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We're better than you are.
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Adam Curry, John C.
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DeVora.
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It's Thursday, February 12th, 2026.
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This is your award-winning Kimmel Nation media
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assassination episode 1842.
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This is no agenda.
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Epstein elections, drones, outrage as we broadcast live
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from the heart of the Texas Hill Country
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here in FEMA region number six.
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In the morning, everybody.
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I'm Adam Curry.
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Hey, I'm from northern Silicon Valley.
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We're wondering whether the Nancy Guthrie story is
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similar to the Iran saga.
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I'm John C.
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DeVorak.
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Well, there's a comparison I hadn't heard yet.
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The Iran hostage crisis.
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This— Remember how long that went on?
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Didn't it go on for like 140 days?
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I think it was a year.
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It was a long time if I recall.
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I mean, I was young, but yes, I
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recall.
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I recall.
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Nobody else cares.
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Well, there's a few interesting things about the
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Nancy Guthrie case.
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I don't know if you have any clips.
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I happen to have something here.
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Well, I was hoping not to discuss it.
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Since you brought it up.
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Well, the only thing that's really interesting is
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the Ring camera.
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The Ring camera is interesting because Google and
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the FBI were able to retrieve some video
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from back-end systems where, gosh, that was
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kind of odd because she did not have
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a subscription.
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Nancy Guthrie did not have a subscription.
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This is— So they bring on— So they're
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stealing the material anyway.
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Subscription or no subscription.
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Yeah, this is great.
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So why bother having a subscription?
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So they bring on the founder of Ring,
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Jamie Siminoff.
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I guess they— didn't they sell that?
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Did they sell it to Google?
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It was independent.
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I think it was independent and Google bought
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them.
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Google bought them?
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Well, listen to this.
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Nancy Guthrie did not have a subscription.
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As you said with your product, if there's
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no subscription, you're saying there's no way to
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find the data.
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The FBI apparently worked with a parent company
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in this, Google, to be able to get
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the data.
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For people who have a Nest camera, even
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if you're not subscribing, that does create the
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possibility, it sounds like, that your data is
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still somewhere in what they're calling a back
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-end system.
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I'm just curious if that surprises you that
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they were able to find it in that—
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Well, I'm so surprised.
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Yeah, I wouldn't want to speculate.
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Maybe they're also— maybe we're wrong and that
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she did have some sort of subscription.
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In these cases, I've found that a lot
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of the things that we're hearing are not
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always correct and we find out later what's
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actually happening.
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I do know with Ring specifically, if you
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delete a recording or if you don't want
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a recording, you don't have a subscription, we
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do not have it stored.
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I know that because I've built the systems
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with my team.
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But again, I'm happy to see here that,
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you know, for whatever the reason was that
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they were able to, with this camera, recover
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this because I do think this evidence is
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hopefully going to lead to a solution here
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to this really just tragic case.
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And we really don't know, was it a
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Nest camera, a Ring camera?
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It's all so complicated.
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But the reason why it was interesting to
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me and clearly to the team at Fox
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News was because of the Super Bowl commercial.
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And it raises— all of this raises the
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issue of surveillance.
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And we want to get to Ring's recent
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ad that aired during the weekend's big game,
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the Super Bowl, promoting the camera's new search
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party feature.
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The AI feature, a search party for dogs.
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And it's getting some serious pushback over privacy
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concerns.
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But let's let the viewers take a look.
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One post of a dog's photo in the
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Ring app starts outdoor cameras looking for a
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match.
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Search party from Ring uses AI to help
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families find lost dogs.
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Since launch, more than a dog a day
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has been reunited.
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A dog a day!
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Dog a day.
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Jamie, were you surprised at the backlash?
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Because some of the reaction was surveillance state.
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Surveillance state!
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Yes, yes, yes.
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Why are you yelling?
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And were you surprised at that?
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I was surprised.
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I mean, I can understand the concern.
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When you look, though, at how search party
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for dog works, it actually is a completely
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built-on privacy.
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So what we do is we look for
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a dog, we post a dog.
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We find it, we say to Jamie, this
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dog that's lost in your neighborhood looks like
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this dog in front of your camera.
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Do you want to contact your neighbor?
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If you say no, your privacy is protected.
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And you're a whore.
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Wait, if you say no, your privacy's protected.
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If you say yes, well, privacy's gone, I
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guess.
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It's lost in your neighborhood, looks like this
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dog in front of your camera.
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Do you want to contact your neighbor?
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If you say no, your privacy's protected.
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How does your privacy protected by saying no?
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It doesn't make any sense at all.
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I think you have to look at it
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the other way.
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If you say yes, your privacy's not protected.
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That's what he's saying.
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That's the point here.
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Cameron, do you want to contact your neighbor?
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If you say no, your privacy is protected.
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You're totally fine.
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If you say yes, then- What privacy
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are we dealing with here?
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Let him finish, we'll find out.
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If you say no, your privacy is protected.
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You're totally fine.
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If you say yes, then like I think
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most people would want to, you help return
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the dog.
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And what we've seen in the response is
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definitely- This is so American.
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We're always, we want liberty, we want privacy,
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but if it's about a dog, I don't
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care.
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It's a dog, ladies and gentlemen, it's a
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dog.
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I've always said, immigrants, all that stuff, but
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the minute you hit the dogs, that's why
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Trump won the election.
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They're eating the dogs.
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People went, no, no, no.
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This is the line.
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Americans- It's a good call back.
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It's the way it is.
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There is concern from people that I think
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that don't understand how the system works, which
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is a shame.
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But the people that don't understand, the people
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that, I literally got a text from a
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friend today who didn't know we were doing
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this and said he cried when he watched
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it because two years ago his dog was
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lost and they never found it.
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And they wish they had a system like
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this.
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So I do think what it's doing is
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so important, we're returning over a dog a
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day and we're doing it by keeping privacy
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and trust because that is very important.
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I love dog a day.
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Dog a day, there's a show today.
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I read off the bat.
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Dog a day.
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And of course, the only real question we
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want to know is, well, if you can
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do it with dogs, how about humans?
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So I think the question I would ask
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as sort of the layman watching this is,
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well, if you can do that for a
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dog, you could do it for a human
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too, right?
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And I think that's where people get nervous.
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How come you couldn't find Nancy Guthrie's mom?
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I don't want to be surveilled by my
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neighbors if my neighbors don't like me or
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something.
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Is there a protection built into the system
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to make sure that what you're doing for
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dogs doesn't happen for a human?
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Yeah, so the number one post in our
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neighbors app was lost dogs.
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And so we built this for lost dogs.
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The system works around dogs.
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It does not work for humans.
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It wouldn't even work for that.
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OK, I'm just going to do it.
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Surveillance state.
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Come on.
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These things are all connected.
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They're trolling your camera in real time.
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It is being recorded.
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The FBI knows.
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Everybody knows this.
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And we saw this coming down Mountain Main
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Street a long time ago.
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Yeah, it's no big deal.
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Well, I don't know about it not being
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a big deal.
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It's not a big deal.
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And you either put these cameras up or
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you don't.
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Who cares?
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They're mostly a nuisance.
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Well, he's got one at the house and
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it goes off all the time.
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Every time a bird flies by.
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Oh, you got to turn on a pet
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detection.
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Deer comes up and bumps it.
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Yeah, I know.
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I know.
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Yeah, it's just it's just like, well, before
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we go deep into the show, I do
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have two clips I want to get out
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of the way, which I think are the
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clips of the of the of the of
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the of the era.
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Oh, I don't think we have a clip
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of the era jingle.
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No, we don't.
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And we're not going to ever.
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All right.
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This is to report the same story reported
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two different ways.
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One a little more accurate, I'd say, than
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the other and funnier.
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But let's listen to this one.
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This is your Texas story.
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This is your Texas news where you're gone.
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You're missing out.
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Oh, gee, what did I miss?
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This is the drone BBC.
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I did not miss this story.
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The punchline will be self-explanatory.
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Of course, the Trump administration has blamed a
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Mexican cartel drone incursion for the temporary closure
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of the airspace over El Paso International Airport
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in Texas.
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The measure was initially ordered for 10 days
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for special security reasons, but was lifted within
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hours.
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The transportation secretary, Sean Duffy, said swift action
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was taken to disable the drone.
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Mexico's President Claudia Sheinbaum says authorities are investigating
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the incident.
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El Paso's mayor slammed the closure, saying it
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caused widespread disruption and confusion.
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I want to be very, very clear that
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this should have never happened.
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You cannot restrict airspace over a major city
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without coordinating with the city, the airport, the
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hospitals, the community leadership.
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That failure to communicate is unacceptable.
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Yes, yes, I you know, I when I
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read the story, I immediately sent a text
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message before we found out what it was.
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I sent a text text message to my
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buddy Maverick, who has who has a plane.
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His mom lives in El Paso.
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He goes to El Paso all the time.
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And I said, I don't know what's going
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on.
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He said, no, I already told my mom,
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start driving.
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Get out of El Paso.
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The cartels are coming.
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Oh, brother.
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Well, that's what we all thought here.
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Well, here is the the.
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I don't know if this came before or
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after the BBC report, which makes it sound
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pretty, pretty impressive.
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But here is the NPR report, which is
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probably a little more accurate.
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The Trump administration says a U.S. military
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laser shot down what it said was a
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drug cartel drone near El Paso on the
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U.S.-Mexico border.
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However, it now appears the target may have
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actually been a party balloon.
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NPR's Greg Myrie has the details.
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Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said the military and
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the Federal Aviation Administration, quote, acted swiftly to
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address a cartel drone incursion.
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The threat has been neutralized.
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The FAA also announced the highly unusual step
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of closing El Paso's airspace for 10 days,
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then lifted the ban several hours later.
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However, a U.S. official familiar with the
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matter, but not authorized to speak publicly, gave
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NPR's Tom Bowman a different account.
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The source said the Pentagon recently authorized Customs
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and Border Protection to use the high energy
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laser.
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The agency then shot down a suspected drone.
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But it now appears the object was a
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Mylar party balloon that posed no threat.
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The drone again.
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Yeah, this, by the way, is not confirmed
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that it was a party balloon, but the
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storm come on, it was.
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I'm sure I'm sure you fire up a
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big laser that must have cost like about
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probably a grand to get to get up
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to power and pops pops a balloon.
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Now, I'm reminded of the fact that I
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used to send up garbage bags, of course,
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always have a helium tank around the house
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and occasionally you just if there was an
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event or something at the house, I'd always
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I'd say you want to say kids, you
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want to see something funny.
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And so you fill up a big, big,
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you know, 35 gallon garbage bag with helium
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and you put a little tag at the
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bottom, which will keep it nice and balanced.
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And you just push it off the front
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porch and it really just doesn't go very
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high.
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It just kind of just wanders into this
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garbage bag floating over the San Francisco Bay
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and you can just watch it for about
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an hour as it goes over.
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I just find it to be funny.
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Back in the day, we didn't have TikTok,
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we didn't have Instagram, we had garbage bags
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with helium.
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But these these Mylar balloons, which are you,
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I think you can pick them up on
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radar.
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I think it's possible that this, you know,
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is just picked up on radar and they
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made all these assumptions.
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That's the way I see it.
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Well, on the other hand, we are touting
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that we have lasers that can shoot drones
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out of the sky.
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That's kind of good PR.
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There are a lot of drone incursions on
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the border, apparently.
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I was just looking at the the pilot
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forums and this this does happen quite a
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bit.
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But the the whole thing is it's what
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we do, man.
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Hey, you got to.
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We got directed energy, energy weapons over here.
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Party kids will take care of you.
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I mean, the whole thing may have been
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a publicity stunt just to promote the laser.
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That was what that was my thought.
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I'm like, well, you know, that's kind of
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something.
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Just so you know, when you're flying your
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drones with drugs over, we do have lasers.
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I wonder what happens if you if you
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laser a drone with fentanyl.
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That may not be a good thing.
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What would what would go why?
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Because maybe the fentanyl just explodes and then
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wafts down over everybody.
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So fentanyl doesn't explode.
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No, no, but I don't think there could
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be vaporized.
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I don't know.
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I'm just asking questions.
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You know, like all podcasters, I'm just asking
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questions.
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Likely, I'm just asking questions.
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Well, no, I'd like to know.
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I'd like to see some of the results
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of some of these.
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I'd like to see some evidence that there's
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these lasers do much more than just disable
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the thing.
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That's what I'm guessing.
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It just disables and comes crashing down.
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I don't think it vaporizes the drone.
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What I was the hole in the balloon.
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Big deal.
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I was reading that it's a 20 or
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20 kilowatt laser.
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Which seems like a lot.
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You know, the little laser pens people are
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shooting at planes, I think, are a watt,
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maybe.
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Imagine 20 kilowatts.
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I think that could do some damage if
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it's true, if it's true.
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We don't know.
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We don't know.
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As usual, we needed we have we have
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we do know.
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Yeah, we have a collective.
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Yes, we do have people who know, but
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they may.
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This is my guy here.
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He's the guy that's in all that.
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I got to talk to the last guy
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you talked to.
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Apparently, one of the fleece El Paso with
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his family because they were afraid of the
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incursions of the cartels coming to get everybody.
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No, but the the guy from the Department
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of War who's in the who's in the
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modern warfare department, he would know.
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I'll ask him.
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I'll shoot.
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Well, you know, he can't tell me much,
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but I can say blink your eyes.
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Well, I had to guide you to some
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information that is useful.
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I will.
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I will.
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I'm actually mad.
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I didn't think of that earlier.
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One of our producers suggests that Nancy Guthrie
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was killed by a illegal and the whole
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thing is a cover up.
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Ooh, because because he has an exact example
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of what happened.
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It just happened in University of Colorado, I
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think, Boulder campus.
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He says this happened.
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Some student was killed by an illegal and
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they covered everything.
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He covered it up because they don't need
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any more Trump and Lake and Riley, you
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know, tributes.
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They don't need it, especially with a network
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TV stars.
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So hold on a second.
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That would kind of explain this bull crap
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ring slash Ness slash whatever camera story where
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you have this guy with a backpack and
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the and the the throwaway gloves.
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And he's and he's just, you know, a
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ring doorbell.
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You can rip that off.
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It's not hard.
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You can kick it and it's done.
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But no, he's going back.
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He's kicking around with a leash.
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That could that could be the hoax right
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there.
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That came out late.
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Yeah, that could be the cover up.
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Yeah, it makes sense to me.
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I did get a note from one of
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our producers on Thursday show.
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Could you and or John address two things?
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One, what is, quote, residual data from back
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end systems?
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That would be bull crap, is what I
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would say, because that's what they're saying.
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Oh, we we got video was residual and
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we have all these tech people residuals data
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for saying, yeah, it sounds like a Silicon
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Valley bullcrap phrase.
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I mean, I'm sure I'm sure that if
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you delete something, yes, it's still recoverable from
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a drive.
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Yeah, you can do that.
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Yes.
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And two, how can random folks monitor activity
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in a Bitcoin wallet?
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Well, I will answer that.
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If if you have the Bitcoin wallet where
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it's being sent to, then you can monitor
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that wallet to see if anything came in.
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That's that's the whole point of the open
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blockchain.
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And then you can follow it to see
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if it goes somewhere and ultimately winds up
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in an exchange.
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Then you can jump in as law enforcement,
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unless, of course, you use a mixer and
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a mixer can then mix it all up
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or you could put it on.
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There's ways you could get around it.
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But that's the whole point of Bitcoin.
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It's it's transparent.
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I got a very short clip here.
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Which explains the term that we have been
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trying to eradicate from our brains.
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This was a surprising clip that I got
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this morning.
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The term and this does not count, by
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the way.
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No, this doesn't count.
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It doesn't count.
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Do you even know where that comes from,
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by the way?
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Yeah, I did a whole thing about it's
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about by it goes back to 900, actually.
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But it means by the side of it
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means by the road.
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And it was used, it was used.
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I don't have the sheet in front of
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me now because it's been a while, but
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it was used as directional.
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Well, according to Maya Angelou.
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From her book, here we go.
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This is why I like it from her
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book.
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I know why the caged bird sings.
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This is an excerpt from her audio book.
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But later in the evening, I found that
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my violation lay in using the phrase, by
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the way.
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Mama explained that Jesus was the way, the
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truth and the light.
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And anyone who says, by the way, is
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really saying by Jesus or by God.
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And the Lord's name would not be taken
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in vain in her house.
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When Bailey tried to interpret the words with
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white folks used, by the way, to mean
19:05
while we're on the subject.
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Mama reminded us that white folks mouths were
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most in general loose and their words were
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an abomination before Christ.
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So you, white man.
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Are an abomination of shit.
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There's no documentation for this whatsoever.
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I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
19:29
Yeah, you look it up.
19:31
The etymology.
19:32
I'm sure I'll look it up on a
19:34
I will tell me exactly what it is.
19:38
Exactly.
19:41
Man, there's so much.
19:42
So the Super Bowl, I did not watch
19:44
very much of the Super Bowl.
19:46
I don't know.
19:47
Why would you?
19:48
Yeah, I was doing other things on Sunday.
19:51
Well, now that but why would you, you
19:52
know, a football guy?
19:53
That's the only football game I watch is
19:55
the Super Bowl.
19:57
Well, you can watch the highlights.
19:59
OK, it was by the way, you didn't
20:00
miss anything.
20:01
It was one of the boringest Super Bowl
20:03
games.
20:04
You just said, by the way.
20:05
Oh, my God.
20:08
Yes.
20:09
By his way, the way, the light, the
20:11
light.
20:11
That's what I'm talking about.
20:12
I'm by Jesus's way.
20:16
You didn't miss anything.
20:17
The game stunk.
20:19
Yeah, it was boring.
20:21
It got kind of interesting after the after
20:23
the show that the that the Seattle team
20:26
played dirty and knocked some guy blows out
20:28
of bounds.
20:29
It was a kind of a dirty play
20:31
by one of the Seattle players.
20:33
And then all of a sudden, the other
20:34
team scored the Patriots scored.
20:36
And then it might well, maybe they can
20:39
win.
20:39
This would be great because they could do
20:40
a comeback.
20:41
It'd be funny now.
20:43
Now they just crapped out in the team.
20:45
You know, it was boring.
20:46
And the commercials were not great.
20:50
No.
20:51
I mean, there was a there was some
20:53
of them were gruesome.
20:54
There was a talking gobs of hair, which
20:56
I thought was disgusting.
20:57
There's a bunch of headless people in one
20:59
commercial where their heads were chopped off.
21:01
Who needs that aggravation?
21:04
And it was just it was the whole
21:05
thing.
21:05
And then they had Green Day, you know,
21:08
come out first.
21:09
They bring it.
21:09
This is the classic.
21:11
They bring out all this.
21:12
They got a bunch of all stars, a
21:14
lot of 49ers.
21:15
Joe Montana, Steve Young.
21:17
They brought him out, put him on the
21:18
stage.
21:19
Well, well, well, Green Day sang American Idiot,
21:23
which I thought was the most insulting thing
21:25
you could do.
21:26
Pretty much.
21:27
And nobody caught picked up on that obviosity.
21:30
And it was just annoying.
21:31
I just found the whole thing to be
21:33
these this spectacle is is is laughable.
21:37
Just looking at at the overall picture of
21:41
this.
21:42
And it was all in Spanish and.
21:44
Oh, and the Spanish bad bunny thing that
21:47
poop that got a lot of attention.
21:49
To me, to me, that was all about
21:52
the midterms.
21:53
It seems very apparent right now that we
21:57
have.
22:00
That we I think we clearly have the.
22:04
Democrat Party and their operatives working very hard
22:09
on.
22:11
You know, getting they failed with the black
22:14
vote.
22:14
That was what BLM was all about.
22:16
And and they said, OK, black America vote
22:19
for us.
22:19
They didn't get as many as they wanted
22:20
because Trump got a lot.
22:21
And then you notice that out of the
22:24
protests everywhere in the streets, there's pretty much
22:27
no black people.
22:30
None.
22:31
I haven't seen one.
22:33
Exactly.
22:34
So.
22:36
You know, I kind of started to figure
22:39
this, tie this all together.
22:40
I thought I had a but I had
22:43
a clip.
22:45
Let me see if I have this here
22:47
somewhere.
22:52
Somehow I'm missing missing something here.
22:55
I wonder what happened to all my clips.
22:57
I'm on Linux, by the way.
22:58
So that would that should not should not
23:00
surprise you.
23:03
But the all of this.
23:06
Is a strategy, you know, the because how
23:09
many cities are really going nuts protesting is
23:11
Minneapolis.
23:12
We had Los Angeles for a little bit.
23:14
It's all paid for.
23:15
We know it's the same, you know, poor,
23:17
poor people.
23:18
In Portland.
23:20
And there's a little bit in Chicago, but
23:22
it's all paid for by the same entities
23:24
that go into the same, the exact same
23:26
people, the Black Lives Matter activists.
23:28
Now they're out there for it.
23:30
But and you see all this horrible, you
23:35
know, just people getting beat up.
23:38
What you actually don't see much of is
23:41
immigrants, illegal immigrants.
23:44
You don't you always hear about, well, they
23:46
drag this person out of the car and
23:48
they did this and they did that.
23:50
And what you really only see is protesters,
23:54
American citizen protesters who are getting rousted, getting
23:57
shot.
23:58
And that's the shock value of it.
24:00
But we're not the idea.
24:01
Yeah, that is the idea.
24:03
And from what I understand, you know, with
24:06
that recent election in in Texas, which went
24:10
to a Democrat.
24:13
They consider that to be the reason to
24:15
be that the Mexican-American, the Latin-American
24:20
vote is pulling away from Trump because they
24:24
don't like what they see.
24:26
And I think that that seems to me
24:28
to be the entire strategy behind all of
24:31
this is let's because what do we have?
24:34
We have 30 percent of America is Latinx,
24:40
would you say?
24:42
I don't know.
24:43
I think it is.
24:44
I think it's up there.
24:46
So it seems like that's the plan.
24:49
I mean, everything is about the midterms.
24:51
Well, everything's about the midterms, and that probably
24:53
is the plan.
24:54
And that's what you do.
24:55
And they're doing it, you know, no matter
24:57
what anyone likes to think.
24:58
And they shake their fist at it.
25:00
They're doing an excellent job.
25:02
I think Schumer's behind a lot of it,
25:04
even though some of the cornball stuff is
25:05
behind all that stuff, too.
25:07
But I think they're doing an excellent job
25:09
of swinging the voters toward the Democrats for
25:13
the because they know there's two factors here.
25:15
One, the Republicans don't come out to vote.
25:17
The Republicans that that little area in Texas
25:21
was when 30 30 points over for Trump.
25:26
Yes, yes.
25:27
It's a Trump district.
25:28
Yes.
25:29
But why didn't you know what it went
25:31
to this Democrat doofus?
25:33
Because the Republicans never come out.
25:36
Oh, whatever.
25:37
Who cares?
25:38
And the Republicans are basically lazy.
25:40
There is terrible party for this.
25:42
They don't they can't get jacked up about
25:44
anything and unless all hell's breaking loose and
25:47
then they'll come out.
25:48
And so they you know, so they're just
25:51
pushing.
25:51
They're going to I think that the unless
25:54
something changes or they pull a great stunt,
25:57
I mean, Trump has it in them to
25:59
do it.
26:01
The Republicans are going to get wiped out
26:03
in the in the midterms.
26:06
Here's this is from.
26:09
I forget which podcast this is.
26:11
This is a guy from the Brennan Center.
26:14
Isn't the Brennan is that literally John Brennan
26:16
heard of the Brennan Center?
26:18
Yeah.
26:18
The Brennan Center has been around.
26:20
Let me see.
26:21
Yeah.
26:21
Yeah.
26:22
Brennan's I think that I think that was
26:24
something set up by John Brennan.
26:25
If I'm not mistaken, Brennan Center for Justice.
26:29
Yes.
26:29
Nonprofit based in New York that works to
26:32
defend democracy.
26:34
Well, you know, Brennan, the CIA guy.
26:36
Let me see what the Wikipedia says.
26:40
If it's a no, William J.
26:41
Brennan, no different guy.
26:43
Oh, former Supreme Court Justice Brennan, who I
26:47
do not remember.
26:48
It's it's basically another Democrat, another money laundering
26:53
operation, another money laundering operation.
26:56
So they have this guy on on this
27:00
podcast, Mike Walden from the Brennan Center.
27:02
And this was in December before everything really
27:05
kicked off in Minneapolis.
27:07
On January 31st, a special election for this
27:09
is from Promethean Action.
27:11
I know I should not be playing these
27:13
clips, but this was actually quite good.
27:15
On January 31st, a special election for a
27:18
Texas state Senate seat turned into a warning
27:20
shot.
27:21
A district that Donald Trump carried by 17
27:24
points in twenty twenty four saw the Republican
27:27
candidate lose in what should have been an
27:30
absolutely safe race.
27:31
Now, let's go back to that interview with
27:33
the Brennan Center's Mike Waldman and look at
27:36
when it was recorded.
27:38
It was recorded back on December 10th.
27:40
And here's what Walden said then about how
27:44
Democrats could flip back voters who had voted
27:47
for Trump in twenty twenty four.
27:49
And in Texas in particular, for example, what
27:53
they aim to do is move some more
27:55
Democratic voters out of Democratic districts, in fact,
27:58
to try to flip some of the Southern
28:01
texts that have been, to many people surprised,
28:04
moving toward the Republicans, even though they're heavily
28:07
Hispanic.
28:08
That kind of assumed that in that community
28:10
would stay the same as they were in
28:12
twenty twenty four when Donald Trump won a
28:14
very substantial share of the Latino vote all
28:17
over the country.
