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Who hasn't been canceled? It's the No Exender Show! It
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is Sunday, August 16th, 2026. This is your Gitmo Nation
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Media Assassination Episode 1895, broadcasting live from just outside of
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Chirac, right here in FEMA, Region No. 5. In the
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morning, everybody, I am Darren O'Neill. And from the pretentious
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Connecticut shore, this is Larry Blydner keeping commies and creeps
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at bay with my gleaming scimitar of truth. Yeah, I
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mean, that was it, man. Woo! I love that new
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intro. We'll get chicks voice. And it's great. It's great
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stuff. Nice work, Darren. Larry wanted chicks. I know it
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wasn't just bakers. He brought in a bunch and it
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was like, well, we need this stuff to talk over
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and it needs to be a little quieter. And I'm
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like, let me go back into Suno and see and
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move everything around. And yeah, it's AI. And people are
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gonna be like, go fake and gay. then you put
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something in send something in where's sir chris vox where's
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some heavy metal directly from uh somebody that can play
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the guitar and sing there we go but like we
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can do the theremin let's add some theremin gotta have
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some theremin it always adds a certain uh creepy vibe
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Which we dig. Even on a beautiful Sunday morning. What's
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it like in Chicago? Chirac, excuse me, this morning or
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this afternoon, Darren. Tell me. Well, you're right with the
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time. Because I had been doing the rock and roll
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pre-show for like 700 episodes. And I was always just,
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okay, I did that. And then I went to have
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lunch. I forget that this show is like, I should
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eat something before the show. So literally like five minutes
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ago, I'm like, oh crap, this is going to be
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through. I'm going to be hungry. So I had to
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go grab a bar, a little bit of pudding, you
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know, something like that just to get you going. You
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need something. Definitely. But the rain finally stopped for like
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the first time in a week. The rain stopped? So
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you've been getting rained on all this time? Yeah, pretty
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much. No, it's no fun. But it's 82 degrees now,
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so you never know what's going to happen. You never
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know. It's a picture-perfect day in Connecticut. Well, what is
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that for Connecticut, though? Nice and cool? It's like high
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70s, puffy whites, very low humidity. Really, it's kind of
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like California. Well, no, why would you do that then?
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Right, exactly. But it's been rainy, too, out here. But,
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you know, we're still breathing. That's all that matters. It's
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the only way to go. Yeah. And we do encourage
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people to keep sending things in clips and openers and
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all the donations, donations, donations, the voice of JCD past.
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It's like what you need to do is you need
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to, you need to donate, keep the show going, vote
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and let people know that, you know, you want to
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keep this, uh, This pairing here. That's it. You've got...
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Donate! Donate! Go on, Nick! karma. Yeah, everybody gets, that
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really should be the one. Without the karma, we'll get
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karma. It's free. But donate. We are bringing you the
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best in media deconstruction. And nothing's going on in the
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world at all, Larry. Have you noticed how boring it
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is? You are so. You got to stop fibbing. Don't
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fib this early in the show. Save it for later.
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Like you have so much to do. Yeah. And I
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love, I mean, I've been reading the Reddit threads and
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people are like, these guys suck, man. I love the
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same people will complain. Darren and Larry, their voices sound
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way too radio. And then in another message, they're like,
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they're not playing enough of the jingles. Like, well, do
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you know that's the radio sound, right? That's the whole
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bit. Like, they don't even play the bell, man. Well,
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why don't they play the bell? Well, I have one
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of those little bells. I'd get one if you want.
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Yeah. Ding, ding, ding. Well, Reddit is so weird, man.
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I rarely visit that place because it's out there. It
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is. You can't believe anything that you read on Reddit.
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No. And for everybody that was like, oh, and then
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Adam was really mad that people were telling him to
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do the show with Mimi. So I thought about it
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like everybody on Reddit, do me a favor, get your
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wife or your children to write your post because it's
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just the same as you, according to Adam should do
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the show with Mimi. Then, well, then your wife should
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be the same. Put her on Reddit instead of you.
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It's going to be exactly the same, right? Because you
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can just interchange anybody. I think Reddit is mostly comprised
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of AOC voters living in their basement. Yeah. Of their
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parents' house. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Without a job. Without hope. Quite
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possibly. Without a lot of hope. Exactly. Yeah. Which one
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of these things do you want to jump into first
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from the Trump decoy plane to the in Iran? You
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know what? I'm going to do a switcheroo on you,
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Darren. I know I had Emily Gallagher label is number
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one. But since we were talking about people living in
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their parents' basements, I think we have to start with
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clip two. Abdul is Blue's Clues, that one. Okay, so
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I get a little set up here. Okay. Now, are
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you hip to Blue's Clues? I have nieces and nephews
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who were very big into Blue's. Is he still around?
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I know there's like a weird dude and there was
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like a handy dandy notebook and something like that. Yeah,
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for those who may not know, it was a kid's
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show back probably at least 20 years ago or more.
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hosted by a guy, a very nice young dude dressed
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in a rugby shirt and jeans. And it was probably
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created for kids from, I would say, what would you
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say, like maybe three to eight years old, something like
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that. Very young kids. Yeah, so the parents can put
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them in front of the television and be like, ah,
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that's your babysitter. Yes, and also, unlike Sesame Street and
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some of the other things, it wasn't at all slanted.
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There was no political message in Blue's Clues, which was
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the reason I used to let my kids watch it,
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and they liked it a lot. And so this guy
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sitting there, and he had a digital fake screen behind
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him, and Blue was the name of his dog. It
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was like this cute little hound dog, except it was
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fake. It was a digital cartoon thing. And they would
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learn to count and the alphabet and all that kind
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of stuff. So that said, this Abdul El-Sayand posted this
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actually a few weeks ago and it just resurfaced everywhere.
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I'm talking about, well, voting and Medicare and so forth.
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And he is dressed like the blues clues kid on
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purpose, on purpose, on purpose of the exact same set.
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Little, little cartoon things kind of wicking and out of
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the screen. And it's beyond belief. You got to hear
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this indoctrination. Anyone? Oh, yeah. Which is why we need
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money out of politics, money in your pocket, and Medicare
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for all. Here's the mail. It never fails. It makes
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me want to wag my tail. When it comes, I
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want to wail. Mail! Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. This
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is else I had singing and doing a bit. This
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is not AI. This is legit. This is real. Yes.
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This is who people in Michigan want to put into
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office, huh? Into the Senate. Yeah, right in Washington, D.C.
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Thanks, mailbox. We just got a letter. We just got
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a letter. We just got a letter. I wonder who
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it's from. You're loving this. What I'm loving this to
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our buddy net net who lives in the great state.
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Oh, well, once great state of Michigan. Yeah. He's been
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working on a boots on the ground that he said
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is probably going to have to be multiple pages and
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reports because of how bad things are. And I believe
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it now. This is. Yeah. Cementing that. Oh, yeah. Like,
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wow. Wow. It looks like my ballot. Yeah. brought to
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me by my secretary of state And with it, I
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can participate in democracy. The first day that I can
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turn this in is June 25th, but it has to
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be postmarked by July 21st. Or I can drop it
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off up until Election Day, which is August 4th. Thanks,
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Secretary of State. Thanks, Mailbox. Votes gonna do, we can't
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do. You should be thanking the U.S. Postal Service, which
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may or may not get your ballots there on time.
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Yeah. Now, here's the really kind of the back story
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on this. I saw this posted on X and there
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was an avalanche. I mean, a fire hose of comments
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saying, what are you, an idiot? You're just all negative
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stuff. Grow up, get a job, whatever, et cetera, et
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cetera. And then I realized he's no idiot, man. He's
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very, very smart because this content goes right to the
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heart. of most of his electorate because he's talking to
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kid alts. True. People who never, really, they never grew
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up. They want someone to take care of them because
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they either can't or don't want to do it themselves.
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Right. So here's we're all on a kiddie show together.
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It's Blue's Clues and Daddy Abdul will take care of
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you. And think about it, Darren. How many times? How
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many times going back maybe even to the Clintons? did
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people sort of refer to them as like America's mom
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and dad? I don't know if you ever did. I
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know I didn't know. Right. Then it was Michelle and
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Obama. Yeah. Then it was Joey and, and, and Jill.
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Right. Then was it Reese Witherspoon? That's, Oh, you're mama.
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Let a conversation.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes. We all need a mamala. Exactly.
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So this guy is very, very sharp, and he's not
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afraid to look like an idiot in service to grabbing
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votes. And a lot of his people are going to
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say yes because of that goofy cartoon. Well, because he
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seems so likable. Yeah. Be clear, when I was in
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college, I was the one walking around with a T-shirt
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that had a drawing of Bill Clinton's face on it.
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And on the front, it said, if Bill Clinton is
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the answer. And on the back, it said, it must
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be a really stupid question. So, yeah, I've always been
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on the right. Did you get any heat over that
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from your fellow students? At that time, no, because it
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was so early. Well, you're 6'5", though. True. Who's going
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to, you know, really? This is true. And it was
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the, you know, late 80s, early 90s era, so it
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was a little bit of a different time. But even
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then, obviously... The university, which was a Catholic university, DePaul
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University in Chicago, was going completely woke. I was a
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communications major. I'm sure that's not a surprise to anybody.
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He likes to talk. The head of the department was.
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A lesbian who liked to spend way too much of
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the class time talking about her and her partner going
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down to, I think it was Peru, one of those
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kind of Southern American countries to adopt a child. And
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so it's gotten a lot worse from the boots on
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the ground that we've all heard. And of course, these
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kids who are being promised things without understanding the ramifications,
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it's easy. If somebody walks up to you and like,
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hey, do you want X amount of money or do
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you want this prize? Well, yes. Well, yes. Like on
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game shows. Remember when that all broke? Like, Hey, somebody
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won a hundred thousand dollars on a game show. Yay.
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And then they're like, but then I had to pay
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$20,000 in taxes and I can't afford $20,000 in taxes.
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It's because the electorate overall, the, Is not paying attention.
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I mean, since we're on socials, I'm going to run
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a Chris Matthews clip. One, I was interested that he's
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still alive. Me too. I think I saw this one.
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And you know what? He's been gone. What would you
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say? Maybe 10 years by now? Probably. I think so.
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I mean, that would be my guess. Between five and
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10 since the, it was Obama, the shiver up his
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leg. And then that was kind of his. Right. out
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going out the door so it was might even be
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12 years ago or so and and let's he was
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also canceled for some reason he didn't leave voluntarily what
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happened we need to you know we need we need
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that we need that book of knowledge guy right we
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need to directly up uh yeah yeah But here's what
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I was thinking, just to divert just for a moment,
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is I was thinking about this a lot. We need
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a book of knowledge. chick right too often really so
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adam has his with the guy yes voice yes yes
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and you or some other ben or maybe adam somebody
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cooked this up for us and she's got a really
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sexy voice really sexy but she's kind of snarky and
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snotty So we ask her a question. She's like, what
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do you want now? Stop bothering me. Exactly. Wouldn't that
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be fun? That was the other fun thing on Reddit
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was, I looked these guys up. Who are they? And
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they have, they have this show called Planet Rage that
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always has pornographic album art. It's like, What you mean?
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What? Fully clothed redheads and Irish pubs. Oh, that's it.
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Yeah. But this, I mean, this is what the, it
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has to be a leftist. Sorry. Sorry for pointing at
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that because they're the only ones that would look at
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a fully clothed woman and go, that's porn. Of course.
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Yes. No, it's a picture. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a
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pointy chick. And it's all created by Grok. So all
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hail Elon. There you are. But here is Chris Matthews.
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They probably never saw a real woman. That may be
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the problem. That's the answer. And they're like, we don't
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understand what this is. Here's what I think. And I've
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been thinking about this for days now. The DSA has
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done a favor to non DSA Democrats, to regular Democrats
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who are regular members of the party. They've listed what
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they believe in. Their chair made that clear. It's in
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Peggy Noonan's column this week. It's very clear. We're going
14:26
to get rid of ICE, not just ICE. We're going
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to get rid of the border. We're not going to
14:29
have a border anymore. We're not going to effectively control.
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We're going to get rid of the Pentagon. We're going
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to negotiate. Well, what happens when your hostages are your
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former diplomats, like what happened with President Carter? People take
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your diplomats hostages. What do you do then? You need
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an army. You don't like to like to have an
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army, but you do need to have one. All these
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positions can be denied by any regular Democrat. All you
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have to do is go out there and say, thank
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you, DSA, for telling us what you believe in. I
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don't believe in that stuff. And why haven't they? That's
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the question we've we've been asking this on Planet Rage
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for the last five years, which was. Why are the
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moderate normal Democrats and it seems there's less of them
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now, but why have they been acquiescing to this new,
15:23
very radical part? I mean, is it all just money?
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Is it all just fear? I don't understand how you
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can sell your whole soul and country down the toilet.
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They're all commies, Darren. All of them. I mean, the
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ones that say you don't need an army, it's like,
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okay, let's just understand for one minute that if you
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had no army, this country would be taken over within
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seconds. Well, they're in favor of an army, and that's
15:52
the one that's dispersed or dispatched, rather, by the flock
15:57
cameras to say, get that citizen. He dropped a gum
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wrapper. You're much safer. We can see you, but we
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really can't do anything about it. Yeah. That's the army
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they want, the federal, the police state. They're kind of
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getting it. Somebody sitting in a room with 8,000 monitors
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watching everything that's going on and going, well, look, there's
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an armed robbery or there's a sexual assault. What can
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we do? Well, nothing. We don't have police or anybody
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anymore. Yeah. But we have cameras. I mean, we're not
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going to put anybody in jail, but we have cameras.
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Well, they won't put anybody in jail for anything that
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matters, but like being maybe a podcaster saying the wrong
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things, that'll get you locked up. True. They're coming for
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us, man. They're coming for us. Oh, wait, here. We
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agreed. We agreed. Okay, we rang the bell. Woo! By
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the way, I checked. Chris Matthews was bounced for allegations
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of sexual harassment. So there we go. I like Bill
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O'Reilly, which means none of it was probably true. And
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it was, again, a way to get rid of somebody
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that you didn't like. And I love how people are
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very, very... specific about who they believe and who they
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don't. And I'm getting, I get tired of that. It's
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like, if you believe somebody like Bill O'Reilly and I
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do, I also believe Chris Matthews. If he says he
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didn't do it, it's like, where's the proof that there's
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no proof, you know, for guys that have the audience
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that O'Reilly and Matthews had in the past, silencing them
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they tried to do it to rush they tried to
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do it to hannity they tried to do it to
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any conservative voice without fail and matthews probably said something
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the ultra left didn't like so like this what he's
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saying right here oh man the dsa people they don't
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want to hear this well real proof has become kind
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of optional hasn't it And in proof of that, there's
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this story about another. This is really funny. You know
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that Sinatra song, That's Life, right? That's Life. Flying high
17:51
in April, shot down in May, right? Well, this guy
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was flying high in August and shot down a week
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later. His name is Matt Guttman. You heard about this
18:03
one? No, I don't think so. Now, this is classic,
18:08
and you've got to kind of look behind this, because
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I think there's more to this story than they're telling,
18:13
or someone's telling. CBS Evening News scored its best weekly
18:17
audience in months as struggling anchor Tony Dokopil was on
18:21
vacation. And I've seen Tony. He's fantastic. He's pretty damn
18:25
boring, right? Tony's show averaged 4.1 million viewers for the
18:30
week of July 27th. I'm sorry, this is this other
18:33
guy, the replacement guy, Matt Cuttney. He got 4.1 million
18:36
viewers for the week of July 27th, according to Nielsen,
18:38
making the show's best performance in 17 weeks. And the
18:43
first time the Evening O's has topped the 4 million
18:46
viewer mark since late March. Okay. These upbeat numbers came
18:50
in as Matt Guttman filled in for Dokopil, who has
18:53
been struggling to keep the show's ratings up. Right now.
18:56
Hosanna. Guttman's probably feeling real good about that. Isn't he?
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Sure he is. One week later... CBS star Matt Gutman
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is facing a bombshell sexual harassment lawsuit. As his turn
19:10
behind the CBS Evening News desk helped deliver the struggling
19:13
network, a ratings boost. The 48-year-old was sued Friday by
19:16
former ABC News field reporter Samira Saeed, who accused him
19:20
of making inappropriate sexual remarks during two assignments. assignments. When,
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Darren? Years ago. Has to be years ago. You got
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it. Not just years ago, several years ago. You picked
19:30
the mic. I heard it. That was me. I was
19:32
getting gesticulated with joy over this story. So it says
19:36
that she filed a lawsuit in LA Superior Court naming
19:39
Gutman, ABC News, and the parent company, the Walt Disney
19:42
Company, as... defendants right now. Do you think, isn't the
19:45
timing of this suit rather strange? Yeah, you waited until
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you saw him on TV and went, huh? Yeah. Somebody
19:53
doesn't want him there. So let's do this. This is
19:56
the playbook. The company meet.
