
bright star.
For example, new Rivian trucks can cost north
of $100,000, but you can get a
used one for south of 60 grand.
A new Tesla Model Y averages around $50
,000, but 2024s can be found for around
30,000.
She says currently EVs only account for about
2.5% of the overall used vehicle
sales market.
But she says since 2023, 1.1 million
EVs have been leased and many will expire
soon.
That surge of expiring leases is bringing used
prices down and allowing for big bargains.
I think it's gonna be a huge opportunity
and huge growth in the next few years.
Valdez-Streete says wider EV adoption has been
hindered by price, battery concerns and trepidation about
an insufficient charging infrastructure.
But she stresses batteries are really good and
warranties are robust.
Oh, they're good.
That technology will only improve and likely bring
costs down even further, especially in the new
car sales markets.
And so the next- What, what, what,
what, what?
What was the logic there?
That things have resale value that goes down
drastically, but somehow it's not going, it's-
It's gonna be better.
It's gonna be better?
It's gonna be better.
Here's that tale.
That technology will only improve and likely bring
costs down even further, especially in the new
car sales markets.
And so the next 27, 2028, we're gonna
see some more affordable EVs hit the market.
Yeah.
Everyone's gonna be dumping these things.
Yeah, from BYD.
Yeah, well, can they- Some of those
BYD cars look fantastic, but they're made like
crap.
They're glued together.
The BYD car is inexpensive.
Yes.
And yeah, it probably doesn't hold up, or
maybe it does, but they've got some of
the fanciest cars Yeah.
Anybody owns.
Are you gonna buy one?
No, I miss electric.
The battery.
You're basically buying a dead battery.
That's the problem.
The battery.
And you have to lug the battery around.
It's not like a gasoline car.
As it drives around, it gets lighter and
lighter.
It gets lighter.
You know what is cool though?
They're finally figuring out for all of-
Because every day, someone sends me an email.
Look at this.
The flying car is finally here.
I'm like, oh, that looks cool.
There's always a flying car.
You look at it and it's like range.
You can fly for 20 minutes at 50
miles an hour.
Okay.
So I can't get to Austin with that.
But there's a couple of them now.
Let alone get back.
The couple of them now are figuring out
the hybrid model.
We are using electric motors for propellers and
actually placing them in front of a wing.
So you're blowing back air.
So these things can take off like five
feet.
And then they have a little jet engine
in it or something that runs similar.
That sounds cheap.
No, it's very small.
All it has to do is just send
electricity to the battery and then from the
battery into the propellers.
These things, they're talking about two hours at
130 miles an hour.
So now you're talking.
That's got to go for 150 or higher.
Oh no, no, no.
You know, no, you can invest now.
Or 250.
Pre-order now.
Yeah, sure.
Pre-order and invest.
I think maybe in five years we might,
because it's absolutely true.
The electric motors, there's a lot, you know,
the whole concept of it is good.
It's just, we don't have any batteries.
So as long as you throw in some
kind of energy source that runs on, you
know, gasoline, jet fuel, anything like that.
This is one guy though, he made a,
it's like a flying egg.
It's like a pod.
And it was going to go for like
a little over a hundred thousand dollars.
And it's just a one seater and has
all these propellers on top.
And it's supposed to be able to go,
I think they were saying radius a hundred
miles.
I'm like, well, that's kind of cool.
And the guy was going to fly over
the English channel from England to France, crashed
in the water.
The engines quit.
So he cracked up.
Yes.
Yes, there it is.
He cracked up.
Exactly.
I only have one more sequence here, which
is there's something up here.
Sources inside the Pentagon are reporting something just
horrible.
This is an attack on our Secretary of
War, Hegseth, and also another setup for the
impeachment.
What happened, John, this was the first strike
on what they say were suspected drug cartels
or drug dealers or people ferrying drugs to
the United States.
There was a first strike.
Most of the people on board that boat
were killed.
And then there was a second strike.
The administration released the footage of that first
strike, but never, as The Post reported, that
second strike.
And it's that second strike, they say, that
Secretary Pete Hegseth said, a spoken directive to
kill everybody.
Now, the special operations commander, according to The
Post, ordered that second strike based on direction
from Pete Hegseth.
But the questions are, did Pete Hegseth in
the moment, in real time, as they were
watching, say, go back and kill those survivors?