28:18
The ICE raids, the brutality and all these
28:20
other things we've seen seem to pushing that
28:23
community back toward, in a sense, more traditional
28:26
partisan landing spot in the Democratic Party.
28:30
There you go.
28:32
That's the whole strategy.
28:34
The whole strategy.
28:36
Make it look horrible.
28:37
Make it look bad.
28:39
People die and they don't care.
28:41
They don't care if white people die.
28:42
They don't.
28:43
This is completely about.
28:45
No, they do care.
28:46
They want more white people to die.
28:48
Well, there's that.
28:49
And they do care.
28:50
And then there was the outrage.
28:52
And where was I?
28:53
It was I think it was Friday, Friday
28:56
or Saturday.
28:57
And people go, oh, man, did you see
28:58
the meme?
28:59
Did you see the meme?
29:00
Like what meme you talk about?
29:01
Oh, you haven't seen the Lion King meme.
29:04
What are you talking about?
29:05
No, I have not seen the meme.
29:08
And and well, I'm going to you're going
29:10
to see it.
29:11
This is the the outrage started right away
29:14
about the meme.
29:15
You've likely seen the blowback from a racist
29:17
video reposted by the president of the United
29:19
States overnight.
29:21
President Donald Trump on Truth Social posted the
29:23
Obamas as apes.
29:25
Now, the image appears at the end of
29:27
a one minute video where Trump once again
29:29
promotes false claims.
29:30
The 2020 presidential election was.
29:32
So listen to what he says.
29:34
Promotes false claim.
29:35
Back it up a little bit.
29:37
One minute video where Trump once again promotes
29:39
false claims.
29:40
OK, so he's saying that this video, Trump
29:43
once again promoting false claims.
29:45
One minute video where Trump once again promotes
29:47
false claims.
29:48
The 2020 presidential election was rigged.
29:51
It was just a two second clip that
29:52
shows the Obama's heads edited onto the bodies
29:55
of primates to the song The Lion Sleeps
29:57
Tonight.
29:58
Now we show you this image that's now
30:00
been taken down by the White House and
30:02
by President Trump so that you can see
30:04
what had so many people up in arms.
30:07
So for context, here it is.
30:09
This post has since been deleted.
30:12
OK, so, you know, CBS outrage.
30:15
I go looking around for some more.
30:16
Here's the other one.
30:18
And listen to what they say about the
30:19
video was about.
30:20
I am, by the way, the least racist
30:22
president you've had in a long time.
30:24
President Trump's controversial late night video post on
30:27
Thursday was about alleged voter fraud and just
30:30
over was about alleged voter fraud.
30:32
A minute long.
30:33
I like the beginning.
30:34
I saw it and just passed it on.
30:36
And I guess probably nobody reviewed the end
30:39
of it, because what I saw at the
30:40
beginning was really, really strong.
30:42
But the end of the video showed a
30:44
depiction of the Obamas as apes.
30:47
Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt initially defended the post
30:50
and called it an Internet meme about the
30:53
Lion King, adding stop the fake outrage.
30:57
The political fallout was swift, with some members
30:59
of the president's own party calling on him
31:01
to take down the post and apologize.
31:04
But the president says he didn't do anything
31:06
wrong.
31:07
We took it down as soon as we
31:09
found out.
31:09
I didn't make a mistake.
31:10
Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina, the lone
31:13
black Republican in the U.S. Senate, posted
31:15
this, praying it was fake because it's the
31:18
most racist thing I've seen out of this
31:20
White House.
31:21
The president should remove it.
31:23
CBS News has learned the president personally called
31:26
Senator Scott and said the video was a
31:28
staffer's mistake.
31:30
The post was deleted after the president's call
31:32
with Senator Scott.
31:33
I think that it was an acknowledgement that
31:35
this was definitely an error.
31:37
I just don't believe a lower level staffer
31:39
actually did it.
31:39
Republican political.
31:41
So I do believe Abdul Donald Trump has
31:43
to have a serious reset or he's going
31:46
to risk not just what happens in the
31:48
midterm.
31:49
Donald Trump is going to risk his legacy
31:51
if he does not change course.
31:54
So that's a black Republican strategist.
31:56
Now, obviously, we have to go at the
31:59
end.
31:59
That guy at the end was who is
32:01
that guy did that sound like?
32:02
What's his name?
32:03
The the the Brooks and Capehart guy, Capehart.
32:07
I don't think I don't think that was
32:09
Capehart.
32:10
No, it wasn't Capehart.
32:11
No, no, just like him.
32:13
No, I did the clip myself.
32:15
So obviously, I'm like, all right, here's what
32:18
I think happened.
32:19
A video a video was posted.
32:21
They screen recorded it probably on TikTok or
32:24
whatever.
32:25
And then it scrolled up and then you
32:27
got the that little bit of the Obamas,
32:29
whether that is what was intentional or not
32:32
is a secondary fact.
32:33
But I'm like, well, what is the video
32:36
that he posted?
32:37
And so I go look and can't find
32:39
it.
32:39
Can't find it.
32:40
I go on Gemini.
32:43
I say Gemini.
32:44
This video was Gemini.
32:46
This video was taken down.
32:48
Go find it.
32:49
It's probably on YouTube somewhere.
32:51
It spends 15 minutes after disconnecting.
32:55
No, can't find it.
32:56
It was taken down, does not exist.
32:57
It's not available.
33:01
OK, so obviously, when this video came out,
33:04
whatever it was, apparently false claims by the
33:07
president about the election.
33:10
We had to immediately jump on this and
33:13
beat and the distraction be the two seconds
33:17
of the Obamas and as apes, which is
33:19
part of a longer video where all of
33:21
these all these Congress critters and elites are
33:24
all, you know, I saw this video, which
33:27
won the Lion King video.
33:29
Yeah.
33:30
Yeah.
33:31
It had nothing to do with election fraud.
33:33
No, it was just a rando video on
33:36
a stupid video.
33:38
And at the end wasn't the Obamas at
33:40
the end.
33:40
It was Trump at the end, walking through
33:42
with a lion on a lot.
33:43
His head positioned on the lion.
33:46
And he walks through to the toward the
33:49
screen at the end.
33:50
That's how it ended.
33:51
This is exactly what all the Republican podcasters
33:54
are saying is it wasn't racist at all.
33:56
So I didn't say that.
33:58
I didn't say it wasn't racist.
33:59
I said that to what their description of
34:01
it is wrong.
34:02
Correct.
34:03
But that's not what the video was.
34:06
So I finally got a copy of the
34:09
video that was the minute before the two
34:12
seconds.
34:13
And that was, I would say, something that
34:15
needed to be covered up by outrage about
34:18
the racist video.
34:20
Investigation team obtained forensic access to a DS
34:23
200 tabulator, the machine that counts the votes.
34:27
A talent 4G wireless chip manufactured in Taiwan
34:30
was discovered embedded into the motherboard.
34:32
The voting machine tapes clearly indicate modem engagement
34:37
and transmission of election data.
34:41
Some of the anomalies that we noticed in
34:43
the 2020 general elections, that five key states
34:47
all stopped counting at a certain time in
34:50
these key battleground states.
34:51
These were all where the software, the mini
34:54
machines, the SNS machines were used, the smartmatic,
34:57
the gems software.
34:58
So when the vote stopped counting, and this
35:01
has been noted in other countries as well,
35:04
President Trump was significantly ahead when reporting and
35:08
counting resumed.
35:09
There was a massive spike occurred that that
35:12
favored Joe Biden.
35:17
That's the whole video of that little bit
35:19
at the end.
35:20
So it's forensic.
35:21
It's a forensic investigation showing how the the
35:25
smartmatic software and the Dominion voting machine stopped
35:28
counting all in five key districts all at
35:31
the same time.
35:33
And then after they started recounting, then Biden
35:36
just spiked above Trump.
35:39
That was interesting.
35:42
Yes, that was that has been that little
35:45
that information was floating around because the the
35:49
people that make the machines said they couldn't
35:51
be accessed through the Internet and you couldn't
35:53
have anything overseas.
35:55
And it had a G4 modem chip on
35:59
it.
36:00
Yeah.
36:01
So, of course, we had.
36:03
And so now the question is, was that
36:06
an intentional two second at the end?
36:11
Was it really a mistake?
36:13
Was it sabotage?
36:15
Because for sure, none of the none of
36:18
the news outlets actually discussed it all.
36:20
They said, oh, that was just Trump.
36:22
Trump, you know, claiming that the election was
36:25
stolen.
36:25
No, it was forensic evidence.
36:27
There was a lot more interesting than Trump
36:29
claiming the elections weren't stolen.
36:32
So this is either the botch of the
36:34
century, which I think it was probably or.
36:40
Someone within the White House, whoever is responsible
36:43
for posting that sabotaged it.
36:49
And I think that that's very reasonable.
36:52
Yeah, I think it's super reasonable.
36:55
Yeah, I think that's probably what happened.
36:57
And if I remember, I thought on Friday,
37:00
the president was talking about something big coming,
37:02
something big coming.
37:03
And this might have been the beginning of
37:05
something big.
37:06
And remember, they still have Maduro.
37:09
Well, they also had they had really they
37:12
released the documents about the Fulton County thing.
37:14
I thought I had a clip, but I
37:15
guess I don't.
37:18
They released the the warrant, the details.
37:23
And it has to do with some I
37:25
guess I really think some whistleblower came up
37:28
and said, hey, go.
37:28
You guys have been looking at this and
37:30
looking at that, but you're not looking in
37:32
the right place for the right thing.
37:33
Look at this.
37:35
And or maybe Maduro.
37:37
And Maduro could have some.
37:39
Yeah, I'm not I'm not.
37:41
We can't give up on Maduro being part
37:43
of this.
37:44
No, I'm not giving up on him at
37:45
all.
37:47
So but I mean, what a botch.
37:49
What an incredible botch, because they just get
37:52
to dismiss it.
37:53
And Google, for all I can tell, just
37:55
wiped it.
37:56
No residual data on their hard drives for
37:58
that video.
38:00
Gemini, and then I went to Grok.
38:03
Grok, find this for me.
38:04
It's been deleted.
38:06
The post the president took it down.
38:07
I can't find it.
38:09
You have to look around on X.
38:10
Maybe you can find it.
38:11
Huh?
38:14
Yeah, it should be able to find it.
38:16
Well, I did eventually.
38:17
There's a big shot.
38:18
Oh, the big shot.
38:19
I can't do this.
38:20
No, it's going to do all these things
38:22
for you, but it can't find a video.
38:24
Give me a break.
38:28
There's a good plan using, you know, I've
38:30
been using you can use a you know,
38:32
in the olden days, a little sidebar.
38:35
In the olden days, you could use Google
38:37
to get people's email addresses.
38:41
Yeah, yeah.
38:42
I kind of remember that.
38:43
Yeah, you could.
38:44
All you had to do is if you
38:45
knew the last thing, you could pretty much
38:47
work it around by doing the if you
38:49
knew what the domain was at something or
38:51
other, you can get their email address.
38:53
And then they stopped doing that.
38:54
They because all around on our privacy.
38:57
And so.
38:58
Oh, no privacy.
38:59
Oh, what about privacy?
39:01
You can't give somebody an email address out.
39:03
So so I've been noticing you can get
39:05
email addresses with the AI systems.
39:09
Grok can give you can find them.
39:11
And so can perplexity and anthropic.
39:14
They can all find email addresses sometimes sometimes
39:17
because I've noticed that you have to ask
39:20
if this is a tip for people looking
39:21
for people's email addresses.
39:23
You have to you have to specifically ask
39:26
for his public email address, which is the
39:28
email address.
39:29
So you ask for the email address.
39:31
But if you don't do it, couch it
39:33
right.
39:34
I know perplexity came back with.
39:37
They gave me the email address and I
39:38
asked again for something else.
39:40
Is it you can't even come close to
39:42
doing this because it's a privacy concern?
39:45
I think what is this thing?
39:47
What are these things doing?
39:48
I mean, they have all these these crazy
39:51
rules and regulations out of the blue.
39:53
They have, you know, I guess there's guardrails
39:55
that are coded in.
39:57
But it's like it's it's rando.
39:59
But you can use you can find people's
40:02
email addresses, it seems to me.
40:05
Well, I'm asking it now to find Adam
40:07
Curry's public email address.
40:08
So we'll see if it pops up.
40:11
There was an interesting post that this guy
40:13
wrote that's been going around.
40:15
If you got it from Matt Schumer, Matt
40:18
Schumer is apparently I guess he has an
40:20
AI company and he sold that.
40:23
And he has a couple of his investments
40:24
in AI companies.
40:25
And he wrote this this essay called Something
40:29
Big is Happening.
40:31
Oh, look, Adam Curry's primary public email address,
40:33
which he frequently mentions on the no agenda
40:35
podcast for listener feedback and producer communication is
40:41
Adam Curry dot com.
40:43
For increase specifically related to merchandise or the
40:46
no agenda shop.
40:49
Email is shop at no agenda shop dot
40:52
com.
40:52
Well, that's nice.
40:52
They're promoting our merch.
40:54
Didn't ask for it, but it's promoting the
40:57
merch.
40:59
And what this guy says, and I think
41:01
this is probably true, that all of the
41:03
AI companies have focused their model training on
41:08
coding.
41:10
And I would have to say that that
41:12
appears to be true because this whole system
41:15
that I built within a day or two
41:18
and fixed the bug that we had on
41:20
the last show, I just built it by
41:21
telling it what I wanted it to do
41:23
and it did it.
41:26
You have to know something about systems for
41:29
sure.
41:30
Otherwise, you probably won't be very successful.
41:34
But the coding part, I think there's something
41:38
there.
41:39
I mean, it it's not.
41:41
I mean, it's too expensive for them to
41:43
run it.
41:43
But man, it it does some really cool
41:46
thing.
41:46
Yeah, everybody thinks so.
41:48
Yeah.
41:49
I had this.
41:50
What is this from?
41:51
You know, but then again, then again, so
41:54
what?
41:54
That serves a small percentage of the community.
41:59
What is the percentage of people that care
42:01
to code?
42:02
You know, well, dare to code, care to
42:04
code.
42:05
It's not that many.
42:06
Well, no.
42:09
It couldn't find the video for you, but
42:11
it could code some some, you know, Linux
42:13
programs for your Linux.
42:16
So just just stay with me.
42:18
I'm I'm a little more cautious about A
42:21
.I. is no good now because you definitely
42:25
can create if you know what you're doing
42:27
and what you really want and you understand
42:29
systems.
42:30
You have to understand systems.
42:31
People have no idea how computers work.
42:33
They don't understand systems.
42:35
But if you understand the basics of systems,
42:38
then you can create something that could enhance
42:40
your own productivity.
42:42
You can create a service.
42:44
I mean, it's not like I don't think
42:46
you're going to create a company overnight like,
42:48
oh, look at this.
42:49
This widget I made and I can charge
42:51
money for this.
42:52
Probably not.
42:53
But when it comes to productivity, it's already
42:56
done things for this show.
42:59
Oh, tons.
43:00
In fact, I wanted to compliment Darren O
43:02
'Neill for doing the art for my last
43:04
substack column on talks of toxoplasmosis and the
43:11
you know, the crazy liberal women.
43:14
And so I asked Darren to do some
43:17
art.
43:18
And he comes back with 18 stunning pieces.
43:23
But beside art, John, we know why.
43:25
Yeah, but it's an example.
43:27
This is similar to coding.
43:29
I mean, it's good at it.
43:31
Yes, it's good at it.
43:32
But you have to be good as the
43:35
guy telling you what to do because it's
43:38
not everybody that can do that.
43:39
Well, again, you have to understand what the
43:42
ultimate outcome is going to be.
43:45
And Darren understands us, understands what we like,
43:48
understands the show, understands the dynamics of album
43:52
art, which is not something you hang on
43:54
the wall.
43:54
You can't blow it up.
43:56
And then, oh, look at all these little
43:57
details.
43:58
He gets that.
43:59
But but that's that's kind of my point,
44:01
I think.
44:04
Well, actually, it came because there was this
44:07
clip about UC Berkeley or the University of
44:13
California system is seeing a drop in computer
44:15
science enrollment.
44:16
Listen to this.
44:17
It was once a degree to some of
44:18
the highest paying jobs in the world.
44:21
But now the University of California is seeing
44:23
a drop in enrollment for computer science.
44:26
That's going to bring in our business and
44:28
tech reporter Scott Budman.
44:29
Scott, I saw that this hasn't happened since
44:31
the dot com bust.
44:33
So is this a bad sign for tech?
44:36
You know, it really could be.
44:37
But things are a little bit different than
44:38
they were back in ninety nine and two
44:40
thousand.
44:40
And Audrey, as you can imagine, when all
44:42
those stocks fell and the companies went out
44:43
of business, it was really tough for a
44:45
young person to say, you know what I
44:46
want to do right now is get a
44:47
job in tech and get a job in
44:49
computer science.
44:50
Since then, though, as tech has gone up,
44:52
a lot of the people have said, hey,
44:54
CS is a great way to get in
44:55
there.
44:56
I'm going to learn to code.
44:57
I'm going to get an entry level job.
44:58
And it's only in the last couple of
45:00
years we've seen those jobs decline.
45:02
Why?
45:02
Well, of course, artificial intelligence.
45:04
A lot of students coming out of school
45:06
with that coveted computer science degree only to
45:09
find out that either the internship or the
45:11
entry level job is being done by a
45:14
bot, and that is discouraging a lot of
45:16
people.
45:16
And so for the first time in quite
45:18
some time, all but one UC campus will
45:21
get to that in a minute, has seen
45:22
a decline in computer science degrees and majors.
45:26
Students are just wary of and parents, frankly,
45:29
spending all that time and money and effort
45:31
to come out and find out that your
45:32
job, at least your entry level job, is
45:35
being done by a machine.
45:37
Yeah, well, so I don't I don't know
45:39
what they're teaching in computer science anymore, but
45:41
I would say if you have a kid
45:43
and you want this kid to be successful
45:45
and be able to utilize what now seems
45:48
to be the main outside creating art and
45:52
and writing your resume, which anyone still I
45:56
have not seen a I do anything really
45:59
spectacular with creative writing or just I just
46:02
yeah, just not yet.
46:04
It could come, you know, give your kid
46:08
the old laptop, any computer you've got, tell
46:12
them to install Linux and use an A
46:14
.I. chat thing to help them install it
46:17
so they'll understand, customize it.
46:19
And then once you understand a system, which
46:22
I doubt is being taught in computer science
46:25
anymore, you know, like it was supposed to
46:28
be taught in high school.
46:29
Oh, please.
46:30
They're just they're just showing you how to
46:32
use the mouse.
46:32
I don't I mean, prove me wrong, educators.
46:36
It's not like we understand.
46:38
You took apart you took apart a whole
46:40
IBM PC live on TV.
46:43
Big deal.
46:46
No, but you understand the controllers.
46:49
The do people even understand the hard disk
46:51
anymore?
46:52
To this, there used to be one of
46:55
our one of our some one of the
46:58
talent at talent at Mevio, who we both
47:03
know well of famous, some semi-famous guy.
47:08
I was over at his house and he
47:09
was having some issues with his computer.
47:12
And I'm, you know, like a fixer.
47:14
And so I say, well, let's we got
47:16
to.
47:16
OK, well, first thing we got to pull
47:17
out this memory.
47:19
The RAM he had to he had to
47:21
he said, and he said, you know, I've
47:24
never seen a guy get so nervous.
47:27
You're pulling something out.
47:28
I'm pulling the RAM out of his machine.
47:31
And it's like, am I going to lose
47:33
it?
47:33
No, am I going to lose anything?
47:35
Am I all my day?
47:36
Is everything going to be it's the RAM.
47:38
He doesn't know what it is.
47:39
And I had tried to explain it to
47:41
him.
47:41
What is the random access memory?
47:42
It's just it doesn't do anything when the
47:45
machine's off.
47:46
It's just it's just it's nothing.
47:48
You're removing my memory, my files.
47:50
They're gone.
47:52
But there's nothing there.
47:53
This is my point.
47:54
We have iPhones or smartphones in particular have
47:58
obfuscated storage.
48:01
People only know storage is how many pictures
48:02
can I put on it?
48:04
They're not thinking about anything else.
48:05
How many?
48:06
And it's sold that way.
48:07
Well, you want the 256 gigabytes.
48:09
You can put lots of pictures on it
48:10
and lots of songs.
48:12
But they don't understand storage or just all
48:16
these these very basic.
48:17
No, they don't know that.
48:19
It's unbelievable.
48:19
They don't know the difference between random access
48:22
memory and and and storage memory.
48:27
So there, I think outside of becoming of
48:30
getting a vocation, plumber, electrician, et cetera, et
48:34
cetera, et cetera.
48:35
If you really want to be in knowledge
48:37
work and being able, I think there's there's
48:40
there will be a huge opportunity for people
48:42
who understand a system to be able to
48:45
create custom systems for any workplace.
48:50
Including a podcast, that that's kind of the
48:53
point I'm making is that this stuff can
48:56
be used for great benefit for productivity if
49:00
you at least understand how systems work and
49:02
you really can describe what you want to
49:04
get out of the other end.
49:07
Now, according to the CEO of Microsoft, I
49:10
know you're all dead.
49:11
You talk about superintelligence.
49:14
Most of your rivals talk about HCI, artificial
49:18
general intelligence.
49:20
Explain the difference between HCI and superintelligence.
49:24
I prefer the definition that focuses first on
49:27
what would it take to build a system
49:30
that could achieve most of the tasks that
49:32
a regular professional in a workplace goes about
49:35
on a daily basis.
49:36
Think of it as a professional grade AGI.
49:39
How close are we?
49:40
I think that we're going to have a
49:41
human level performance on most, if not all
49:45
professional tasks.
49:46
So white collar work where you're sitting down
49:48
at a computer, either being a lawyer or
49:52
an accountant or a project manager or a
49:54
marketing person.
49:55
Most of those tasks will be fully automated
49:59
by an AI within the next 12 to
50:02
18 months.
50:03
And we can see this in software engineering.
50:05
Many software engineers report that they are now
50:08
using AI assisted coding for the vast majority
50:11
of their code production, which means that their
50:13
roles shifted now to this meta function of
50:17
debugging, scrutinizing, of doing the strategic stuff like
50:21
architecting of, you know, et cetera, et cetera,
50:24
putting things into production.
50:25
So it's a quite different relationship to the
50:27
technology.
50:28
And that's happened in the last six months.
50:29
And I'm going to presume that if you're
50:32
if you have a law firm and you're
50:34
uploading, you're putting contracts in and saying, summarize
50:37
this, I'm going to presume that you are
50:39
actually helping to add data to train these
50:42
models on the next go around.
50:44
Well, the models aren't doing it themselves.
50:47
This is the thing that's overlooked here.
50:50
Yeah.
50:50
OK, everyone's using the AI to do coding.
50:53
You you included.
50:55
But it's not like it's doing it on
50:58
its own without you having anything to do
51:00
with this.
51:01
You have to you're telling it what to
51:02
do and you know what should come out.
51:05
All it's doing is increasing your productivity.
51:08
It's not eliminating you.
51:10
You haven't been eliminated.
51:11
No, we're you're you're still stuck there.
51:16
Listen, I'm trying to eliminate myself here.
51:19
You can't it can't be done.
51:20
Well, but it's the same thing with AGI.
51:22
They're talking about, oh, this and that's going
51:24
to replay.
51:25
No, it's not.
51:26
It's going to increase productivity.
51:28
There's no doubt about that.
51:30
I mean, that's I mean, when Darren sent
51:32
me the 18 pieces, if he had done
51:34
done those by hand, it would have taken
51:36
a year.
51:37
Well, this is this is an interesting example
51:40
because one Darren has eliminated 300 other prompters
51:46
who just can't cut it and every single
51:49
original artist.
51:51
So, yeah, it's enhanced Darren's productivity, but you
51:55
can't deny that other people have been obviously
51:58
just they are eliminated, they're gone, they're dead.
52:03
Jim, even Nick, the rat who's who did
52:06
so much of our art, he was the
52:08
leaderboard leader.
52:10
Still is he.
52:11
But he can't get something in and compete.
52:15
He can't compete.
52:16
So that's that's my point.
52:18
But this is like a carpenter that, you
52:20
know, when the first hammer was invented.
52:22
I mean, come on.
52:23
The guy with the hammer is the guy
52:24
who's going to get all the work.
52:26
It's just the same thing.
52:27
It's like, yeah, this is true.
52:30
It's it does.
52:31
People who learn to use the new tool
52:35
will do better than people that have failed
52:38
to move to.
52:39
It's like when Photoshop first showed up.
52:41
I mean, the artists that use Photoshop could
52:43
be more productive because they could work with
52:45
the art directors and say, I, you know,
52:47
I like your art, but I think if
52:49
the background was blue.
52:51
Oh, God, I do the whole piece over
52:53
again or no.
52:54
With Photoshop, you touch this and that.
52:56
The whole background is blue all of a
52:57
sudden, just instantly.
52:59
Yeah.
52:59
And so that you if you're going to
53:02
ignore the tools.
53:03
Yeah, you're going to be out of a
53:04
job.
53:06
Or or or if you just can't get
53:08
into the tool.
53:11
Yeah, well, this is a this is a
53:13
IQ issue.
53:16
You're too dumb for a dumb for a
53:19
I mean, or you don't want to or
53:23
you or you're stuck in the mud or
53:25
you're one of the or you're, you know,
53:26
just one of these people that just sucks.
53:30
Kind of which, you know, it sounds like
53:31
I should be that way, but I'm not.
53:33
No, but I'm I think I'm I'm crawling
53:35
back a little bit.
53:37
I see great advantage in this.