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Yeah, I ate what there was at the one that
20:01
all went after was the concerted effort going after the
20:07
advertisers of Limbaugh. That's really where it started with like
20:13
Limbaugh and Fox News. Yes. And then it kind of
20:16
just steamrolled from there because they realized people had. zero
20:21
spine and at any hint of a, scandal at all
20:27
they would pull their advertising and i was having a
20:30
conversation with serjean the russian handler the other day about
20:33
youtube videos and it's a very similar thing he's like
20:37
you can't easily make money on youtube if you're doing
20:43
a show like ours Like no agenda, like planet rage,
20:47
like that Larry. You can't make money because advertisers run
20:51
away where you're making money are. Oh, let's talk about
20:56
Lego or let's talk about something so vanilla that there
21:00
can never be any controversy. That's where the advertisers want
21:03
to put their money because of this. Sure. Yeah. Yeah.
21:07
So somehow Gene is making money by putting like very
21:10
boring space video games up there. And he's like, thanks
21:13
for the warning. But it's great. I mean, if you
21:17
can make money doing it, that's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's
21:19
great. But it's because the hotter content doesn't make money.
21:23
And this does not surprise me, except the guy, the
21:25
guy's name. It's funny because you say Gutman. The first
21:27
thing I think is Gutfeld. And I'm like, is it?
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No, no. The other guy. Gutman. Now, the interesting thing
21:32
is, too, I think whoever this woman's attorneys are to
21:36
file this now, I think they're they're not that sharp
21:38
because if I was. Those guys, I would wait until
21:42
Gutman, who looks like he was lining up to replace
21:46
Dopukle, whatever his name is, wait until he's really entrenched
21:50
and maybe capping five million views a night. Then you
21:54
sue. Now CBS is going to give you a lot
21:57
more go-away money with a guy like that sitting in
22:00
place. Is it about the money or is it about
22:04
getting rid of the guy? Well, it could be both.
22:07
Yeah. Yeah. Nobody said people on the left are all
22:11
that smart. No, no. This is just a quick drop
22:15
from a Chelsea handler, which made me. Did you see
22:19
this one? Oh, yeah. We're going to get Todd Blanche.
22:22
He's going to be confirmed. And what's he's going to
22:25
overturn Roe v. Wade. We're. What? He's going to overturn
22:29
Roe v. Wade. Wait a minute. Didn't that happen already?
22:31
Yes. Years ago. Supreme Court. We're all sitting around all
22:36
these men who have these powerful platforms are sitting around
22:39
watching this happen to women, to communities that you could
22:43
instead be supporting. You don't have to like turn over
22:46
a whole new leaf. It's just about being a decent
22:49
human being. And this again was with Kara Swisher. Yes.
22:54
And she says, right. Right. So is Karis Wisher ignorant
22:58
of the fact that Roe v. Wade was already thrown
23:01
down by the Supreme Court? But it's like, what are
23:04
these people on the news for? This is why. You
23:08
cannot believe anything you see on any news program. It
23:12
doesn't matter what network it's on or what podcast it's
23:15
on. Always double check your work, kids, because the anchors
23:20
very rarely are going to push back. If Kara Swisher
23:25
had any. idea of what was going on or journalistic
23:30
credibility. She'd be like, well, what do you mean overturn
23:31
Roe v. Wade? How's he going to do that? The
23:33
Supreme court did that. But you wouldn't do that because
23:36
Chelsea's her buddy, right? It's like, you can't know that
23:39
would be, that would be inconvenient. Yeah. Yeah. But it's
23:43
the socialist commie way. You just will change words. Yes,
23:47
it is. People are like, we're tired of hearing about
23:49
commies. You know what? We are too. Yeah. But this
23:52
is what is dominating the news. This is... AOC, since
23:59
we're on the socialist, let's run through the socialist clips.
24:02
Let's do that. Yeah. And I have a local city
24:06
councilman that has this saying, woke one was crazy. Woke
24:14
one was crazy. You were woke one, AOC. And what
24:22
part was crazy then? Well, she was pretty much the,
24:25
on the forefront of, uh, the original woke push. Yeah,
24:31
crazy. One was crazy. And I think that what's important
24:37
is. And the guy she's talking to on ABC says
24:40
that's true. Did you hear ABC when this was all
24:43
going on saying all these things AOC and her like
24:46
are saying are they're crazy. So why is he agreeing
24:48
with her now? Because again. They really don't know what's
24:52
going on. They are just bobbing their heads. Sure. Going
24:59
along. I mean, if this guy was sharp, he would
25:02
have said, well, was your prediction that we'd all be
25:04
dead in eight years from climate change? Was that part
25:07
of woke one or is that still stand AOC? Is
25:10
the world ending? Yes, that's what she said. Waters rising.
25:15
We have to go all green, even though we don't
25:17
have enough electricity. We all should have cars that we
25:20
won't be able to charge. Or, you know, when storms
25:23
go through like they have in my home state of
25:27
Illinois. Well, the power has been down for so many.
25:31
Like every storm seems to be taking down. Yeah. About
25:34
a quarter million customers, according to just the local Chicago
25:39
area. That's not even outside of the Chicago metropolitan area.
25:45
are out of power. It's like, but well, you don't
25:47
want a gas car, do you? No. No. Just take
25:50
our bikes. Yes. We have to assess what expanded it
25:54
is. Was it? I mean, did the movement go too
25:55
far with some of those positions? I mean, you briefly
25:57
supported the idea of defunding the police. Well, I think
26:02
that I also want to ask you, because maybe I
26:06
missed something. When did AOC back away from defunding the
26:11
police? He's like, you at one point... We're backing defunding
26:16
the police. Did AOC ever come back out and say,
26:19
no, no, I think the police need money? I don't
26:21
remember seeing that, but I might have missed it. I
26:23
challenge you to find that clip, Darren, and I'll pay
26:25
you handsomely if you can. But if you can't, you
26:27
owe me. Right. No, thank you. That's not a big
26:29
back. All right. During this time, and especially during COVID,
26:35
there was a huge opening of the Overton window. We
26:38
were shut down. There were some of the highest unemployment
26:40
rates that we have seen because. I mean, we were
26:42
shut down. Why, AOC? Joey? No. Joey. Of those shutdowns.
26:48
Yeah. And I think that. The doors were really open
26:52
in trying to entertain any and every policy that was
26:56
going to get us to a better place. And I
26:59
actually think that the discussions that were had in that
27:03
time were quite fruitful. I think that when we talk
27:07
about crime today, it's fundamentally different than the way that
27:10
we talked about crime in bringing crime down, right? And
27:14
I think that we all share in the goals of
27:17
having as low a crime rate as possible. And during
27:21
lockdown, of course, rhetoric in that time is not rhetoric
27:25
that we would use today. And I'm grateful that these
27:27
candidates have the opportunity to present who they are to
27:31
their electorate and what they're campaigning on in this moment.
27:34
Yeah, we just saw one of them singing the blues
27:37
clues or something. And so rhetoric for her is a
27:40
synonym for lies. So is that what she means by
27:42
that rhetoric? Right. I think so. And she's a DSC.
27:47
I mean, she is not a regular Democrat. She has
27:50
said that she is part of the Democrat socialist movement.
27:54
And they want to, according to their co-chair, Mm hmm.
27:59
Abolish police, abolish prisons, abolish the presidency, abolish the Supreme
28:04
Court. So AOC will tell you, well, we all want
28:09
crime to go down. We all have that same goal.
28:13
And she will tell you that while also understanding that
28:17
she believes and her group believes that Well, the way
28:20
to do this is to never incarcerate anybody. And I
28:25
think that's just insanity. Yeah, but maybe it holds water,
28:30
Darren, because she did say, she said, it's a direct
28:33
quote, crime is fundamentally different now. Right, than it was.
28:38
But he didn't ask her how. Right. How would that
28:42
be? AOC, but details don't matter. Yes. How, when, what,
28:47
where, and why that's what a story should be. If
28:49
you're a journalist, you're a journalist. And yeah, they don't
28:53
ask. And you're like, well, why don't you ask? Why
28:56
do you just keep bobbing your head and saying, oh,
28:58
okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they're there to promote. Not
29:01
to question, really. Well, this is the issue. You've also
29:06
got the clip here, and I think I have the
29:08
close to the same one. Your clip number one kind
29:11
of fits right in, I think, with the crime. Yeah.
29:15
You're going to love Emily Gallagher. Yes. What is crime?
29:19
That's a question, isn't it? Yeah, it is. I like
29:22
that. Just like AOC. What is crime? Really? I mean,
29:25
you know, you've got to have different levels. You do.
29:29
Most of what we saw were crimes of poverty. People
29:32
who were stealing things like toothpaste. People who were stealing
29:35
things like, you know, soap. And that means if you're
29:39
stealing those things, you need them. And we are choosing
29:43
to protect... billion dollar companies like CVS and Walgreens over
29:49
the people who are struggling to get by. So I
29:53
would say that the true crime is that there is
29:57
such incredible wealth
30:00
disparity in this city that there are people who can
30:04
be thrown in jail simply for having a biological need
30:07
and so one of the things that i'm finding for
30:10
it and i will ask is it really a biological
30:14
need to have soap humans existed for a long time
30:17
on this planet when soap was not a thing I
30:20
think if we wanted to, we could check with both
30:23
CVS and Walgreens and ask just how the soap pilfering,
30:27
how severe a problem that is. And I'll guarantee you
30:30
they'll say, not very. No, no. I'm sure they, you
30:33
know, for people that will, they grab a bunch of
30:35
things, usually things that they can resell. Yeah. Yeah. And
30:39
a much lower price. It's the perfect way to run
30:42
a store. If you can go steal everything from somebody
30:45
else, then sell it out of the trunk of your
30:47
car. Yeah. But yeah, well, why doesn't this New York
30:52
assembly person, Emily Gallagher, at her office, wherever it is,
30:58
I don't know which borough she's out of, but. Why
31:00
aren't you giving away bars of soap? Good question. Or
31:05
opening up the bathrooms to the public. Come use ours.
31:07
Wash up here. Exactly. But you would think if it
31:11
really is just things like soap that you could get
31:15
one of these companies, it would be great. Sponsored by...
31:18
You know, Dove or Dial or whoever. Irish Spring. I
31:23
get sent to the Irish. But she just lies because
31:26
there are countless homeless shelters and food banks and so
31:29
forth that are giving that stuff away right now. Okay.
31:34
So she's just lying. Well, the... CVS is in the
31:38
Walgreens that have left these areas have been pretty clear
31:42
about the amount of money they are losing to theft.
31:47
And it's not a small amount. And it is certainly
31:49
not just soap and toothpaste. No, but, you know, you
31:53
expect these companies when she says we're protecting these companies.
31:59
You mean we are enforcing the laws that people don't
32:03
steal? Or do you mean that we're not forcing them
32:07
at gunpoint to remain open in areas where they cannot
32:12
make a profit due to the constant. shoplifting armed robberies.
32:19
And there have been multiple stories of these things, multiple
32:22
stores having these problems. Sure. And the communities then go,
32:28
well, what do you mean that's racist that you're leaving?
32:30
Well, it's like, no, the one, the employees in the
32:34
store are in danger. Yeah. because of the amount of
32:37
crime in your area and they're being robbed so much
32:41
There was one, I think it was in New York,
32:44
one of these auto zone or one of these other
32:47
auto parts stores that was like completely looted twice within
32:51
a 24 hour period. That's by hungry people. You should
32:54
know because everybody drinks motor oil. Everyone. Right. They're just,
32:58
that's a thing of necessity. You can't do anything about
33:01
it. It's like. If your whole store, if you haven't
33:05
seen the videos, you're not looking at all. When you
33:09
see these things happen where a crowd of 20 to
33:14
50, maybe more people all go in at the same
33:18
time and just take whatever they want and run out.
33:21
Mm hmm. The store is fairly empty by the time
33:24
that is done. It's not somebody going in and grabbing
33:29
a loaf of bread or a quarter motor oil or
33:31
whatever. It's taking everything that they can. And you expect
33:36
the stores to stay open. How? And so one of
33:42
the things that I'm fighting for at the state level
33:44
is to make sure we pass things like treatment, not
33:46
jail, and that we hold the line. Oh, there you
33:49
go. Treatment, not jail. Treatment, not jail. Can't put them
33:52
in, can't incarcerate them. No, we're going to treat them.
33:56
Yeah. Like, oh, that's going to take care of it.
33:59
It's like, oh, we're not going to send cops. Now
34:01
we're going to send social workers and shrinks. Exactly. They're
34:06
going to take care of everything until they start getting
34:08
shot at. Then they run. On the incredible criminal justice
34:12
reforms that we have done over the last 10 and
34:15
20 years that are constantly being threatened by right wing
34:20
media who are looking to fear monger about people who
34:24
are actually just in absolute dire straits. Yeah, it's fear-mongering.
34:29
Reporting on crimes is fear-mongering. Totally. Yes. Just take that
34:33
beating and shut up. Change the wording. Change the language.
34:40
No, you're fear mongering. You can't tell that people looted
34:43
this store and, you know, physically assaulted the cashiers and
34:47
bloodied them. No, no, that's that's fear mongering, telling people
34:51
the truth of what's going on. This concept of having
34:55
no punishment for crimes. It makes zero sense when you
35:02
understand that there are some human beings who are just
35:04
going to commit crimes. You're not going to stop them.
35:07
Yeah. There's nothing you can do. I don't know what
35:10
it is in their DNA, but you aren't going to
35:13
stop them. And when you go, well, the worst thing
35:16
that you could possibly do. And you and I discussed
35:20
this a few years ago in Chirac here when the
35:25
question of why carjackings were going through the roof and
35:30
there was an assemblyman here in Chicago. who put out
35:34
a statement like this is all because of these violent
35:38
video games like grand theft auto yes yes i recall
35:43
that and i'm like no no it's not it's because
35:46
uh preckwinkle periwinkle whatever what's their name preckwinkle i think
35:50
that uh they changed the law that if you were
35:53
under the age of 18 you You were not going
35:57
to be tried as an adult for carjacking. And they
36:02
put that out there. And then what happened? Car jackings
36:07
went way up by people under the age of 18.
36:10
And they were surprised. It's like taking away the punishment
36:14
of, had an effect and they were like amazed that
36:19
taking away the punishment was having that kind of an
36:22
effect it's like this is not something that you need
36:25
to go to school for this is not something you
36:28
need a psychological degree for this is nothing you need
36:32
except common sense that if people feel like they can
36:36
get away from with bad behavior and have no consequences
36:42
they are much more likely to do so but what
36:46
they would answer you with darren is those those teenage
36:49
carjackers were stealing those cars because they were hungry they
36:53
had they had a necessity they needed some wheels baby
36:57
Absolutely. Got to get some wheels so I can drive
36:59
it through the front of a supermarket and clean that
37:02
out. Go someplace else. Right. They're like, how dare you
37:05
have a car when this poor kid here doesn't have
37:07
one? Exactly. You should let them use your car, right?
37:11
Yes. I mean, speaking of Chirac, this is our ex-Mayor
37:14
Rahm Emanuel, who I think... has some aspirations to throw
37:20
his hat in the ring to be the democratic presidential
37:22
nominee. Oh yeah. I'd love to see him against a
37:25
new scum captain hair gel. That'd be a funny battle.
37:28
Yeah, it would. And at least a Rahm Emanuel though.
37:31
Um, You know, if this is that kind of a
37:34
matchup, Emmanuel, according to what I'm about to play, is
37:38
positioning himself as more of the moderate, which I don't
37:43
know if that's going along with how he's always governed.
37:47
But. I mean, if you're going up against the new
37:50
scum, then you have to take a step to the
37:53
center. I think B, I want to be very clear.
37:56
If you control the border. You send a signal that
38:01
people who break the law don't get rewarded. And I'm
38:04
so angry at my party, not only losing control of
38:08
the border, but in the 2020 debate, raising your hand
38:11
and saying, I'm going to give health care to people
38:13
that cross illegally. Forget the immigration policy, the value system.
38:19
You have American families suffocating under healthcare costs Not everybody
38:25
universally covered, but we're significantly well on our way there.
38:30
And you're talking about free health care to having crossed
38:32
the border illegally? At every level that was foolish by
38:37
the party. Yeah, let me let me play the part
38:41
of your typical journalist. What do you make of that,
38:45
Larry? Well, what I make is he used an interesting
38:49
phrase when he said people across the border illegally are
38:53
not going to be rewarded. Well, that's pretty goddamn weak,
38:57
Rom. The correct response to that question is they're going
39:03
to be deported. And were prosecuted because they've committed a
39:07
crime, but saying they're not going to be rewarded, that
39:09
kind of puts it in a different light, doesn't it?
39:12
I think it does. A little bit. And all these
39:14
guys, this is the standard play that they all do,
39:17
whether it's Joey, I'm a moderate, I'm a moderate, until
39:20
they get into office, then that goes out the window.
39:25
It's easy to claim you're a minor. Yeah, of course.