Because when you look at it, is that
an imminent threat?
Even if it's the legal justification the administration
is talking about, did those two men clinging
to the side of the boat pose an
imminent threat?
And that is the question.
And did it go back up the chain
of command?
Did the special operations commander say, wait, we
need the lawyers, we need somebody to look
at that?
Those are the questions.
Because the allegation here is that it violates
the rules of war to attack people that
are not an imminent threat.
Exactly, and the protocol was later changed because
we have since tried to rescue survivors.
So that's another question they'll be asking.
And it's important to point out that, according
to The Post story, Hegseth issued that order
before the first strike, say, kill everybody, and
the commander.
And that is why the question is, did
he go back to Pete Hegseth?
Because according to The Post, they were all
watching this in real time.
Where were you, Jonathan Karl?
Where were you when we were literally double
tapping Iraqis from helicopters on video released by
Snowden and...
Assange.
And Assange and the man who became a
woman.
What was his name?
Yeah, the woman guy.
Yes, from now known as that woman guy.
Where were you when we had actual evidence
of that happening?
You can probably still find that on YouTube.
Where were you then?
Yeah, good question.
Because there were...
And the cavalier chat from the helicopter, he
goes, hey, there's the guys, the journalists, let's
get him.
Yeah, Chelsea Manning, thank you.
They gunned him down from the sky from
a distance.
The man guy known as Chelsea Manning.
And that's not even talking about the double
taps, which were also like killing innocents.
Not only killing innocents, but people who came
to their rescue.
That's not mentioned either.
Nope.
And by the way, where's the tape of
Hegseth saying this or doing?
There's no evidence.
We have evidence of the other stuff.
We have sources.
Sources inside the Pentagon from the Washington Post
here, CBS.
This new Washington Post report that says that
Secretary Hegseth called for everyone aboard the first
suspected drug boat that was targeted to be
killed.
When two people survived, the military went back
in reportedly with a follow on strike.
What questions do you have for the Pentagon
about that situation?
Well, first, if that reporting is true, it's
a clear violation of the DOD's own laws
of war, as well as international laws about
the way you treat people who are in
that circumstance.
And so this rises to the level of
a war crime.
If it's true.
And the questions that we've been asking for
months are give us the evidence that the
folks on board were really narco traffickers.
In one instance, there were two survivors, one
Colombian, one Ecuadorian in a different strike.
Instead of arresting them and prosecuting them, the
US picked them up and returned them to
their countries of origin where they were released.
So if they were narco traffickers, why would
we do that?
We need more evidence about that.
And we definitely need the administration to finally
answer the question of why strike rather than
interdict.
If you know where the ships are, you
can interdict.
And when you do, you get evidence, you
get individuals, you can squeeze them to give
testimony against their higher ups.
You get evidence with the drug seizures.
And finally, the other question that my colleagues
and I are deeply worried about is the
entire legal rationale for these strikes.
We had to pry with a crowbar after
weeks and weeks out of the administration, the
supposed legal rationale for the strikes in international
waters.
It was very shoddy because it's classified.
I can't tell you what's in it, but
I can tell you it was not at
all persuasive that these are- Wait a
minute.
About that Senator Tim Kaine.
OK, so he has access to the actions.
And so together with a whole series of
things, the early retirement of the head of
South Com, the news that the South Com's
lead attorney said these strikes were not lawful.
The decision of allies like the UK to
stop sharing intelligence with the United States in
this area because they believe the strikes are
illegal.
It's time for Congress to rein in a
president who is deciding to wage war on
his own say so, which is not what
the Constitution allows.
And of course, they hate that they're blowing
up the drugs and possibly money to be
laundered.
They don't like any of that at all.
They continue.
On a related note, President Trump just announced
this weekend that he plans to pardon-
Who cares?
I do have- I have a Venezuelan
clip in the same vein.
I was going to play Kristi Noem's response
to the question about the double tap from
Hegseth.
Here it is.
There's a Washington Post report that one of
those Venezuelan boats that was attacked by a
US missile, alleged drug boats, that a second
missile was launched because there have been two
survivors clinging to the wreckage of the boat.
I know this was obviously carried out by
the Defense Department, but is the administration concerned
here that that may have violated the laws
of war?