53:39
I still think it will have to be
53:40
decentralized.
53:41
And and people use open source models and
53:44
different scenarios.
53:45
I just I don't see how the scaling,
53:48
the hyperscalers, how they can make the money
53:51
part work because they have they can't.
53:53
They can't.
53:54
Yeah, they have to satisfy everybody's reality.
53:56
This is not going to work.
53:58
Well, it will work on a decentralized at
54:00
home or in a group basis.
54:02
Open.
54:02
Yeah, I mean, it works as a tool.
54:05
Then people are taking advantage of it.
54:06
But in terms of a of a it's
54:09
hard to say.
54:10
There's got to be an analogy for this.
54:13
Something like this has taken place before where
54:15
you have some more.
54:16
An analog, not an analogy.
54:18
Well, OK, how about this?
54:20
Metro Metropolitan Fiber Systems.
54:23
This is, I think, a good analog.
54:25
We had the dotcom boom.
54:26
Everyone's flipping out.
54:27
We need lots of bandwidth, bandwidth, bandwidth, need
54:30
tons of bandwidth.
54:31
They like lay fiber, all dark fiber all
54:34
around the country.
54:35
And they go broke.
54:37
Yeah, they did.
54:38
And the fiber is still there.
54:40
There's fiber all over the country.
54:42
But it got picked up.
54:43
It got picked up by other people.
54:45
But look at this scrounger at scrounger prices.
54:48
Yes.
54:49
So data centers with, you know, with big
54:52
machines everywhere.
54:54
I'm thinking 18 months down the road, Mr.
54:56
A.I., Microsoft A.I. CEO, I'm going
54:59
to go hang out at some data centers
55:00
and pick me up some NVIDIA cards, bring
55:02
them home, and it'll be pretty cool.
55:06
That's what I see happening.
55:09
Of course, though, that's actually not a bad
55:11
scenario, I think that that as a predictive.
55:17
I think you're on to something.
55:18
Well, I'm going to I just haven't had
55:21
time, but I'm going to load up that
55:22
Quinn three dash TTS model, which is for
55:26
everything I can tell from the demos, better
55:28
than 11 labs at sampling my own voice.
55:32
Saying that, you know, I'm going to get
55:34
it done.
55:35
Well, that's a perfect example.
55:37
Eleven labs is the one I actually spend
55:39
money on.
55:41
And it's and it's not cheap.
55:44
Before, you know, burning tokens, burning tokens, tokens.
55:48
That's another good one.
55:50
This is like the magic money.
55:52
This is like a stripper operation.
55:54
It's like a topless bar where you go
55:58
and tokens.
55:59
You get tokens for the girls or fake
56:01
money.
56:02
Tokens are stripper money.
56:04
Yes.
56:06
And I love Apple, who I think they're
56:09
stupid over there.
56:11
They still want to incorporate A.I. and
56:14
make it make Siri helpful.
56:17
Then, you know, they just came out with
56:18
an announcement.
56:18
Oh, well, we know it's been two years
56:22
now.
56:22
They've been saying, oh, we're going to put
56:23
it in the next release, the next release,
56:25
the next release.
56:26
And I read this report from Bloomberg.
56:29
The company is now working to spread the
56:31
new capabilities out over future versions, possibly postponing
56:35
at least some features until at least iOS
56:38
26.5 or iOS 27, whenever those are
56:42
due.
56:42
I mean, here's the line.
56:43
Testing has uncovered problems with the software, including
56:47
issues with Siri, properly processing queries, taking too
56:50
long to handle requests and accuracy issues, accuracy
56:53
issues.
56:55
Well, yeah, that's A.I. That's what A
56:58
.I. is.
56:59
Takes too long.
57:00
Sometimes has inaccuracy issues.
57:03
Are they going to try and make this
57:04
thing perfect?
57:06
I think that's nuts if they think that's
57:08
going to happen.
57:09
I think that's exactly what they're doing.
57:11
I think it's a mistake.
57:13
So, anyway, I'm a little more bullish on
57:18
billable hours type jobs, you know, like paralegals.
57:23
I'll talk to Rob about it, the constitutional
57:25
lawyer.
57:26
It seems to me that once just like,
57:29
see, the beauty about code is if you
57:32
make a mistake in code, the code doesn't
57:34
run.
57:35
That's the beauty of it.
57:36
Syntax is everything.
57:38
So that's a very defined language skill.
57:42
That these models have when it comes to
57:45
legality.
57:47
And I don't know, I think you can
57:48
do certain contracts and stuff.
57:51
It seems like that would be possible to
57:53
do.
57:54
You don't think so?
57:55
Contracts are all boilerplate, so it shouldn't be
57:57
that hard.
57:58
Yeah, right.
57:58
So but that will reduce someone's job somewhere.
58:03
I think that's what they're saying.
58:05
Entry level, white collar jobs.
58:07
I am so happy I'm a podcaster right
58:09
now.
58:10
Can you imagine?
58:14
Yeah, I can imagine.
58:16
Yeah, I'm very happy.
58:18
Anyway, NPR jumps on the bandwagon and they're
58:21
still talking about the the obvious problem of
58:24
people using their chatbot for emotional support.
58:28
In the US, 90 percent of schools say
58:30
they're concerned about the mental health effects of
58:32
students online lives.
58:34
Nearly half report daily incidents of digital harm
58:37
and over 60 percent say students are turning
58:41
to chatbots for emotional support, often before reaching
58:44
out to a person.
58:46
That's according to new data from LineWise, a
58:48
company that tracks student mental health.
58:50
Harrison Parker is the vice president of that
58:53
group.
58:53
They are becoming AI imaginary friend for these
58:57
kids.
58:57
And what started out as curiosity for them
59:00
is really increased or changed into something far
59:03
more concerning.
59:04
In the UK, that number jumps to 70
59:07
percent.
59:07
And in Australia, nearly three in four schools
59:10
say tech is moving faster than their ability
59:12
to respond.
59:14
Windsor Johnston, NPR News.
59:16
So here's that even mean, how's it moving?
59:20
Where's it going?
59:21
Down the tube, it's moving faster than they
59:25
can respond.
59:25
What is that?
59:26
It's stupid.
59:28
What does it mean?
59:29
I don't know.
59:30
It's NPR.
59:31
What does NPR even mean anymore?
59:33
So according to CNBC, AI companies, Anthropic and
59:37
Meta, this will irk you, are hiring social
59:40
media creators to post sponsored content on apps
59:45
like Facebook, Instagram, YouTube and LinkedIn and paying
59:49
said creators between $400,000 and $600,000
59:53
for long term partnerships spanning several months.
59:58
I love AI.
1:00:00
Don't you, John?
1:00:01
Wow.
1:00:02
Don't you love AI?
1:00:04
Don't you think Anthropic is great?
1:00:08
Come on, come on.
1:00:09
Yeah, yeah.
1:00:10
This reminds me of the Super Bowl commercials
1:00:12
going back to that earlier thing where they
1:00:14
had these Anthropic and I guess Chet, the
1:00:18
Chet Open AI commercials that were battling it.
1:00:21
They were Coke and Pepsi.
1:00:24
OK, hold on.
1:00:24
We're better than you are.
1:00:26
No, you suck.
1:00:27
Hold on.
1:00:28
Hold on.
1:00:29
Super Bowl commercials.
1:00:32
The last time we had like a category
1:00:35
in Super Bowl, we had crypto, we had
1:00:38
FTX and we had crypto.com and what
1:00:41
happened?
1:00:43
Blow up.
1:00:44
Yeah, it all crept out.
1:00:45
Before that, Super Bowl, pets.com, groceries.com.
1:00:49
What happened after that?
1:00:50
Yeah, it crept out.
1:00:51
So this would, you'd think, forespell.
1:00:57
Forespell?
1:00:58
Forespell.
1:00:58
That's a Dutchism.
1:00:59
I can't believe I said that.
1:01:00
Wow, I never heard of it.
1:01:03
Forespelling is the Dutch.
1:01:04
I don't know what happened.
1:01:06
I was talking to my daughter today.
1:01:08
Might have been that conversation.
1:01:11
What's the word I'm looking for, for forespell?
1:01:15
Well, now you've got forespell stuck in my
1:01:17
head.
1:01:19
Foretell.
1:01:20
Foretell.
1:01:22
I like forespell.
1:01:24
I like forespell.
1:01:25
I think it's a cool phrase, word or
1:01:28
whatever it is.
1:01:29
That would mean doom is on the way
1:01:31
for at least some companies.
1:01:33
Doom is obviously on the way.
1:01:36
Yeah, yeah.
1:01:38
I mean, we all know this is doom's
1:01:40
on the way.
1:01:40
It's going to take the whole market with
1:01:41
it.
1:01:42
Yeah, the whole economy.
1:01:43
It's going to be a nightmare.
1:01:44
The whole economy.
1:01:45
It's going to happen the way I see
1:01:47
it.
1:01:48
I'm trying to think, you know, they would
1:01:49
like to, the Democrats are doing so, back
1:01:52
to what our theme is for today's show.
1:01:54
The Democrats are doing so well with the
1:01:57
midterms that, you know, what an old trick
1:02:01
is to crash the economy before an election,
1:02:04
and then the president gets blamed.
1:02:06
But you can't take a chance.
1:02:09
Why take a chance?
1:02:10
You don't want to take a chance when
1:02:12
things are going so well, and you already
1:02:14
know you're going to kick ass.
1:02:16
And so what's going to happen is that
1:02:17
they're going to, I think the Democrats will
1:02:19
do their thing and take over the House
1:02:22
and start to want to impeach Trump a
1:02:24
couple more times.
1:02:26
And then there'll be a crash right afterwards.
1:02:29
It'll be blamed on the Democrats, but it
1:02:31
won't make any difference.
1:02:33
Because there's a fear that the Democrats could
1:02:35
get blamed for a crash.
1:02:37
I mean, they can't take a chance.
1:02:38
So we're going to have a good economy
1:02:40
until the midterms.
1:02:41
And then AI is going to bring the
1:02:44
whole thing down.
1:02:45
Well, I like that prediction.
1:02:48
It's a terrible prediction.
1:02:50
I brought something like this up with Horowitz
1:02:52
and he was not happy.
1:02:53
I like it as a prediction.
1:02:56
NPR is already working hard for the Democrat
1:02:58
party and focusing very much on affordability.
1:03:04
And I have a couple of short clips.
1:03:06
And now we are going to turn to
1:03:08
another big issue that voters are clearly thinking
1:03:10
about right now, the economy.
1:03:12
Mara, how are these voters, these are voters
1:03:14
who voted for Joe Biden in 2020 and
1:03:16
Donald Trump in 2024, how are they feeling
1:03:18
about the economy right now?
1:03:20
I would say they're feeling pretty bad.
1:03:22
I mean, some of them mentioned some good
1:03:24
things like gas prices going down, but they
1:03:26
talked about groceries and health care and housing
1:03:29
being too expensive.
1:03:30
One woman said the state of the economy
1:03:32
sucks.
1:03:33
Everything is spiraling out of control.
1:03:35
The cost of living, layoffs, businesses are closing.
1:03:38
It was a pretty dire view.
1:03:40
I think they are willing to give Trump
1:03:41
some time to fix it.
1:03:43
There was a big debate about whether it
1:03:45
was his economy, whether he was at fault
1:03:47
or was it still Biden's fault.
1:03:50
But I think that nothing in our focus
1:03:52
group diverged from national polling, which shows that
1:03:55
people are very, very sour on the economy.
1:03:58
So there's the big question.
1:03:59
Was it, is it Trump's economy or Biden's
1:04:02
economy?
1:04:03
So are these, again, these are voters who
1:04:04
voted for Donald Trump in 2024 and they're
1:04:07
feeling more anxious after he's taken office.
1:04:09
Are they blaming him for that?
1:04:11
Well, I think there's been a debate about
1:04:14
how much to blame Trump for this.
1:04:16
Some people said tariffs were raising prices.
1:04:19
Other people said it's Biden's fault.
1:04:21
That certainly is Trump's message.
1:04:23
And these voters are hearing it a lot
1:04:25
based on the news sources that they consume.
1:04:28
But that's going to be the big battle
1:04:30
in the midterms to say whether this is
1:04:32
Trump's economy or Biden's economy.
1:04:35
This is from the NPR Politics podcast.
1:04:37
One more.
1:04:38
One of my takeaways was how much all
1:04:40
these things get conflated.
1:04:42
The economy, immigration, foreign policy kind of adds
1:04:45
up to chaos and anxiety for voters.
1:04:47
Here's one voter named Nancy who explained how
1:04:50
all this makes her feel.
1:04:52
Well, I like a few of his policies
1:04:54
and things he's done.
1:04:55
The issues I have are the big ones
1:04:56
with things like tariffs, you know, financial impact
1:04:59
on our economy, the way he's handling the
1:05:00
whole ICE thing, trying to start wars everywhere,
1:05:03
Venezuela, trying to take over Greenland, everything like
1:05:06
that.
1:05:06
This is a very informed voter.
1:05:09
The whole ICE thing, he's taking over Greenland.
1:05:11
You know, financial impact on our economy, the
1:05:13
way he's handling the whole ICE thing, trying
1:05:15
to start wars everywhere, Venezuela, trying to take
1:05:18
over Greenland.
1:05:18
Starting wars.
1:05:19
What is she consuming?
1:05:21
She's a Republican, I guess?
1:05:22
No, I don't think so.
1:05:23
No, I don't think so.
1:05:25
And everything like that.
1:05:26
It's just so chaotic that all the bad
1:05:28
stuff just kind of eliminates the good.
1:05:30
That's so interesting.
1:05:31
The chaos thing, it feels like the most
1:05:33
predictable part of a Trump presidency.
1:05:35
I mean, we saw this already in four
1:05:37
years of Trump's first term.
1:05:39
Are these voters surprised by that level of
1:05:41
uncertainty?
1:05:42
We didn't ask them if they were surprised.
1:05:43
They just don't like it.
1:05:46
Okay.
1:05:47
I mean, what was that all about?
1:05:50
Who the hell is that?
1:05:51
I don't know if they were surprised.
1:05:52
They just don't like it.
1:05:56
I'm faking gay.
1:05:58
Okay.
1:05:58
I mean, they do seem like voters, though,
1:06:02
who, considering they supported Trump in 2024, would
1:06:06
be receptive to his spin on some of
1:06:08
the economic stuff.
1:06:09
Just because you voted for Trump doesn't mean
1:06:11
you like every single thing about him.
1:06:13
And that's what these voters were telling us.
1:06:15
But I guess I'm just trying to drill
1:06:17
down on why are there no rose-colored
1:06:20
glasses the way that President Trump has been
1:06:22
trying to push.
1:06:22
There are positives that you can find in
1:06:24
the economy right now.
1:06:25
Record stock market.
1:06:26
I feel like Trump keeps trying to push
1:06:26
this.
1:06:26
Right, you can't eat GDP.
1:06:28
This is about prices, not the rate of
1:06:30
inflation.
1:06:31
This is about people's everyday lives.
1:06:34
And even though, yes, the stock market is
1:06:36
good, GDP is good, but they're having to
1:06:38
pay more, as they told us, for housing,
1:06:41
healthcare, groceries.
1:06:42
Yeah, groceries came up a lot.
1:06:44
That was something that people were mentioned over
1:06:46
and over again, is that groceries still remain
1:06:48
too high.
1:06:49
They saw those prices tick up during COVID,
1:06:51
and they really have not seen them meaningfully
1:06:53
go down, for the exception of eggs.
1:06:55
Now, instead of NPR explaining how inflation works,
1:07:01
they just go along and say, well, they
1:07:03
haven't seen prices come down, except for eggs.
1:07:05
Prices, prices coming down.
1:07:07
John C.
1:07:08
Dvorak will explain.
1:07:10
Well, there's not much to explain.
1:07:12
Somebody sent me a note complaining about my
1:07:15
harping.
1:07:16
No, I think it's good harping.
1:07:18
People need to hear it.
1:07:19
Inflation is cumulative.
1:07:21
It doesn't go down.
1:07:22
If you have a 2% inflation rate,
1:07:24
that means things continue to grow at a
1:07:26
percentage, at 2%.
1:07:28
And it gets higher and higher and higher,
1:07:31
and it doesn't back off.
1:07:33
I mean, the egg thing is an anomaly,
1:07:35
because that had to do with the culling
1:07:37
of the chickens, because of bird flu.
1:07:39
It's got nothing to do with anything.
1:07:40
So egg prices shouldn't even be taken into
1:07:43
account.
1:07:44
Energy prices are the only things that will
1:07:46
go up and down a bit.
1:07:47
And it does have an overall effect, because
1:07:49
if it costs less to move stuff around,
1:07:51
then you can sell it for less money.
1:07:53
And so energy prices are the only thing
1:07:55
that you can expect to come down and
1:07:56
maybe have some minor influence.
1:07:59
But when it comes to the basic price
1:08:00
of groceries, whatever you're paying today is what
1:08:03
you're going to be paying, generally speaking.
1:08:07
It's not going to start deflating, because if
1:08:08
you have a deflation economy, which is what
1:08:11
everyone seems to want, you go into a
1:08:13
deflationary economy, you basically break the back of
1:08:16
the economy, because nobody buys anything during a
1:08:19
deflation period, because why should I buy today
1:08:22
when it'll be cheaper tomorrow?
1:08:23
So they just hold on to their money,
1:08:25
everything collapses.
1:08:26
So you're just stuck with the situation the
1:08:28
way it is, and bitching and moaning about
1:08:30
it doesn't help.
1:08:32
I think the president did himself no favors
1:08:34
by saying, I'll bring prices down.
1:08:35
He was pretty bold about the generic, I'll
1:08:38
bring prices down bit.
1:08:41
Well, he was also like, when we get
1:08:43
into the...
1:08:44
I have some clips here on...
1:08:47
Who is this?
1:08:49
About the hearings that we had this week
1:08:52
with Bondi.
1:08:54
I got three clips.
1:08:55
I curse YouTube TV for putting C-SPAN
1:08:58
on.
1:08:59
I curse you.
1:09:01
Well, I have...
1:09:02
You know, I've tried to figure out...
1:09:04
Pam Bondi goes, this is a classic example
1:09:07
of the mistakes the administration is making that
1:09:12
will affect the midterms.
1:09:14
And Bondi is the best example of it.
1:09:16
But so I got these three BBC clips,
1:09:19
which I think, because they have an analyst
1:09:20
come in, who's obviously biased against Trump, but
1:09:25
I have to agree with everything he says
1:09:27
about Bondi.
1:09:28
She goes into front of Congress, and she
1:09:32
gets into a big battle with everybody, because
1:09:34
she won't answer questions to the Democrats.
1:09:37
And the Democrats are a-holes.
1:09:39
You're a failed lawyer.
1:09:40
I mean, okay.
1:09:42
It's ridiculous.
1:09:43
Yeah, it's a failed lawyer thing.
1:09:45
No, Raskin was funny, though.
1:09:46
Jamie Raskin's a dick, and he's a communist,
1:09:50
and he's the worst person in Congress.
1:09:52
And she goes after it with him.
1:09:55
But again, you want to play these clips?
1:09:59
Yeah, yeah, of course.
1:09:59
Of course, it's great.
1:10:01
This is the BBC report on the hearings.
1:10:03
I could have gone and gotten clips.
1:10:06
No, everyone's doing that.
1:10:08
Yeah, no, this analysis is better.
1:10:10
Then you'd be Megyn Kelly.
1:10:14
Clip me, clip me.
1:10:16
Put it on social media.
1:10:17
Turning now to the tense scenes on Capitol
1:10:20
Hill today, as US Attorney General Pam Bondi
1:10:22
faced heavy scrutiny from a congressional panel about
1:10:25
her handling of the Epstein files.
1:10:27
In often combative exchanges, Democrats on the House
1:10:30
Judiciary Committee accused the Justice Department of an
1:10:33
active cover-up.
1:10:34
The lawmakers criticized the slow release of documents
1:10:37
and the choice to censor names of alleged
1:10:39
co-conspirators over those of victims.
1:10:42
Here's one particularly heated exchange between Pam Bondi
1:10:45
and Republican Congressman Thomas Massey.
1:10:48
My position is any victim who comes forward,
1:10:52
of course, we would love to hear from
1:10:55
them.
1:10:55
1-800-CALL-FBI.
1:10:58
Did you ask Merrick Garland that the last
1:11:01
four years?
1:11:02
Did you talk about Epstein?
1:11:03
I am reclaiming my time.
1:11:05
I'm glad you're asking about Merrick Garland because
1:11:08
this is bigger than Watergate.
1:11:10
This goes over four administrations.
1:11:13
You don't have to go back to Biden.
1:11:15
Let's go back to Obama.
1:11:16
Let's go back to George Bush.
1:11:18
This cover-up spans decades and you are
1:11:21
responsible for this portion of it.
1:11:24
Now, Pam Bondi admitted in a letter to
1:11:26
federal judges this week that mistakes were made
1:11:29
in the Epstein case.
1:11:30
But at Wednesday's congressional hearing, the attorney general
1:11:33
defended her department's strategy saying hundreds of lawyers
1:11:36
worked on a compressed timeline to review millions
1:11:38
of pages and that any disclosure of victims'
1:11:41
identities were inadvertent.
1:11:43
Take a listen.
1:11:44
I want to take a moment to acknowledge
1:11:46
the Epstein survivors who are here today.
1:11:48
I'm a career prosecutor and despite what the
1:11:51
ranking member said, I have spent my entire
1:11:54
career fighting for victims and I will continue
1:11:58
to do so.
1:12:00
I am deeply sorry for what any victim,
1:12:03
any victim has been through, especially as a
1:12:06
result of that monster.
1:12:08
The Department of Justice is committed to holding
1:12:11
criminals accountable to the fullest extent of the
1:12:14
law.
1:12:15
I still would like a news outlet to
1:12:18
give me a definition of victim.
1:12:21
You know, were you a victim because you
1:12:25
were underage?
1:12:26
Were you a victim because you got sucked
1:12:28
up into something you should have stayed away
1:12:30
with?
1:12:32
Stayed away from?
1:12:34
You know, just throw out victims and survivors
1:12:37
and I'd like to know a little bit
1:12:39
more.
1:12:39
Yeah, I'm in agreement with you on this.
1:12:42
It's vague.
1:12:44
It's very vague.
1:12:44
The whole thing is very vague.
1:12:46
And so they bring this guy on to
1:12:48
talk about- Let me just add to
1:12:49
that.
1:12:50
Is there a victim who was truly underage
1:12:53
and sexually abused by Epstein or any of
1:12:56
the co-conspirators?
1:12:57
If so, why can't they speak?
1:13:01
Why are they not out there speaking about
1:13:03
it?
1:13:04
This is what I don't understand.
1:13:05
I don't understand.
1:13:07
It seems like that would be a good
1:13:09
thing to do.
1:13:10
Tell us what happened.
1:13:12
You know, where's the 60 Minutes interview?
1:13:16
It seems like, it feels like something's missing
1:13:18
here from the equation if it is what
1:13:20
we're told it is.
1:13:21
There's something missing.
1:13:22
Yeah.
1:13:23
But I think there's a lot missing.
1:13:24
Yeah.
1:13:25
And of course, did you see the video
1:13:26
that guy sent this morning that floated over
1:13:28
this?
1:13:29
It was a song presented the history of
1:13:32
Epstein based in a song form.
1:13:35
Oh, the video?
1:13:35
Yeah, I've seen that.
1:13:38
Where they got everybody tied up in one
1:13:40
big giant ball?
1:13:41
It's dynamite.
1:13:43
It's dynamite.
1:13:44
That's worth the $1.3 trillion investment right
1:13:47
there.
1:13:49
So they bring this guy, and I have
1:13:51
to agree with this guy and his analysis
1:13:53
of Bond.
1:13:54
Of course, the two of us, I think
1:13:57
Bond is a doofus.
1:14:00
She's not talented and she's combative and she
1:14:04
doesn't present well.
1:14:05
She's not well-spoken and her argument's weak
1:14:10
and she snaps and she doesn't do anything.
1:14:14
She's a do nothing.
1:14:15
Well, it's almost as though they're making the
1:14:18
public suffer because Matt Gaetz got kicked out.
1:14:24
He was the original choice who would have
1:14:25
probably been an interesting attorney general, I think,
1:14:29
but they kicked him out and he didn't
1:14:32
even get back into Congress and they're making
1:14:36
us suffer.
1:14:37
Well, I mean, the correct way to handle
1:14:39
a hostile Congress interrogation is not this way.
1:14:45
You want to be cool.
1:14:46
You want to have sharp...
1:14:48
That's why Rubio is so good at it.
1:14:50
Yes, and Rubio has very sharp, very fast,
1:14:53
good answers, parades like no one else.
1:14:56
But Bond, he just goes, you're a failed
1:15:00
lawyer.
1:15:03
You don't care about people killed by illegal
1:15:06
immigrants.
1:15:06
Okay, you're mixing apples with oranges.
1:15:09
I understand it should have been about ICE
1:15:13
and DHS.
1:15:14
I believe that's what the session was for,
1:15:17
but it obviously devolved into Epstein.
1:15:21
And, you know, just sit there, well, you
1:15:22
don't care that a sitting Congresswoman took money
1:15:25
from Epstein.
1:15:26
You don't care that you took money from
1:15:27
Epstein, Ro Khanna, Rohana.
1:15:30
You know, it's like, that's not, that's what
1:15:32
they call bullcrap.
1:15:33
No, she's not doing a good job, no.
1:15:37
But then it gets compounded as we listen
1:15:40
to, when we listen to this analyst who
1:15:42
has a lot to say.