39:28
But this is how you get elected. And that's usually
39:30
the way it is. I'm still I don't understand where
39:33
are the where are the crossovers? Where are the people
39:37
that are willing to put in the time? You're a
39:40
tried and true conservative and you just pretend to be
39:43
a liberal. And you run in New York or Detroit
39:46
or wherever it is. You get elected and then go,
39:48
surprise! Yeah, where are those guys? That's a great question.
39:52
See, this is where we need Minerva or Sybil or
39:54
whatever that chick. We need that girl. I can't believe
39:57
it hasn't happened. That is the...
40:00
you know, the Manchurian candidate kind of a concept, like
40:02
sell something and get to where you need to be.
40:06
And then just be like, well, I'm not going to
40:08
really vote the way you think I am. Hmm. And
40:11
just a quick clip here, just to show that we
40:14
do cover every now and then things that happen outside
40:16
of the United States. These are our buddies from Grimerica.
40:22
Great show. Yes. Talking about what I'm guessing from what
40:27
I understood, from what I've heard, a new Canadian law.
40:32
About hate speech. Interviews that are motivated by bias against
40:37
victims, blah, blah, blah, which are not a criminal offense.
40:42
For example, disrespectful, disrespectful, disrespectful. It's pretty subjective. Disrespectful, discriminatory,
40:50
or hostile speech. Wow. I hate. I know. Disrespectful. Wow.
40:57
Who gets to decide? Well, we know who gets to
41:00
decide. Whoever is in charge of the government at that
41:03
time. I think just the normal RCMP climbs down off
41:07
of his Palomino and says, that wasn't very respectful. You're
41:10
going to jail. To who? But it gets better. A
41:13
hate bias motivated incident may be determined to be a
41:15
hate bias motivated crime upon further investigation. Yeah, we can
41:20
look for your hate bias. Wow. Game. Wow. By Hasbro.
41:27
There's a little spinner. There's a spinner arrow there on
41:29
that game. I hope. Yes. Well, there should be it
41:32
at the very least. Yes. Play. It's a party game.
41:35
Yeah. Incident example. An individual creates a social media post
41:39
promoting the boycott of companies that support the The 2SLGBTQI
41:45
plus community. Whoa. Yeah. So boycotting, you know, an LGBTQ
41:53
plus community event or organization, just boycotting them. Is now
42:01
going to be a crime in Canada? Congratulations, Canadians. Yeah,
42:06
well, they could shrink the penal code very simply by
42:10
just saying, wrong think will be prosecuted, because that's what
42:12
they're talking about. It's very scary. Very. I'd be a
42:17
bias crime. Wow. But it's okay the other way, though.
42:22
This is the crazy, infuriating thing. I feel like we're
42:25
living in a dream. But they can be completely hateful
42:28
to Pierre, Polyev, all the conservatives, anything normal. They can
42:34
be super hateful and biased against that, but that's going
42:38
to be okay. So it's hate one way. One way
42:41
hate. Yeah. What is... When you're putting this in to
42:48
the legal code, which is, well, it's the hate bias
42:52
to do this to an LGBTQ, but it's not to
42:55
do the same thing to a straight organization, straight person,
42:59
whatever. It's like, well, that's not... That's not an honorable
43:04
thing. Well, no. And, you know, in the United States,
43:08
the first time any government agency proclaimed anybody a protected
43:13
class, that was just a basically a step upwards in
43:17
racism. Because if you're protected and the other class isn't,
43:20
well, they're kind of below you, aren't they? Yes, they
43:23
are. And that is the... The overall viewpoint that people
43:29
are bringing. I know this is a little out of
43:33
left field, but this is in honor of JCD, who
43:37
I was getting kind of sad. We haven't had any
43:41
whatever girls on the show. And this kind of goes
43:44
in with that. It's what, what, what girls, what, whatever
43:48
girls, there's a, whatever podcast. Okay. Which do. And then
43:52
there's a bunch of women that are on there who,
43:54
uh, you know, are like only fans, models, things like
43:58
that. And this is a, uh, two parter with the
44:02
same woman, uh, who is a young black woman, and
44:05
they're discussing what is and isn't racist, which goes right
44:09
along with what the Grimerica boys were just saying. As
44:13
a black person, even if I was racist towards a
44:16
white person, it doesn't have the same effect as if
44:18
a white person were racist towards me. That's what I
44:21
meant. The jail system, more black people go to jail
44:24
than white people, you know. But let me ask you
44:27
this. A black person walks up to a white person,
44:30
not aggravated, just punches them in the face because that
44:32
person is white. Is that racism? Yes. I don't think
44:35
it's racism. What? Wow. Maybe prejudice. I've heard a black.
44:39
Right. Maybe it's prejudice. If you see a white person
44:43
and you just hit them with a brick, I mean,
44:46
that's not really racist. That's just having prejudice. You see
44:49
the difference? No. I don't either. I don't either. Black
44:53
man come up to me on a train. He spit
44:56
in my face and he called me white. That I
44:59
should myself. I think that's racist. Wait, that happened? Yes,
45:05
that actually happened in New York. Bro, she could have
45:08
been Irina Zeru. Oh, who's Ukrainian. Who's Ukrainian, right? Yes.
45:13
In her instance, was that an act of racism that
45:15
she experienced? If you want to call that racism, then
45:18
sure. I just don't. Not what I call it. I
45:22
probably call it racism. Do you call it racism? And
45:25
he specifically said something about your. Yes. Maybe prejudice. What?
45:30
So again. This young black female sitting right across next
45:35
to whatever she was with a young white female Ukrainian
45:39
girl who had somebody come up on a train or
45:41
something and spit in her face and call her a
45:44
white bitch. Is that racist? Well, no, I don't. I
45:48
don't really think that's racist. How? Hmm. How? Well, it's
45:53
because only white racism matters, of course. Can black people
45:56
be racist towards other minority groups? No. So can a
46:00
black person be racist towards an Asian person? Why don't
46:03
you want to say that? You can just admit it.
46:06
No, because can black people be racist towards Asians? Maybe.
46:10
Maybe. Wait, can black people be racist towards Latinos? Why
46:15
minority on minority? It just doesn't mean anything. I don't
46:19
know. I'd explain it. It's just OK. I'm with the
46:22
woman that said what minority on minority. It doesn't mean
46:26
anything. Hmm. I'm trying to wrap my brain around that,
46:33
that it only matters. If it is a white person
46:39
against any other minority, that's the only racism that this
46:45
woman believes there is. Anybody that is not white, that
46:50
is actively hostile, actively assaulting, actively hating people, another person
46:58
just because of the color of their skin because of
47:01
their ethnicity well that's not racism and it's not It's
47:07
very... This is so... And I understand why KCD brought
47:11
a lot of these. One, they bring a little levity,
47:14
but they also scare the hell out of you when
47:17
you realize these women are not alone in the way
47:21
they think. No. No. I don't know. What do you
47:24
mean by it doesn't mean anything? Like... So it's only
47:28
bad when white people do something. Because that's the main
47:30
core, though. First of all, I am not racist. It
47:33
is a little bit racist to say that white people
47:36
or other minorities can't face racism from black people. I'm
47:39
just saying that it doesn't have the same effect. And
47:42
if it doesn't have the same effect, it kind of
47:43
just doesn't matter. Whoa, that's crazy. That's crazy. Bro, she's
47:47
actually racist. No, she's racist. Yes. Hmm. Wow. Yeah, I
47:51
mean, okay. Wow. Again, the Katerina Kerrisko, I'm bad with
47:57
the names, but the woman. Saratsuzka from Charlotte. Charlotte, yes.
48:01
She was killed dead because of the color of her
48:05
skin. What do you mean it doesn't have the same
48:09
color? effect if it goes the other way that's just
48:12
insanity that's just well maybe she missed that story it's
48:16
indoctrination 101 she probably watches blues clues with el say
48:23
Right? I don't know. Get that mail-in ballot. That's all
48:26
that matters. How many ballots did he have, though? It
48:28
should have been like a thousand mail-in ballots. Like, fill
48:30
it out for your friends. Just one. He's not that
48:33
special. If he was special like me in L.A., it's
48:36
gotten eight. I only needed two. And if you would
48:39
have sent those in with the wrong votes, they would
48:43
have come for you. Don't worry. Definitely. Now, if you
48:46
would have put those all and voted Democrat, then they
48:48
might have just... Probably not. Yeah. They didn't notice that.
48:52
It was just a rounding error. Yeah. Where do you
48:56
want to go next? Well, well, well, since we were
48:59
going briefly offshore or over the border, there's a couple
49:05
of funny stories here from the UK about apparently they've
49:09
been suffering through some wildfires. Darren. Interesting. Like Canada and
49:15
the United States. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and I have
49:19
some experience of those having lived in L.A. as long
49:21
as I did. And usually when they used to begin,
49:24
when I first got to L.A., there's always been fires
49:26
in Los Angeles, even before there were people there. That's
49:29
just very dry place. but they would call it what
49:33
it was back in the day, and most of them
49:36
were arson, including the most famous one of all now,
49:40
which, of course, is the Pacific Palisades conflagration, which was
49:44
set by some creep. It didn't just happen. And even
49:49
Karen Bass... who was partying in Ghana as the city
49:53
burned, she doesn't want to mention that because that sort
49:57
of kind of undercuts the
50:00
I'm a change position, doesn't it? Yes, it does. Yes.
50:04
I mean, no agenda pointed out they had hands on
50:08
a book from the 1800s, which pointed out the amount
50:12
of wildfires going on even then. Long before we had
50:15
electric lines and cell towers and all. Yes. Yes. Absolutely.
50:20
So they've been raging in the UK, and I have
50:22
two clips. And one is, it's like the yin and
50:25
the yang. In the political mindset. And the first one
50:28
is some very happy, giggly newsreader chick talking about she
50:32
got in the course of one evening, three emergency, emergency
50:37
cell phone warnings from the British government, as she calls
50:42
them, Annie Burnham. and they woke her up because she
50:47
had to get up and do the show the next
50:48
day. She wasn't happy about that, but she's really not
50:51
that upset. Just listen to what she says. Anyway, I
50:53
got an alert from Andy Burnham and the government three
50:57
times, just to be clear, the 7 o'clock-ish one. Then
51:02
I got it again at about... 10 and then again
51:05
at 10 to 11 and I'd gone to bed early
51:07
because I need to get up and I just am
51:10
I not doing it right is there a way of
51:12
dismissing it you're viewing it or that's what I thought
51:14
they know I just went oh wildfires and put it
51:16
down anyway. The whole thing about this is Andy Burnham
51:20
is trying to do something. I get that. I get
51:22
that. He has actually banned his bezel of barbecues, as
51:25
we know. Stop. He's appointed a prime minister, and he's
51:27
pledged to buy. Okay. Did you hear what he's done,
51:31
what Burnham's done? He's banned, banned barbecues. Well, it sounds
51:36
like California. Yeah. Yeah, because when in doubt, just ban
51:40
something. That's always the fix. Ban it. Ban anything. Just
51:43
ban something. Yeah, California, my buddy, when he lived in,
51:47
I think he's still in the Bay Area. Oh, no,
51:49
you can't have a fire, but you can't put that
51:51
in your fire. It doesn't matter how cold it is
51:53
outside. You can't have you putting that horrible smoke into
51:57
the air, which then, of course, Went down the line
52:00
as well, where the stories with New York and like,
52:04
oh, pizza ovens. No, no, we can't have you doing
52:07
that. It's all sorts of we will control you. Yeah.
52:12
Yeah. And so, you know, at the top of her
52:15
blathering, she said, you know, am I doing something wrong?
52:19
Yes, you are. You have the wrong attitude, lady. Okay.
52:22
You should be pissed at Burnham. So I think there's
52:24
a little more in this clip. Yes. Yeah. And then
52:27
we can get to number five, the truth about wildfires.
52:31
Actually, man dispensable barbecues, as we know. He's appointed a
52:34
fire minister, and he's pledged to buy European-style fighting aircraft.
52:38
That's all fine. He should be doing something. How much
52:41
is he spending on... aircraft to fight fighters. Right. Doesn't
52:45
mention that. But it's all fine because he's doing stuff.
52:48
He's banning stuff. We're buying planes. Because planes are cheap.
52:53
Planes are very cheap, very cheap. So then from the
52:56
same British station, I guess this is a later telecast,
53:00
you get a very different and I think more realistic
53:04
and truthful appraisal of the wildfire situation in England. I
53:09
don't think anyone is saying that wildfires and fires in
53:12
general aren't serious. I guess the question is, was the
53:17
alert system the right tool by which to tell people
53:22
about the danger? I think it undermines the importance of
53:27
the emergency system. If you've got something like a war
53:30
or an earthquake or, you know, some things that are
53:34
just so existentially threatening that everybody needs to be told
53:38
immediately at that level, that's a high state alert for
53:41
everyone that's in emergency. Yeah. Whilst it is very serious
53:45
that we've got wildfires, it runs the risk of actually
53:48
undermining people taking it seriously. It's a bit like a
53:52
nanny intervention. We want to be seen to be doing
53:55
something. There are arsonists. The majority of fires started from
53:58
other things that we know broken bottles and others. But
54:01
why are we not having a discussion about what's happened
54:04
with rewilding, about the pressures that have been put on
54:07
farming, not to clear land, not to clear fallen wood,
54:11
not to clear areas where peat and grass and where
54:14
they've been prevented from allowing sheep to graze and others
54:17
and deer. And that has created a situation where people
54:20
want to use the term tinderbox, where things are much
54:24
more susceptible to catching fry up. There you have it.
54:29
This sounds exactly like the coverage Adam and John had
54:34
on the American wildfire. Same exact things. They're stopping the
54:38
clearing of brush. They're stopping all these things in the
54:43
usually under the guise of. global warming and then the
54:47
end result is the whole place burns down and then
54:49
they want to blame yes yes And what this guy
54:54
alluded to as well, and the first one, the woman
54:56
didn't quite understand, was kind of a little phrase that
54:59
I remember a guy telling me years ago when I
55:01
was working for a big company. And there are a
55:04
lot of people, anybody working for corporate America knows this.
55:08
There's so many people out there who are always kind
55:10
of pretending to be busy, busy, busy. Oh, I'm so
55:12
busy. I'm doing this, blah, blah, blah, blah. And this
55:15
guy said, you know... You should never confuse activity with
55:19
achievement. Yeah. You know, and all these bureaucrats and clowns,
55:24
they just claim, I'm so busy. I'm doing this. I'm
55:26
banning barbecues. I'm buying planes. So I'm really busy. But
55:30
you're not getting the job done, are you? But that's
55:32
how it works. Well, so they can list that and
55:35
then the... The mainstream media will be, well, they're really
55:39
trying hard. They're trying to. Yes. Yes. Look how busy
55:42
they are. Do X, Y, and Z while they ignore
55:44
again, the who, why, what, when, and how, who, why,
55:48
what, where, and how, which would make the story. They
55:52
don't want to really know how the. fires are starting
55:56
no there are arsonists yeah believe that or not people
55:59
are starting fires a lot of times intentionally a lot
56:03
of times accidentally You know, it's like, but it's humans.
56:08
And if you, uh, Do not properly treat the things
56:14
which can then lead to a buildup. Like in California,
56:20
a bunch of it was, well, we're not clearing the
56:22
brush underneath the power lines. So when there is a
56:24
problem where a power line comes down, well, of course,
56:28
there's something to light. And then it lights a lot.
56:31
Yeah. Fire. Yeah. In the meantime, leave the reservoirs empty
56:35
because, you know, we'll just handle it with, I don't
56:37
know, spray wax or something. Well, yeah. Is LA, I'm
56:40
wondering, Jack, has LA been rebuilt yet now? I mean,
56:43
I know they said this was all going to be
56:45
really quick. And no, no, almost nothing has been rebuilt.
56:49
Yeah. As was predicted. Yeah. Yes, Carolla did. He was
56:55
podcasting, I should say, from a hotel room. The fire
57:00
wasn't even out yet. And he said, I guarantee you,
57:03
In a year and a half, nothing, nothing will have
57:05
been rebuilt. It's all going to be hung up and
57:07
permitting because they don't want this like this anymore. They
57:11
want low-income housing in Malibu. And they're just going to
57:14
wait the property owners out until they say, all right,
57:17
I'll sell it at a loss. This is a battle
57:19
I cannot win. And he's right. It's a crazy system.
57:24
Yeah. How about the Trump plane swap? Was that a
57:27
good one? Did you enjoy? I love that. You got
57:30
something with this, don't you? Yeah, I've got a bunch.
57:32
Because this was a very entertaining story. Yeah. The United
57:38
States and the Iranian-backed Houthis carried out separate attacks on
57:41
shipping vessels near the Strait of Hormuz. Before the war
57:45
began, about 130 ships per day moved through that waterway.
57:50
According to Reuters, only eight ships traversed the strait within
57:54
the past week, marking a new low. Joining me now,
57:58
CBS News contributor H.R. McMaster. He was one of for
58:01
national security advisors to President Trump during his first administration.