I mean, was there an imminent threat-
Laws of war.
By those people that were clinging to the
wreckage of a boat that had already been
struck?
Is there a wiki page for the laws
of war?
I'll have to look that up.
Let's see where I can find that.
Yes, you can find it.
Yeah, you should know this.
That entire story is based on anonymous sources.
So we see the press, and we see
that reg use anonymous sources all the time
to print things that aren't true, that are
lies, that are completely not based in reality.
So I would not put any credibility to
that story, to what was said.
I have full faith and trust in this
president and in this government to do the
right thing to keep the American people safe.
And I'm so grateful at the amount of
work that has been done to stop those
deadly drugs from getting into our country.
Just in several offloads that we've been able
to interdict and to stop and to blow
up in the Caribbean Sea, it's been enough
to save over 45 million people.
45 million lethal doses were completely destroyed.
That people will now be safer because of
the work that the Department of War and
this president have done.
OK, thanks, Christy.
There is no, there is a wiki page
for law of war, part of the international
law that regulates the conditions for initiating war
and the conduct of hostilities.
Laws of war define sovereignty and nationhood, states
and territories, occupation, other critical terms of law,
de jure.
Declarations, acceptance of sovereignty.
You mean like within the boundaries of a
sovereign nation where the Obama administration kept blowing
things up within Pakistan and Afghanistan?
Yes.
Iraq, I think was another place.
Yes, that's what I mean.
That's exactly what I mean.
Interesting that nobody even brings that up.
I had the one little Venezuela rap clip.
It's an NPR.
Good to go.
After weeks of escalating tensions, President Trump increased
pressure on Venezuela today by declaring that the
nation's airspace should be considered closed, even though
he doesn't have the legal authority to close
it.
With a substantial U.S. military buildup in
the region, today's announcement fuels speculation about what's
next.
Earlier this week, Mr. Trump said his war
on drug smuggling would soon enter a new
phase.
In recent weeks, you've been working to deter
Venezuelan drug traffickers, of which there are many,
and we'll be starting to stop them by
land also.
The land is easier, but that's going to
start very soon.
We'd warn them, stop sending poison to our
country.
Since September, U.S. forces have struck nearly
two dozen boats alleged to be carrying drugs
in the Caribbean and the Eastern Pacific, killing
an estimated 80 people.
Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro says his country will
defend itself against any foreign threat.
I'm just going to wager that by land
means they're going to get that base going
in Guyana, which Venezuela has said they're claiming,
which is our oil because we have the
contract.
That's what I think on land means.
That could be.
I don't think he's going to send troops
into Venezuela, but I think that's what he
means.
We'll see.
I have one final thing that I just
wanted to mention.
It's hard to avoid the Candace Owens ongoing
red string diaries.
There's only, and I'm not going to wait.
She's stringing red yarn between all kinds of
different points.
OK.
And I don't listen to her show.
Well, so the one thing that she's like,
Egyptian Air Force jet came into Provo, Utah,
stayed there for an hour.
Interesting.
What were they doing?
Were they just getting gas or were they
dropping someone off?
This is in reference to Egyptian Air Force
operatives killing Charlie Kirk.
So I just.
God.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's a stretch.
Oh, no, it's then they turned off their
transponder and they first landed Air Force Base,
Air Minnow, which is a nuclear force base.
Yes.
I'd like to explain what the Egyptian Air
Force is doing landing in Minnow and then
going to Provo.
They're an Egyptian Air Force and it's Gulfstream.
I think they have a four and I
think they have a the tri engine.
Forget the name of it.
So they have they come from Paris.
They what?
It's a Ford.
It's not a Ford.
A Ford triplane.
Yeah, no, it's not.
No, it's a French aircraft.
No, but it's mainly the Gulfstreams.
So they fly from Paris to Minnow Airport
because they are a military outfit and they
get cleared into the U.S. and to
fly on to any other place through Minnow.
That's what Minnow is doing.
Why Provo?
Because Duncan Aviation is one of the is
only one of three premier Gulfstream maintenance shops.
You want to go to Duncan Aviation for
modifications, repairs, inspections, et cetera.
And they just so happen to have contracts
with the Egyptian military.
That's what they're doing in Provo, Utah.
So I just wanted to dispel one little
rumor.