1:15:43
Let's speak about that congressional hearing today with
1:15:45
Ankush Kardori, senior writer for Political Magazine and
1:15:48
a former federal prosecutor at the Department of
1:15:51
Justice.
1:15:52
It's good to have you back with us
1:15:53
on the program today.
1:15:54
What do you think we learned, if anything,
1:15:57
from the hearing today?
1:15:58
We learned nothing, except we learned a little
1:16:01
bit more for people who had already didn't
1:16:03
know about the professionalism or utter lack thereof
1:16:07
of the top law enforcement official in our
1:16:09
country.
1:16:11
I thought, well, let me put it this
1:16:12
way.
1:16:12
If you saw someone acting like she did
1:16:15
today, like at the table over at a
1:16:18
restaurant, if you were out to dinner, you
1:16:20
would ask yourself, is this person okay?
1:16:22
And you'd probably ask management to escort them
1:16:24
from the restaurant.
1:16:26
This is now the person who is our
1:16:27
attorney general.
1:16:28
I thought it was an embarrassment to her,
1:16:30
the department, and frankly, our country on their
1:16:32
international stage.
1:16:33
Also, why isn't anyone asking, the people who
1:16:37
are in the emails talking about pizza and
1:16:39
jerky?
1:16:41
That's something I'd like to understand.
1:16:43
Do you really put jerky in the freezer?
1:16:46
Could you explain that to me?
1:16:47
This is what I'm interested in, if anything.
1:16:51
No, there's none of that.
1:16:52
No one asked.
1:16:53
You're never going to get any of that.
1:16:54
That's verboten.
1:16:56
Yeah.
1:16:59
Okay, so onward.
1:17:02
You're still in clip two?
1:17:03
We're on to the three is lined up
1:17:05
and good to go in my Linux play
1:17:07
out system.
1:17:08
Good.
1:17:09
If you look at the exchanges there, there
1:17:11
were certainly plenty of shouting going back and
1:17:14
forth with Democrats as well.
1:17:16
What was the point for Democrats here?
1:17:19
Is this about viral clips that they can
1:17:21
post online as well?
1:17:22
Well, look, yeah.
1:17:23
Part of these hearings always have a performative
1:17:26
element to them.
1:17:26
Unfortunately, in this day and age, yeah, I
1:17:28
think many members are focused on getting bites
1:17:31
that they can post to their social media.
1:17:32
But I kind of, yeah, they were going
1:17:34
back and forth with Democrats, but she wasn't
1:17:36
answering their questions.
1:17:37
And she was yelling at them, and she
1:17:39
was trying to change the subject.
1:17:40
She was filibustering endless non sequiturs.
1:17:43
So this was her fault.
1:17:45
The point that she made a few times
1:17:47
there is, why did you not ask these
1:17:49
questions of Merrick Garland, who was the attorney
1:17:51
general under Joe Biden?
1:17:53
And that again is a point that the
1:17:54
Trump administration and many of President Trump's allies
1:17:57
have made, that Democrats are taking advantage of
1:18:01
the Epstein files to try to detract from
1:18:04
the administration.
1:18:05
What do you make of that argument?
1:18:06
Yeah, it's the logic of a five year
1:18:08
old.
1:18:09
This administration came into office promising to release
1:18:12
this material.
1:18:13
They then spent all yet last year hemming,
1:18:15
hawing, backtracking, undertaking really disgusting efforts to mislead
1:18:19
the public, including spending two days with Ghislaine
1:18:21
Maxwell as if she's not a monster.
1:18:24
And so, and then we had Pam Bondi
1:18:27
with the binders and the clientless is on
1:18:29
my desk.
1:18:29
I mean, they created this mess.
1:18:31
So yes, there is an element of politics
1:18:34
on the side of the Democrats, for sure.
1:18:37
I was not a fan of this law.
1:18:38
I didn't want it to pass.
1:18:39
So don't get me wrong on that.
1:18:40
But the state of affairs in our country
1:18:43
right now is a function of the fact
1:18:45
that the president, his vice president, his FBI
1:18:47
director, and until recently, deputy FBI director spent
1:18:51
years spitting up these conspiracy theories.
1:18:53
So it's kind of nuts for her of
1:18:54
all people to like try to make this
1:18:57
someone else's problem.
1:18:58
She is the one who did multiple Fox
1:19:00
interviews next last year, hyping this up, the
1:19:02
binders, more is coming, the clientless, yada, yada,
1:19:05
yada.
1:19:05
Yada, yada, yada.
1:19:07
Well, he said, yada, yada, yada.
1:19:09
Well, the point I think he made, which
1:19:11
I agree with is that she brought this
1:19:13
on herself.
1:19:13
She had to, oh, this on my desk.
1:19:15
Oh, here's the binders.
1:19:17
Here's this, she's terrible.
1:19:19
Yes, I completely agree with that.
1:19:21
That was an idiotic move.
1:19:23
That's really, that's what screwed it all up.
1:19:27
Yeah, it's her.
1:19:30
Yeah, she's gotta go.
1:19:31
I have a couple of clips about this.
1:19:36
What, what, hmm, what?
1:19:38
Well, my browser's not working right.
1:19:40
Well, are you using Bravo?
1:19:45
No, I'm using HBO.
1:19:48
This is a prime minister's question time because
1:19:51
of course what's happening in the EU and
1:19:54
the UK is much more interesting as it
1:19:57
pertains to the Epstein files.
1:20:00
Yes, by far.
1:20:01
And Keir Starmer is under a lot of
1:20:04
scrutiny and stress mainly because, and you know,
1:20:08
all they talk about is, well, you knew
1:20:10
he was a, you know, he was a
1:20:12
sex trafficker.
1:20:13
You knew all this.
1:20:14
How about the fact that he was leaking
1:20:18
really sensitive information about a 500 billion euro
1:20:24
bailout during 2008, five minutes after he found
1:20:28
out devaluation of the pound, five minutes after
1:20:31
he found out telling Epstein that.
1:20:34
I mean, think, think about the people who
1:20:36
were in on that gambit.
1:20:38
If you, I mean, when it comes to
1:20:40
foreign exchange, if you know there's a big
1:20:42
bailout coming and it's secret, place your bets.
1:20:46
Oh yeah, no, it's easy money.
1:20:48
And if Epstein knew it, then he probably
1:20:50
called all of his buddies.
1:20:52
That's an outrage.
1:20:54
Anyway, here's prime minister's question time.
1:20:56
Mr. Speaker, I asked the prime minister a
1:20:58
very specific question.
1:21:00
Did he know that Mandelson had continued his
1:21:03
friendship with Epstein after the conviction?
1:21:06
He says if he knew then what he
1:21:09
knows now, but he did know in January,
1:21:12
2024, a journalist from the financial times informed
1:21:15
the prime minister that Mandelson had stayed in
1:21:18
Epstein's house even after that conviction for child
1:21:23
prostitution.
1:21:24
So did the prime minister conveniently forget this
1:21:27
fact or did he decide it was a
1:21:30
risk worth taking?
1:21:33
Mr. Speaker, as the house would expect, we
1:21:37
went through a process.
1:21:40
There was a due diligence exercise and then
1:21:45
there was security vetting by the security services.
1:21:52
What was not known was the depth, the
1:21:55
sheer depth and extent of the relationship.
1:21:59
He lied about that to everyone for years.
1:22:04
A new information was published in September showing
1:22:07
the relationship was materially different to what we'd
1:22:11
been led to believe.
1:22:13
When the new information came to light, I
1:22:16
sacked him.
1:22:17
Oh yes, I sacked him.
1:22:18
You already knew that.
1:22:20
You already knew.
1:22:22
And now the guys working for Starmer are
1:22:24
bailing.
1:22:25
The rats are leaving the ship.
1:22:27
It's the second high profile exit from Keir
1:22:29
Starmer's entourage in as many days.
1:22:32
Tim Allen, the UK prime minister's communications chief
1:22:36
said he was standing down to make way
1:22:38
for a new team to be built at
1:22:40
number 10 Downing Street.
1:22:42
It's part of the fallout over Keir Starmer's
1:22:44
decision to appoint Peter Mandelson as ambassador to
1:22:47
the United States.
1:22:48
Despite knowing Mandelson had maintained links to the
1:22:51
convicted sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein.
1:22:54
On Sunday, Starmer's chief of staff, Morgan McSweeney,
1:22:57
quit.
1:22:58
In a statement, McSweeney said he took responsibility
1:23:00
for pushing the appointment of Mandelson.
1:23:03
It was interpreted in the British press as
1:23:05
a move to buy the prime minister more
1:23:07
time.
1:23:08
Starmer, though, is still facing calls to step
1:23:10
down, including from the leader of Scotland's Labour
1:23:13
Party.
1:23:14
Meanwhile, Conservative party leader Kemi Badenoch accused him
1:23:17
of being unable to run his government.
1:23:20
The prime minister is the architect of his
1:23:22
own misfortunes.
1:23:24
Right now, we have a government that's focusing
1:23:26
purely on its own internal psychodrama.
1:23:29
Enough of that.
1:23:30
It is time for them to get a
1:23:31
grip and start governing the country.
1:23:34
Controversy around Peter Mandelson reignited after a new
1:23:37
batch of files related to Jeffrey Epstein were
1:23:40
released just over a week ago in the
1:23:42
United States.
1:23:43
Documents appeared to indicate Mandelson had leaked sensitive
1:23:46
information to Epstein while he was a government
1:23:49
minister.
1:23:50
There were also records of payments from Epstein
1:23:52
to accounts linked to the British politician or
1:23:55
his partner.
1:23:57
Starmer sacked the US ambassador in September, but
1:24:00
the latest revelations prompted Mandelson to resign from
1:24:03
the Labour Party and the House of Lords
1:24:05
while police are investigating him for potential misconduct
1:24:08
in public office.
1:24:10
On Monday, a spokesperson for Keir Starmer said
1:24:12
he was focused on getting the job done
1:24:14
and had no plans to step aside.
1:24:17
That Mandelson.
1:24:19
Man, they don't even really...
1:24:20
BBC doesn't even say it.
1:24:22
He was...
1:24:22
Sensitive information?
1:24:24
That was world-shattering information.
1:24:27
And then, well, you know, hey, if you're
1:24:30
going to send 75,000 to my husband,
1:24:33
my partner, just say it's a loan so
1:24:36
there'll be no tax implication for him.
1:24:38
But come on.
1:24:40
The corruption by...
1:24:42
By...
1:24:43
The by.
1:24:46
Wow.
1:24:47
Saved myself.
1:24:48
See, you're better than I am at this.
1:24:49
By the by.
1:24:51
Annoying as hell.
1:24:52
By the way of Jesus.
1:24:55
I don't think Mandelson is long for this
1:24:58
world.
1:25:00
There's...
1:25:00
There's got to be more.
1:25:02
There's got to be a lot more and
1:25:03
nobody wants anyone snooping around Mandelson.
1:25:07
You know, there's also the strange thing I
1:25:10
put in the...
1:25:11
I think it was in a newsletter I
1:25:12
mentioned this.
1:25:13
The gay angle all of a sudden shows
1:25:15
up.
1:25:16
With this...
1:25:17
With this Russian guy who's...
1:25:19
Yeah.
1:25:19
Bill Gates and he's...
1:25:21
Wants to meet some boys or something and
1:25:23
they're kind of going back and forth some
1:25:25
emails that he discovered and he wants to
1:25:28
meet Kevin Spacey who is, you know...
1:25:30
Because Kevin knows all the young boys.
1:25:33
Yeah, basically, you know, it's just...
1:25:35
The whole thing is like...
1:25:38
It's tawdry and...
1:25:39
All kinds of dimensionally tawdry.
1:25:43
Yes, tawdry.
1:25:44
I like that.
1:25:44
It's tawdry.
1:25:46
That's a very good term.
1:25:48
Tawdry.
1:25:50
Gordon Brown comes out trying to give some
1:25:52
kind of defense for...
1:25:54
Another one of them.
1:25:56
Another great guy.
1:25:57
Well, he has clearly said it was the
1:25:59
wrong decision and it was the wrong decision
1:26:01
just as I made a mistake.
1:26:02
He made a mistake.
1:26:04
But equally, I think you've got to say
1:26:05
of Keir Starmer that there's very few people...
1:26:08
What was Gordon Brown's mistake?
1:26:10
I don't know.
1:26:11
I don't remember.
1:26:12
Something.
1:26:13
Besides...
1:26:13
He made a mistake.
1:26:14
Besides breaking the Bank of England.
1:26:17
Besides that, yeah.
1:26:17
Minor mistake.
1:26:19
A mistake.
1:26:20
He made a mistake.
1:26:21
But equally, I think you've got to say
1:26:23
of Keir Starmer that there's very few people
1:26:25
that you can say have got the same
1:26:27
amount of integrity as Keir Starmer has.
1:26:29
He was director of public prosecutions, did a
1:26:32
brilliant job.
1:26:33
He's a...
1:26:33
Public...
1:26:34
He was in charge of prosecutions.
1:26:35
That is the guy who should absolutely know
1:26:38
that it was not a good idea to
1:26:39
put Mandelson in.
1:26:40
Or maybe the most brilliant idea ever.
1:26:44
Director of public prosecutions, did a brilliant job.
1:26:47
He's a serious man who wants to do
1:26:49
the right thing in British politics.
1:26:51
If he made a mistake, he owns up
1:26:53
to it.
1:26:54
But I think the question now for Keir
1:26:56
Starmer is, is he prepared and will he
1:26:58
be prepared to bring in the reforms that
1:27:00
are necessary to end these abuses?
1:27:02
What we're dealing with is...
1:27:04
What reforms are you going to bring in
1:27:06
to end these abuses?
1:27:07
What is he talking about?
1:27:10
Reforms.
1:27:11
In the reforms that are necessary to end
1:27:13
these abuses, what we're dealing with is the
1:27:16
abuse of power.
1:27:17
We're dealing with the systematic abuse of power
1:27:19
by lobbyists, by people who are corrupt, by
1:27:23
people who don't give proper...
1:27:24
By politicians and their cronies, Gordon Brown.
1:27:27
Information when they're asked to disclose information.
1:27:30
We're dealing with a lack of transparency in
1:27:32
the system.
1:27:33
All these things.
1:27:34
And by the way, I did a report
1:27:35
for Keir...
1:27:36
Oh, by the way!
1:27:37
...that this be done.
1:27:38
And this is the report that should be
1:27:40
taken...
1:27:40
You see how bad it sounds when you
1:27:41
hear someone say it?
1:27:42
It sounds like, he's lying now.
1:27:44
By the way is not a good term.
1:27:46
We're dealing with a lack of transparency in
1:27:48
the system.
1:27:49
All these things.
1:27:50
And by the way, I did a report
1:27:51
for Keir recommending all that this be done.
1:27:54
And this is the report that should be
1:27:56
taken up.
1:27:56
There are four areas where we need to
1:27:58
make major reforms.
1:27:59
They could be done within weeks with the
1:28:01
support of members of Parliament in the House
1:28:03
of Commons.
1:28:04
And I believe it would be possible.
1:28:06
We could start to clean up the system
1:28:07
from tomorrow.
1:28:08
But it's got to be done.
1:28:10
You know, what this has created is a
1:28:13
complete...
1:28:14
On the heels of COVID, obviously.
1:28:16
A complete and total lack of trust for
1:28:22
government.
1:28:23
Across the board, every country, everywhere.
1:28:26
No one, no one trusts government anymore.
1:28:30
Not even those, the nutjobs protesting in Minneapolis.
1:28:35
And I don't know if...
1:28:37
Can any country recover from that?
1:28:42
What are the historical analogs to this?
1:28:46
Well, the history of the United States, I
1:28:48
think, is part of it.
1:28:50
Yeah.
1:28:50
And what do we wind up in?
1:28:52
In the 1800s, we had a bunch of
1:28:53
doofuses running things.
1:28:56
And what happened?
1:28:57
What happened when the...
1:28:58
You just come out of it somehow.
1:29:01
I was looking for more of a historian
1:29:03
angle there.
1:29:05
Well, that's the best I can do.
1:29:08
I'd hope for more.
1:29:10
Well, yeah, you can hope all you want.
1:29:11
Yeah, obviously.
1:29:14
And then we have...
1:29:15
I was explaining to someone about the Olympics,
1:29:18
about the IOC.
1:29:19
I said, what's the IOC?
1:29:21
The International Olympic Committee.
1:29:23
And they have all these country committees.
1:29:25
What is it?
1:29:25
I said, it's the most corrupt organization.
1:29:30
Maybe...
1:29:30
Well, there's a couple that would rival it.
1:29:33
The most corrupt corporation.
1:29:35
But what you do is you leave politics
1:29:37
and then you go to the IOC.
1:29:40
Every IOC of every country is filled with
1:29:43
former politicians and they get paid for being
1:29:45
part of the board and going on the
1:29:47
board.
1:29:47
And they all have their buddies with big...
1:29:50
Hey, I see advertising on the Olympics.
1:29:53
I don't know about you.
1:29:53
You know, it's a huge boondoggle, especially the
1:29:58
summer Olympics.
1:29:59
We got to build a stadium and that's
1:30:03
going to bankrupt the country.
1:30:04
And then some dude will come in and
1:30:06
buy it for a team that he just
1:30:07
bought.
1:30:08
It's a mess.
1:30:09
It's a mess.
1:30:11
But, oh, don't worry.
1:30:12
We'll take care of you.
1:30:14
The city's Olympic Organizing Committee, LA28, is standing
1:30:17
by its chairman, Casey Wasserman.
1:30:19
Wasserman's name is in the latest batch of
1:30:22
Epstein files.
1:30:23
He traveled on Epstein's private jet once and
1:30:26
later exchanged racy emails with Epstein conspirator Ghislaine
1:30:30
Maxwell.
1:30:31
Today, LA28's executive board issuing a statement saying
1:30:35
they've reviewed the situation and Wasserman fully cooperated.
1:30:39
They say his relationship with Epstein and Maxwell
1:30:42
did not go beyond what is publicly known.
1:30:45
And given Wasserman's strong leadership, he will be
1:30:47
staying on as chairman of LA28.
1:30:51
Of course.
1:30:51
Why not?
1:30:52
I'm sure there'll be some hotties at the
1:30:55
Olympics this year.
1:30:56
Just let him let him do his thing.
1:31:00
Yeah, it's a good one.
1:31:02
It's complete, complete loss of trust, which for
1:31:07
me, it already happened.
1:31:09
And someone pointed out, and that was a
1:31:11
good point, that we, they keep reminding us,
1:31:14
hey, man, the lockdowns happened under Trump.
1:31:16
Yes, absolutely.
1:31:18
Trump got bamboozled too.
1:31:21
And still can't really admit that the vaccines
1:31:25
were not a good idea.
1:31:27
Which is, I think, still very disappointing.
1:31:31
Yeah, but he likes the idea that this
1:31:32
warp speed, you know, he was responsible for
1:31:36
it happening faster than ever.
1:31:37
And he's just kind of can't bring himself.
1:31:39
Well, we completely, he was bamboozled is the
1:31:43
right word.
1:31:44
And by the way, where was the first
1:31:45
lockdown?
1:31:46
By the way, he said, by the way,
1:31:50
where was the first lockdown?
1:31:52
Where was the first lockdown?
1:31:53
China?
1:31:54
And no, it was San Francisco.
1:31:56
Oh, yes.
1:32:00
Yes, and you have to continue to hound
1:32:02
me.
1:32:02
So I'm two to nothing on this.
1:32:05
And I'll say this about the lockdowns.
1:32:08
Trump didn't lock down anything.
1:32:10
It was Birx who went to every single
1:32:13
state, all the governors, and convinced the governors
1:32:15
to do it.
1:32:17
That's why I don't like Abbott.
1:32:19
That's how that went down.
1:32:24
That was the back channel that was very
1:32:28
successful.
1:32:30
And of course, President Trump could.
1:32:32
And you liked Birx when she first showed
1:32:34
up.
1:32:34
First two weeks.
1:32:35
First two weeks.
1:32:35
Yeah, I mean, you like saying that.
1:32:37
You're a Birx fan.
1:32:38
You like saying that.
1:32:40
But after two weeks, I think we very
1:32:42
clearly saw what was going on.
1:32:44
And we may have saved lives.
1:32:46
Well, we saw what was going on.
1:32:48
I think it was triggered personally, at least
1:32:50
what triggered me.
1:32:52
I've thought about this, you know, why were
1:32:54
we so caught up in this the way
1:32:58
we were?
1:32:58
It's because of that French Nobel Prize winner.
1:33:01
Yeah, yeah.
1:33:03
Who looked at the genome, at the map
1:33:05
of the thing and said, this is bullcrap.
1:33:07
This thing is obviously created in a lab.
1:33:10
And here's the reasons why.
1:33:12
And he says, and what's this HIV thing
1:33:13
doing in here?
1:33:14
It doesn't make any sense.
1:33:15
Don't worry about it.
1:33:17
It'll just revert, which it did.
1:33:19
It has reverted, just like he said.
1:33:22
Today's COVID is nothing like the original.
1:33:25
It's reverted back to a common cold.
1:33:28
Or flu.
1:33:29
Yeah, I think one of the two.
1:33:31
Unfortunately, we still have blowback.
1:33:34
This is your typical report.
1:33:36
This is also from KTLA.
1:33:39
The death of Dawson's Creek actor James Van
1:33:42
Der Beek comes after he was diagnosed with
1:33:45
stage 3 colorectal cancer.
1:33:47
His passing is renewing concern about a disease
1:33:50
that's rising among younger adults.
1:33:53
These are young men still in the primes
1:33:55
of their career, and now we lost them.
1:33:57
According to the American Cancer Society, it's now
1:34:00
the leading cause of cancer deaths in Americans
1:34:02
under 50.
1:34:03
About one in five new cases is diagnosed
1:34:06
in someone under 55.
1:34:08
Americans, we don't like to talk about the
1:34:11
health of our butts.
1:34:13
And so there's a certain shame and embarrassment
1:34:15
surrounding that.
1:34:17
Gustavo says he ignored his doctor's recommendation to
1:34:20
get screened at 45 until a reminder during
1:34:24
a physical pushed him to finally schedule a
1:34:27
colonoscopy.
1:34:28
And it said that they found three polyps.
1:34:30
If I had even waited months more, they
1:34:34
found three of them.
1:34:35
How much bigger could they have been?
1:34:36
Polyps can develop into cancer if left untreated.
1:34:39
Doctors say that's why screenings are so important.
1:34:43
If you can get it early, then you
1:34:46
can completely eradicate it and you will have
1:34:48
no further problems.
1:34:50
If it's later stage, it could be widespread
1:34:53
to other organs at the time you're diagnosed.
1:34:56
Researchers are still working to understand exactly why
1:34:59
cases are increasing in younger people.
1:35:02
But doctors say whatever the cause, the solution
1:35:04
starts with awareness.
1:35:08
What could the cause be?
1:35:10
Yeah, it seems that this is something new.
1:35:13
I wonder why.
1:35:14
I have no idea what could have changed.
1:35:16
Was he an actor or somebody who was
1:35:18
forced to get the vaccine to work?
1:35:20
Oh, man, there's going to be such as
1:35:21
so many openings in Hollywood.
1:35:24
I hate to say it, but.
1:35:26
Yeah.
1:35:28
Meanwhile, the FDA just refused Moderna's application for
1:35:31
an MRNA flu vaccine.
1:35:33
Praise God.
1:35:36
Someone, someone got smart over there.
1:35:38
Thank you.
1:35:39
Maybe RFK Jr. The one that.
1:35:43
Oh, did you know this is just a
1:35:44
it's just a momentary lapse.
1:35:48
This will go back into full gear toward
1:35:50
the other in the other direction.
1:35:52
You you're so cynical.
1:35:54
No, I'm not cynical.
1:35:55
I'm a realist.
1:35:56
Stop with your realist.
1:35:57
You're not always right.
1:35:59
Not always.
1:36:00
I mean, sometimes.
1:36:04
You see about this stuff, I'm pretty, pretty
1:36:07
on the money.
1:36:08
The the GLP one, the.
1:36:12
I'm still waiting for it to solve erectile
1:36:15
dysfunction.
1:36:16
Please stop sending me articles about how it
1:36:18
enlarges the penis.
1:36:19
It's not the same thing.
1:36:22
OK, people keep sending me this.
1:36:24
You were right.
1:36:25
No, it's when they say it solves erectile
1:36:29
dysfunction, then I will be right.
1:36:32
It's coming.
1:36:33
It's it's coming.
1:36:34
But right now, one of the new.
1:36:36
They have to roll this stuff out.
1:36:39
It this marketing one on one.
1:36:41
You don't throw everything at the at the
1:36:43
side of the wall right away.
1:36:45
You do one gob at a time and
1:36:47
then that catches on and you pick up
1:36:49
some more of the market share.
1:36:50
And then you throw another thing out there
1:36:52
and another thing.
1:36:53
Your thing is just happens to be low
1:36:55
on the list.
1:36:55
It's going to be at the bottom.
1:36:56
It's going to be at the end.
1:36:57
It'll be the hail Mary's closing argument.
1:36:59
The hail Mary.
1:37:01
We'll be a hail Mary at the time.
1:37:03
It'll be the how much more can we
1:37:06
squeeze out of it?
1:37:08
The squeeze was the last drop we can
1:37:10
get out of this bullcrap.
1:37:13
One of the side effects, a very high
1:37:15
profile side effect comes to us from Robbie
1:37:19
Williams, British pop singer.
1:37:22
Yeah, I've always liked Robbie Williams.
1:37:24
I've always liked his stuff.
1:37:25
Famous in the UK, but he's never really
1:37:28
that big in the in the States.
1:37:29
No, but he is famous in the big,
1:37:31
big, big.