58:06
HR, we'll get to the Strait of Hormuz in a
58:08
second, but I've got to ask you about the Air
58:11
Force One misdirection story. You've flown on Air Force One
58:14
many times, you have a keen understanding of national security
58:17
threats flying in and out of sensitive areas of the
58:20
world. How do you evaluate the evasive maneuvers the Secret
58:23
Service ordered the president to take and those who flew
58:27
with the president and those who were stuck on the
58:30
decoy Air Force One? Yeah. Hey, Major. Well, you know,
58:35
it seemed like the system worked to me in terms
58:36
of protecting the president. You know, I mean, there was
58:39
a clear connection between the Secret Service and the intelligence
58:43
agencies that gave the president, I'm sure, the heads up
58:46
or Secret Service the heads up. It's clear that the
58:49
Iranians are trying to kill them. I mean, this isn't
58:53
a secret that they've tried to get others to kill
58:56
them in the past. They've released the RGC, released a
59:01
video, a pattern of life video on the First Lady
59:05
and the President's son, Barron. So... So I think that
59:09
the system worked in this case in terms of the
59:11
handoff. And I think we just have to remain vigilant
59:15
because Iran does have a pretty extensive terrorist network, sleeper
59:19
zone network, especially in Europe, where they've conducted many assassinations
59:23
over the years, Major. So I think the concern was
59:26
the location that he was in Europe. Yeah, and rightfully
59:30
so. I mean, there's an active threat. Yeah. That's the
59:34
major Garrett and... So, and that was a fairly straightforward
59:40
process. But then you have MSNBC. Well, MSNOW. I just
59:44
want to say MSNBC. You've got to get a shock
59:46
collar on that one. One of the officials said another
59:50
official called the reports of threats against Trump's life is
59:52
really derived, not U.S. generated and viewed as low confidence.
59:57
I wanted to talk to you about this because in
59:59
particular.
1:00:00
I mean, we're both quite familiar with the vernacular of
1:00:02
government. What do you make of that report? What do
1:00:05
you make of that, Larry? There you go. It's just
1:00:07
giving you the what do you make of that? And
1:00:10
this was very low, very low. Right. Because the president
1:00:15
is going to hop into a catering van or whatever
1:00:19
it was on a low level. chance of a threat.
1:00:23
And kind of what it means about this threat as
1:00:26
far as you can suss out. Well, it does seem
1:00:29
to be consistent with the view of the CIA with
1:00:33
respect to Israeli intelligence of late. You might remember there
1:00:37
was reporting that Mr. Ratcliffe was not convinced that the
1:00:40
Israeli intelligence was correct, that you could decapitate the Iranian
1:00:44
regime with a strike on Khamenei and cause regime change.
1:00:47
And he kind of called it, he kind of called
1:00:50
of BS there in the situation room. So this is,
1:00:52
I think, of a piece of his natural skepticism and
1:00:55
the skepticism of the professional intelligence analysts at the CIA.
1:00:58
Obviously, you and I haven't seen that, so we're in
1:01:00
no position to judge it. But again, I don't begrudge
1:01:02
the secrets. Oh, no, but the MSNLB, they're always going
1:01:05
to judge. It doesn't matter if they've seen any documentation
1:01:09
whatsoever. They're going to judge. That's their job. That's their
1:01:12
job. They're judges. Yeah, yeah. Obviously, you and I haven't
1:01:15
seen that, so we're in no position to judge it.
1:01:16
But again, I don't begrudge the Secret Service for being
1:01:20
overly cautious and not being willing to take a risk,
1:01:24
even if there wasn't unanimity about the veracity of the
1:01:28
intelligence. It's true. What's also true is a president and
1:01:31
his close advisors can go back to the Secret Service
1:01:34
and say, I understand the threat, but I need a
1:01:36
different plan. That's what President Clinton did. That's clearly not
1:01:39
what happened here. Let's talk about where we are in
1:01:42
this war. And I want to go. Wait a minute,
1:01:45
Peppermint Patty. I think you're wrong about the Clinton. Want
1:01:49
to hear this one more time? Yeah, let's hear that
1:01:51
again. It's true. What's also true is a president and
1:01:54
his close advisors can go back to the Secret Service
1:01:57
and say, I understand the threat, but I need a
1:01:59
different plan. That's what President Clinton did. That's clearly not
1:02:02
what happened here. Let's talk about where we are in
1:02:05
this war. I don't think we need to hear any
1:02:07
more about the war. I want to go to... This
1:02:11
clip from PBS NewsHour. How unusual is it for the
1:02:15
Secret Service to turn Air Force One and its passengers
1:02:18
to include White House staff, the traveling press, into a
1:02:21
decoy? Yeah. As far as we know, the decoy fact
1:02:25
of that question, it has only happened once before. In
1:02:28
2000, President Bill Clinton landed in Islamabad, you see there,
1:02:32
in an unmarked plane after Air Force One had landed
1:02:36
and a body double who looked like Clinton got off
1:02:39
of Air Force One. Didn't I just hear Jen Psaki?
1:02:42
Oh, no, Clinton wouldn't do it. No, Clinton wouldn't do
1:02:43
it. it clinton wouldn't do it bullshit he wouldn't do
1:02:46
that yeah i missed that story when it happened and
1:02:48
that's pretty cool so he had one of those probably
1:02:49
one of those did he look like what is it
1:02:51
daddy long legs uh the joey clone that was was
1:02:53
i think it was something that was just fairly close
1:02:56
so that way yeah was he eating a cheeseburger as
1:02:59
he walked or something that's what sold it he had
1:03:02
a big mac in one hand and a large chocolate
1:03:04
shake in the other Okay. And probably three hookers following
1:03:07
him. Bullshit. Jeff, though, if you go beyond decoys to
1:03:12
include feints or secret trips like George W. Bush's to
1:03:16
Iraq, the Secret Service has taken steps like that before.
1:03:21
As for questions today of the vulnerability... Of those people
1:03:24
who did fly on Air Force One without President Trump,
1:03:28
Matranga said the bottom line is the Secret Service had
1:03:31
to make a tradeoff. I don't think that anybody intentionally
1:03:36
put, you know, the anchors or anyone else, the White
1:03:40
House press corps in harm's way. But that was a
1:03:43
risk that had to be weighed. And at the end
1:03:46
of the day, we have to look at continuity of
1:03:48
American government and. Quite frankly, I don't know how to
1:03:51
say this, but just to say it is that the
1:03:53
president of the United States is more important than every
1:03:56
single person on that plane. Oh, they're not going to
1:03:59
want to hear that. They don't want to hear that
1:04:01
at all. No, the press is going to be like,
1:04:04
no, no, we're the most important one ever. Of course
1:04:06
they are. Now, this is how NPR covered it. The
1:04:10
reporting contradicts what the White House told the press traveling
1:04:13
with the president during a recent trip to Turkey. They
1:04:16
were contradicting. Yes. And as NPR's Tamara Keith reports, that
1:04:21
may have left reporters vulnerable. President Trump boarded Air Force
1:04:25
One as usual, but The Washington Post reports he was
1:04:28
then smuggled off the plane in a catering truck and
1:04:31
flew on an entirely different aircraft. An entirely different aircraft,
1:04:34
not just a different aircraft. Entirely. Not just a fuselage,
1:04:38
the wings and everything. It could have been a partially
1:04:41
different aircraft. Yes. He went on a totally different aircraft.
1:04:46
I feel like, is there anything from Scott Simon on
1:04:49
this stuff? I kind of miss him. We got to
1:04:51
jam him into these shows somehow, Darren. He might be
1:04:55
your beat. You can follow Scott Simon closely. I'm going
1:04:58
to put that on me. I'm carrying Scott. muggled off
1:05:02
the plane in a catering truck and flew on an
1:05:04
entirely different aircraft. NPR hasn't confirmed the report, but journalists
1:05:09
and White House aides who unknowingly flew on the decoy
1:05:12
plane were firmly instructed to keep their window shades lowered.
1:05:16
Later, talking to reporters, Trump never let on. Were you
1:05:20
aware of any credible threat by Iran against her? I
1:05:22
have a threat all the time. I'm number one on
1:05:24
their list. That's not a lie. That's no lie, no.
1:05:29
He is definitely number one. It's been well known for
1:05:33
all sorts of reasons. Yeah. Before you, but if I
1:05:38
go, you go. I love that whole. Oh, that pissed
1:05:43
them off so much when he said that. But do
1:05:45
they not understand? It didn't really matter whether he was
1:05:49
on the plane or not. And these are the same
1:05:52
people. that are going to belittle the threats against his
1:05:58
life yet when he leaves the plane and they're on
1:06:01
it all of a sudden these are very credible threats
1:06:03
how dare you leave these other people on this plane
1:06:06
when you knew they were trying to shoot it down
1:06:09
sure well they're all the butler false flag people right
1:06:12
well anybody if you're going to be in the white
1:06:15
house press corps if you're going to be one of
1:06:18
the few that travels with the president on air force
1:06:23
one. I think unless you're a complete moron, you have
1:06:28
to understand the dangers that are inherent to that job.
1:06:32
How would you not? Sure. Like, you know, you're near
1:06:36
a guy who is, Has had more assassination attempts, I
1:06:41
believe, or was the at least there were more times
1:06:45
that Secret Service actually had to fire on assailants than
1:06:49
any other president. No, no doubt. So, of course, if
1:06:52
you're around him, that might be a little dangerous. Hmm.
1:06:58
I have a list before you, but if I go,
1:07:01
you go. Right? So perhaps someday you want to change
1:07:05
professions. Tamara Keith, NPR News. Senator Richard Blumenthal says he
1:07:11
wants to know details about President Trump's travel out of
1:07:14
Turkey after a NATO summit. Blumenthal wants to know what
1:07:17
the safety calculations were for journalists and others who traveled
1:07:21
on Air Force One. And that's why I'd like to
1:07:23
know what precautions were taken to make sure that they
1:07:26
were safe flying on an airplane that could have been...
1:07:29
a target of the Iranians with missiles or other devices
1:07:33
that were capable of evading the defensive mechanisms on the
1:07:37
old Air Force One. Blumenthal spoke on CNN. Yeah, with
1:07:41
all due respect, Senator Blumenthal, you're a moron. Yeah, he's
1:07:45
also the stolen Valor Man, isn't he? Yes, he is.
1:07:48
You know what I'm surprised at? I would think that
1:07:51
by now, in fact, maybe we should get Musk on
1:07:53
this. Why hasn't some reporter robot... been invented so all
1:07:59
these press people can feel safe they can sit home
1:08:01
in their basements and you know converse with the president
1:08:04
watch him while robbie the robot you know press corps
1:08:07
guy is he's you know who cares if he gets
1:08:09
blown up it's okay Right. Right. You just have your
1:08:12
analog. It's like a little thing. Exactly. They did a
1:08:16
bit like that on the big bang theory, which was
1:08:19
Sheldon as the robot. And he couldn't leave the house
1:08:22
for some reason. I don't remember why. Right. They put
1:08:26
a drudge's hat on him with the press pass and
1:08:28
the hat band. Right. All you need is like an
1:08:30
iPad for the head. You put them on Zoom or
1:08:31
something like that. And everything's good. Bob's your uncle. It
1:08:36
just seems to. Yeah. It's so easy. It just seems
1:08:39
to work. Hmm. This I thought we don't, you know,
1:08:42
again, normally coverage the. Yeah. Of the podcast, but Rogan,
1:08:47
I thought had an interesting take on the Trump decoy.
1:08:50
Okay. Apparently, there was this plot where Iran was trying
1:08:54
to kill Trump. Remember when he was supposed to get
1:08:57
in the Air Force One that... Cotter gave him and
1:09:01
then instead he flew in the old Air Force One.
1:09:05
Okay. Well, they're saying that he actually didn't even go
1:09:08
in the old Air Force One, that they snuck him
1:09:11
out on a truck. Okay. Like some fucking cargo truck.
1:09:16
Okay. And then put him in another kind of plane.
1:09:19
Okay. And flew them out of there. And then they
1:09:21
put the press in Air Force One. Because they were
1:09:24
apparently worried they were going to target Air Force One
1:09:27
as well. So imagine... Trump put the press on Air
1:09:31
Force One and they were thinking about possibly targeting them.
1:09:36
Holy shit. He hid in an airport catering container. And
1:09:39
by putting them there, he means they were there because
1:09:41
they were going to be there anyway. The only thing
1:09:43
that changed was Trump was taken. Yes. Off the plane.
1:09:47
And the catering thing. Genius. Genius. I know Taylor Swift
1:09:51
has used the same thing to get in and out
1:09:53
of arenas. I wonder how the food was in that
1:09:55
catering truck. Was there a snack prepared from inside there?
1:09:58
No. Trump might have come out with.
1:10:00
The lamb shank or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is
1:10:03
some good stuff. It's great stuff. To a military jet
1:10:07
for a secret flight out of the country after the
1:10:09
NATO summit last month. And this is being reported by
1:10:11
the New York Times. The thing is, though, I think
1:10:14
they put the press on Air Force One. So if
1:10:18
they flew him out, it was because they were worried
1:10:21
they were going to try to take down Air Force
1:10:22
One. And they took the press. If they take the
1:10:25
press off, then they know that we know. You've got
1:10:28
to let them know that we're not playing games. Just
1:10:32
everything's normal. Exactly. And if the press dies, so sad.
1:10:36
Oh, my God. You just get more press. God. That's
1:10:39
fucking wild. If that's true, that is so wild that
1:10:42
he didn't even tell them, hey, guys, we're not really
1:10:45
going to get on this plane. No one's getting on
1:10:46
this plane. Somebody tell Joe that Clinton did the same
1:10:49
thing. I guess he missed that as well. It's all
1:10:52
right, Joe. But, you know, it's an interesting concept. It
1:10:56
is. And then they all want to get upset because
1:10:59
we were on the plane and we were in harm's
1:11:01
way. It's like, well, the only difference is whether Trump
1:11:04
was on the plane or not. You knew you were
1:11:06
going to be on the plane. You signed up for
1:11:09
that gig. You know, you're covering the president. You know,
1:11:12
you're on Air Force One. You know, that has some
1:11:15
danger. So come on. So they can all ask for
1:11:18
hazard pay. Now they should. If you're covering the president,
1:11:21
I'd be like, pay me double, man. Yeah. If you
1:11:24
got to be anywhere near that guy, it could get
1:11:26
very dangerous, very quick. But he doesn't care. The UFC
1:11:30
thing, right? Hey, you got to go sometime. Hey, we
1:11:33
talked about on the last show. He's like, I got
1:11:36
to go. We all got to go at some point.
1:11:38
And Trump at the age that he is, I think
1:11:42
is understanding that, you know, he's there to do a
1:11:47
job. And. It's hard to put yourself into anybody else's
1:11:54
shoes no matter what. Sure. But I think after the
1:11:58
Butler thing. Trump had a reckoning that, you know, if
1:12:04
I don't know what his belief system is, but if
1:12:08
you believe in a higher power at all and a
1:12:12
bullet literally grazes your ear but does not blow your
1:12:17
head off. I think you kind of double down, triple
1:12:22
down, quadruple down or more on the I'm here to
1:12:26
do a job. This is clear. And the man or
1:12:29
woman upstairs, whatever you believe in, is looking out for
1:12:35
him. One would think, yeah. Because it's a very interesting
1:12:39
position to be in. And the guy, I mean, he's
1:12:42
either just a total badass. People are like, oh, they're
1:12:44
all Trumpers. Hey, I didn't even vote for Trump the
1:12:47
first time. Shame on you. No, you weren't well at
1:12:50
the time. No, I was faced down with the whole
1:12:52
rental detachment thing. I forgive you, Derek. Time flies when
1:12:56
you're having fun. Where do we want to go in
1:12:59
this media deconstruction? Media deconstruction. Well, this is kind of
1:13:05
a fun one here with a kind of a catchphrase
1:13:07
that might catch on. This is Caitlyn Jenner talking about...
1:13:13
One of our favorite topics. But before we go here,
1:13:15
wait a minute. Wait a minute. We're talking about the
1:13:18
WNBA, right? And last week, did I not suggest, almost
1:13:23
beg both you and Adam Curry, both at 6'5", to
1:13:28
apply for the WNBA? For the WNBA. What are you
1:13:34
waiting for? I haven't heard a goddamn thing, Darren. Get
1:13:36
busy. We could be enforcers. Exactly. Enforcers didn't usually exist
1:13:42
in basketball. In the NBA, really, they don't exist. In
1:13:47
the WNBA, they didn't exist. In hockey is the sport
1:13:51
where you have... the enforcer, which is somebody that is
1:13:56
Almost entirely on the team. to fight people on the
1:14:01
other team. Was that Dave the Hammer Schultz? Was he
1:14:04
one of those guys? There were a few of them
1:14:05
in the... What a name. Don't you wish you were
1:14:07
nicknamed the Hammer? I'm telling you, man. There were some...