Well, you're going to be you're going to
be digging a lot if you're going to
try to dispel all the stuff that she
puts out there.
I have nothing to dispel, but this one
I have.
I happen to know aviation.
So I'm like, oh, this is they're not
going to drop someone off to kill Charlie
Kirk.
They get in the toilet seat replaced.
Give me a break.
What is the Egyptians got to do with
Charlie Kirk?
Or why would they care?
Well, you got to watch.
You have to bring in a hitman from
Egypt.
Yes.
Are you kidding me?
Yes.
They had plenty in Rhode Island.
This is the level.
This is the level it's come to.
All right.
You got anything to leave or you want
to leave it at that?
It's like anything kind of funny.
There's the oh, yeah, this is just kind
of interesting.
This genetic pumpkin is a short clip.
And I just thought it was.
Sorry.
I just thought it was interesting that this
is how this is how you're getting these
giant pumpkins.
Ordiners across the globe attempt to claim the
title of the world's largest pumpkin.
It's a serious sport for many.
It's even created a bizarre online market for
seeds with outlandish genetics.
And they can cost quite a bit of
money.
One seed costs three hundred and forty nine
dollars per package.
I'm Anisa Khalifa.
And on this episode of the Broadside from
WNC, we explore the science, the glory and
the drama of competitive giant pumpkin growing.
Just Saturday, a new world record was established.
Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen pounds.
So that's about the size of a VW.
Only in America.
Wow.
Oh, my goodness.
We're nuts.
America, baby.
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We also have John's tip of the day
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You muted yourself.
So whatever you said, whatever funny quip you
had was completely missed.
And you're still muted.
Well, anyway, I guess Jon will come back
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In the meantime, let's take a look at
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Yes, yes, yes.
I muted myself because during the nighting and
then you go off to the meetings, it
gives me an opportunity to go to the
bathroom.
Normally I don't mute myself, but I did
this time because I also had to blow
my nose.
And every time I do that in the
mic, it sounds stupid.
So I muted myself and I don't see
any reason until after you're done that you
could call me out on it.
Well, Jon was having his own little private
meetup.
We'll talk about the public meetups that you
can find at noagendameetups.com.
We have a report.
This is the Wageningen meetup in the Netherlands.
Uh, there they sounds like they have some
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Hello.
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Putting the waitress on the spot there.
Thank you very much.
Sounds like you guys had a good time.
There is a meetup taking place today in
Goleta, California, the Goleta HGI rooftop meetup.
That's the 805 rooftop meetup.
It kicks off at four o'clock.
Dame Beth, maybe it's her own rooftop.
And on Thursday, oh, no, these are both
Thursday.
I'm sorry.
Not today.
Thursday.
Pre-St. Nicholas Day, or Thanksgiving.
Thanksgiving Part Deux.
Yes, December 5th is when St. Nicholas comes
in Holland.
And he puts candy in the kid's shoes.
And if the kid...
Doesn't he have some helpers with him?
Yes, he has the Black Pete's.
And if you've been a bad kid, they
stick you in a bag and they take
you back to Spain.
And this is very controversial because of it
being racist.
Racist.
No, Black Pete's are very racist because they're
Black and they're white people in Blackface.
And so now we have Rainbow Pete's.
We have Rainbow Pete's.
We don't have Black Pete's anymore.
Is that official?
Not official.
But if you walk around in Blackface as
a Black Pete, you'll get beat up.
By who?
By the Pete Patrol.
I don't know.
There's always riots going on about this.
There are always people demonstrating against the Black
Pete's.
They've been doing it for hundreds of years,
but okay.
So that's the pre-St. Nicholas Day Thanksgiving
Part Deux.
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Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
All righty then.
Before we get to the tip of the
day, we always want to check in with
some ISOs.
See what we can do.
This is a man against the machine is
what this is.
It's my ISOs against your AI stuff.
Your AI stuff.
This is just a matter of time.
Until what?
Until you cave.
I don't know if I'm going to cave.
You have the subscription.
You can do a lot of creative stuff
with 11 labs if you pay money.
Yeah.
Well, I'll give you some real ISOs.
I'll give you three months.
Okay.
Here's my first real one.
It doesn't get better than that.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
That's unusual.
Oh, that makes a whole lot of sense.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Interesting.