1:37:32
We just outsold the Beatles, I guess, in
1:37:35
in the UK, whatever that means.
1:37:37
Had more number one hits or something.
1:37:41
He came out and said he was diagnosed
1:37:44
with a 17th century pirate disease as a
1:37:48
side effect.
1:37:50
Yes, scurvy.
1:37:51
Exactly.
1:37:52
But it's a vitamin C deficiency.
1:37:54
It's no big deal.
1:37:55
But it sounds cool when you say Ozempic
1:37:58
will give you scurvy.
1:37:59
It's just, yeah, I guess Ozempic will give
1:38:02
you scurvy.
1:38:03
Yeah, scurvy.
1:38:07
Scurvy.
1:38:08
I tell you, scurvy.
1:38:10
I love it.
1:38:11
Pretty bad.
1:38:11
I love scurvy.
1:38:12
It's great.
1:38:13
That's great.
1:38:14
I wanted to get these clips out of
1:38:15
the way.
1:38:16
This is a, you know, as the Nancy
1:38:18
Guthrie thing was dominating the news, except on
1:38:21
Ms. Now.
1:38:22
Can I just stop you for a second?
1:38:25
What do you think happened?
1:38:26
Do you think that it was an illegal
1:38:27
that killed her?
1:38:29
At this point, yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
1:38:31
I think that's a reasonable, reasonable assessment.
1:38:34
What was the other one we were looking
1:38:35
at?
1:38:36
Oh, the pregnant astronaut.
1:38:38
Do we have any more updates on that?
1:38:40
No, not yet, but it's coming.
1:38:42
It's coming.
1:38:43
She's going to have a baby and we'll
1:38:44
know when that happens.
1:38:46
We'll do the math.
1:38:46
Mimi says that maybe Mimi had an offbeat
1:38:49
thing.
1:38:50
She was getting sick of the Guthrie stuff.
1:38:54
And she says, I think she was the
1:38:57
leader of a massive Mexican drug cartel.
1:39:00
Okay.
1:39:00
All right.
1:39:01
The one I like is her husband worked
1:39:04
for Clinton and she knew where the bodies
1:39:06
were buried, so they had to get rid
1:39:07
of her.
1:39:09
There are people who I know and love
1:39:12
and have been corresponding with on email for
1:39:14
a long time.
1:39:15
We're like, this is all set up.
1:39:18
This is all, you know, it's just like,
1:39:20
no, it's going to be a lot easier
1:39:22
than that.
1:39:22
Epstein used her house.
1:39:24
Yeah.
1:39:24
Where's that coming out?
1:39:25
Oh, no, of course.
1:39:26
Of course.
1:39:27
All of that.
1:39:28
And that's the problem when people lose trust
1:39:31
in their government.
1:39:31
They go nuts.
1:39:34
Then everything is a conspiracy.
1:39:36
And a lot of it is.
1:39:38
But there's a lot of conspiracies.
1:39:39
Actual conspiracies.
1:39:42
Yeah, it turns out.
1:39:44
Yes.
1:39:45
So while that was being covered to excess.
1:39:47
Yes.
1:39:49
The Canadian trans shooter.
1:39:51
Oh, yeah.
1:39:53
Is pretty much dropped by the American media.
1:39:57
Can't talk about that.
1:39:59
I think it was a cover up because
1:40:00
you own another.
1:40:02
You can just see it in the editorial
1:40:04
rooms.
1:40:04
Do we have to bring this another trans
1:40:07
shooter?
1:40:08
This is getting tiresome.
1:40:10
And so here we go.
1:40:10
The BBC had a nice report.
1:40:12
Here we go.
1:40:13
Canada reels from one of the worst mass
1:40:15
shootings in its history.
1:40:16
Police named the suspect as 18-year-old
1:40:19
Jesse van Rutselaar.
1:40:20
Eight people were killed and 25 people injured
1:40:24
in the attacks at Tumbler Ridge Secondary School
1:40:26
and a private home.
1:40:28
It happened in the westernmost province of British
1:40:30
Columbia, in the remote town of Tumbler Ridge
1:40:32
at the foot of the Rocky Mountains.
1:40:35
Six of the victims were killed at the
1:40:37
town's secondary school.
1:40:38
One died on their way to the hospital.
1:40:40
Another two were found in a nearby house.
1:40:43
In all, 25 other people were injured.
1:40:45
And police say the body of the suspected
1:40:47
shooter was found at the school.
1:40:49
Police say they don't yet have a motive
1:40:51
and they gave this update to reporters.
1:40:54
On February 10th at approximately 1.20 p
1:40:57
.m. Pacific Standard Time at Tumbler Ridge, RCMP
1:41:01
received a report of an active shooter at
1:41:04
Tumbler Ridge Secondary School.
1:41:06
A police-initiated public alert, PIPA, was issued
1:41:09
as officers responded.
1:41:11
Police from Tumbler Ridge RCMP and surrounding detachments
1:41:14
responded immediately, with members from the local detachment
1:41:17
arriving within two minutes of the initial call.
1:41:20
Upon arrival, there was active gunfire, and as
1:41:23
officers approached the school, rounds were fired in
1:41:26
their direction.
1:41:27
Officers entered the school to locate the threat.
1:41:30
Within minutes, an individual confirmed to be the
1:41:32
shooter was located deceased, with what appeared to
1:41:35
be a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
1:41:38
The suspect has been identified as 18-year
1:41:40
-old Jesse Van Roetzelar, who is a resident
1:41:43
of Tumbler Ridge.
1:41:44
Two firearms, a long gun and a modified
1:41:47
handgun, were recovered by responding officers.
1:41:51
Determining the origin of these firearms and what
1:41:53
role they played in the shootings remains a
1:41:56
significant part of the active and ongoing investigation.
1:41:59
Yeah.
1:42:00
What role they played, the people or the
1:42:02
guns?
1:42:04
Well, the guns, the role they played was
1:42:06
they shot people.
1:42:07
I saw a post, who knows if it's
1:42:10
true, that a lot of the kids who
1:42:13
were killed also seemed to be somewhat alternatively
1:42:20
dressed and perhaps trans as well.
1:42:22
Did you see any of that?
1:42:24
No, I have not seen any evidence of
1:42:25
that.
1:42:25
The whole thing is horrible and so predictable.
1:42:29
So predictable.
1:42:32
And I guess there had already been problems
1:42:35
at that home, and they went to that
1:42:36
home and they removed guns.
1:42:38
Is Canada big on guns?
1:42:40
It's a mining town.
1:42:41
Maybe that's it.
1:42:44
Well, here we go with part two.
1:42:45
The second, this is all explained in these
1:42:47
clips.
1:42:48
Oh, good, good.
1:42:48
Our North America correspondent Netta Taufik is following
1:42:51
this story for us today.
1:42:52
Netta, it is good to see you.
1:42:54
The press conference that police delivered gave us
1:42:57
some more details about the suspect.
1:42:58
Tell us about what we know.
1:43:00
Yeah, that's right.
1:43:01
You know, police say that Jesse Van Roetzelar
1:43:04
is somebody who was known to them.
1:43:06
In fact, that they had visited the family
1:43:09
home several times over the last few years
1:43:13
for mental health reasons.
1:43:16
They say, in fact, that they had actually
1:43:18
taken Jesse Van Roetzelar in for evaluation and
1:43:23
assessment on a number of occasions, and that
1:43:26
also firearms in that home had been seized
1:43:31
under a criminal code, that they were able
1:43:34
to do that until the lawful owner of
1:43:37
those firearms petitioned the courts to have those
1:43:41
returned.
1:43:42
Remember, Sumi, the suspect had not only a
1:43:46
modified handgun, but a long gun in these
1:43:49
attacks there in Tumbler Ridge.
1:43:51
And what we also heard from police was
1:43:53
that this 18-year-old suspect is someone
1:43:56
who dropped out of Tumbler Ridge Secondary School
1:44:00
four years ago.
1:44:02
And that six years ago, Jesse Van Roetzelar,
1:44:06
who was born a biological male, began to
1:44:08
transition and identify as a female.
1:44:12
So quite a lot more detail on the
1:44:15
suspect.
1:44:15
But as far as motive, they say that
1:44:18
they aren't able to piece that together yet,
1:44:21
less than 24 hours after this attack.
1:44:24
Would you do the math on that?
1:44:27
Yeah, hit me again with that.
1:44:28
Six years?
1:44:30
He's 18.
1:44:32
Yeah.
1:44:33
Six years ago, he began to transition.
1:44:35
He was 12.
1:44:36
Oh, yeah.
1:44:39
Now, you got a 12-year-old prepubescent
1:44:41
kid, 12-year-old, you know, and this
1:44:46
is pretty interesting.
1:44:48
So you have, and now he's got trouble.
1:44:50
He's got problems.
1:44:51
And he dropped out of school four years
1:44:55
earlier at 14.
1:44:56
So he'd stopped going to school at the
1:44:58
age of 14, which is what, eighth grade?
1:45:02
I guess.
1:45:02
I don't know.
1:45:04
So anyway, all right.
1:45:05
Well, all right.
1:45:07
I'll have a comment after this third clip.
1:45:10
And what have police said about the timeline
1:45:12
of the attack?
1:45:13
Well, look, they say that Jesse Van Roetzelar
1:45:16
started at the family home where she allegedly
1:45:21
killed her mother and stepbrother.
1:45:24
And then from there, they say that the
1:45:27
suspect then targeted the school.
1:45:29
Now, we heard authorities saying that they were
1:45:31
on the scene within minutes, but they did
1:45:33
say that they heard gunfire when they arrived
1:45:37
and that the suspect did direct fire at
1:45:40
officers on the scene.
1:45:42
There, they said that they found six people
1:45:46
dead in the school, a female teacher, along
1:45:50
with five students from the ages of 12
1:45:54
to 13.
1:45:55
And all of that in a matter of
1:45:57
minutes.
1:45:57
Of course, we know that there are 25
1:45:59
others who were injured, Sumi.
1:46:01
Those two of those people were airlifted to
1:46:04
hospital, others still fighting for their lives in
1:46:08
hospital as we speak.
1:46:10
So for this small community, it really is
1:46:13
one of the worst mass shootings, of course,
1:46:15
in Canada's history.
1:46:16
But it is a profound loss for this
1:46:18
small, quiet community itself.
1:46:20
I need to get rid of all the
1:46:21
guns in Canada.
1:46:23
You know, the Canadians are freaky about guns
1:46:26
anyway.
1:46:26
But you'd think this would be this is
1:46:29
a lead story.
1:46:30
I'd think if I was running one of
1:46:32
the networks, but the lead story has been
1:46:33
the Nancy Guthrie story, which is providing no
1:46:37
information whatsoever.
1:46:39
Of course, they know.
1:46:41
I mean, they bring they put people out
1:46:43
there, they stand up, they do a segment
1:46:46
that last 10 minutes, they tell us nothing.
1:46:48
And meanwhile, this story is completely dropped.
1:46:51
Well, of course, because everyone is complicit.
1:46:54
The media is complicit.
1:46:55
The therapists are complicit.
1:46:57
The plastic surgeons are complicit.
1:46:59
And sadly, sadly, parents have been we have
1:47:03
a friend, a younger couple, which means in
1:47:08
their mid 40s.
1:47:10
And she was a therapist.
1:47:12
She's still a therapist.
1:47:13
She doesn't practice anymore.
1:47:14
She was a therapist in Louisiana.
1:47:16
And she would advertise Christian therapists, pretty much
1:47:21
everything, but not saying no LGBTQ.
1:47:26
And she said parents would bring their kids
1:47:29
and they'll be I just want my daughter,
1:47:31
my son to be happy.
1:47:33
They all kept reciting the same thing.
1:47:36
I'd rather have a daughter who's happy than
1:47:39
a dead son or a son who's happy
1:47:41
the other way around.
1:47:42
Well, no, but it was it goes both
1:47:45
ways.
1:47:45
Yeah, it goes both ways.
1:47:46
Right.
1:47:47
And that was the psychological operation.
1:47:51
And these parents, you know, now that we
1:47:53
have the first lawsuit, the $2 million loss,
1:47:55
it was New York, which, by the way,
1:47:57
there you go, by the way, three, zero,
1:48:00
three, three, three, nothing.
1:48:04
I feel so bad for myself.
1:48:06
God, me too.
1:48:09
So the this $2 million lawsuit, I think,
1:48:13
is super low.
1:48:15
Yes, I agree.
1:48:16
Because you have sterilization.
1:48:20
You can't most people don't.
1:48:22
Now it's turning out you can't you can
1:48:24
never in your entire life after you get
1:48:25
these treatments when you're like 12, 13, 14,
1:48:28
you can never have an orgasm.
1:48:31
No, no, all of that.
1:48:32
You can't have a natural life.
1:48:34
You can't you can't reproduce.
1:48:36
There's all these things.
1:48:36
And $2 million is nothing when people get
1:48:40
a clue when these lawyers finally, you know,
1:48:42
the good lawyers, the top guys get a
1:48:45
hold of this.
1:48:45
You're talking 20, 30, 40, 50 million.
1:48:50
And how about the news doctors who are
1:48:53
all telling us that, well, you know, you
1:48:55
can these blockers, they're just temporary.
1:48:56
When you stop them, then everything goes back
1:48:59
to normal.
1:48:59
No lie.
1:49:01
That's a lie.
1:49:01
These people should be held.
1:49:03
Lots of people should be held accountable.
1:49:04
But I feel the worst for the parents
1:49:07
who just wanted their kid to be happy.
1:49:09
You do a lot for your kid to
1:49:10
be happy.
1:49:11
And if you're told over and over, remember,
1:49:14
I got the the books.
1:49:16
My daughter wants to be a boy.
1:49:18
What do I do?
1:49:19
And I bought all those books that were
1:49:20
being, there's a bunch of them.
1:49:22
And the book was very little about the
1:49:25
kid, all about how do you deal with
1:49:26
the school?
1:49:27
How do you deal with with other parents?
1:49:29
How do you deal with your family?
1:49:31
Nothing about the kid.
1:49:33
I guess we just jack them up with
1:49:34
SSRIs.
1:49:35
Ah, it's so, so, so sad.
1:49:38
So sad.
1:49:39
Here's a I just got a short.
1:49:42
No, it's not even short.
1:49:43
A clip from NewsNation, because I went looking
1:49:46
on YouTube.
1:49:48
Hey, give me some reports about this in
1:49:49
America.
1:49:50
None, except your typical NewsNation report.
1:49:54
But there were some valid points in here.
1:49:55
There was a Canadian school shooting yesterday.
1:49:58
The school shooter killed nine and injured at
1:50:01
least 25 before killing themselves.
1:50:04
I say themselves because the shooter's gender is
1:50:09
the issue here.
1:50:10
The shooter is transgender, man to woman.
1:50:14
And Canada is so woke.
1:50:16
The Royal Canadian Mounted Police at one point
1:50:18
referred to him now her as the gun
1:50:22
person.
1:50:23
It's noteworthy that the police seem awfully concerned
1:50:26
with respecting the shooter's preferred pronouns.
1:50:30
We identified the suspect as they chose to
1:50:33
be identified in public and in social media.
1:50:35
I can say that Jesse was born as
1:50:37
a biological male who approximately the information that
1:50:41
I have approximately six years ago, began to
1:50:43
transition to female and identified as female, both
1:50:47
socially and publicly.
1:50:50
In Canada, it is illegal to misgender someone.
1:50:54
The police should be careful.
1:50:56
You know, and thinking about why it doesn't
1:50:58
get any play for the same, for the
1:51:00
exact same reason that they play up the
1:51:02
two seconds erroneous Obama 8 video versus the,
1:51:06
hey, wait a minute.
1:51:08
These voting machines and the vote counting machines
1:51:10
seem to be pretty bogus and all things
1:51:13
you told us aren't true.
1:51:15
I think the Democrat Party and they're, yeah,
1:51:19
forget they're just politicians, but the Schumers of
1:51:22
the world and the big donors and the
1:51:26
strategists and the think tanks, they are probably
1:51:29
on their knees thanking God that this didn't
1:51:32
happen in America.
1:51:33
Because that's all they need.
1:51:35
If that happened, we're all that get excellent
1:51:38
point.
1:51:38
President Trump can jump up and say, look
1:51:40
at what's happening.
1:51:41
Look at what the Democrats did to your
1:51:43
kids.
1:51:44
And I think he should do it.
1:51:45
I think that's exactly why this thing is.
1:51:48
This story has been suppressed in the U
1:51:49
.S. media.
1:51:50
Exactly.
1:51:51
Don't talk about it.
1:51:52
Don't give Trump any ideas.
1:51:54
Distract him with more.
1:51:56
Trump any ideas.
1:51:58
We're on a roll.
1:52:00
We're doing great so far.
1:52:02
Hey, with that, I want to thank you
1:52:03
for your courage in the morning to you,
1:52:04
the man who put the sea in the
1:52:05
17th century pirate's disease.
1:52:07
Say hello to my friend on the other
1:52:09
end.
1:52:09
The one, the only Mr. John C.
1:52:12
DeMora.
1:52:26
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group of volunteers who just try to make
1:52:57
podcasting better.
1:52:59
And if you happen to be around and
1:53:00
want to listen live, you can even listen
1:53:02
to the live stream and we'll get a
1:53:04
notification for that in the same app.
1:53:06
It's amazing.
1:53:08
Even Apple is taking our stuff now.
1:53:10
Chapters, transcripts.
1:53:11
We just hope that someone will take pod
1:53:13
ping because it's so annoying to get those
1:53:15
emails.
1:53:16
You haven't uploaded to Apple yet.
1:53:18
No, it's not exactly how it works.
1:53:20
It's not exactly how it works.
1:53:21
And thank you all for the lovely email
1:53:24
messages you sent about John Scott Adams interview,
1:53:28
which we aired on 1841.
1:53:32
And I'd listen to it again.
1:53:35
And I think it's one of the few
1:53:37
really long form Scott Adams interviews that are
1:53:40
around.
1:53:42
I don't think there's any.
1:53:43
I think that is the definitive interview.
1:53:45
Now, I look back on it.
1:53:46
Now, I got a lot of compliments, too,
1:53:48
I will say.
1:53:49
This was from, I did this interview eight
1:53:52
years ago and nobody paid attention.
1:53:55
You just listened to that Trump apologist, which
1:53:58
you brought up in the interview.
1:54:01
Scott Adams, Trump apologist.
1:54:03
Yeah, exactly.
1:54:05
So now I got a lot of attention,
1:54:07
you know, eight years later.
1:54:08
But thinking back on it, I didn't realize
1:54:12
it.
1:54:12
I didn't think about it.
1:54:14
Nobody ever interviewed Scott.
1:54:17
They brought him on shows.
1:54:18
I don't think he wanted to be interviewed.
1:54:20
It wasn't his thing.
1:54:22
I'm guessing that probably is true.
1:54:24
He was reclusive.
1:54:25
Yeah, you had a special relationship with him.
1:54:28
And of course, it was.
1:54:29
Yeah, well, I've known him forever.
1:54:30
It was pre-COVID and that's when he
1:54:33
really blew up for all kinds of different
1:54:35
reasons.
1:54:36
He was already huge, of course.
1:54:39
The one thing I'm sad about is I
1:54:40
wish we've been able to find out what
1:54:42
actually happened to his restaurants because he was
1:54:45
like, I can't talk about it because there's
1:54:47
all kinds of litigation and we settled and
1:54:49
then we agreed not to.
1:54:51
Oh, I know.
1:54:51
I know the story.
1:54:52
Can you talk about it?
1:54:53
Yeah, of course you can.
1:54:55
Basically, he was put into a position where
1:55:01
some of the co-investors had cornered him
1:55:09
into forcing him into putting more money in
1:55:13
or there was a situation that he was
1:55:15
not amenable to and he said, I'm not
1:55:17
going to do that.
1:55:18
And they said, you have to do it
1:55:20
or else we'll just, they bluffed him saying,
1:55:24
we're going to have to shutter the whole
1:55:26
thing if you don't do this because you
1:55:28
have to give us more money.
1:55:31
And he said, you know, no, shutter it.
1:55:37
No, I'm not going to do that.
1:55:38
And he just let it fold.
1:55:39
Yeah, good for him.
1:55:40
He walked on a deal where he was
1:55:42
being pressured.
1:55:43
Yeah, good for him.
1:55:45
So that was good.
1:55:46
And I thought it was good to do
1:55:47
that on Super Bowl Sunday.
1:55:48
We did talk about our predictions, which I
1:55:51
missed, of course, and you won.
1:55:53
Yeah, by a long shot.
1:55:54
But then again, you are the sports ball
1:55:56
guy.
1:55:59
Yeah, so thank you all for that.
1:56:01
It was just nice.
1:56:02
It was nice to see, I think also
1:56:04
my Twitter timeline, you know, people were thinking
1:56:07
of Scott and honoring him.
1:56:08
And I think it was good, particularly because
1:56:10
a lot of people just hadn't heard the
1:56:11
interview.
1:56:13
So that made it, it was a no
1:56:15
agenda bonus special just for you.
1:56:18
Yeah, it was, it worked out.
1:56:19
Yes.
1:56:21
So we run this as a value for
1:56:24
value podcast, which means we just ask you
1:56:28
to give us whatever value you get out
1:56:30
of the show.
1:56:32
And you can do that with time, talent
1:56:34
or treasure.
1:56:35
Now, the artwork, which is part of our
1:56:39
value for value operation here, where you people
1:56:43
upload art to noagendaartgenerator.com.
1:56:46
And Darren had actually came in late because
1:56:50
we produced this well before Sunday.
1:56:53
And he had a different piece of art.
1:56:55
But this was, I believe, there's a story
1:56:58
behind it.
1:56:58
But we, I think we got permission from
1:57:01
Scott to use Dilbert.
1:57:04
Yes, Dilbert art was approved.
1:57:06
But wasn't that a comic strip blogger, OG
1:57:08
piece of art?
1:57:09
It was, it was comic strip blogger.
1:57:12
It had different caption.
1:57:14
And yes.
1:57:16
And you use Photoshop, old school.
1:57:19
No, I did not.
1:57:20
I use that.
1:57:20
I use the, my Photoshop on the machine.
1:57:23
I had was working on.
1:57:24
You used the GIMP.
1:57:26
No, I didn't.
1:57:27
I use the recommended product that was in
1:57:29
the tip of the day.
1:57:30
If you look back far enough.
1:57:31
Now, what was that?
1:57:33
How would I have to go back it
1:57:34
up?
1:57:35
But it's an old tip, real early tip
1:57:37
of the day.
1:57:38
It was a photo editor and it did.
1:57:41
And I could, it had the tool I
1:57:43
was looking for, which was to be able
1:57:45
to erase a.
1:57:46
The problem with erasing a background, you know,
1:57:48
erasing some text in the foreground is if
1:57:50
the background is, is scaled where it's like
1:57:53
dark, you know, lighter.
1:57:54
And there's a word for this.
1:57:57
It's light at the top and dark at
1:57:58
the bottom.
1:57:59
If you just black out the, you know,
1:58:02
you can't, you have to find some way
1:58:03
of duplicating that.
1:58:05
And you, this tool does that.
1:58:07
So I could just eliminate the old text
1:58:09
and put the new text in.
1:58:11
Oh, wow.
1:58:11
Good.
1:58:11
Well, I gave, I gave you and CSB
1:58:14
credit for the art.
1:58:16
That sounds right.
1:58:18
I'm surprised you didn't try it with AI.
1:58:20
Hey, AI.
1:58:22
No, I can do it faster without AI.
1:58:25
Exactly the same.
1:58:26
Just add the words.
1:58:27
Farewell, my friend.
1:58:28
I bet you AI couldn't do it.
1:58:30
Well, I changed this.
1:58:32
I probably could, but it would be a
1:58:33
mess.
1:58:33
I changed the background and did some other
1:58:35
stuff.
1:58:35
You would have, you would have my friend
1:58:37
spelled wrong.
1:58:38
I mean, there's always something.
1:58:41
We always thank everyone who supports the show
1:58:43
financially, $50 and above.
1:58:45
And in this segment, we thank her.
1:58:47
But we give out credits for each episode,
1:58:50
just like Hollywood.
1:58:51
In fact, they are recognized by Hollywood at
1:58:53
imdb.com.
1:58:55
Executive producer and associate executive producer credits.
1:58:58
Here's how it works.
1:58:59
$200 or above.
1:59:00
You get a title and a credit of
1:59:02
associate executive producer.
1:59:03
It's forever for the rest of your life.
1:59:06
If anyone ever questions it, we'll be happy
1:59:07
to vouch for you.
1:59:08
Have we ever had anyone ask for a
1:59:10
vouch?
1:59:10
Maybe once, I think.
1:59:13
People don't take this seriously enough.
1:59:16
Well, if they ever do, we will vouch.
1:59:18
We'll vouch.
1:59:20
So you get that credit and we will
1:59:21
read your note.
1:59:23
$300 and above.
1:59:24
Executive producer credit.
1:59:25
You can be the envy of your friends
1:59:28
and we'll also read your note.
1:59:29
However, as I look at our list, and
1:59:31
this is donations, value for value from 1841
1:59:38
and 1842.
1:59:41
The first one right off the bat has
1:59:43
no note at all.
1:59:45
Yeah, I know.
1:59:46
It's the best.
1:59:48
It's Eric Olson from Plano.
1:59:49
We'll get a note from him, I'm sure.
1:59:51
Yes, $1,000.
1:59:53
Unless he's a spook and this is our
1:59:54
spook money for the month.
1:59:55
I don't think Eric Olson has been knighted.
1:59:59
So do we actually, do we have him
2:00:00
on the, is he on the list?