1:14:10
Stu Grimson was one of them here in Chicago. There
1:14:13
were a few that that was... When they went on
1:14:17
the ice, you knew... Within seconds, most likely, there was
1:14:21
going to be the gloves dropping and a fight breaking
1:14:25
out. And there's nothing more interesting to me. And there's
1:14:30
a bunch of videos on YouTube that anybody can look
1:14:32
up. of nhl players talking to each other before and
1:14:41
after fights including there is some you know they're sitting
1:14:45
there they're waiting for the puck to drop so this
1:14:47
is you know when the referee is holding there he's
1:14:49
getting ready to drop the puck play will go in
1:14:51
but they they wait until the puck drops for the
1:14:53
fight to start Sure. And these two guys are standing
1:14:57
next to each other and there's a bunch of them
1:14:58
that are out there like this. And the one that
1:15:00
comes to mind, the guy's like, Hey, how you doing?
1:15:02
Oh, I'm good. You want to go? Yeah, sure. Oh,
1:15:06
good luck to you. And the buck drops as they
1:15:09
start fighting. and then after they're in the penalty box,
1:15:13
like, Oh, I got to work on my cardio, man.
1:15:16
It's like, it's their job. It's what they do. So,
1:15:20
I mean, I could be an enforcer in the WNBA.
1:15:22
Pretty sure. Go for it. Go for it. You need
1:15:24
an agent. You can be, you'll be, okay, if you
1:15:27
can get Adam and I the gigs, you know, on
1:15:29
the WNBA, you play the agent, you get us the
1:15:31
spot. I'll be your Jerry Maguire. Exactly. Show me the
1:15:35
money. Exactly. No, not Cuba, Jerry. Oh, okay. Cuba was
1:15:39
canceled too, you know. Who hasn't been canceled? Really? Who
1:15:43
hasn't been canceled? Yeah. And who doesn't understand yet that
1:15:47
the canceling is usually at the behest of a large
1:15:51
money group? Yes. Very rarely that it's actually a grassroots
1:15:57
movement. Yes. Now, we have any setup on this, Caitlin.
1:16:02
Yeah, it's just it's it's it's Caitlin Jenner talking to,
1:16:05
you know, on the news to someone. I don't know.
1:16:07
Some talking head about his her thoughts on the WNBA.
1:16:12
X, X, you're in. X, Y, you're out. It's simple.
1:16:16
That's the catchphrase. Let's remember that. I'm going to get
1:16:19
that tattooed on myself. X, you're in. X, while you're
1:16:23
out. That is called pure logic for any generation besides
1:16:28
this current one. You're right. It is. X, X, you're
1:16:32
in. XY, you're out. It's that simple. And I think
1:16:37
are doing a good job just to show the WNBA
1:16:39
how the hypocrisy that's going on here. We have to
1:16:42
protect women's sports. I have been coming on this show
1:16:46
for years and years. I want to protect women's sports.
1:16:49
Right. Title nine was. One of the greatest legislations, and
1:16:53
it was over 50 years ago, for women's equality. It
1:16:56
happened to be in sports. But look at what it's
1:16:58
done for women's sports. I don't want that to be
1:17:02
ruined by letting biological men come in and play in
1:17:06
women's sports. You know, XX you're in, XY you're out.
1:17:11
You can go play with the men. Right. Where's the
1:17:14
trans league? That's fine. That's fine. Do that. Yeah. As
1:17:18
long as everybody is on equal footing, that's all that
1:17:21
matters. And it didn't occur to me at first. And
1:17:25
you were the first one to bring it up, which
1:17:28
was the fighters in men boxing. are all done by
1:17:32
weight class and it's done for a reason that you
1:17:35
don't have a lightweight fighting a heavyweight. Sure. And that
1:17:40
is within the same sex. Yeah. So when you go
1:17:43
on down this other, which is why, as you've probably
1:17:47
noticed, we brought the clip on the last show, two
1:17:52
shows ago, where the guy from outkick sports, uh, offered
1:17:57
$10 million. He was hoping that Elon would like triple
1:18:01
that or something or bring it to a hundred million.
1:18:03
Yeah. Because he wants to see the WNBA champions, uh,
1:18:10
go up against a high school basketball team he is
1:18:14
so sure remember we had the clip from the journalist
1:18:17
in minneapolis like well they're just treating this as a
1:18:20
joke it's like no no that's real money madam of
1:18:23
course it is and it's not a joke it is
1:18:26
to prove that a high school team will Most likely
1:18:32
not just beat the WNBA champions. They will probably blow
1:18:38
them out. Yeah. And if that's the case, I don't
1:18:43
know how anybody with any bit of logic to them
1:18:48
would not be able to look at it and go,
1:18:50
oh. Yeah, now I get it. This is why we
1:18:53
don't let men play in women's sports. You know, it's
1:18:55
like, you know, the key word is logic. You can't
1:18:58
ask for that, Darren. Just don't even don't even use
1:19:00
the word. It's bad. Well, that's why I can't even
1:19:03
imagine. And this would be the fun part. Maybe they
1:19:06
would only end up playing a game. These, you know,
1:19:08
Inez Freedom and the other dude, I forget his name,
1:19:10
who wanted in. Yeah. On the WNBA. But just say
1:19:14
these guys or someone like them. Hell, probably even Michael
1:19:19
Jordan at his age now. Oh, sure. Were to go
1:19:23
in and play one game for a WNBA team. It
1:19:27
would be hard to believe that they wouldn't dominate the
1:19:30
game. Okay, Jordan's lost the step. He's getting older, but...
1:19:33
These guys that are fresh out of the NBA or
1:19:36
if you were to take a current NBA player, I
1:19:41
would expect that guy to score 80 points. He would
1:19:45
make the world. I think Will Chamberlain holds the record.
1:19:48
Whatever it is, he would make that look like nothing.
1:19:52
Yeah, no doubt. Because again, it's logic and we don't
1:19:55
have logic. There was another Victor Davis breakdown.
1:20:00
on this, which I'm intrigued that he keeps covering this.
1:20:03
Really? Yes. Kaitlin Clark single-handedly put the WNBA on the
1:20:10
map. True. And that's what the problem is because the
1:20:16
WNBA was sort of a little unknown league that was
1:20:20
65% black. People had suggested it was 35 to 40
1:20:25
percent gay, and they sort of had their own little
1:20:30
atmosphere, their own culture, and they weren't really being rewarded,
1:20:36
but they controlled the ownership of, The coaches, the referees,
1:20:42
the players all were on this DEI left wing page.
1:20:47
And suddenly the great benefactors, all of them, happened to
1:20:53
be white heterosexuals like Caitlin Clark and Sophie Cunningham. Which
1:21:00
is the problem. It's like it's somebody that doesn't fit
1:21:04
into our group, which it's the separation of groups. It
1:21:08
is a thread that has been going on for 50
1:21:11
years. You get the rich again. You get the poor
1:21:15
against the rich. You get everybody against the cops. You
1:21:18
get the black against the white. You get everybody. Everybody.
1:21:23
And this was a very specific little group in the
1:21:26
WNBA. And all of a sudden they're like, wait, these
1:21:30
two women that are now getting all of the attention.
1:21:34
Well, they're the minority. They don't fit into what the
1:21:37
rest of the league is, even though they are. showing
1:21:42
them up with what they're doing on the court. They
1:21:46
don't like that because like so many things now, everything
1:21:50
is culture based. It's race based. It is. Oh, wait,
1:21:55
you're not a lesbian. How dare you play in the
1:21:57
WNBA? And they didn't want that. In other words, they
1:22:01
were willing to commit violence against them. And the league
1:22:05
was either going to condone it or plead ignorance rather
1:22:10
than all benefit. Yeah. And we're seeing that. It's just
1:22:14
like the violence in the streets of, well, name your
1:22:18
major city here. Sure. Sure. What's stunning, though, is that
1:22:22
the coaches not only not disapprove of this behavior, they
1:22:26
advocate for it. You know, like the one that's running
1:22:30
the fever, right? She's all pissed off. And, I mean,
1:22:33
you watch a lot more team sports than I do,
1:22:37
but it's always been sort of... believe that if the
1:22:42
guys or the women on any given athletic team are
1:22:46
adversaries, their performance is going to plummet, really. You know,
1:22:52
I mean, think about that. And these people are hating
1:22:55
each other and pissed off and so forth. It's got
1:22:57
to affect the level of play. And most coaches would
1:23:00
squelch that damn fast because that spreads very quickly. Right,
1:23:04
because the ideal would be a team where everybody sticks
1:23:09
together. Yeah, of course. Yeah. The number one job of
1:23:14
coaching or managing is to back your player no matter
1:23:19
what. Even if you think they were wrong, the thing
1:23:22
you do in public in front of the cameras is
1:23:25
you back your player. Yeah. And there was a lot
1:23:29
of this in the. Yeah. Chicago Bulls, even when Michael
1:23:33
Jordan was here winning six different championships, you know, there
1:23:37
was inner strife at times, and that definitely took their
1:23:42
teams down, and then you had, when I used to
1:23:44
watch baseball, And I used to be a baseball addict.
1:23:47
I am a recovering baseball addict. I used to watch
1:23:50
every White Sox game for this season, which is 162
1:23:56
games, plus there's spring training, plus there's postseason. It took
1:24:00
a lot of time. Really? And the 2005 White Sox,
1:24:05
I'm glad because one of my favorite players, Ozzie Guillen,
1:24:08
came to manage in 2004. Very fun guy, says things
1:24:11
people don't like. He also got canceled while managing the
1:24:15
Miami team. But 2005, I was glad. I was fully
1:24:18
into baseball. Saw the White Sox win their only championship.
1:24:21
And the point is, there was not a game. one
1:24:24
superstar on that team, but you had a whole team
1:24:28
of people that had each other's backs and they won
1:24:31
the world series. There you are. Yeah, it works. Yeah.
1:24:36
And there was one subtext that no one talks about,
1:24:39
but it's right there staring us in the face that
1:24:41
Caitlin Clark is probably the best player. And that's not
1:24:45
supposed to happen in a predominantly gay, black, gay, gay,
1:24:47
gay, gay. female league. Doesn't mean that other players are
1:24:50
not nearly as good, but we haven't seen anybody like
1:24:53
her in women's national basketball. And in the case of
1:24:59
Sophie Cunningham, she's tall, she's beautiful, she's blonde, she's white,
1:25:04
and people resent that as well. You put those two
1:25:07
figures together, they create all this controversy and hostility, and
1:25:12
they remind America that something is definitely wrong with this
1:25:16
league. Something that encourages racism, it encourages sexual prejudice, it
1:25:23
encourages violence, and nobody wants to touch it. And if
1:25:28
it continues, maybe they'll lose Sophie Cunningham and they would
1:25:33
lose... caitlin clark and if they lost both of them
1:25:36
they would go back to their preferred obscurity and poverty
1:25:41
which it seems like a very weird thing to want
1:25:44
i mean one it's really scary that it's a little
1:25:48
social you know Cosm of what's going on there, which
1:25:52
is what's going on everywhere, which is let's spread the
1:25:55
hate. Let's spread all of these bad things. But the
1:25:58
concept that they would rather. be not in the spotlight,
1:26:05
not having huge amounts of fans, not having a huge
1:26:09
bunch of money coming in because we're just having fun
1:26:12
and we only want to do it with people we
1:26:14
like. It's a very weird concept. I've only run into
1:26:18
this when working for a country artist back in the
1:26:21
day. Running the whole website fan club thing. And there
1:26:25
were people that would say things like, Oh, I'll be
1:26:28
glad when she's not so popular and we can see
1:26:30
her in a small venue again. And it's like, What?
1:26:33
I get the concept, but I realize that that is
1:26:37
just meaning your favorite artist is now going to be
1:26:40
a nobody and not making any money and not really
1:26:42
having a successful career. But OK. OK, it's easier for
1:26:46
you, I guess, to get to see him in a
1:26:49
smaller venue. But I think there's leftist underpinnings to that
1:26:55
behavior. You know, pretty much they just, look, all they
1:26:58
can say now is to destroy the billionaires and especially
1:27:01
that trillionaire. Right, that one guy, the bad guy. You
1:27:04
know, it's the gospel of envy, as Churchill called it,
1:27:08
and they just don't like to see people really... achieve
1:27:11
greatness in any way you know we all we remember
1:27:14
what's one of their favorite phrases we are one we
1:27:17
are one we are one yes you know okay i
1:27:20
keep pointing out if everybody is the same you're not
1:27:25
going to be jay-z and beyonce you're not going to
1:27:27
be taylor and travis you're not going to be rock
1:27:30
hudson and doris day no there's a callback You're going
1:27:34
to be flipping the burgers. You're going to be the
1:27:37
guy sweeping up after the horse as he walks in
1:27:39
the parade in Disneyland. You're not going to be. No,
1:27:43
they're going to be the people sitting home collecting government
1:27:45
checks just because they deserve it. They won't be big.
1:27:49
The checks. No, they won't. They're going to have to
1:27:50
steal soap. You're so true. They're going to have to
1:27:54
go to mem Donnie's grocery store and buy expired fruit.
1:27:58
And then they're going to have to steal soap. And,
1:28:00
uh, Yeah. You know, the beautiful thing about the United
1:28:04
States is you're going to fail. You're probably going to
1:28:08
fail, but you get to try again. Yes. Nobody knows
1:28:12
if your first act is going to work. For some
1:28:14
people, it does. For some people, it takes a little
1:28:17
while longer. And if you put in the hard work,
1:28:20
eventually. you'll probably hit on something. Hopefully, yeah. Now, we've
1:28:28
got the USS Lincoln. We've got the Glove Story. I
1:28:32
mean, it's all good stuff, man. Pick one. Endless buffet.
1:28:37
Yeah. We've got the USS Lincoln, which, again, is going
1:28:41
to show you more about... how the media treats things
1:28:47
more than actually having a story. We've got, of course,
1:28:53
MS now. They're going to be on top of it,
1:28:55
right? Good, good, good. My colleague Lindsay Papilla and I
1:28:58
spoke exclusively to the wife of the sailor who jumped
1:29:01
off the USS Lincoln and was medically evacuated from the
1:29:03
ship. The Lincoln's been deployed for 265 days and hit
1:29:07
a modern day record for most continuous days at sea
1:29:10
without a port call. Of course, we got the music
1:29:13
that has to be very dramatic. Yeah. I don't even
1:29:16
know if that was music. It was awful. It really
1:29:18
sounded like a modem tone. Just really. Yeah, exactly. Yes.
1:29:23
And if you don't know what a modem tone is,
1:29:25
listen to the last show and you will find out
1:29:27
plenty of them there. But we spoke exclusively in all
1:29:31
of these stories. Are coming through family members, which means
1:29:37
you're not getting any firsthand accounts. And they're making it
1:29:42
sound like these ships are out there for completely ungodly
1:29:47
lengths of time. Are they a little longer than normal
1:29:51
with the Lincoln right now? Yes, but it's not exactly
1:29:55
going on years or anything. You're talking...
1:30:00
Maybe a month or two extended over what in average.
1:30:03
I don't know if most people understand this, Larry. It
1:30:06
takes a little bit of money to move an aircraft
1:30:08
carrier from the United States to the Iran off the
1:30:12
Strait of Hormuz. It's a little bit of an expense.
1:30:17
So what is the point of MS now running this
1:30:20
story? Because so is it is it Trump bad? Trump
1:30:24
bad. OK. Family members are concerned about potential exhaustion, low
1:30:28
morale and the mental health of those on board. We
1:30:31
know MS now very unlikely that they're going to care
1:30:35
about the well-being of the military. Yeah. The wife of
1:30:41
the sailor who jumped said her husband was struggling with
1:30:44
his mental health and repeatedly expressed his concerns to his
1:30:47
higher-ups, but was quote-unquote brushed off. The Navy says they
1:30:51
can't comment on the medical records of individual service members
1:30:54
to protect patient privacy. In the last message she received
1:30:58
from him before he went overboard, he said in part,
1:31:01
I think the boat is finally getting to me. It's
1:31:03
really getting me. I don't think I can do another
1:31:05
deployment after this, and I don't even know if I
1:31:08
can finish this deployment. The woman told me her husband
1:31:10
jumped off the ship. last Monday, but she didn't hear
1:31:13
anything from the Navy for four days, not until Friday,
1:31:17
despite her attempts to reach out. She also said he
1:31:20
raised concerns about his prescription contact lenses having expired, saying
1:31:24
he was getting yelled at for accidents on the flight
1:31:27
deck that he said happened because he couldn't see properly.
1:31:31
She says despite that, he was still allowed to work.
1:31:34
She told me, quote, I think that also had a
1:31:37
big toll on him because he could have injured a
1:31:38
lot of people and he could have injured himself because
1:31:41
that's what they kept yelling at him every time he
1:31:43
made a mistake. So basically everything's wrong. They're doing everything
1:31:47
wrong. I mean, can you buy that? Imagine this. So
1:31:51
this guy, he's on the flight deck of a carrier,
1:31:53
and I would assume in some ways he's responsible for
1:31:55
the safe takeoff and landings of the aircraft, right? Correct.