Not bad at all.
Yeah, I don't know.
Here's my final one.
This came down to the wire.
You don't like any of them?
Well, I like the second one.
And then the last one, I don't understand
what that's got to do with the price
of bread.
That makes a whole lot of sense.
That was the second one.
I think that was the second one.
I thought that was okay.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, let's see what you prompted.
What?
Let's go with best.
It's true.
These guys are the best of breed.
Okay.
Better.
The show just keeps getting better.
Yes.
And then man, oh, man.
Man, oh, man.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
What a podcast.
Yeah, that's probably the best one.
Can't you just use a different voice?
Okay.
I was waiting for this, of course.
You need a different voice.
No, no.
I'm telling you.
Here's the deal.
This is the voice I lost.
They took the voice away from me.
This is not a good voice.
It's lame.
I love this guy's voice.
This is Caleb Spuds, they call him, Spuds.
Anyone out there, you can look him up.
And so I lost the voice.
And so I got him back.
And I think I'm going to switch him
out again.
But I figured as soon as I switch
him out, I'm going to have to eventually
pay money for 11 laps.
And what's going to happen if I pay
money, that means I'm going to start sampling
my own voices.
And you're going to get Alex Jones.
And you're going to get Tucker.
And you're going to get all these different
kinds of things because I'll go nuts.
And I'm trying to avoid that.
You should be encouraging me to avoid it
because you know it's not going to be
a positive thing.
Okay.
Just so you know, if you want to
sample your own voice, it's more than $20.
You got to get a pro subscription.
And you can only sample one voice.
And you have to verify it's your voice.
You can't just feed a Tucker and make
it do Tucker.
So don't get all excited.
Well, wait a minute.
Ryan out there, who's sampled a lot of
voices, he's got everybody's voice.
I don't know who Ryan is.
Ryan's one of our producers who produced the...
He's the one who produced the Scott Simon
thing you play all the time.
Scott Honk Honk Simon.
Yeah.
And he's got Simon.
And he's got Scott Simon.
He's got a bunch of them.
He's got a whole list.
He sent me a laundry list of voices.
I've had a few sampled on there.
How did he do it?
So how's he doing?
I don't know.
Why are you asking me?
Ask your buddy.
I don't know.
I don't know anything.
He's using 11 labs.
What I do know is it's time for
John's tip of the day.
Okay, this is not a...
I think it's a great tip because I've
gone through these alarm clocks for years.
Alarm clock tip.
Alarm clock.
Not everybody needs one.
Some people just wake up.
How about your phone?
Oh, I'm not going to let a phone
be my alarm clock.
This is an alarm clock.
Yeah, the phone...
No.
So this is an FM radio alarm clock.
And it's got a temperature gauge.
It's got a battery backup.
The battery backup, which if your phone battery
goes dead, you don't have a battery backup.
Let me start with that.
Oh, we plug it in next to our
bed, man.
You got FM radio on that, dude?
The problem with a phone as your...
That means you have to answer the phone
at three in the morning.
No, you put it on silent.
Do not disturb.
By the way, does it have a shortwave
on that clock radio you have?
The cell phone is the Satan's tool.
I'm not going to disagree with you on
that point.
Yes, alarm clock.
Yes, it's called a DreamSky alarm clock radio
for bedrooms.
It's a small device.
It's dynamite.
It works.
It doesn't change the time like some of
these other cheap Chinese clocks do.
It's 18 bucks.
It's on sale tomorrow on Amazon.
Wow.
It's cheap.
It works great.
It's got a perfect alarm.
You can do all kinds of little things
with it to set it right.
And it's got a battery backup so it
doesn't go dead at the power goes out.
And DreamSky makes a ton of different display
modules with all kinds of clocks.
And you might want to look at their
website, but...
I like the kind that display the time
on the ceiling.
You ever seen those?
They may have one of those too.
I like those.
They're big, because it's just too much work
to roll over and actually look at the
clock.
Does it have an...
Oh, there it is.
Does it have an outdoor thermometer in it?
I mean, this sounds like this...
No, it doesn't.
It has an indoor thermometer, but an outdoor
thermometer would be useful.
Okay, what's...
It's a cheap little clock that works great
and it doesn't lose time.
It's a great stocking stuffer.