2:00:02
Let me check.
2:00:02
Let me just see.
2:00:03
We do have a knight and a dame
2:00:05
today.
2:00:06
Let me check.
2:00:06
Do we have?
2:00:08
Nope.
2:00:08
Nope.
2:00:09
So he is, if he...
2:00:11
We'll always gratuitously put him on the list.
2:00:13
No, no, we'll wait because he'll have a
2:00:15
knight name and he'll have stuff on the
2:00:16
round table.
2:00:17
He'll come in.
2:00:18
So $1,000.
2:00:19
Thank you so much, Eric.
2:00:21
No note.
2:00:21
That means you get a double of karma.
2:00:23
You've got...
2:00:26
Karma.
2:00:33
What?
2:00:34
You're just laughing like a maniac.
2:00:36
No, I'm looking, I'm sorry.
2:00:37
We didn't go over the art.
2:00:40
There was nothing else to go over.
2:00:42
No, I know.
2:00:43
But I was looking at the page and
2:00:45
there was a piece, there's a piece coming
2:00:46
up that you're going to crack.
2:00:48
Okay.
2:00:49
I'm sorry.
2:00:50
I was laughing at this piece.
2:00:53
It's hilarious.
2:00:53
You're off format, man.
2:00:55
We're not doing art.
2:00:56
Jim Bobway's up next.
2:00:57
He's in Cary, North Carolina.
2:00:59
And he came with 500 bucks.
2:01:01
Want to thank him for that.
2:01:01
And he says, sincere apologies for the hiatus.
2:01:04
I've been a lot going on.
2:01:07
Have a great deal to catch up on
2:01:09
with no agenda.
2:01:10
Please send all my love to my wife
2:01:12
and my best friend, Duchess Marianne Schneeberger.
2:01:17
Happy Valentine's Day, darling.
2:01:18
It's a Valentine's Day donation.
2:01:20
The highest order, 500 bucks.
2:01:22
Good for you.
2:01:23
It's a Valentine's Day show today.
2:01:24
And Sunday, by the way.
2:01:27
And Valentine's Day is on Saturday, not Friday,
2:01:29
like I said, in the newsletter.
2:01:30
Oh, no.
2:01:31
Yes.
2:01:31
Wrong.
2:01:31
I missed that.
2:01:32
Sorry.
2:01:33
Yes.
2:01:34
Missed it.
2:01:35
Do a copy edit.
2:01:36
I suck.
2:01:39
Without you, he continues, my life would be,
2:01:43
would really be a massacre.
2:01:46
I don't know what that means, but okay.
2:01:48
Wishing you, and now he's switching gears and
2:01:51
he's wishing me and Adam the very best.
2:01:53
I, A-Y-E, Zimbabwe, pro, proletarian of
2:01:58
the liberated socialist people's Republic of Woke County,
2:02:02
North Carolina.
2:02:03
Boom.
2:02:03
There you go.
2:02:05
There you go.
2:02:06
Yes.
2:02:07
Valentine's.
2:02:08
Are you celebrating Valentine's Day sometime in April?
2:02:13
Or do you actually stick to February 14th?
2:02:17
It's nothing to celebrate.
2:02:18
It's just, when you're, yes.
2:02:20
I was in the 10th grade and I
2:02:22
was giving cards to the various girls in
2:02:24
the class.
2:02:24
Let me just give you a tip.
2:02:26
Here's a tip.
2:02:27
All women, I don't care who they are,
2:02:29
all women like at least a card or
2:02:32
a phone call.
2:02:33
And I implore them.
2:02:34
I always do the phone call.
2:02:36
Hey, happy Valentine's Day.
2:02:38
Hey, did you watch Max Velocity?
2:02:41
Okay.
2:02:43
Dame Catherine, she is our crypto granny of
2:02:46
Bangkok, comes in with the Bitcoin, $500 worth.
2:02:51
Which will be a thousand dollars next year.
2:02:54
This is to thank John for the absolutely
2:02:56
fantastic interview with Scott Adams.
2:02:59
May his soul fly free.
2:03:01
Dame Catherine, crypto granny of Bangkok.
2:03:04
Yeah.
2:03:05
Beautiful.
2:03:05
It's beautiful.
2:03:07
Sergi and Brad Brackley, Northamptonshire, UK.
2:03:14
333.33. Treasure for your time and talent,
2:03:17
Sergi.
2:03:18
There you go.
2:03:19
Is in clarified butter.
2:03:22
Alec Hartman, Spring, Texas.
2:03:24
Ah, the Texans are out.
2:03:25
I love the Texans.
2:03:26
$333.33. ITM fellas, long-time douchebag, first
2:03:31
-time donor.
2:03:33
Well, I guess he wants a de-douching,
2:03:36
yes.
2:03:38
You've been de-douched.
2:03:40
John, keep the TikTok clips coming.
2:03:42
Thank you both for your courage.
2:03:44
And here's his Valentine's Day ad.
2:03:46
All right.
2:03:48
Single, unmarried, and childless ladies in the woodlands
2:03:51
in greater Houston, Texas area.
2:03:53
I am a single, unmarried, and childless 32
2:03:56
-year-old man seeking a like-minded woman
2:03:58
with Christian values.
2:04:02
You got to have the three sixes, man.
2:04:04
Six pack, six figures, six feet tall.
2:04:06
I live an intentionally slow-paced life.
2:04:09
I enjoy working hard in my career and
2:04:10
at the gym.
2:04:11
Oh, there you go.
2:04:12
I thrive when I'm able to rest, spend
2:04:15
my time with family, and indulge in unstructured
2:04:17
leisure time.
2:04:19
I'm thinking skiing.
2:04:20
I'm looking for a long-term partner to
2:04:22
share in my joie de vivre with the
2:04:25
hope of getting hitched and making a family
2:04:27
of our own down the road.
2:04:28
If you're interested in grabbing a drink, going
2:04:30
out for a fun brunch date, or wandering
2:04:32
around a museum together, you can find me
2:04:34
at noagendasoulmates at gmail.com.
2:04:38
Once again, that's noagendasoulmates at gmail.com.
2:04:42
No jingles, just karma and a de-douching,
2:04:45
please, which I gave you.
2:04:47
Happy Valentine's Day.
2:04:49
Peace be with you all.
2:04:51
We got the karma for you.
2:04:53
Where's he located?
2:04:54
You've got karma.
2:04:55
In Spring, Texas, which is...
2:04:58
So the woodlands is...
2:05:00
Oh, Texas is loaded with gals.
2:05:01
The woodlands is a classy area.
2:05:04
People with money live in the woodlands.
2:05:06
So I'm just saying, ladies, just saying.
2:05:11
Okay.
2:05:12
So Hare Hill in White Salmon, Washington.
2:05:20
333.33. Jobs Karma really works?
2:05:24
Uh-huh.
2:05:25
Starting the new job in a couple of
2:05:27
weeks and sharing some of the spoils.
2:05:31
And a round of Jobs Karma he wants
2:05:33
and Cancer Karma to share with anyone who
2:05:36
needs them.
2:05:36
Yes, F Cancer Karma, obviously.
2:05:39
Jobs.
2:05:39
What did I say?
2:05:40
Jobs.
2:05:40
He said Cancer Karma.
2:05:41
Jobs and jobs.
2:05:42
Let's vote for jobs.
2:05:49
You've got karma.
2:05:52
And before you read the next note, I
2:05:53
will mention that it got kicked back by
2:05:55
the bank.
2:05:57
Oh, this donation from Bob?
2:05:58
Yeah, because the bank, all of a sudden,
2:06:00
because of their new service agreements with whoever
2:06:03
they're doing this with, won't take Canadian checks.
2:06:06
Well, that's an outrage.
2:06:08
That's what I say.
2:06:09
I'm going to get a hold of the
2:06:10
CEO of the bank and complain about this.
2:06:12
Weren't they bought by some big Dutch bank?
2:06:15
No, no, no.
2:06:15
They've been buying banks.
2:06:17
Oh, well, yes.
2:06:18
And I want you to record this and
2:06:20
we'll air this interview.
2:06:21
It's an outrage.
2:06:23
We promote checks.
2:06:25
We do promote checks.
2:06:26
I mean, I don't want to tell Bob
2:06:28
he has to send his, you know, go
2:06:30
back to Stripe or PayPal.
2:06:32
Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin.
2:06:34
Well, he could do that too.
2:06:36
Bob Stanhope sends us $333.33. He says,
2:06:41
greetings from Grand Forks, British Columbia, Canada, land
2:06:44
of the free, dot, dot, dot.
2:06:47
Keeping it old school with a note and
2:06:49
a check while we still can.
2:06:50
Well, there you go.
2:06:52
Yeah, 333 is actually less than 250.
2:06:55
Oh, yeah, it's like 50 bucks, but it
2:06:56
doesn't matter.
2:06:57
Yeah, no.
2:07:00
It's been over a year since my last
2:07:02
donation.
2:07:02
Please accept this humble token of appreciation, the
2:07:04
amount of $333.33 for a job well
2:07:07
done.
2:07:07
We love the show.
2:07:09
Best podcast in the universe, without a doubt.
2:07:12
No jingles, good karma for all.
2:07:14
Adam, keep the faith, literally and figuratively.
2:07:17
John, keep it crusty and real.
2:07:19
We love it.
2:07:20
Stay dangerous, men.
2:07:21
We appreciate the effort.
2:07:23
Bob Stanhope, a bike riding guy in the
2:07:26
boundary.
2:07:28
You've got karma.
2:07:32
Now we come to Harry Klan in Aledo,
2:07:36
Aledo, Texas, who also writes in a note,
2:07:40
handwritten note.
2:07:41
Adam and John, $300.
2:07:43
He says, hello, I decided to kick off
2:07:45
2026 as both an executive producer and a
2:07:49
knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
2:07:51
I think he's on the list.
2:07:52
He is.
2:07:53
This donation puts me over the top for
2:07:56
knighthood accounting attached.
2:07:57
I stopped watching TV news and reading physical
2:08:00
newspapers more than 30 years ago.
2:08:03
Since 2009, the No Agenda podcast has been
2:08:06
my source for news and more importantly, media
2:08:09
deconstruction.
2:08:10
Can I just say something here?
2:08:12
More and more people email me and say,
2:08:17
you know, I stopped following news.
2:08:20
I don't watch stuff on Instagram or X
2:08:25
or I just stopped it.
2:08:26
I find that the No Agenda show will
2:08:29
give me the stuff that's at the top,
2:08:32
the top of, you know, the cream of
2:08:33
the crop.
2:08:34
And we, you know, we dig down under
2:08:36
to bring up the nasty stuff, to show
2:08:38
you what it's really all about.
2:08:40
And they feel informed and happy, happy with
2:08:43
their lives, I tell you.
2:08:45
And I think that's a very good way
2:08:47
to live.
2:08:47
You're not distracted by the propagandists.
2:08:48
Yes.
2:08:48
Which we, we're not working for anybody to
2:08:51
do that stuff.
2:08:52
And they whistle and laugh a lot because
2:08:54
they hear racist videos.
2:08:58
Then they go, OK, I know better than
2:09:02
you.
2:09:02
I know what's really going on.
2:09:04
Midterms.
2:09:04
He continues.
2:09:06
The two of you are national treasures and
2:09:10
I'm honored to be a citizen of Gitmo
2:09:12
Nation and producer of the best podcast in
2:09:14
the universe.
2:09:15
For more years, sincerely, Henry, Harry Klan.
2:09:18
He's also Sir Sauerkraut of the North Texas
2:09:22
Anita's.
2:09:23
What does that mean?
2:09:25
What's an Anita?
2:09:26
What's a Texas Anita?
2:09:28
Eh, it's probably some snack.
2:09:29
I don't know.
2:09:31
By the way, the word editor calculated my
2:09:34
note to be just 115 words, John.
2:09:37
Smiley face.
2:09:38
Beautiful.
2:09:39
Sean Holman, Nome, Indiana.
2:09:41
Not new to the donation list.
2:09:44
$219 and 11.
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Glock mags, the double stacked Glock mags.
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I actually shot my platypus from Stealth Arms
2:10:08
the other day and it jammed.
2:10:11
I'd never shot it.
2:10:13
Yeah, jammed right out of the gate.
2:10:15
Yeah, it was.
2:10:16
Yeah, it shot really well, but it jammed
2:10:19
right out of the gate.
2:10:20
But that is not to say.
2:10:21
So you cleared the jam and it shot
2:10:23
fine after that?
2:10:24
Of course, of course.
2:10:24
It could have been the ammo, but I
2:10:26
mean, I presumed it was oiled enough.
2:10:29
It was new in the box.
2:10:30
I didn't figure I'd have to do anything
2:10:31
with it.
2:10:32
Maybe that was my mistake.
2:10:34
I don't know.
2:10:36
What would the bow shield T9 would do?
2:10:40
Good question.
2:10:42
All right, where are we?
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We're at Sir Johnny B in Brockport, New
2:10:46
York, 21426.
2:10:48
My beautiful wife, Dame Polly of 24 years,
2:10:51
21426.
2:10:54
And we have two of them today.
2:10:57
Yes, that's the Valentine's Day donation.
2:10:59
Yes, official Valentine's Day donation.
2:11:02
My beautiful wife, Dame Polly of 24 years.
2:11:05
Looking forward to the rest of them.
2:11:08
The rest of them.
2:11:09
The years, I guess.
2:11:11
The love, Sir Johnny B.
2:11:12
OK, yes, wonderful.
2:11:15
Sir Dr. Sharkey, St. Peter's, Missouri, 21426.
2:11:18
There's our second of only two Valentine's Day
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donations.
2:11:22
I dedicate this to my two grand human
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resources.
2:11:25
Love, Pawpaw, Sir Dr. Sharkey, Duke and Secretary
2:11:28
General of FEMA Region 4 and 7.
2:11:34
And there we go on to Junonymous in
2:11:38
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 21060.
2:11:41
Junonymous.
2:11:43
Emailed Adam again regarding Tel Aviv.
2:11:46
Anonymous Jew, anonymous donation.
2:11:50
I got something.
2:11:52
I got his email.
2:11:53
You know, so I said we're doing it.
2:11:55
We're going to go to Israel the end
2:11:57
of the month, beginning of March.
2:11:58
And I will be doing some shows from
2:11:59
Israel.
2:12:00
Going to go pick up some Jew money,
2:12:02
get the Mossad money, get the shekels.
2:12:05
We need the Mossad money.
2:12:06
Where are those guys?
2:12:07
And he sent me a long list of
2:12:10
stuff to do in Tel Aviv, which I
2:12:13
appreciate that.
2:12:13
Thank you.
2:12:15
And he says, anonymous, anonymous, anonymous donation.
2:12:21
Bring out my brethren, the shape-shifting Jews
2:12:24
from my knighthood.
2:12:25
In other words, he wants that clip.
2:12:26
Knight name circumcision.
2:12:29
And you get a circumcision and you get
2:12:32
a circumcision and you.
2:12:36
Oh, I get it.
2:12:36
He's doing Oprah.
2:12:38
You get a circumcision and you get a
2:12:41
circumcision.
2:12:42
All right.
2:12:42
We get it.
2:12:43
Now we go to the shape
2:12:55
-shifting Jews.
2:12:58
Gotta love the trolls.
2:13:00
All the gay bars in Tel Aviv are
2:13:02
on alert.
2:13:02
Adam's coming.
2:13:03
All right.
2:13:03
Very funny.
2:13:04
Very funny.
2:13:05
Funny trolls.
2:13:07
Robert Ludwig in Nevada, Iowa, Nevada, Iowa, 207
2:13:11
and 20 cents.
2:13:12
And he has no notes.
2:13:13
So he receives a double up karma.
2:13:15
You've got karma.
2:13:21
Ah, here we go.
2:13:22
Bensonville, Illinois.
2:13:23
We got Eli, the coffee guy.
2:13:26
202, 08.
2:13:28
I had an impromptu meet up on Saturday
2:13:30
with Darren.
2:13:31
Oh, wow.
2:13:33
The host of the rock and roll pre
2:13:35
-show and planned it raised up by one
2:13:38
of our brewery marketing events or market events.
2:13:40
He was trolling for free coffee.
2:13:43
Of course he was.
2:13:44
Thank you, Adam and John, for connecting all
2:13:47
of us.
2:13:47
Producers.
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I met some of the very fine, some
2:13:49
very fine people over the years, both online
2:13:51
and in person.
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Thanks to no agenda.
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I've also been blessed to share our coffee
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with people all over.
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2:14:03
Eli, the coffee guy should mention.
2:14:04
He also sent me a separate note because
2:14:06
he's sending me some more coffee demanding that
2:14:09
I stop playing as opposed to the other
2:14:10
producer.
2:14:11
He Eli's demanded.
2:14:13
I stop playing the tick tock clips.
2:14:15
Oh, and so I'm agreeing to not play
2:14:17
a tick tock clip for one show for
2:14:21
every bag of coffee.
2:14:24
Wow, that's a good day.
2:14:26
So so the next three shows I'm getting
2:14:28
no pilot on.
2:14:30
All right.
2:14:31
Well, there you go.
2:14:32
Mike Duffy, Blenheim in New Zealand.
2:14:35
Two hundred dollars and 51 cents of these.
2:14:39
Oh, so that is.
2:14:39
Oh, he he's it's a three hundred and
2:14:41
thirty three.
2:14:42
Thirty three New Zealand dollar reduce.
2:14:46
So we will give it.
2:14:47
We will put him up in the.
2:14:48
Wow.
2:14:49
Yeah, we will put him up in the.
2:14:50
That's quite the exchange rate, isn't it?
2:14:53
Two hundred dollars and one cents.
2:14:55
Love the show.
2:14:56
Business karma, please.
2:14:57
Flores hot dogs.
2:14:59
Blenheim, New Zealand, the best hot dogs in
2:15:01
the universe.
2:15:02
Well, can he send those?
2:15:03
I'd love to try some.
2:15:04
Can we can you can you get him
2:15:05
across country?
2:15:07
Sending me sending me customs is very difficult.
2:15:11
Well, anyway, Flores hot dogs.
2:15:14
Blenheim, New Zealand.
2:15:15
Here's your business karma.
2:15:17
You've got karma.
2:15:22
Sir Gooch in Boonesboro, Maryland.
2:15:26
Two hundred as a birthday switcheroo for monkey
2:15:29
boy in Indianapolis.
2:15:30
We can no longer be friends in good
2:15:32
conscience without getting him a D douching.
2:15:35
Yes, you've been D douched.
2:15:39
Signed Sir Gooch in Maryland.
2:15:43
Oh, was that it?
2:15:44
Oh, was that it?
2:15:45
I'm sorry.
2:15:46
That's it.
2:15:46
Oh, there is.
2:15:47
OK, hold on a second.
2:15:48
I was getting something ready here because we
2:15:50
have a switcheroo.
2:15:53
And is this from the Indy no agenda
2:15:58
raffle in Greenwood?
2:16:00
But it's a switcheroo for Annette Miller.
2:16:02
Now, Annette also does the the meetup reports.
2:16:05
We have one from them from the most
2:16:07
recent one.
2:16:07
She says, ITM, John, I don't think you
2:16:09
both are being a constant source of insight
2:16:11
and sanity in this crazy world.
2:16:14
Shout out to Sir Ryan, who let me
2:16:16
down the no agenda rabbit hole and to
2:16:18
the Indy meetup crew for always being great
2:16:21
company there.
2:16:22
Can I please get a fear is freedom,
2:16:24
followed by a boogity, boogity, boogity?
2:16:27
Yes, I have a boogity boogity for you.
2:16:30
Amen.
2:16:31
Yes.
2:16:31
Thank you very much, says Annette Miller.
2:16:32
Annette, thank you for always sending the fantastic
2:16:36
meetup reports from Indy.
2:16:39
Fear is freedom.
2:16:41
Subjugation is liberation.
2:16:44
Contradiction is truth.
2:16:46
Those are the facts of this world.
2:16:48
And you will all surrender to them.
2:16:51
You pigs in human clothing.
2:16:58
Boom.
2:17:01
There we go.
2:17:03
Lou Patkins up.
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She's in Castle Rock, Colorado.
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Oh, she does mention it at the end.
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Let's vote for jobs.
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Karma.
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All righty.
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That wraps up our executive and associate executive
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producers for episode 1842 of the best podcast
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Our formula is this.
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We go out, we hit people in the
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mouth.
2:19:04
I fixed it, fixed all those problems we
2:19:06
were having with the, we are on the
2:19:08
people's operating system, John.
2:19:10
I'm so happy.
2:19:11
I'm so proud.
2:19:12
But what did you fix?
2:19:13
It was fine last time.
2:19:14
No, remember the new world order wouldn't play
2:19:16
and they're all.
2:19:16
Oh, that's right.
2:19:17
Yeah.
2:19:18
The cart wall was broke, man, but we
2:19:20
fixed it.
2:19:20
I fixed it.
2:19:21
I figured it out.
2:19:22
You know, it was a very simple fix.
2:19:24
And then the AI like recreated the whole
2:19:29
thing.
2:19:29
And then it broke a whole bunch of
2:19:30
other things.
2:19:31
I said, you broke this.
2:19:32
Okay, fix.
2:19:33
You broke that fix.
2:19:34
Okay.
2:19:34
And then it made the sliders a whole
2:19:37
different color for no reason.
2:19:39
Out of the blue.
2:19:41
And they look cute because it has a
2:19:42
little metallic finish to it.
2:19:44
Like, oh, that's cool.
2:19:44
But I didn't ask for it.
2:19:46
These are the things that are annoying.
2:19:48
Just a little bit annoying.
2:19:50
There you go.
2:19:51
Hey, there was a rather big news.
2:19:55
And in the climate change arena, as President
2:19:59
Trump, I think it's happening today, will be
2:20:01
revoking the Environmental Protection Agency's authority to regulate
2:20:07
carbon emissions by taking it off the list
2:20:09
of things that are dangerous to your health.
2:20:12
CO2 in particular.
2:20:13
They say carbon emissions, but it's CO2, which
2:20:17
is a life-giving force.
2:20:19
But was that during Obama?
2:20:21
When did it?
2:20:21
Well, maybe it's in this report.
2:20:22
Here's CBS.
2:20:25
The Trump administration is preparing what environmental experts
2:20:27
are calling one of the most sweeping regulatory
2:20:29
rollbacks in modern history.
2:20:31
The president plans to revoke the EPA's legal
2:20:34
authority to regulate carbon emissions on Thursday.
2:20:37
That's the tricky bit.
2:20:39
They say carbon emissions.
2:20:41
No, it's not carbon emissions.
2:20:43
It is specifically carbon dioxide.
2:20:46
You see what they're doing there?
2:20:48
They've been doing this for the length of
2:20:51
the entire era of our show.
2:20:53
Correct.
2:20:54
EPA's legal authority to regulate carbon emissions on
2:20:57
Thursday.
2:20:58
If it's withdrawn, it could upend decades of
2:21:01
U.S. climate policy.
2:21:02
CBS News national environmental correspondent David Schuchter joins
2:21:05
us now.
2:21:05
David, we're talking about something called endangerment finding.
2:21:08
Why does that matter?
2:21:09
It's a kind of a bulky term, but
2:21:11
it actually has incredible significance when it comes
2:21:14
to environmental regulation.
2:21:15
It basically says that it finds that the
2:21:19
emissions from our tailpipes and stuff that create
2:21:22
carbon dioxide, that that is a pollutant and
2:21:25
that pollutant can be regulated by the United
2:21:27
States government.
2:21:28
So it is the underpinning of all the
2:21:31
federal policy as it relates to trying to
2:21:34
get a handle on climate change.
2:21:37
And by revoking that or essentially not enforcing
2:21:42
that rule anymore, that would mean that things
2:21:44
like our tailpipe emissions that come out of
2:21:47
our vehicles that the government is is very
2:21:50
involved in regulating.
2:21:51
All of a sudden, they wouldn't regulate that
2:21:53
anymore.
2:21:53
That is up to 20 percent of our
2:21:56
carbon emissions in this country comes from that
2:21:58
source, which the Trump administration says we're no
2:22:01
longer going to regulate.
2:22:02
Notice they just take you straight to the
2:22:05
dirty, dirty tailpipes, not to the cow farts,
2:22:08
the cow burps.
2:22:10
Well, actually, the beginning when he said I
2:22:11
tried to interrupt it.
2:22:12
I know he didn't.
2:22:13
I'm sorry, I didn't hear you.
2:22:14
He said the tailpipe emissions, which form carbon
2:22:19
dioxide.
2:22:21
What he said, he said, which form carbon
2:22:23
dioxide very early in the clip.
2:22:26
I'm sorry I missed that.
2:22:28
Well, that's it's bogus, but that's CBS.
2:22:31
Barry Weiss, everybody.
2:22:32
Why is he doing this?
2:22:33
Why is he doing this?
2:22:35
What could it possibly be?
2:22:36
Because it's a hoax.
2:22:39
Yes.
2:22:41
You know, there's been a bunch of I
2:22:42
don't have any of the clips.
2:22:44
I suppose I could.
2:22:45
I'm going to get some now.
2:22:46
I'm going to start collecting them.
2:22:48
There's more and more and more clips coming
2:22:50
on Twitter and TikTok and elsewhere about CBS
2:22:54
is skewed reporting.
2:22:56
It's getting worse, not better under Barry Weiss.
2:23:00
Yeah, I mean, this doesn't seem like it.
2:23:02
This is certainly not pro Trump.
2:23:07
And we were here when the IPCC first
2:23:12
came out.
2:23:12
We were here with the whole scandal.
2:23:15
Remember the climate change papers?
2:23:17
What was that called?
2:23:18
Climate gate.