1:31:59
That's what they're saying anyway. What skipper on earth, even
1:32:03
in the Navy of Zimbabwe? would say, oh, you're not
1:32:08
seeing so good. Do it anyway. We'll take our chances
1:32:10
with you. I mean, it's ludicrous. There's got to be
1:32:13
more to this story, a lot more to this story
1:32:16
than we're getting. Well, yeah, because if you know your
1:32:18
contacts are expiring, believe it or not, they do bring
1:32:20
mail and stuff to these people. You could have had
1:32:22
more contacts delivered. You know. Absolutely. Just because they don't
1:32:26
sail into a port, they still get supply ships visit.
1:32:30
And they can move stuff from ship to ship like
1:32:31
you wouldn't believe. And that's the beauty of these types
1:32:36
of reports that are, well, we spoke to the family
1:32:39
and here's what they're reporting. And of course, there's nobody
1:32:43
here to push back on any of this. And the
1:32:47
report, again, the amount of money. That it would cost
1:32:52
if there was an accident with a plane going onto
1:32:55
the carrier would the toll of lives would be just
1:32:59
unbelievably harsh. So, yeah, I don't believe for a minute
1:33:04
or somebody like, hey, Skipper, I can't see like, no,
1:33:06
no problem. Go out there. Don't buy it for one
1:33:10
minute. And of course we don't have any comment in
1:33:12
the whole, Oh no, they didn't hear from for four
1:33:15
days. They're in a war zone. Okay, you may not
1:33:20
get notified immediately. I hope these people understand that you're
1:33:25
not going to get immediate notification. It's a weird thing.
1:33:29
I don't know how much communication we can get boots
1:33:32
on the ground from somebody probably for this. How much
1:33:36
communication if you're on a mission like this. Can you
1:33:42
email daily? Can you text? I don't know. What is
1:33:45
available? Yeah. I mean, I would assume with Elon's magical
1:33:49
satellites, you could probably communicate a lot, but it's like
1:33:54
that is something that maybe shouldn't be allowed either. I
1:33:57
don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Also, MSNOW. Two unnamed
1:34:16
sources, of course. Of course. Of course they're unnamed. They
1:34:20
were there. I first reported about the conditions on the
1:34:24
USS Lincoln last week after speaking to about a dozen
1:34:27
of the family members of the Marines and sailors on
1:34:30
board. They told me about things like non-operational toilets, moldy
1:34:34
showers, and the ship's store lacking basic hygiene products like
1:34:38
toothpaste, soap, and deodorant. The Lincoln's deployment appears to be
1:34:42
extended for a second time. time and they just hit
1:34:45
a modern day record in the navy for the most
1:34:47
continuous days at sea topping 200 days many of the
1:34:51
family members who spoke up at the meeting were crying
1:34:54
about the lack of hygiene products on board and they
1:34:57
say that they're all right for all of the things
1:35:01
you can be upset about Well, see, that ship needs
1:35:04
to dock in New York so they can steal the
1:35:06
soap from CVS. There's an easy answer. Come on. I
1:35:10
don't believe for one minute a military family is crying
1:35:14
because mommy or daddy can't get a tube of toothpaste.
1:35:20
Yeah. Also really worried about the fact that these long
1:35:24
hours with very little breaks could lead to exhaustion, which
1:35:27
could potentially lead to accidents. Which, again, the military is
1:35:32
well aware of. And if there are accidents, it is
1:35:35
a multimillion dollar accident on an aircraft carrier. Sure. So
1:35:41
usually they have a pretty well-oiled machine, if you will,
1:35:47
on scheduling and people have off time. Now, I understand
1:35:51
maybe some people have insomnia. Some people are tired. It's
1:35:55
been a long. I get it. But this is not
1:35:58
the first time a ship has been sent out for
1:36:01
over 200 days. I'm sure it isn't. At times, the
1:36:05
family members were crying in the meeting, saying that they
1:36:08
were really worried about the fact that their loved ones
1:36:11
were facing food shortages and also shortages in basic supplies.
1:36:15
Wouldn't you have led with maybe there's food shortage, but
1:36:17
maybe there were food shortages. We're not saying there is
1:36:20
food shortages. We're saying there's possible food shortages, Larry. Yeah,
1:36:24
well, we're not saying there are. But we're saying it's
1:36:28
possible. Yeah. Well, anything's possible. At one point, a woman
1:36:33
actually said that she found it difficult to be proud
1:36:36
of her husband's service because he had actually been questioning
1:36:40
the mission after he had seen several news reports about
1:36:43
innocent civilians being killed in Iran. There we go. There
1:36:47
you go. You know, there you go. You know, the
1:36:49
innocent civilians killed in Iran were there. The people that
1:36:52
were standing up that the government killed. The reason you're
1:36:55
there is to try to get those people out. Yeah.
1:37:00
You know, I would say to these people, they should,
1:37:02
you know, if they weren't around, there's probably some books,
1:37:06
some diaries, whatever, of the families of veterans from World
1:37:11
War II whose dads and uncles and brothers were, let's
1:37:15
say, like on the Bataan Death March. They didn't have
1:37:20
cell phones. Maybe they got a letter every two months
1:37:23
if they were lucky. They had no idea what was
1:37:26
going on with those guys. And that's horrible, but that's
1:37:29
what kind of war is about. And whatever these guys
1:37:33
are enduring on that aircraft carrier is literally a boat
1:37:36
ride compared to what those guys went through in ground
1:37:40
wars. 60 years ago. Yeah, war is not a vacation.
1:37:45
No. And obviously they think it should be like, oh,
1:37:49
no, they're not getting they're not getting their massages twice
1:37:51
a day. Like, well, this is what they signed up
1:37:54
for. The job sucks. I get it. That's why you
1:37:57
appreciate the people that serve. It is, of course, an
1:38:00
easy thing to do. It's not like, oh, you're going
1:38:04
to be on an aircraft carrier for six months or
1:38:06
however long it is. You know, that's going to be
1:38:08
fun. No, it's not. And in point of fact, if
1:38:11
you look on YouTube, there are multiple Carnival Cruises that
1:38:15
are worse than that carrier. I've seen a few of
1:38:17
those. That's a stone fact. It's the reason I've never
1:38:21
been on a cruise. I've seen some videos in our
1:38:23
life. I watched a documentary a while ago. I couldn't
1:38:26
stop laughing. It was called The Poop Cruise. What's the
1:38:28
like of fright? That's a big floating Ebola chain. I
1:38:31
don't know. No, no, no, no, no. This thing, for
1:38:33
some reason, I forget what the hell happened, but it
1:38:36
lost all power. And, of course, I think it was
1:38:39
Carnival. And so for like six days, it was just
1:38:44
adrift in the Gulf of America. And what happened when
1:38:47
the power went out, well, then the toilets don't flush
1:38:50
on ships. And the water's in flow. And I think
1:38:53
on two or three decks, there was like four inches
1:38:58
of sewage water with feces and peepee. It was just
1:39:02
beyond belief. And that, you know what, I guarantee you.
1:39:05
That cruise was much worse than that carrier's Enduring in
1:39:09
the Mideast right now. You know, that was you just
1:39:13
retelling something and not a clip, but Chris Wilson sent
1:39:16
this in and it fits. Depressing clip of the day.
1:39:27
Oh, whoa. Did somebody smack a puppy? I'm going to
1:39:30
get pissed if that's what the, what was that? I
1:39:32
don't know. I don't know. What was the, uh, I
1:39:34
think that was a gunshot at the end there. Ooh.
1:39:38
What, what, what, what makes that kind of noise in
1:39:40
the, uh, in Ozzy? I'm not sure. Oh. a little
1:39:44
bit left here and then we got pegs if responding
1:39:48
her comment was met with applause from the audience now
1:39:51
navy leaders said that they're planning on sending the uss
1:39:54
theater roosevelt another aircraft carrier in the region to relieve
1:39:57
the lincoln but they couldn't give
1:40:00
a definitive timeline about when that would happen or when
1:40:03
the Lincoln would come home. But they did say that
1:40:06
they're committed to improving the conditions on the Lincoln while
1:40:10
they continue to fight in this war that has no
1:40:12
clear end in sight. Oh, there you go. No clear
1:40:15
end in sight of the war. It's a forever war.
1:40:19
Remember that. I pointed it out on the last episode,
1:40:22
and I know it doesn't mean anything to some people,
1:40:26
but there have been 18 service members who have given
1:40:29
their life because they care enough to fight for freedom
1:40:32
around the world. In the same time period, 180 people
1:40:38
murdered. In the city of Chicago. So when people try
1:40:41
to tell you. That the cost is too high. I
1:40:45
just want you to have the receipts, as the kids
1:40:47
say. Good point. This is from CBS KRCG, a Hegseth
1:40:53
reaction. Pentagon facing major questions tonight about reports of American
1:40:58
sailors jumping overboard from the USS Abraham Lincoln, which has
1:41:01
now been deployed in the Middle East for 266 days.
1:41:06
It's about nine months, nine months deployed. 250 of those
1:41:09
days, not even with a land stop. This is because
1:41:12
they are in the middle of Trump's war with Iran.
1:41:15
Trump's war with Iran, not our war, not the United
1:41:19
States war. It's Trump's war with Iran. And that war
1:41:23
is taking a toll on sailors aboard who've complained about
1:41:28
not having enough food. They've literally gone hungry. And we've
1:41:31
heard these complaints, the lack of basic necessities. We haven't
1:41:34
heard these complaints. Actually, madam, what we've heard is family
1:41:37
members allegedly recounting stories that they got firsthand. We have
1:41:42
not, as far as I can tell, and I looked.
1:41:44
There are no clips of service men from or service
1:41:48
women from the Lincoln giving a first hand account. Yeah.
1:41:54
These that includes toothpaste, deodorant, soap. And again, who wrote
1:41:57
this list? That's always about toothpaste, deodorant. So, yeah, interesting.
1:42:03
And all of those things add up with an incredibly
1:42:06
long deployment that keeps getting extended to dangerously low morale.
1:42:10
There are 5,000 American sailors on board. But tonight, the
1:42:14
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is denying the reports, saying they're
1:42:18
simply untrue. Listen to what he told Newsmax when questioned
1:42:21
about the reporting while traveling in Panama. Thank you. completely
1:42:24
misrepresented. Listen, we make sure at... Every ship, every crew,
1:42:29
every captain has everything we can provide them at every
1:42:33
single moment. Some deployments are longer than others, and I
1:42:36
have more respect and gratitude for those sailors than anybody.
1:42:43
This, again, is all just about making the average person
1:42:47
listening be against what's going on. And there are people
1:42:52
on both sides. I mean, that was one of the
1:42:54
places that people always like Darren and Larry, they agreed
1:42:58
too much where you were like, hey, no, I don't
1:42:59
think we should be there. No. Trump said no new
1:43:02
wars. And I'm the guy that's like, well, words mean
1:43:05
things. And it's really, is it a war? No, it's
1:43:08
a military action. I was that guy. You were that
1:43:11
guy. But I still think nothing's going to really change
1:43:14
when they pack up and leave. No, because there's only
1:43:18
two ways for there to be real change. Nuking is
1:43:23
one. Right. Well, blowing up. Pretty much everything in the
1:43:27
country away, whether it's or not. Yes. And they don't
1:43:30
want to do that. No. Or getting rid of the
1:43:33
current regime. If you don't do one of those. then
1:43:38
yeah, you're going to be right back more or less
1:43:41
where you started. According to Donald, he's already gotten rid
1:43:44
of two or three regimes. It seems like there's always
1:43:47
a backup regime. Those guys are prepared. They do keep
1:43:50
recycling. Yes. There's no question about it. You can never
1:43:56
tell the latest regime from the previous one. They all
1:43:59
look the same. It's very strange, isn't it? Yeah, but
1:44:01
you know who owns the Strait of Hormuz now, right?
1:44:04
Who does? After we finish defeating Iran, which is being
1:44:10
very badly defeated... Pretty soon I'll be declaring the Hormo
1:44:19
Strait, a territory of the United States. And again, he's
1:44:24
laughing while he says it. But what I want him
1:44:29
to do desperately, and I really mean this, Darren, I
1:44:32
want him to call that thing the Strait of America.
1:44:35
Put it on the maps. Yes, yes, yes, yes. That's
1:44:39
all that really matters. Put it on the map. That's
1:44:40
all that matters. Yes. It's all naming rights. Yes. Not
1:44:44
wrong. Not wrong. Essentially, that's what we have the blockade.
1:44:48
And again, he then says, essentially. So not only did
1:44:52
he laugh through it to make it clear that it
1:44:56
was a joke. And then he's like, well, that's just
1:44:59
essentially what it is because we're controlling it. And people
1:45:03
are all going nuts like, oh, no, he's going to
1:45:06
go. No. Why don't you people pay attention? That's too
1:45:11
difficult. True. No ships get through unless we want them
1:45:13
to. And how about Venezuela? Venezuela was a one-day war.
1:45:19
And now we work great with them. We've taken in
1:45:22
millions and millions of barrels of oil. Which is true.
1:45:26
And then, of course, it's the cost of gas for
1:45:28
you to pay a tiny little bit more for your
1:45:31
gasoline. Just remember, you're doing it so that a very
1:45:34
evil country cannot have a country. Really, it's the number
1:45:38
one state sponsor of terror in the world. We don't
1:45:41
want to have them have a nuclear weapon. So remember
1:45:44
that when you have to pay a little bit more,
1:45:46
you're at $4. It's okay. I mean, I'll never apologize.
1:45:51
I did the right thing. But you could, you know,
1:45:54
if you didn't have... You'd be a... I mean, I
1:45:59
had it down to below $2 in many states, but
1:46:02
California can't include because they keep taxing, taxing, taxing. Yeah,
1:46:06
California keeps blowing up, up, up no matter what. Yes.
1:46:10
And for the lefties that are all like, oh, no,
1:46:13
we're paying too much for gasoline. Well, let me remind
1:46:17
you. During Joe Biden, here's an MSNBC back when it
1:46:21
was still MSNBC. Andrea Mitchell. It's a potent one, but
1:46:25
I really do think in talking to members of Congress
1:46:29
that they now see the politics right now, and it
1:46:33
may not last, that the American people are behind this.
1:46:37
And. more likely are willing to take a hit at
1:46:41
the pump. I don't think it's been sold adequately. Well,
1:46:46
if it means not bringing war here, right? Like, that's
1:46:49
another way to message this, I might argue. Yeah, and
1:46:52
Putin's price hike is a great way to message it.
1:46:55
So they were fine. The Democrats were fine, including their
1:46:59
talking heads, because of the war in Ukraine. Ukraine. And
1:47:04
it was Putin's price hike, not Joey's. Right. Never forget
1:47:07
that. So why is this the Trump price hike and
1:47:10
not the Mueller's? Who knows? And I just don't remember
1:47:13
how much oil we get from Ukraine or Russia. I
1:47:16
don't think any. But somehow it was Putin's price hike.
1:47:18
I don't know. I couldn't make sense of that, Darren.
1:47:21
What's wrong with me? But it shows you exactly the
1:47:24
insanity of. because they're going to, it all is political.
1:47:29
It's not about giving you the facts who, why, what,
1:47:31
where, well, who, why, what, when, how, whatever they are
1:47:34
just giving you the politics. They don't care. And this
1:47:38
was okay. That little blurb in there. Well, they're willing
1:47:42
to pay more at the pump to keep the war.
1:47:46
Um, over there you know in ukraine yes what about
1:47:50
in iran when you want to keep the war out
1:47:53
of your uh You know, out of your own little
1:47:57
area, I would think that would be the case, but
1:48:00
no. Yeah, but you know, everybody loves Zelensky, especially Ben
1:48:03
Stiller. So that's who matters. Do you remember that there
1:48:07
was a video of Ben meeting Zelensky? It was hysterical.
1:48:11
Zelensky's standing in the middle of this pretty large room,
1:48:15
and they led Ben through a door on the side
1:48:17
like a hamster coming out of a cage. And as
1:48:20
he walks across the room to greet Zelensky, he's got
1:48:23
his both hands in front of him in the prayer
1:48:26
position. I don't remember that. Maybe I didn't see it.