It is, actually.
That's a good point.
Yes.
What is the brand again?
Of all things, it's classic Chinese name, DreamSky.
DreamSky, best price.
There it is.
Find all of his tips at tipoftheday.net
for John's Tip of the Day.
Created by us, for you and me.
Just a tip with JCD.
And sometimes, Adam.
Created by Dana Brunetti.
You're killing me.
That was a good tip.
I may get one of those, just as
a stocking stuffer.
Hey, baby.
Merry Christmas.
You'd be like...
It's very small.
It's a perfect stocking stuffer.
What is this?
What is this?
I don't get it.
Did you not get the links I sent
you?
What is this?
This is no good.
All right, everybody.
That concludes our broadcast day here on the
No Agenda Show.
But stay tuned to the No Agenda Stream
for the Millennial Media Offensive.
We love those kids.
Episode 195 is coming up, so you can
stay tuned for that.
And, of course, we'll be back on Thursday
with more wadage for your cottage, as Darren
O'Neill would say.
Remember to check in early so you can
listen to the Rock and Roll Pre-Show.
And if Showmix is from— Let's see.
We got MVP and Melody.
That's right.
Two wrapped around real ones.
Beautiful.
Coming to you from the heart of the
Texas Hill Country, right here in Fredericksburg, Texas,
which is Christmas Central.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain,
I'm John C.
Dvorak.
All right.
Check in with us again on Thursday for
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And remember us at noagendadonations.com.
Until then, adios, mofos.
Hooey, hooey.
And such.
Oh, the clock.
Five seconds, two, one.
The cart is empty.
The card is ready.
It's Cyber Monday.
The price is falling.
The offer flies.
The urgency strangles my cries.
Discount, discount, discount.
I want the drone, the smartphone, the TV
screen.
The finest winter coat.
This begins to sway.
The page won't load.
It won't shine today.
A 404 error.
A nightmare.
The server screams.
The firewall trembles.
While my poor mouse enters a deep crisis.
The goods are vanishing, sold out, gone.
No, no, it cannot end like this, all
alone.
But wait, a sound, a digital chime.
A signal perfect, just in time.
My miner pulses.
The hash rate is high.
The Bitcoin machine is reaching the sky.
A block is found, a treasure I've earned.
More crypto wealth, I can't wait.
To the checkout with me.
The president, as we remember, was one of
19 suspects.
That's his mugshot back then.
Including his former chief of staff.
Yuri, Yuri.
Yuri, Yuri.
Pro-Kremlin and pro-Putin stand.
Donald Putin.
Yuri, Yuri.
Donald Putin.
Steve Whitkoff, Donald Putin's top envoy to cut
to the chase with Ukraine, held a phone
conversation five minutes back on October 14th, according
to this transcript with Yuri Ushakov.
Now, Yuri Ushakov is Vladimir Putin's top foreign
policy advisor.
Now, the call, when you read the transcript,
for me, it's not like, uh, one side,
you know, a man representing U.S. interests
in this plan, trying to get the best
deal for Russia and Ukraine.
On the other side, the Russians trying to
get their own best interest.
It almost sounds like a coach talk, a
pep talk, that Whitkoff is trying to give
Ushakov.
He's basically saying, we need to work together,
uh, to get this peace deal, uh, done.
Yuri, Yuri, Yuri.
Donald Putin.
In Kentucky came Air Force Two, the vice
president arrived beneath the flags of freedom where
the spirit is alive.
He shook a hand, he signed a cap,
he talked about the nation, then he dropped
a troop bomb in the middle of the
station.
He looked upon the soldiers, brave and strong
and true, And he told them his young
American view Folks, let's be honest.
Turkey doesn't taste that great.
It tastes a lot like booty!
It's tradition on a platter, it's what's served
upon the plate It's bland, dry filler, you
only eat it out of duty A symbol
of the giving, but not a savory He
told the troops back at Fort Campbell The
deep-fried rule is sound If you gotta
dunk it in oil, it ain't the best
meat around He said it's not that good
Most people don't like it one little bit
He said announcing he actually thinks It tastes
like a word that rhymes with spit But
maybe he was right, yeah, far right Let's
give him the bird, we
can eat all The best podcast in
the universe Adios, mofo Dvorak.org slash N
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