2:23:19
Climate gate.
2:23:19
We have a jingle.
2:23:20
Oh, man, we got the climate.
2:23:22
To the gate, to the gate, to the
2:23:23
climate gate.
2:23:24
Yeah, hold on a second.
2:23:27
For some reason, my keyboard is doubling keys,
2:23:30
which is not good.
2:23:31
Here we go.
2:23:34
To the gate, to the gate, to the
2:23:35
climate gate.
2:23:41
Yeah, we and was the the climate gate,
2:23:44
the papers.
2:23:45
It was all they were.
2:23:46
They were telling each other, just use this
2:23:49
hockey stick.
2:23:49
I am paraphrasing.
2:23:50
Yeah, they were both.
2:23:52
They were faking phoning up numbers.
2:23:54
Well, it doesn't work.
2:23:55
So let's use these numbers.
2:23:56
Instead, they were making stuff up as they
2:23:58
go along.
2:23:58
It was a huge setback for the old
2:24:02
the entire scam.
2:24:04
And it finally kind of blew over after
2:24:06
a decade.
2:24:07
Well, because they just kept saying it's not
2:24:09
true.
2:24:09
You know, it's talking about Andrew.
2:24:11
Andrew, his name was this guy, Andrew climate
2:24:13
gate.
2:24:14
And I can't remember his last name.
2:24:15
And then it was the consensus model.
2:24:19
Ninety seven percent of scientists agree.
2:24:23
And it was it was one survey.
2:24:26
It was 97 percent of climate scientists.
2:24:29
It wasn't all scientists, but it was 90
2:24:31
percent of climate scientists who believed in climate
2:24:34
change, climate change, global warming at the time,
2:24:38
global warming, global warming.
2:24:39
And then we had to switch the climate
2:24:41
change because and in the beginning was a
2:24:44
weather is not climate where there's not climate
2:24:48
because it's really chilly for this global warming
2:24:51
weather climate.
2:24:52
And then we got climate change out, extreme
2:24:54
weather events in our lifetime, in the lifetime
2:24:57
of this show.
2:24:58
This hoax.
2:24:59
Why is he doing this?
2:25:00
I think that you hear in the Trump
2:25:03
administration of obviously a very strong need to
2:25:06
a strong desire to deregulate that regulations are
2:25:09
onerous on businesses, cost them a lot of
2:25:12
money and therefore cost consumers a lot of
2:25:14
money.
2:25:15
We did hear today from Carolyn Lovett, his
2:25:17
press secretary, that he's going to announce this
2:25:20
on Thursday.
2:25:21
And it sounds like it's also being framed
2:25:23
in the affordability sort of argument that we're
2:25:25
hearing from the White House that by doing
2:25:28
this, they're saying they will save consumers a
2:25:30
lot of money on the cost of a
2:25:31
new car and other things that is deeply
2:25:33
contested.
2:25:34
That in fact, the more we release carbon
2:25:36
dioxide, the more costs we incur from fires
2:25:39
and fires and drought weather.
2:25:43
The more carbon dioxide we release, we release
2:25:47
carbon dioxide.
2:25:48
The more costs we incur from fires and
2:25:51
fires and droughts and floods and things like
2:25:54
that.
2:25:55
Fires and droughts and floods are caused by
2:25:57
carbon dioxide and lions and tigers and floods
2:26:00
and droughts, floods and droughts.
2:26:03
Oh, but what are the scientists say about
2:26:06
this?
2:26:06
What are environmental advocates saying about this expected
2:26:09
rollback?
2:26:10
I heard today from the Union of Concerned
2:26:12
Scientists.
2:26:12
They said the Union of Concerned Scientists.
2:26:15
You know what?
2:26:17
They're concerned.
2:26:18
I want to know how I can join.
2:26:21
Union of Concerned Scientists.
2:26:23
They said that this is a chainsaw taken
2:26:26
to science based policy saying that it's done
2:26:28
at the behest of the polluters, the oil
2:26:30
companies.
2:26:32
The polluters, advocates, these nonprofits that are in
2:26:35
the environmental space are just lining up to
2:26:38
sue the Trump administration when this announcement is
2:26:41
made.
2:26:42
So you can expect that that lawsuit could
2:26:45
go on for a long time.
2:26:46
But the question is, will the administration just
2:26:50
start to not enforce these rules right away,
2:26:53
regardless of what the lawsuits say?
2:26:56
Yes, it's already happening and it will lower
2:26:59
energy prices.
2:27:00
Of course, it's not going to be for
2:27:02
the data centers, but.
2:27:04
Or it won't lower energy prices out here
2:27:06
in California.
2:27:07
Well, no, it's California.
2:27:09
It's all about the coal.
2:27:10
This crowd of coal miners made an enthusiastic
2:27:13
audience for Donald Trump as he announced his
2:27:16
pro fossil fuel agenda.
2:27:18
On Wednesday, the president said that the U
2:27:21
.S. Army will in future give priority to
2:27:24
electricity derived from coal.
2:27:26
Clean, beautiful coal.
2:27:28
Clean, beautiful coal.
2:27:30
We're going to be buying a lot of
2:27:31
coal through the military now, and it's going
2:27:34
to be less expensive and actually much more
2:27:37
effective than what we have been using for
2:27:39
many, many years.
2:27:41
Since the start of his second term, Trump
2:27:43
has done everything in his power to relaunch
2:27:45
the coal industry, providing financial support to plants
2:27:49
which may otherwise have closed.
2:27:51
And in April, rolling back some regulations.
2:27:54
We're going to be crushing Biden era environmental
2:27:57
restrictions.
2:27:59
These are restrictions that made it impossible, impossible
2:28:03
to do anything having to do, frankly, with
2:28:06
energy, even beyond coal.
2:28:08
Trump says coal should be used to power
2:28:10
the energy hungry data centers used by artificial
2:28:13
intelligence models.
2:28:15
His agenda is a reversal of previous trends
2:28:17
in the U.S. In 2023, coal made
2:28:20
up 16 percent of total energy production, down
2:28:23
from 50 percent in the year 2000.
2:28:26
The polluting fossil fuel has been gradually replaced
2:28:29
by renewable energy forms, which, according to scientific
2:28:33
consensus, are better for the environment and can
2:28:36
be less expensive to produce.
2:28:38
Who is this reporter?
2:28:39
Yes, France 24.
2:28:41
I'm bored with it.
2:28:41
You know how it ends.
2:28:43
I just want to play two short clips
2:28:45
because we always like to follow the words
2:28:48
like carbon emissions when it's really about carbon
2:28:51
dioxide.
2:28:53
And this is regarding plants need to survive.
2:28:56
It's life force itself.
2:29:01
This is a narrative that you will notice
2:29:04
changing once you hear it.
2:29:06
You can't unhear it.
2:29:07
This quick clip, 15 seconds came from CNN.
2:29:11
I believe this lady was a protester against
2:29:14
ICE, and she caught herself because she has
2:29:17
been given new directive, new words to use,
2:29:21
which have been adopted by the mainstream media,
2:29:24
the M5M.
2:29:25
There was probably four people that were at
2:29:27
one point in time following.
2:29:30
I shouldn't say following.
2:29:31
I should say commuting.
2:29:34
Sounds much better than following.
2:29:35
We were commuting.
2:29:37
You guys try to stay away from that
2:29:38
language these days?
2:29:39
Yes.
2:29:40
So you don't want to say you're following
2:29:42
ICE.
2:29:42
You're just commuting.
2:29:44
You see, you're commuting.
2:29:45
Here's NPR.
2:29:46
I think they had a take on it.
2:29:48
It was the one month anniversary of the
2:29:49
death of Renee Good, who was shot while
2:29:51
slowly driving away from immigration officers.
2:29:54
OK, there you go.
2:29:55
There's your mainstream media.
2:29:57
There it is.
2:29:58
Slowly driving away, commuting.
2:30:02
It's all so bad.
2:30:03
I love these guys.
2:30:05
It's all so bad.
2:30:06
You may have a clip.
2:30:07
There was just one.
2:30:09
I'll save it for Sunday.
2:30:12
I got a great Gen Z email, but
2:30:15
I'll save it.
2:30:17
Because some Gen Zers think that when we
2:30:20
laugh about Florida ounces and stuff, that we
2:30:23
think they're morons.
2:30:24
No, some are, like all categories of people.
2:30:29
There's some very specific ones.
2:30:31
But when I hear about Gen Zs who
2:30:34
are, first of all, listening to the show
2:30:37
since 2019, love the concept of a sock
2:30:41
hop and have a vocation, you know, we
2:30:45
have a lot of hope in Gen Z.
2:30:47
We are here to, in fact, help educate
2:30:49
you on the things you don't know about
2:30:51
and to set you up for success.
2:30:53
To help educate them on the things that
2:30:55
they are kept away from.
2:30:57
Yes, yes, yes.
2:30:59
Obfuscated from them.
2:31:00
Exactly.
2:31:01
Exactly.
2:31:03
Yeah.
2:31:03
All right.
2:31:05
They've got to, they've come to the right
2:31:06
place.
2:31:07
And we're not mocking, we are mocking the
2:31:10
ones that don't, that are, you know, there
2:31:11
are, they know who, they're included.
2:31:14
They know the dummies out there.
2:31:16
You know who you are.
2:31:16
They're friends.
2:31:17
You know who you are.
2:31:19
A couple of random clips.
2:31:23
I thought this, the jet fuel Cuba thing
2:31:25
should be mentioned.
2:31:26
I think this is kind of interesting.
2:31:29
Okay.
2:31:29
Because I have a question about it.
2:31:31
All right, here we go.
2:31:31
Cuba is warning international airlines that jet fuel
2:31:34
will no longer be available on the island
2:31:36
starting today.
2:31:37
It's the latest sign of worsening conditions as
2:31:39
the U.S. is cutting off the communist
2:31:41
-run nation's oil supply.
2:31:43
And today's international correspondent, Arian Pazdar.
2:31:46
Cuba is issuing a notice to airlines saying
2:31:48
jet fuel is no longer available on the
2:31:51
island.
2:31:51
The nation is implementing a fuel rationing plan
2:31:54
as the U.S. is cutting off the
2:31:56
communist-run nation's oil supply.
2:31:58
Urgent measures must be taken because people who
2:32:03
are going to travel far away, if there
2:32:04
is no fuel, I don't know if their
2:32:06
flights will be canceled.
2:32:08
Cuba has historically relied on Venezuela to provide
2:32:11
most of its jet fuel.
2:32:12
But the nation has not received any oil
2:32:15
from its top allies since mid-December, when
2:32:17
the U.S. moved to block the South
2:32:19
American nation's exports.
2:32:21
In late January, President Trump signed an executive
2:32:23
order to impose a tariff on countries that
2:32:26
sell or provide oil to Cuba.
2:32:29
On Monday, Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum confirmed that
2:32:32
oil shipments from Mexico to Cuba have been
2:32:34
halted.
2:32:35
But she says Mexico still seeks to support
2:32:38
the people of Cuba.
2:32:39
Two vessels carrying around 800 tons of humanitarian
2:32:42
aid deported Mexico on Sunday to support the
2:32:45
island.
2:32:46
We're going to help the people of Cuba,
2:32:50
as we've always helped at any time peoples
2:32:52
who need it.
2:32:53
And now food was sent mainly, and more
2:32:56
is going to be sent.
2:32:57
The fuel shortage is strongly affecting everyday life
2:33:00
in Cuba.
2:33:01
Congresswoman Maria Salazar warns, do not travel to
2:33:04
Cuba.
2:33:06
Oops, sorry.
2:33:07
Medicine only blackouts hunger and repression.
2:33:10
Don't risk your safety.
2:33:12
A regime in its final hours is unpredictable
2:33:14
and dangerous.
2:33:15
All right, what's your question?
2:33:17
Well, the regime in this fight, what do
2:33:18
we got against Cuba that we're taking such
2:33:21
extreme steps here?
2:33:23
Because it's never explained.
2:33:24
Somebody brought it up on one of these
2:33:26
talk shows.
2:33:26
I said, what's this thing with Cuba?
2:33:28
They haven't attacked us.
2:33:29
They haven't done anything.
2:33:30
They're just sitting there, you know, languishing, basically.
2:33:34
So what's the big deal?
2:33:36
I have to say there's something we're not
2:33:38
being told about.
2:33:39
It's got to be.
2:33:40
And I think it's China.
2:33:42
I think China, we've talked about it before.
2:33:46
Yep.
2:33:46
Some years ago, they're going to try to
2:33:48
put up bases, monitoring bases.
2:33:50
China's been trying to establish those in Cuba.
2:33:53
And for some reason, this information is being
2:33:56
now not discussed at all.
2:33:59
There's something up.
2:34:00
Well, since you're on oil and other countries,
2:34:04
I have a question for you regarding this.
2:34:07
Bloomberg reports that for the first time in
2:34:09
years, Venezuela is sending its first crude oil
2:34:13
shipment to Israel.
2:34:14
That shipment comes just under a month after
2:34:17
the U.S. captured the country's former leader,
2:34:20
Nicolas Maduro.
2:34:21
Since Maduro's takedown and the subsequent U.S.
2:34:24
takeover of Venezuela's oil sales, Brent and crude
2:34:27
have been on a tear.
2:34:29
Brent crude up 10 and a quarter percent,
2:34:32
while West Texas intermediate up 9 percent.
2:34:35
The oil shipment to Israel comes just as
2:34:37
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu flies to Washington
2:34:40
for a meeting with President Trump tomorrow in
2:34:43
a bid to influence U.S. nuclear talks
2:34:45
with Iran.
2:34:46
This meeting comes also amid heightening Iranian threats
2:34:49
about the Strait of Hormuz.
2:34:51
It's that important choke point for the world's
2:34:54
crucial oil transfer.
2:34:56
Now, here's my question.
2:34:58
Does Israel have refining capability for- Not
2:35:02
that I know of.
2:35:03
Iranian oil, I mean, Venezuelan oil?
2:35:06
This makes no sense to me.
2:35:09
It makes no sense to me either because
2:35:10
Venezuelan oil is a very specific heavy crude.
2:35:13
Yeah.
2:35:14
That has a lot of, you know, it
2:35:16
has a lot of things you can do
2:35:17
with it, mainly asphalt that you can get
2:35:19
out of there.
2:35:21
And it has other properties that are unusual.
2:35:24
And you'd take specialized refiners, which we have,
2:35:28
China has.
2:35:29
There's other, they're around here.
2:35:30
I mean, I suppose- I think this
2:35:31
is bullcrap.
2:35:32
It sounds like bullcrap to me.
2:35:34
What are they going to do with the
2:35:35
crude?
2:35:35
Are they going to use it for-
2:35:37
I don't know.
2:35:39
I mean, what would they use it for?
2:35:40
I mean, they don't have refineries in Israel
2:35:42
that I know of.
2:35:43
Maybe there is one.
2:35:45
Ask the robot if there's a refinery in
2:35:48
Israel.
2:35:48
I don't have the robot queued up.
2:35:51
Oh, because the robot doesn't speak in Linux.
2:35:54
No, the robot speaks Linux just fine.
2:35:57
I forgot to set her up.
2:35:59
But the point, because people were posting this
2:36:01
on X like, I bet they won't talk
2:36:05
about this.
2:36:07
I'm like, yeah, we will because I don't
2:36:09
get it.
2:36:09
It makes no sense.
2:36:10
I mean, we, America, America, we are the,
2:36:14
we are the, we are the ones who
2:36:16
know this stuff.
2:36:17
We understand.
2:36:18
We understand crude oil from Venezuela.
2:36:21
And let me ask the robot.
2:36:23
Let me see.
2:36:23
Will this, oh, the robot all of a
2:36:25
sudden is talking to me in Dutch.
2:36:27
This is interesting.
2:36:29
Hoe kan ik u vandaag helpen?
2:36:31
Okay.
2:36:32
Wow.
2:36:33
Why does this- You can talk to
2:36:34
it in Dutch.
2:36:34
You can speak Dutch, Tom.
2:36:36
Ask it in Dutch, see what it says.
2:36:38
Hold on, I just, I just want to
2:36:39
get an answer.
2:36:40
This will be the, this is the grok
2:36:43
bot.
2:36:43
I don't have a- The grok, grok
2:36:46
is, I like grok.
2:36:47
Yeah.
2:36:48
But what is, this thing is, chat, chat.
2:36:53
Here we go, chat.
2:36:53
Okay.
2:36:54
Does Israel, yes, allow.
2:36:57
Does Israel have refineries that can handle Venezuelan
2:37:02
oil?
2:37:03
Israel does have refineries like the one in
2:37:06
Haifa run by Bazan Energy.
2:37:08
It can process heavy crude oil, which Venezuelan
2:37:11
oil tends to be.
2:37:12
Stuff like mary that's high in sulfur and
2:37:15
needs specific handling.
2:37:17
But they've been picky lately due to quality
2:37:19
issues and geopolitics.
2:37:21
From what I know up to my cutoff,
2:37:23
Israel hasn't imported Venezuelan oil since sanctions kicked
2:37:26
in around 2018.
2:37:28
And even before that, it wasn't a big
2:37:30
deal.
2:37:31
They'd need upgrades or blending to make it
2:37:33
work smoothly now.
2:37:35
There you go.
2:37:36
That's interesting.
2:37:37
Okay, so Haifa, which is up, I think,
2:37:40
north.
2:37:40
Yes.
2:37:42
Yeah, that'd be a place for it on
2:37:44
the water there.
2:37:45
They got a coastal.
2:37:47
You need access to the water so you
2:37:49
can bring the tankers in, obviously.
2:37:51
So have they upgraded?
2:37:52
Have they upgraded to do this?
2:37:56
I guess.
2:37:57
Well, I think you can blend back this
2:37:58
stuff.
2:37:59
People have talked about that.
2:38:00
Well, there you go.
2:38:01
Well, it's obvious.
2:38:02
You mix it with something else.
2:38:03
Look, it's obvious Mossad is controlling Trump.
2:38:05
That's why he had to send some Venezuelan
2:38:08
oil to Israel.
2:38:09
Just so you know, that is what's going
2:38:11
on here.
2:38:13
You know, some of these refineries are designed
2:38:17
around the crude oil.
2:38:20
Generally, there's general purpose refineries that can handle
2:38:22
everything, and they're built that way, and they're
2:38:24
huge.
2:38:26
And then some refineries are specific to, they
2:38:29
just specialize in certain kinds of oil because
2:38:32
they're good at it.
2:38:33
And if you've got a thing that can
2:38:35
take sulfur out and handle all the heavy
2:38:38
stuff and has the catalytic cracking and all
2:38:40
the rest of it, that you need that
2:38:42
oil to keep things going properly.
2:38:44
Another question.
2:38:45
How much did Israel pay the United States
2:38:48
for this crude oil?
2:38:51
In a perfect world, trade's about fair deals.
2:38:54
No one's getting handouts.
2:38:55
But geopolitics?
2:38:57
That's messier.
2:38:58
If Israel's buying Venezuelan crude rerouted through the
2:39:01
U.S. You don't have an answer.
2:39:02
Shut up.
2:39:04
Yeah.
2:39:04
Doesn't have an answer.
2:39:05
You're ad-libbing.
2:39:05
I want a price.
2:39:09
She's freewheeling.
2:39:10
She's going on and on.
2:39:12
All right.
2:39:12
You got a final clip you want to
2:39:14
play?
2:39:14
Or what do you want?
2:39:15
Well, let's see.
2:39:16
I can come up with a shorty here,
2:39:17
I think.
2:39:20
Well, the Canadian bridge story should be, at
2:39:23
least we can catch up on this.
2:39:24
This is kind of interesting.
2:39:26
If you're not letting the bridge, you've got
2:39:28
a bridge, then they're outworked, and Trump doesn't
2:39:30
want the bridge to work.
2:39:31
Canada reels from one of the worst mass
2:39:34
shootings in its history.
2:39:35
Police named the suspect as 18-year-old
2:39:38
Jesse Van Vertselaar.
2:39:40
Eight people were killed.
2:39:41
You're playing.
2:39:42
I'm playing trans.
2:39:43
I'm sorry.
2:39:44
It's the wrong one.
2:39:44
No, no, Canada Bridge.
2:39:45
I saw it.
2:39:46
Yes, I thought it was all BBC, but
2:39:48
it's NTD.
2:39:49
It's my mistake.
2:39:52
The trans bridge is the problem.
2:39:54
President threatening to block the opening of a
2:39:56
bridge connecting the U.S. and Canada as
2:39:59
he warns Ottawa of cozying up to the
2:40:01
Chinese regime.
2:40:02
We now go live to NTD's Washington correspondent
2:40:04
Mario Tsu at the White House.
2:40:06
Mari, good evening.
2:40:07
President Trump threatens to block the opening of
2:40:09
a bridge between the U.S. and Canada
2:40:11
unless Ottawa negotiates with Washington on tariffs and
2:40:14
the exclusion of American products.
2:40:16
He accuses Canada of taking advantage of the
2:40:18
U.S. with unfair trade practices and cozying
2:40:21
up to the Chinese regime.
2:40:22
The fact that Canada will control what crosses
2:40:24
the Gordie Howe Bridge and owns the land
2:40:27
on both sides is unacceptable to the president.
2:40:30
It's also unacceptable that more of this bridge
2:40:32
isn't being built with more American-made materials,
2:40:35
even more so than what President Barack Obama
2:40:38
committed to with the Canadians at the time,
2:40:40
at the start of the project.
2:40:41
Canada gets a lot of freebies from us,
2:40:43
by the way.
2:40:44
They should be grateful also, but they're not.
2:40:46
Canada lives because of the United States.
2:40:48
Canada's Prime Minister Mark Carney says he's spoken
2:40:50
with President Trump after the president issued that
2:40:53
threat and that the situation will be resolved,
2:40:55
although he didn't give further details.
2:40:57
And this is coming just a couple weeks
2:40:59
after President Trump threatened 100% tariffs on
2:41:02
Canada if they made a deal with the
2:41:04
Chinese regime.
2:41:05
Tiff, back to you.
2:41:06
Is that true?
2:41:07
Does Canada own the land on both sides
2:41:12
of the bridge?
2:41:13
I don't think it makes any sense.
2:41:15
I thought Michigan owned the land on one
2:41:18
side.
2:41:19
This is just another, like, Greenland thing.
2:41:21
Screw you about this story.
2:41:24
Well, I agree.
2:41:26
I mean, you know, Canada needs to pay
2:41:29
us no matter what.
2:41:29
Just pay us.
2:41:30
Just because Trump says so, pay us.
2:41:34
It's our country.
2:41:37
Obviously, they're not going to build a bridge
2:41:39
that crosses the border there and just let
2:41:43
it sit empty.
2:41:44
You can't do that, because there's already a
2:41:48
jam up on that bridge in Windsor.
2:41:50
There's got to be something else behind this.
2:41:52
There's something else going on.
2:41:53
We don't get told enough stuff.
2:42:03
Well, we don't get told enough stuff.
2:42:10
We do have a few people to thank
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for show 1841 and 1842.
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And Adam will read them off.
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These are the people that donated $50 and
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above.
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guess that's Valentine's.
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ITM John, thank you for your courage.
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Yes.
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John is a master interviewer.
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I don't know about that.
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You sounded very light.
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You sounded like you didn't have your normal
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heavy, heavy processing that I give you, the
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big balls.
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Geek rolling.
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I could have corrected that.
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I just didn't do it.
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Yeah, a bit lazy.
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Geek rolling.
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Let's boost him to Associate Executive Producer.
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That is correct.
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Let me just mark that on my spreadsheet.
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Okay.
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Podcasting.
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Akron, Ohio, $61.
2:44:32
Thank you, Dave.
2:44:33
Lawrence Allar in Cochran, Minnesota, $58.
2:44:38
Timothy Tillman from Mechanicsville, Virginia, $56.83. And
2:44:44
then we go to Christina Henry.
2:44:45
Ah, she's a dame.
2:44:47
Deputy, Indiana.
2:44:48
This little, $55.95, which it is.
2:44:51
And my measly little monthly donation gets me
2:44:54
to baronetta status and lets me wish Charlie
2:44:57
a happy 50th birthday.
2:45:00
Charlie turns 50 on Friday the 13th.
2:45:02
He finally caught up to me in the
2:45:03
50s.
2:45:03
And they're both lovely people.
2:45:05
Christine Hines, Manchester, New Hampshire, $55.55. Rick
2:45:09
LaBlanca in Hope, Rhode Island.
2:45:11
We don't get a lot from Rhode Island.
2:45:13
$54.32. And here we have Brittany Miller
2:45:16
from Trinidad, Colorado.
2:45:18
And it's blue, which means she's got something
2:45:20
coming up here.
2:45:21
ITM John Adam, apparently, as of January 7th.
2:45:24
I'm a dame.
2:45:25
The layaway plan works.
2:45:27
My smoking hot husband hit me in the
2:45:29
mouth a few years ago on a road
2:45:30
trip where I was a captive audience.
2:45:31
To be honest, I only agreed to listen
2:45:33
because I'm a child of the 80s and
2:45:35
90s MTV.
2:45:37
Thanks for teaching me not to believe everything
2:45:40
I read.
2:45:40
Hey, it's good for something.
2:45:42
You know what I'm going to say?
2:45:43
You know what I'm saying here?
2:45:46
Hold on.
2:45:46
She wants some jingles here.
2:45:47
My keyboard is doubling letters.
2:45:53
Have you ever had that?
2:45:54
This is Linux.
2:45:58
Doubling your value.
2:46:00
Let me see.
2:46:01
Kamala.
2:46:02
It's yeah, it's doing like.
2:46:05
That was auto bounce.
2:46:07
That's so weird.