1:48:29
It was bizarre. It was like, what is this? You
1:48:33
know, the bows and scrapes. He didn't kiss his hand,
1:48:35
but I was expecting him to do that. There were
1:48:38
a lot of bizarre things. Yeah. Yeah. Including here, we've
1:48:42
got a boots on the ground, but this is a
1:48:43
wait before you get to boots on the ground. There's
1:48:46
one more Iran thing I'd love to walk you through
1:48:48
real quick. Sure. Before we leave Iran. And this this
1:48:51
just made me laugh. And maybe Trump should know about
1:48:54
this. The headline was dig it. Iran's black widow. faces
1:49:00
multiple death sentences after gruesomely killing at least 10 10
1:49:05
of her ex-husbands oh she's got to be a very
1:49:08
attractive woman then you wouldn't believe it wow really frightening
1:49:12
oh my god she's so scary looking why 10 guys
1:49:15
why how did she catch 10 dudes Well, I think
1:49:20
they don't give all the details, but I think she's
1:49:23
56. Her name is Kulthum Akbari. 56 confessed to much
1:49:28
of the horrific body count, the Manzandaran Province Public Relations
1:49:32
Office told Iranian state media last Sunday. They mentioned one
1:49:35
of her victims, the latest one, he was 82. So
1:49:38
the guy was probably not 70. I mean, she's not
1:49:40
seeing that very well. But I mean, still, that's a
1:49:43
hell of a run. And she's a weapon in her
1:49:46
own right, really. I mean, that's quite a stack of
1:49:50
bodies she's knocked over. And they said the motive was
1:49:54
greed and that she collected gold, cash and other dowry
1:49:58
wealth. Yeah.
1:50:00
From her victims. Okay. And what was her method? Well,
1:50:04
what a gold in the favor. Well, what she did
1:50:07
was something, you know, one of my guilty pleasures with
1:50:10
my wife used to be watching like 48 hours and
1:50:12
all these murder mystery things. And so many times these
1:50:16
women would kill their husbands by feeding them. Um. breakfast
1:50:22
drinks like orange juice or jello shots that were laced
1:50:25
with antifreeze right And it would take a long time
1:50:29
for these guys to die. They'd be sick. Oh, Lord,
1:50:32
what's wrong with nobody could figure it out? And one
1:50:33
day they woke up dead. And that's pretty much what
1:50:36
she was doing. She said that her last victim was
1:50:39
in 2023. His name was, I'm going to try to
1:50:42
pronounce his name. I think it's pronounced, um, He had
1:50:49
complained to family members that Akhbari had been forcing him
1:50:54
to take medications and died shortly thereafter. So, you know,
1:50:59
if Trump wants to get the next regime knocked off,
1:51:02
maybe he should turn her loose on them. Also, if
1:51:05
somebody's forcing you to take medications, run! Run. It's not
1:51:10
a good idea. My favorite one of the stories that
1:51:14
was not too long ago, it was an Asian couple
1:51:16
where allegedly the husband then told the wife because they
1:51:20
were having a problem with some kind of credit. It
1:51:23
may have been ants. Like, oh, we'll mix this in
1:51:27
a coffee mug or whatever. And then we had her
1:51:31
on video doing that and then claim that she was
1:51:34
poisoning him to try to put her in jail over
1:51:38
the whole bit. And the wife's like, no, he told
1:51:41
me to put the poison into the mug. At which
1:51:43
point? Who do you believe? Yeah. Yes. Could be either
1:51:46
way. Could just be somebody smart enough. That's like, well,
1:51:49
okay. I was putting poison into his coffee mug. Oh,
1:51:52
he told me to do it. Cause we, we had,
1:51:54
we had ants. Good ants. I don't want ants. You
1:51:58
do not want ants. And just a quick AI story
1:52:00
before we have a boots on the ground. Cause this,
1:52:04
if you fly, you're, This is terrifying what's going on
1:52:10
in Canada. From the outside, it's pretty clear. This is
1:52:13
not the air traffic control tower you're used to. Because
1:52:17
controllers are elsewhere, maybe even in another city. You can
1:52:21
start seeing movement, so it helps our air traffic controllers
1:52:24
and our traffic services staff be able to pick out
1:52:27
the things that are relevant to them. NAV Canada says
1:52:29
this is the future. Remote air traffic control with new
1:52:32
high-tech features. It's the same level of service that we
1:52:34
end up providing. Essentially, all we're doing is we're taking
1:52:37
the visual view of someone looking out a window replacing
1:52:41
that with a digital view onto screens. Super exciting time
1:52:44
obviously. Ottawa's Kongsberg Geospatial designed the system and says it
1:52:49
will provide access to services in remote community just as
1:52:52
it has in the home of its parent company, Norway.
1:52:55
As we're seeing the development an implementation of ai into
1:52:59
more and more technology this is another great example where
1:53:03
the system can continue to learn you know what am
1:53:06
i looking at what are the aircrafts what are the
1:53:08
weather conditions what could go wrong larry it's we're going
1:53:12
to take the the tower from your local airport yeah
1:53:15
and we're going to consolidate it and put it Now,
1:53:20
I understand putting some of these tools into effect, but
1:53:27
moving people to a remote location means really bad things
1:53:33
can happen. I understand the staffing issue. I think we've
1:53:38
got people that are responding to this. Travelers at the
1:53:41
Ottawa airport aren't so sure. Don't like it. I would
1:53:45
rather people looking out a window. The more you put
1:53:48
stuff like this in, the more it screws up. All
1:53:52
right? You need the human factor, regardless. Hamilton Airport with
1:53:57
300,000 travelers a year will be the first fully remote
1:54:01
location, and those air traffic controllers have been asked to
1:54:04
move to Kingston. The union is concerned they might leave
1:54:08
the field instead. And attrition is only, I say quote-unquote
1:54:13
only, you know, 10 or 20 percent We can't afford
1:54:17
to lose a single air traffic controller right now in
1:54:19
Canada. NAV Canada says this change could be part of
1:54:23
the solution. When fully operational, up to 15 airports could
1:54:27
be remotely monitored from Kingston. It provides more flexibility in
1:54:30
our staffing in the long run. NAV Canada says that
1:54:33
it won't be moving to Hamilton, until a year of
1:54:37
shadow testing in Kingston shows no possible issues and until
1:54:41
all regulatory hurdles are cleared. With the stakes for all
1:54:45
involved so high, whether this comes to an airport near
1:54:49
you remains up in the air. I see what you
1:54:52
did there up in the air, up in the air.
1:54:54
Now that's shadow testing. Does that include airliners with real
1:54:58
people on board? Well, of course, because what this would
1:55:01
be is you're going to have the remote unit monitoring
1:55:06
and doing their job. Yeah. Not actually communicating with the
1:55:11
airplanes, but having this be a simulation kind of. But
1:55:17
one, I don't think a year is a long enough
1:55:19
time to understand everything that can possibly go wrong. With
1:55:24
that said, I don't know if anybody's still just literally
1:55:26
looking out a window. These are usually all. No. On
1:55:30
instrumentation, which I understand you can go remotely. It kind
1:55:38
of reminds me like what MLB did when they started
1:55:42
going to New York for certain plays like, oh, no,
1:55:45
we need to we need to do a video replay.
1:55:47
Let's get New York on the phone. This is interesting
1:55:50
because I saw a story earlier today that the biggest
1:55:55
siphon of current air traffic controllers are video game developers.
1:56:01
They like the way these guys operate, and they're the
1:56:04
ones that are taking them off of the flight towers,
1:56:07
which is kind of kooky. So there you go. It's
1:56:10
a tie-in. It is a very, one, it's a very
1:56:14
stressful job. There's no question about it. The more I've
1:56:20
been watching a few different channels that show the problems
1:56:26
that have been going on in major airports around the
1:56:29
country and around the world and, It's amazing what some
1:56:33
of these controllers can do and pilots. It's amazing when
1:56:38
they totally are able to keep their cool, even though
1:56:42
they know the situation that they're in is not very
1:56:47
good. With that said, you want to keep a human
1:56:53
being If the lines get cut between the airport that's
1:56:58
being serviced and the remote location. Now, again, I understand
1:57:03
adding a bunch of new equipment to a local, but
1:57:07
I do the tower that's there. But when you try
1:57:10
to take everything and move it remote. That line somehow
1:57:14
gets cut. You're going to have big problems. Sure. But
1:57:17
of course, what they're going to want is just pure
1:57:19
AI. That'll be the next. Yeah. How? How will run
1:57:23
all? It'll just sound like watching the AI allegedly. Who's
1:57:27
going to fall asleep, just like humans that are in
1:57:29
the car. Once these people that get their Teslas or
1:57:32
the self-driving cars and they're just going along and they're
1:57:34
like, oh, wow, it's been I tried this for two
1:57:36
weeks and it didn't hit anybody. So now I'm just
1:57:39
going to relax. And why not? That's when it drives
1:57:42
you right off the bridge into the Gulf of America,
1:57:44
baby. Or the Strait of America. Yes. We have a
1:57:49
boots on the ground from Sir Darius Unity, Knight of
1:57:52
the Sand Hill People. He says in the morning, thank
1:57:56
you for your courage. Long live Mr. Bud's kill as
1:57:59
well as his legacy. Amen to that. And he said
1:58:02
the best podcast in the universe. And they put no
1:58:04
agenda in parentheses. Thank you, sir. Darius unity discuss data
1:58:08
centers on Thursday's episode. And I remembered my pops and
1:58:12
I did some work on them back in the day
1:58:14
as union electricians. We were in the National Capital Region
1:58:19
with Local 26, and I was an apprentice primarily on
1:58:22
the fire alarm crew. I worked with fellow apprentices in
1:58:26
Charlotte, North Carolina, as an unofficial member of the Local
1:58:31
379 as well. This very spring that just passed to
1:58:34
gather even more treasure slash intel for Gitmo Nation. First,
1:58:39
what I recall from my recent experience, the data centers
1:58:42
are very mums the word as of late. Construction workers
1:58:45
must, if I recall, turn in their phones at the
1:58:48
beginning of the workday or to prevent unauthorized pictures or
1:58:52
info from being made public. Or more plausibly, maybe it
1:58:55
was that they couldn't use their phones while on the
1:58:58
job site. Yeah, they're very. Yeah. sensitive about that stuff
1:59:02
getting out he says if they do they risk getting
1:59:05
an immediate pinky slash pink slip now for what my
1:59:08
pops and i four men told me from his experience
1:59:11
in august or so of 2023 the data centers run
1:59:16
24 7 that they do they have beefed up slash
1:59:20
arm security and they lose out on at least a
1:59:24
million bucks per minute for each and every minute that
1:59:28
they have shut down operations, especially if it's due to
1:59:31
emergency repairs. And I think that's a little high, but
1:59:36
the numbers that I've seen put it as possibly 20,000
1:59:40
plus per second or per minute, which adds up. fairly
1:59:44
quickly if you're out for an hour i mean our
1:59:47
power was out here for over 24 hours so you
1:59:51
know if you're losing 20 000 plus per minute that
1:59:56
is no joke no he says we dealt extremely
2:00:00
with long, heavy, and thickly protected cables and wiring. Oh,
2:00:04
yeah, you have to have shielding on that, especially when
2:00:06
the all-hands call went out randomly. We were often somewhat
2:00:12
confused regarding exactly what our general contactors, clients needed or
2:00:17
wanted from us. Be it in the specs for material
2:00:20
that we were installing or in the necessary tasks in
2:00:24
general, which is also interesting when you're like, well, why
2:00:27
are we doing this? You have to wonder exactly what's
2:00:31
going on. He said, lastly, we had to install smoke
2:00:34
detectors approximately every six feet. And if memory serves, they
2:00:39
had to be drilled into the columns of the structure
2:00:41
holding up the raised flooring. Yeah, these things are built,
2:00:45
so there's a lot of wires going around. Oh, they're
2:00:48
very creepy looking things. And I can guarantee that as
2:00:52
we speak, there are probably half a dozen studios in.
2:00:56
with scripts on their desk with titles like, uh, data
2:00:59
center doom, you know, there's definitely, I mean, it's, it's,
2:01:03
it's just rife with, uh, with terror, these things. And
2:01:07
somebody's going to make a buck off that. Or they're
2:01:09
going to lose a buck. I mean, there's a lot.
2:01:11
Well, that too, yeah. Probably get to this more on
2:01:13
the next show as far as the amount of money.
2:01:17
A lot of people think it's turning into a bubble.
2:01:19
A lot of people don't think any of the... billions
2:01:23
or trillions of dollars that are being raised for these
2:01:26
data centers are actually going to pay off. What does
2:01:30
Harvard say about that? Is there a way to play
2:01:32
that and short these things and make a fortune? Short
2:01:35
certain companies. Yeah. We all know that there are memory
2:01:39
shortages. It's amazing that memory that was worth like nothing
2:01:44
two or three years ago, all of a sudden people
2:01:46
want it because it's still memory. Yeah. And the chip
2:01:49
manufacturers can't keep up. But as we've talked about here.
2:01:56
The reality is, as this AI stuff continues, more and
2:02:02
more will be brought into the home. It will be
2:02:07
brought into small businesses. You can run some very capable
2:02:12
models on hardware that cost money. you know, in the
2:02:17
$10,000 range, which for an average person, they're not going
2:02:20
to pay that to play, you know, chat GPT and
2:02:23
ask it questions. No, but for any company, you know,
2:02:28
Even small businesses. Sure. That is a small bill to
2:02:33
pay rather than paying 50 or 100 bucks a month
2:02:37
for your AI in the cloud and risking your corporate
2:02:42
data. And these things are already to the point to
2:02:45
where they're getting into your own business. location. So these
2:02:50
data centers, what are they going to be used for?
2:02:52
As we talked about with Adam on the last show,
2:02:54
it'd probably be a lot of pickleball courts or something.
2:02:59
The boots on the ground continues. Apologies for wasting so
2:03:02
much time and getting this to y'all dovetailed with the
2:03:05
following. My deep, sincere regrets and remorse that I haven't
2:03:08
been an associate executive producer in well over a year.
2:03:12
It breaks my heart. The Manhattan's he quotes in a
2:03:14
similar manner. My heart was shattered at the passing of
2:03:17
the late, great Mr. John C. Dvorak. And he says,
2:03:21
if y'all would be ever so kind as to mention,
2:03:23
read at least some of this. It was good information,
2:03:25
my friend. Yes. Live to tape episode, no agenda. I'd
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be deeply grateful, thankful, appreciative. No, thank you. He says,
2:03:32
love you. Mean it. Little girl. Yay. And love is
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lit. Bless no agenda nation always and forever. God bless.
2:03:40
Keep us all to stay blessed, free and dangerous. Well,
2:03:44
that's the only way we know how to do it.
2:03:46
Indeed. And we love our boots on the ground. I
2:03:49
put out a thing on X. I'm like, you want
2:03:51
to be a podcast? Everybody's like, are you giving up
2:03:53
Larry's spot? I'm like, no, we're looking for people that
2:03:56
can do boots on the ground. Cause while I love
2:03:58
boots on the ground as the one-eyed podcaster, I'm Reading
2:04:02
is sometimes a bigger pain in the behind than not.
2:04:07
And we would just like to hear your voice for
2:04:09
people that have the ability to record audio. I'm trying
2:04:14
to get a list of no agenda producers with what
2:04:21
your. expertise lies in like here. We just had our
2:04:26
AI dude. Like, so when the next AI story comes,
2:04:29
I can reach out and be like, Hey, this is
2:04:30
the story. What's, what's your take on it? Be of
2:04:34
the perfect reporter. Like, Hey, what do you make of
2:04:36
this? And we can get the boots on the ground
2:04:39
from people in a way that, Where people can hear
2:04:42
your lovely voices rather than listening to the overly radio
2:04:47
voices of Larry and Derry all day. Is that what
2:04:50
they say about us? Oh, dear. No. They sound too
2:04:54
good. Well, I... Saw a letter that came in that
2:04:58
Adam Ford did that you kind of sound like a
2:05:01
beatnik poet, which. Yeah, I like that. That's kind of
2:05:04
cool. You kind of have that thing going on. Hmm.
2:05:08
Uh, let's get the glove story. And I think that
2:05:10
was one that, uh, the glove story, the gloves, baby.
2:05:13
Yeah. The gloves are interesting and they're dividing people. And
2:05:17
of course that means they're dividing the media. This is,
2:05:21
uh, Something that's been around for a while, which I
2:05:25
think most of the stories are missing out on. They've
2:05:28
been using these in jails. They're basically gloves with batteries
2:05:36
that produce a shock much less than a taser would.
2:05:43
Yes, this is from a Kentucky jail employee showing off
2:05:48
the gloves, which I think is a good primer. Basically,
2:05:51
you put it on just like like any glove, you
2:05:53
know, right now they're off. I can touch it. You
2:05:56
know, they strap on and basically you got a power
2:05:59
button that you hit. It lights up and then it's
2:06:02
active. At that point in time. So I can touch
2:06:05
anywhere on my body if I was to grab hold
2:06:07
of my hand, which I'm not going to do. I've
2:06:09
already experienced it. I don't want to put myself through
2:06:11
it. It doesn't feel the best. Yeah, you don't want
2:06:14
to shock yourself. I'll bet some will. There's going to
2:06:17
be glove fetish freaks that will be buying, you know.