2:46:09
Hmm.
2:46:09
I'm not sure why it's doing the auto
2:46:11
bounce.
2:46:12
Anyway, thanks for teaching me not to believe
2:46:14
everything I read.
2:46:15
I'd love a Publix sub and Diet Coke
2:46:18
at the round table.
2:46:20
I have to order that.
2:46:21
I haven't even put that in yet.
2:46:23
Can you guys still take care of that?
2:46:25
Publix sub and Diet Coke?
2:46:28
Yeah.
2:46:31
Uh wow, I am.
2:46:33
Do you think that is Linux?
2:46:35
That Linux is doubling up on this stuff?
2:46:38
Yeah, it's your it's your sense of humor
2:46:40
that the AI has.
2:46:42
Hey, watch this.
2:46:44
Jingles, please.
2:46:45
Kamala, don't come.
2:46:46
Trump, I'm going to come.
2:46:47
Thanks, Dame Brittany, Trinidad, Colorado.
2:46:49
Do not come.
2:46:49
I'm going to come.
2:46:50
There you go.
2:46:53
Bradley Bowman in Duluth, Minnesota.
2:46:57
5218.
2:46:57
Sir GK in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
2:46:59
Sir GK here.
2:47:00
Turning 51 on February 8th.
2:47:02
Please add me to the birthday list.
2:47:04
Yeah, of course, we couldn't do you on
2:47:05
the last show, but you're on it for
2:47:06
today.
2:47:07
The Librarian in San Francisco, California.
2:47:10
5150 from the Librarian.
2:47:12
Mike Vaughn, Village of Clarkston, Michigan.
2:47:15
Birthday shout out to human resource number one.
2:47:18
Lucas, born on 2725 and wants some baby
2:47:22
making karma.
2:47:23
I will give you that at the end.
2:47:25
Would love to do that for you.
2:47:27
Josiah Thomas, Ankeny, Iowa.
2:47:29
51.
2:47:30
Bad Idea Supply.
2:47:32
There they are.
2:47:33
Bad Idea Supply in...
2:47:35
Where's Bad Idea Supply?
2:47:37
It's in the Midwest someplace.
2:47:38
Look him up on the internet.
2:47:39
Bad Idea Supply.
2:47:40
They make burning gear.
2:47:42
Yes, they...
2:47:43
For burners or just burning gear for fun
2:47:46
stuff?
2:47:47
Like, you know, burn barrel, professional grade burn
2:47:51
barrel kind of things.
2:47:52
Things you can burn with.
2:47:55
Viscounts, your economic hitman in Tomball, Texas.
2:47:58
$50 and one penny.
2:47:59
These are the 50s as we roll to
2:48:01
them now.
2:48:02
We've got Stephen Ray, Spokane, Washington.
2:48:05
Edward Mazurek, Memphis, Tennessee.
2:48:07
Lee Harwood in Melbourne, Victoria.
2:48:10
Joy Padilla in South San Francisco.
2:48:13
Rene Knighe in Utrecht.
2:48:15
Roderick Brown in Mermaid.
2:48:19
Prince Edward Island in Canada.
2:48:22
I knew I'd get it.
2:48:22
And there's Stephen Shoemake again from Zeni, Ohio
2:48:25
with 50.
2:48:25
Thank you, Stephen.
2:48:26
Tim Delbecchio, Blandon, Pennsylvania.
2:48:29
Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, California.
2:48:31
Carrie Jackson, Watertown, Tennessee.
2:48:34
High Hawker in Higginsville, Missouri.
2:48:37
And rounding out our list of 50s is
2:48:39
Ox Utherix in Buffalo, New York.
2:48:42
We thank all of these supporters.
2:48:44
$50 and above.
2:48:47
Very much for your support of the best
2:48:48
podcasts in the universe.
2:48:49
Here's that baby making karma as requested.
2:48:53
You've got karma.
2:49:01
Beautiful.
2:49:02
And we do have quite a number of
2:49:03
fun things to take care of today on
2:49:05
the list, including that beautiful meetup report.
2:49:07
But again, thanks to these supporters and our
2:49:10
executive and associate executive producers.
2:49:12
Set up a value for value donation.
2:49:14
Go to noagendadonations.com.
2:49:16
Send us whatever value you got out of
2:49:18
the podcast.
2:49:19
That's all we ask for.
2:49:20
Do it as frequently as you want for
2:49:22
any amount with a sustaining donation.
2:49:25
Noagendadonations.com.
2:49:31
And so here's our list.
2:49:33
Mike Vaughn, happy birthday to his human resource
2:49:35
number one, Lucas, who turned one on February
2:49:37
7th.
2:49:38
Joe wishes the Baron of Old Bay a
2:49:40
happy birthday, 59, on February 8th.
2:49:42
Sir Gooch, monkey boy, happy birthday for him,
2:49:45
February 8th.
2:49:46
Sir GK turned 51 on February 8th.
2:49:49
Dame Catherine wishes her late husband Bill Walsh,
2:49:51
aka Sir Saturday Night, a very happy birthday.
2:49:54
He would have been 45 on February 8th.
2:49:57
I have a note to read from her
2:49:58
later.
2:49:58
Kevin McKenna wishes his son, Grace, a very
2:50:00
happy 11th, celebrated on the 10th.
2:50:04
Christina Henry, happy birthday to Charlie, turning 50
2:50:07
on Friday the 13th.
2:50:08
Luke Brown, his smoking hot wife, Abby, celebrates
2:50:11
on Valentine's Day the 14th.
2:50:13
And Joel VanDick turns 34 on Valentine's Day.
2:50:16
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best
2:50:18
podcast in the universe.
2:50:31
Yeah, we got a title change.
2:50:33
You heard it.
2:50:34
Dame Christina Henry becomes a baroness today.
2:50:37
And it looks mighty handsome on you, Dame
2:50:39
Christina Henry.
2:50:41
That sash looks just dynamite.
2:50:43
Congratulations.
2:50:44
And thank you for supporting the best podcast
2:50:46
in the universe.
2:50:48
Then we have a knight, two knights, and
2:50:50
one dame to bring up.
2:50:51
So if we can get our swords for
2:50:53
a second.
2:50:54
Where's my swords?
2:50:55
There we go.
2:50:55
Wow.
2:50:56
There we go.
2:50:56
Here's one.
2:50:58
Oh, that's, oh, that's a pretty one.
2:51:00
I like that.
2:51:03
Up on the podium, Brittany Miller, Harry Klan,
2:51:07
and June Nonomous.
2:51:08
All three of you have reached that wonderful
2:51:11
status of knights and dame of the Noah
2:51:14
Jenner Round Table.
2:51:15
I'm very proud to pronounce the KB as
2:51:17
Dame Brittany, Sir Sauerkraut of the North Texas
2:51:21
and circumcision for you.
2:51:25
We have Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and
2:51:27
Chardonnay.
2:51:27
We have Public Sub and Diet Coke.
2:51:29
We've got Harlots and Algal, Pepperoni Rolls and
2:51:33
Pale Ales.
2:51:33
We got Redheads and Ryes.
2:51:35
We got our organic macaroni and plasticizers, beer
2:51:38
and blunts.
2:51:39
We got Geishas and Sake, Breast Milk and
2:51:42
Palming, Ginger Ale and Gerbils.
2:51:43
And of course, we always have some mutton
2:51:46
and mead at the Round Table.
2:51:47
Go to NoahJennerRings.com.
2:51:49
That is where you will be able to
2:51:51
look at the handsome ring that is good
2:51:53
for both dames and knights.
2:51:55
All we need from you is a ring
2:51:56
size so that we can send you the
2:51:58
proper rings, the properly sized ring.
2:52:00
And along with that, obviously, a certificate of
2:52:02
authenticity.
2:52:03
And it always comes with some wax to
2:52:06
seal your important correspondence.
2:52:07
We have a missed note from Sir Mr.
2:52:11
Bob Dabolina that was $350 donated in episode
2:52:15
1838.
2:52:16
He wrote his note of the 200 characters
2:52:18
allowed on PayPal.
2:52:19
I think we did this.
2:52:20
Didn't we talk about this?
2:52:23
That he said you didn't see it?
2:52:26
I don't remember.
2:52:27
Yes, it was.
2:52:28
I remember this because he said the state
2:52:30
of Florida tested 46 candies and found unacceptable
2:52:33
amount of arsenic in 28 of them.
2:52:34
Yes, I remember this.
2:52:35
We talked about it.
2:52:36
I don't remember us reading it.
2:52:37
I remember reading the note.
2:52:38
No, I'm pretty sure we read it on
2:52:40
the show.
2:52:41
Okay.
2:52:42
I could be wrong.
2:52:46
Does he have anything else in here?
2:52:49
No, I think we got all of that.
2:52:51
But then we had a Dame request from
2:52:53
Dame Catherine.
2:52:56
On January 4th, my husband's friend, Stefan, sent
2:53:01
in a note to share that my husband,
2:53:02
Bill Walsh, a.k.a. Sir Saturday Night,
2:53:05
died suddenly just before Christmas.
2:53:07
While his death was unexpected, so was our
2:53:09
friend's tribute.
2:53:10
I jolted from my seat when I heard
2:53:12
Bill's name and was so touched, despite Adam
2:53:14
calling him a douche in the next breath.
2:53:16
Oh, come on.
2:53:18
I think I was very nice about it.
2:53:20
And in fact, I said that it's always
2:53:23
interesting how the people who yell at us
2:53:25
the most actually love us the most.
2:53:27
And she says, yes, Bill indeed loved the
2:53:29
show, contributing his time, talent, and treasure as
2:53:31
often as possible.
2:53:32
Financially, he was a baronet working on his
2:53:34
way to baron status.
2:53:35
Our night and Dame rings were proudly used
2:53:37
in our 10-10 2020 wedding.
2:53:40
Otherwise, his efforts.
2:53:44
And developing the bones of a personal website
2:53:47
for John, about which Bill didn't hear back,
2:53:50
despite follow-up attempts.
2:53:51
I hope you feel bad, John.
2:53:53
He regularly competed in the weekly art contest
2:53:56
and recently developed a website, and the A
2:53:58
.I. Slop Songs promoted N.A. and Ashland
2:54:00
Speed.
2:54:01
Yes, he made the Ashland Speed as a
2:54:03
pop artist.
2:54:05
He was most proud of creating the John's
2:54:07
I Got Ants song some years ago and
2:54:09
would light up when someone requested the short
2:54:12
or long version of it with their donation.
2:54:14
Bill's life was cut too short at age
2:54:16
44.
2:54:17
His 45th birthday would fall on the next
2:54:19
show day, February 8th, 26.
2:54:21
I'm therefore requesting a posthumous birthday shout out.
2:54:24
Further, I'm also requesting that the full John's
2:54:27
I Got Ants song be played in his
2:54:29
honor at the end of the show, February
2:54:31
8th, 26, as he created it.
2:54:33
I will do that.
2:54:34
And then he asked, she asked, it's maybe
2:54:39
a long shot, but as Bill was chronically
2:54:40
online in communication with more Noah Jenner producers
2:54:43
than I even know, I wonder if the
2:54:45
link to his obituary newly posted on the
2:54:47
Funeral Home this week could be quietly included
2:54:49
in this episode's show notes.
2:54:51
Absolutely.
2:54:53
We'll take care of that.
2:54:54
And we already have three end of show
2:54:56
mixes, but I will put in the I've
2:54:58
Got Ants song for him in memory of
2:55:00
Bill.
2:55:01
And thank you so much for sending that
2:55:03
note, Dame Catherine.
2:55:05
I just love that they use their knight
2:55:08
and dame rings.
2:55:10
Yeah, that is cute.
2:55:11
That is very cute.
2:55:12
So we miss Strokey Bill, Sir Bill, as
2:55:15
we would miss anybody who leaves Gitmo Nation.
2:55:17
And God bless him.
2:55:27
You can join in any single time you
2:55:30
want, anytime you want to go meet some
2:55:31
people from Gitmo Nation, go to NoahJennerMeetups.com
2:55:34
to find out where these meetups take place.
2:55:37
One of them is in Indianapolis in Indy.
2:55:40
And here's Dame Annette Miller's Indy Meetup report.
2:56:08
Hi, this is Dame Trinity.
2:56:11
In the morning, having a great time in
2:56:13
Indy, surviving the brutal cold.
2:56:15
In the morning, John and Adam, Sir PBR
2:56:16
Street Gang, enjoying another conspiracy therapy session here
2:56:20
in Indy.
2:56:20
This is Katie from St. Joseph's Public House
2:56:23
and Brewery in downtown Indianapolis, serving the No
2:56:26
Agenda crew this Sunday.
2:56:28
In the morning, Stan Turner's alive.
2:56:34
Okay, always wonderful how you include your server.
2:56:37
All meetup reports should always include a server.
2:56:41
And there's one taking place on February 14th.
2:56:43
That's this Saturday, Valentine's Day, the Treasure Valley
2:56:45
Boise Meetup, three o'clock at the Old
2:56:48
State Saloon.
2:56:49
And on Sunday, our next show day, the
2:56:52
TMI EVAC Zone Card Game Meetup, 3.30
2:56:55
at Evergreen Brewing in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania.
2:56:59
Also on Sunday, the East Texas Mid-Monthly
2:57:01
Meetup, and that'll be at 3.33 p
2:57:03
.m. at Rotolo's Pizzeria.
2:57:05
Dirty Jersey Whore will be hosting that.
2:57:07
Coming up in this month of February, Charlotte,
2:57:09
North Carolina, Fort Wayne, Indiana, Santa Cruz, California,
2:57:13
Long Beach, California, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Francisco,
2:57:17
and Prairieville, Louisiana.
2:57:19
There's many more in March, going all the
2:57:21
way into April and into May.
2:57:23
Go find them all at noagendameetups.com.
2:57:25
I believe April 11th will be another Fredericksburg
2:57:29
Meetup.
2:57:30
So I'm looking forward to that.
2:57:31
And so is Tima the Keeper.
2:57:32
Find out where all these meetups are taking
2:57:34
place, noagendameetups.com.
2:57:36
If you can't find one near you, here's
2:57:38
a very simple tip.
2:57:39
Start one yourself.
2:57:40
It's very easy and guaranteed a party.
2:58:04
Yeah, just like a party.
2:58:07
Party, party, party.
2:58:07
We have John's tip of the day coming
2:58:09
up and extended end of show mixes, including
2:58:11
the I Got Ants by Sir Bill.
2:58:15
But before we do that, we always like
2:58:17
to do a little bit of a man
2:58:18
versus the machine, see what ISOs we can
2:58:20
come up with for the end of the
2:58:22
show.
2:58:23
I see you have three.
2:58:26
Three, yes.
2:58:27
Do you want me to start as usual?
2:58:28
Yes, please.
2:58:29
Those two together is awesome.
2:58:32
Okay, I thought that was pretty good.
2:58:36
Those guys really brought the value today.
2:58:40
Yes, you're right.
2:58:41
That was AI.
2:58:41
Where'd you get that?
2:58:42
That was AI.
2:58:42
Where'd that come from?
2:58:43
That was AI.
2:58:44
Someone gave it to me.
2:58:46
It's AI.
2:58:46
AI, yeah.
2:58:47
Well, now you're saying it's not AI because
2:58:48
someone gave it to you.
2:58:49
So it doesn't count as AI.
2:58:51
I said it was AI.
2:58:52
It's AI.
2:58:52
After I asked.
2:58:53
Okay, this is not AI.
2:58:56
Oh, it's an Ogg file.
2:58:58
I can't play the Ogg file.
2:59:01
Ogg Vorbis.
2:59:02
Ogg Vorbis will not play.
2:59:04
Well, instead, let me play.
2:59:06
Let me see.
2:59:08
Do I have this?
2:59:09
Maybe this one.
2:59:11
No agenda is my guilty pleasure.
2:59:15
Donate.
2:59:16
Another.
2:59:17
Yeah, I knew you'd like it, but it's
2:59:19
AI.
2:59:19
I'm kind of low on the fact that
2:59:21
it was AI.
2:59:23
I like that one.
2:59:24
I know you like the donate part.
2:59:26
I know exactly what you like.
2:59:28
Well, I'm not an idiot.
2:59:29
No, you're not.
2:59:31
So here we go.
2:59:32
This is a real one.
2:59:34
We're switching roles because I have a real
2:59:36
clip here.
2:59:37
Here's the ISO nothing.
2:59:39
We learn nothing.
2:59:41
Okay.
2:59:43
True.
2:59:43
Also true.
2:59:44
Yes, true.
2:59:45
True.
2:59:45
Okay.
2:59:46
So here's where we go to the good
2:59:48
stuff.
2:59:48
Here's a Hoi Poloi.
2:59:49
Wow.
2:59:50
How can the Hoi Poloi ignore this podcast?
2:59:55
It needs to be quicker.
2:59:58
Okay, then we'll go to this one, which
3:00:00
is the last one I have, which is
3:00:01
drinks.
3:00:02
Excellent podcast as usual.
3:00:04
Drinks for everyone.
3:00:06
Yeah, see, I know you like mine better.
3:00:08
I know it because it says donate.
3:00:09
Here we go.
3:00:10
Let's listen to it again.
3:00:11
No agenda is my guilty pleasure.
3:00:15
Donate.
3:00:15
I mean, I know you like it.
3:00:16
I know that's what you want.
3:00:17
You want that to be the one at
3:00:19
the end of the show.
3:00:20
True or not?
3:00:20
What are you trying to hypnotize me?
3:00:22
Yeah.
3:00:23
And while we have decided that, let's do
3:00:26
the tip of the day.
3:00:37
Look, I have these things at the dinner
3:00:39
table and I'm thinking, yeah, I should make
3:00:41
a tip of the day.
3:00:43
Okay.
3:00:44
And these are the home memory LED taper
3:00:47
candles.
3:00:48
These are the flameless candles that have a
3:00:50
have a remote and a timer.
3:00:54
And, you know, I've been looking at these.
3:00:56
I've had him for a year.
3:00:57
I got him as a gift.
3:00:59
And I said, I don't want flameless candy,
3:01:01
stupid candles that are they flicker.
3:01:03
They look like candles and they seem like
3:01:06
candles and they're candles looking things.
3:01:08
And I've actually gotten so used to them.
3:01:11
I don't see why anyone would buy candles.
3:01:12
These things cost about the same amount per
3:01:14
candle, about three bucks a piece.
3:01:17
Candles and candles can be very expensive.
3:01:20
I find candles can move.
3:01:21
These are the tapers.
3:01:22
The ones I'm recommending are the stick candles
3:01:25
that go into a candle holder.
3:01:27
But they also you can also get the
3:01:29
big round giant candles that have a which
3:01:31
actually look even more realistic that are available.
3:01:36
Also, you can look at flameless candles on
3:01:39
Amazon or anywhere you want to go.
3:01:41
And I just recommend them.
3:01:43
I think they're fabulous.
3:01:44
A little remote control.
3:01:46
You need the remote control.
3:01:48
They have these at restaurants, except not with
3:01:50
the remote control.
3:01:51
They have them at restaurants.
3:01:53
No, but you can bring, you know, the
3:01:54
remote control is universal.
3:01:55
Oh, you bring it to the restaurant and
3:01:57
turn everyone's candle off.
3:01:58
Yeah, you good.
3:02:00
There's another tip of the day.
3:02:01
It's a sub tip of the day.
3:02:03
Bring the remote control to the restaurant and
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just casually walk by and turn off the
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candles.
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Do you remember we used to do that
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with remote controls and be turning off?
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Yeah, the bar.
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Yeah, the bar.
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Turn off the TVs.
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Remember when we were happy just messing with
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the TV at the bar?
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Remember, we didn't know where you knew what
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candles now.
3:02:23
We didn't need tick tock.
3:02:25
We didn't need social media.
3:02:26
We just need a remote control for the
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candles and that'll be fine.
3:02:29
These things in turn off some lights in
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the can.
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You know, the funny thing about having them
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at the table is occasionally one of them
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was just turn on out of the blue.
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Yes.
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Why would turn this?
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You know, what kind of rays are coming
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through the window?
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Sounds like quality stuff from China is what
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it's definitely quality stuff from China.
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But if you don't have these candles, I
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would I would recommend them as a cool
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thing to own.
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All right.
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There it is.
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Another fabulous tip of the day.
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Find them all at noagendafund.com or tipoftheday
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.net.
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All right.
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That concludes our show for today.
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And we look forward.
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Well, first of all, happy Valentine's Day, everybody.
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I hope you have a good one and
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do something nice for your loved one as
3:03:24
you should.
3:03:25
That's what you should be doing.
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Absolutely.
3:03:29
Coming up next on the No Agenda stream,
3:03:31
brand new to the stream.
3:03:33
Oh, it's good to have Josh and the
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crew from Disaffected.
3:03:37
This is a very, very good podcast.
3:03:40
Disaffected episode number 260.
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Talking about the the nut jobs in America,
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usually on TikTok.
3:03:50
This will be something you might want to
3:03:51
listen to, John.
3:03:53
He explains exactly how it works.
3:03:56
End of show mixes.
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We've got...
3:04:00
Let me see.
3:04:01
We've got MKUltraMark.
3:04:03
We've got MVP.
3:04:05
And we also have Kylan.
3:04:09
There you go.
3:04:09
And of course, that ant song from Bill
3:04:12
Walsh.
3:04:13
Coming to you from the heart of the
3:04:14
Texas Hill Country, FEMA region number six in
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the morning, everybody.
3:04:18
I'm Adam Curry.
3:04:20
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I wish
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everybody a happy Valentine's Day this Saturday.
3:04:24
I'm John C.
3:04:25
Dvorak.
3:04:25
We'll be back on Sunday.
3:04:26
Remember us at noagendadonations.com.
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Thank you for listening.
3:04:30
Until then, adios, mofos, hui hui, and such.
3:04:36
I'm reclaiming my time.
3:04:38
I'm reclaiming my time.
3:04:40
Order.
3:04:45
Frame of thought.
3:04:48
Goal I've sought.
3:04:50
I'll cut you off before the bird.
3:04:53
The rhythmic flow I must disturb.
3:04:56
Reclaiming my time.
3:04:57
I'm reclaiming my time.
3:04:59
I'm reclaiming my time.
3:05:15
Reclaiming my time.
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You better hide your kids.
3:06:05
Hide your wife.
3:06:06
The transurrection has come tonight.
3:06:08
And when it's here, fear for your life.
3:06:11
Next time, try to get their pronouns right.
3:06:13
They cuss and curse because they're offended.
3:06:16
There's nothing worse than being misgendered.
3:06:18
And when they are, you better run far.
3:06:24
You know we are above God's children.
3:06:29
We're born complete and whole.
3:06:33
So close your hearts with me, God willing.
3:06:37
You gave us sacred souls.
3:06:44
You better hide your kids.
3:06:46
Hide your wife.
3:06:47
The transurrection is coming tonight.
3:06:49
Before their bodies are in the ground.
3:06:52
The media's debating about pronouns.
3:06:54
In clown world, the murderer must be honored.
3:06:56
How dare you deadening Jeffrey Dahmer?
3:06:59
And if you do, the bitch of us
3:07:02
might sue.
3:07:04
You know we are above God's children.
3:07:10
We're born complete and whole.
3:07:14
So close your hearts with me, God willing.
3:07:19
You gave us sacred souls.
3:07:25
You better hide your kids.
3:07:27
Hide your wife.
3:07:28
The transurrection is coming tonight.
3:07:30
There's someone living inside them, all right.
3:07:33
They lost the fights.
3:07:34
We're the parasite that drives the minds of
3:07:36
the infected.
3:07:37
It's why they ree at Ivermecte.
3:07:40
It ain't the truth.
3:07:42
It's always been worse.
3:07:46
You know we are above God's children.
3:07:50
We're born complete and whole.
3:07:55
So close your hearts with me, God willing.
3:08:00
You gave us sacred souls.
3:08:15
Your wine tips really knock it out of
3:08:19
the park every single time.
3:08:20
You should just do wine tips all the
3:08:22
time, as far as I'm concerned.
3:08:24
And it's called method, M-E-T-H
3:08:27
-O-D, method, M-E-T-H-O
3:08:29
-D, method.
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And it's called method.
3:08:34
So this audience, they like the cheap stuff.
3:08:36
They like the cheap stuff.
3:08:37
It doesn't have mega purple in it.
3:08:39
You can tell by the core.
3:08:41
This hasn't been jacked up with a bunch
3:08:43
of chemical.
3:08:44
It's a California cabernet.
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And it's called method, M-E-T-H
3:08:49
-O-D.
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So this audience, they like the cheap stuff.
3:08:53
Well, you would never steer us wrong.
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Thank you.
3:09:00
I got ants.
3:09:08
Uh, I don't know if we had, you
3:09:14
know, ants, we had ant invasion.
3:09:17
I was thinking, if you desiccated a big
3:09:20
pile of ants and then ground them to
3:09:23
a powder, like a fine, fine grind of
3:09:26
black pepper, we were having dinner and, uh,
3:09:30
yeah, I got an ant, uh, somehow in
3:09:33
the meal.
3:09:34
And I ate it.
3:09:35
These things are peppery.
3:09:36
I got ants.
3:09:42
I got ants.
3:09:49
These ants, they don't need a lot.
3:09:50
And then you see, you find all the
3:09:52
ones that are roaming around.
3:09:52
Although I backed them up by doing the
3:09:55
burning trick.
3:09:56
Just torch them.
3:09:57
And you leave them there.
3:09:58
The only ant, there are occasional moments where
3:10:01
there's an ant that you do not torch.
3:10:03
And that's an ant that's carrying one of
3:10:05
the dead ants back.
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Ants.
3:10:29
Ants?
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Ants!
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