2:06:20
Taking these right off the shelves fast as they can,
2:06:22
no doubt. And the interesting thing was, as he just
2:06:24
pointed out, it needs to make contact with skin, which
2:06:29
means now people can just go head to toe in
2:06:31
like lycra or whatever that material is. Yeah. That would
2:06:35
probably then insulate you from this because it's such a
2:06:38
horrible, dangerous weapon. Mm hmm. It doesn't incapacitate you, but
2:06:43
I've been exposed to this probably 10 to 15 times
2:06:49
myself. And it's, I guess, the best way to describe
2:06:54
it, I mean, it basically takes all your focus off
2:06:57
everything that's going to basically where you're getting grabbed at.
2:06:59
And then as soon as you let go, it's gone.
2:07:01
There's no marks that's left or anything like that. It
2:07:04
lets you get the control of the person to where
2:07:06
you can get them in a safer location and actually
2:07:09
try to gain compliance. And we've had the compliance gloves
2:07:13
now for over. That is a great word. We love
2:07:16
compliance. Compliance gloves. It's always about compliance. Always, yeah. Okay,
2:07:22
that's probably a good art idea. Compliance gloves, make them
2:07:26
snappy. And basically, it has been... Probably one of the
2:07:35
Probably one of the best tools we added. One thing
2:07:37
about, and I'll even show you, one thing about the
2:07:41
gloves themselves is that... They have a button on them.
2:07:45
And again, it doesn't incapacitate a person like a taser.
2:07:48
I'm sure several people have seen taser videos where you
2:07:51
hit somebody and they fall on the ground and stuff
2:07:53
like that. Yeah, it can get stiff. This has no
2:07:56
incapacitation with it. I wonder, I didn't do enough research
2:08:00
here. Nobody is telling people. exactly what the charge is
2:08:05
no that you're getting so it's enough to to make
2:08:10
you stop resisting allegedly allegedly allegedly i have my doubts
2:08:17
about this i really do well yeah the guys on
2:08:19
like bath salts or something we've seen enough videos where
2:08:22
tasers didn't work Didn't work. Sure. And then when I
2:08:25
saw this thing first mentioned online, it was in reference
2:08:28
to apparently, allegedly, ICE has bought many hundreds or thousands
2:08:32
of pairs of these things that could be using. Which,
2:08:36
you know, any day now, somebody from MS Now will
2:08:39
be reporting that these are, in fact, a wearable firing
2:08:43
squad. That's how they're going to characterize this stuff. CNN's
2:08:47
already doing it. Oh, there you go. Okay. And again,
2:08:50
the reality is this is less than a taser. That
2:08:55
much is clear. So less lethal than what they already
2:08:59
have. So this is trying to appease a greater majority
2:09:05
of. of the population by having a way to do
2:09:10
the job without doing massive damage. And but still, it's
2:09:15
going to be Trump bad, Trump bad, Trump bad, ICE
2:09:18
is evil. Well, the gloves in theory and GLOVE is
2:09:23
for generated low output voltage emitter. So it's glove. I
2:09:29
know. I mean, whoever comes up with the acronyms, I
2:09:32
have to give them credit on that one. That was
2:09:34
pretty good. Yeah. glove. The gloves generically are a tool.
2:09:39
You put them on, they're sort of an on-off switch,
2:09:43
so if you touch someone, they may not feel it.
2:09:46
When you turn it on, they're going to get a
2:09:47
voltage that's described as sort of an intense bee sting.
2:09:50
They're not supposed to do it for longer than 15
2:09:52
seconds. So this may be helpful, and I will say
2:09:57
that the The devices have mostly been used
2:10:00
at least from the public record, the company is not
2:10:02
speaking now, at least from the public record, in confined
2:10:06
situations, a jail. That may make sense because there's really
2:10:10
no freedom of movement. There's no freedom at all in
2:10:13
jails, madam, but... Very little. Well, you know that these
2:10:16
things are going to find their way very quickly into
2:10:19
schools and subway stations and crowded buses. It's going to
2:10:23
be. It's going to be. Right. Well, right. For law
2:10:26
enforcement. OK. Now, for other people, you're going to be
2:10:29
committing battery if you do this. Yeah. This is Juliette
2:10:33
Kayyem, the CNN analyst. Go forward to ICE and where
2:10:38
we are now. This is asking for intense trouble for
2:10:43
the American public. Intense trouble for American public. ICE is
2:10:49
not known for de-escalation. Oh, but wait, this isn't indeed.
2:10:54
Okay. ice is not known yes for de-escalation she says
2:11:02
yeah but this is a tool that is way below
2:11:07
the threshold of what they've had before which would show
2:11:12
that in good faith anybody again if you had logic
2:11:17
would understand that this is a step towards de-escalization because
2:11:23
this is like a bee sting rather than you getting
2:11:27
hit with the electric shock coming off a capacitor on
2:11:31
your TV. No. If they were serious about this, Darren,
2:11:35
they would issue every squad of ICE guys out. pocket
2:11:40
watches with chains and a competent hypnotist. And that's how
2:11:45
to make people compliant. Just sit them down, swing that
2:11:48
watch. They'll do what you say. I don't know if
2:11:52
that would work. The, oh, you're getting sleepy. That's it.
2:11:55
Some audio, too. Yeah, now you got it. You're on
2:11:57
board. You're getting very sleepy. That's what I'm talking about.
2:11:59
Stop rushing me with that gun. No, no! Right, that's
2:12:03
exactly the problem. Oh, but these gloves are bad. The
2:12:07
rules of engagement for ICE are not understood. And with
2:12:12
this mandate from the White House of... The rules of
2:12:15
engagement for ICE are not understood. If somebody tries to
2:12:20
mess with them, they will use the glove. And more.
2:12:27
200, 2000 arrests a day. Yeah. Oh, a day, 2000
2:12:32
arrests a day. That's too many. Let's not talk about
2:12:35
the fact that how many million people came in under
2:12:37
Joey because he said, hey, come on in. Let's not
2:12:40
talk about how crime rates actually seem to have gone
2:12:42
down in some major cities, which I cannot prove it.
2:12:45
You cannot prove it. Nobody can prove it yet. But
2:12:47
it seems it's possible that violent gang members that are
2:12:51
being sent back to their mother country maybe is one
2:12:55
of the reasons why it's safer to walk around some
2:12:58
places in the United States now. Could be. You are
2:13:02
now have sort of issued ice to sort of go
2:13:04
around, touch people and zap them and say that they're
2:13:07
not compliant. We know I just say they can always
2:13:11
say they weren't compliant, madam. But before they could shoot
2:13:15
them or kill them or do something like that. Now
2:13:18
they're going to get a little owie. I mean, this
2:13:22
is just insanity. The fact that the reality of this
2:13:26
system is you're not doing any damage to somebody because
2:13:31
of this glove. Yeah. I'm going to be direct here.
2:13:35
We know ice lies. Oh, I'm going to be direct
2:13:37
here. We know ice lies. Oh, I bet you. That
2:13:40
was very direct. So direct. Yeah. Of course, I slide.
2:13:44
This is again. OK, give us the list of where
2:13:48
ice, which is a not a person, of course. Where
2:13:51
has ice lied? Where has ice touched you on the
2:13:54
doll? That's it. They've been shown to lie to have.
2:13:58
And so this they have that CNN. They have. Could
2:14:02
be a real danger for the American public. They have
2:14:04
been shown to lie in court. And so, you know,
2:14:08
judges have made those made that very plain and clear.
2:14:12
I do want to ask you about because we've talked
2:14:15
about this before, but it with this extra tool, when
2:14:18
you consider the idea that there is a quota. Most
2:14:22
departments have gotten rid of these, right? I mean, this
2:14:25
was a whole big thing with law enforcement many, many
2:14:28
decades ago. And now that it's back for ICE and
2:14:31
ICE only, generally speaking, what does this do to law
2:14:34
enforcement agents when they have this thing sitting over their
2:14:38
head that, oh, we need to get 2000 per day?
2:14:42
Yeah, it's a... Wait a minute. She's saying that these
2:14:45
gloves go back for decades? Is that correct? No, she's
2:14:48
just talking about quotas in law enforcement. Oh, all right.
2:14:52
I mean, the reality is the only reason the quota
2:14:55
of the around $2,000 a day is there... Is because
2:15:00
they started with so many millions of people that they
2:15:03
had to get rid of. And this is nothing different
2:15:07
than having a job. You work at a factory, you
2:15:10
know, and you need to get X amount out. Well,
2:15:13
you put a number on it. You say, well, here's
2:15:16
our goal. Here's what we're trying to do. There's no
2:15:19
like, well, if we don't get this amount of people,
2:15:20
something happens. It's just, hey, this right now is the
2:15:24
level we want to be at. But it doesn't mean
2:15:27
they're rounding up people that don't deserve it. They're like,
2:15:30
oh, no, they're not criminals. Oh, you mean are they
2:15:32
here illegally? Well, then technically... Holman did respond to the
2:15:38
glove kerfuffle, if you will. Oh, let's see what Tom
2:15:41
said. And look, there is no reason for it. I
2:15:44
mean, bottom line, you're right. It's just politics. It's sanctuary
2:15:48
jurisdiction. Over a decade, I can't think of the hundreds
2:15:53
of... of cases like this has happened. It's just one
2:15:56
case after another after another. We'll talk about this today
2:15:59
and tomorrow. Then we'll move on. The next week there'll
2:16:02
be another one in some other place, another sanctuary stay.
2:16:05
And what really upset me, the response from the governor's
2:16:07
office, was that, well, ICE has billions of dollars. They
2:16:10
should be doing their job. We did our job. We
2:16:13
located this person in their facility. We did an investigation,
2:16:17
found out he is an illegal in the United States.
2:16:19
He has a criminal history. He is deportable. So we
2:16:22
issued a detainer. Ask him then... to notify us before
2:16:26
they release them. Now, I don't care about sanctuary policies.
2:16:30
They say, we can't honor detainers. We don't think they're
2:16:32
legal. There's nothing illegal. There's nothing against the sanctuary law
2:16:35
in California for a deputy to just pick the phone
2:16:38
up and say that, hey, this guy's being released in
2:16:41
an hour. You don't have to hold him one minute.
2:16:44
longer than you would normally hold them, just call us
2:16:47
before we release them. It's common sense. So this person's
2:16:50
dead because Governor Newsom in the state of California puts
2:16:54
politics, hatred over President Trump, over public safety. So look
2:16:59
at what California has done to hurt you guys, to
2:17:02
curb ICE enforcement. They make ICE agents easier to sue.
2:17:05
They're banning cops from moonlighting for ICE, restricting ICE courthouse
2:17:09
arrests, taxing immigrants' detention profits, banning masks for federal agents.
2:17:14
They're doing everything possible to make your job harder. Now,
2:17:17
think about if you're the family of that 68-year-old or
2:17:19
that 60-year-old. that 68 year old, how do you feel
2:17:22
today? Shake to your stomach that your government lets you
2:17:26
down. The state government lets you down. Look, they put
2:17:28
a lot of roadblocks up. They try to make our
2:17:30
job more difficult. But the bottom line is, of June
2:17:32
of this year, ICE made more arrests than any time
2:17:35
in the history of ICE. A historic month in June.
2:17:39
What do we do the next month in July? We
2:17:41
blew June out of the water. We got another historic
2:17:43
record. We're going to keep doing our job. You can
2:17:45
make it more difficult. You can impede. You can interfere.
2:17:49
But you're not going to stop President Trump from keeping
2:17:51
his promise to American people. And I think he's right
2:17:55
there. Yeah, let's hope so. You're not going to keep
2:17:58
Donald Trump from doing what he wants to do, whether
2:18:01
you like him or not. And the whole thing with
2:18:05
these gloves, I don't understand because they seem to be
2:18:08
gentle enough. If you're like, well, the guy's like, I've
2:18:12
accidentally touched myself a few times. That sounded dirty. But
2:18:14
hey. If it didn't knock him out, well, what's the
2:18:17
problem? Yeah. Do you have any more stories for us
2:18:21
today, or should we thank some people for... Let's thank
2:18:24
some people, yeah. I'm going to show my support by
2:18:27
donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could
2:18:30
do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No
2:18:33
Agenda. In the morning We need things like artwork, man.
2:18:56
This was a hell of a week for art. You
2:19:00
have all sorts of ways to give us boots on
2:19:02
the ground, support the show. It is your no agenda
2:19:06
show. That's one thing I picked up from Adam years
2:19:08
ago where it was always like, well, this is your
2:19:11
no agenda show. It's like, well, what do you mean
2:19:13
by that? Yeah. Yeah. It means it is the producers
2:19:17
running the show. Everybody's a producer. The podfather actually seems
2:19:22
to be enjoying being a producer of the show. Imagine
2:19:26
that. He really is. He says he likes listening to
2:19:29
us. He may be. He listened to Planet Rage. That
2:19:33
is why we are here right now is because he.
2:19:35
True. Listened to Planet Rage, and he liked it. You
2:19:38
can also get over into the troll room. Let's see.
2:19:41
15, 20. 15, 20. Oh, there they are. 902 for
2:19:48
a high. That's not bad. I mean, for us. I
2:19:51
mean, for Adam and John, John would be like, ah,
2:19:54
that's not enough. Of course. For us, we need everybody
2:19:58
to bring one.
2:20:00
friend with them. No, bring two friends too. That would
2:20:03
be better. Yes. The troll room is available over at
2:20:07
no agenda dot stream. But if you have a podcasting
2:20:09
2.0 app, you're notified when the shows go live, a
2:20:13
bunch of shows use it. And it's great because a
2:20:15
lot of people enjoy. listening live because you don't know
2:20:19
what's going to happen. Some shows will edit things. They're
2:20:21
like, oh no, what did they say? If somebody rage
2:20:24
quits, you might miss out on all the fun. Yeah.
2:20:28
So you go over to know agenda.stream, you listen live,
2:20:31
you get a podcasting 2.0 app. You take part in
2:20:34
the troll room shenanigans. And if you are, able to
2:20:40
prompt an AI, or maybe if you're a real artist,
2:20:43
we'd love the real artist. I know for me, the
2:20:45
guy that is the AI prompt jockey I like the
2:20:50
real art. And a lot of people that are like,
2:20:53
I don't think this guy ever listened to No Agenda.
2:20:55
It's like, go to the No Agenda Art Generator. I'm
2:20:57
only behind Nick the Rat in Art Wins. They're like,
2:21:01
this guy's never actually listened to the show. Ha ha
2:21:04
ha. I was sleeping through it. I bet you that
2:21:06
was the issue. Oh, Mike Riley's coming in today. Oh,
2:21:09
man, he's good. That's good. We like that. People are
2:21:11
going to have to up their game. The piece that
2:21:15
we chose, and we knew it was going to be
2:21:19
very controversial. Right. That's exactly what it was. And we
2:21:26
had a conversation about it and I got a email
2:21:31
from a, I think it was a Viscount that was
2:21:34
like, you know, that was JCD would never have let
2:21:36
that go through because it was grotesque. And I'm like,
2:21:39
I know, I know it was a bit grotesque. It
2:21:43
was from fret pound who this was when number one.
2:21:47
Which it was the very carnival looking with the Barker
2:21:51
and then the pregnant woman. Fauci was the carnival. Fauci
2:21:56
was the carnival Barker. Oh, is that okay? I could
2:21:58
see that. That's a Fauci. It looks even more insane
2:22:02
than Fauci does normally. Yeah, but that was him. I
2:22:05
lived with it like a walking stick. Any of the
2:22:07
striped jacket on the straw boater hat. Yeah, it was
2:22:10
perfect. And he's like, the number was 82, not 84.
2:22:13
I'm like, I know there was a little bit of
2:22:15
artistic license. It's okay. But when the overall vibe. And
2:22:23
since it was a cartoonish, you can get away with
2:22:26
a little bit more. It wasn't clinical. It was an
2:22:30
interpretation. You know, the other ones, you know, the guy
2:22:34
with the cat from Dr. Evil, the. The bears and
2:22:39
the horses fighting. Scaramanga, I had a couple. Like, Birka
2:22:43
Beach. Yes. I mean, we figured if we were going
2:22:48
to go grotesque, you may as well really jump into
2:22:51
it. Yeah, we felt we just should take a chance
2:22:54
and unsettle you a little bit. And apparently we did.
2:22:57
And CSB, all the naked women are nice, but they're
2:23:01
probably not going to get picked. No. When I see
2:23:04
the naked bodies, I hear John saying, no, cheesecake. Cheesecake
2:23:08
is okay, but they need to be clothed, CSB. Yes.
2:23:13
And the burka, burka, burka from Scaramanga we dug. Yes.
2:23:18
But it took everybody like a half hour to realize
2:23:21
she was sitting on cauliflower rather than like, what is
2:23:24
that? What is that? It's got to be simplistic. If
2:23:27
we not learned anything, the simple joke goes, I was
2:23:31
almost going to go with the CSB's eyepatch guy because
2:23:34
it was less. offensive than the Carnival Barker one, but
2:23:40
Larry convinced me. He's like, no, no, that one's more
2:23:42
eye-catching, and you want to be eye-catching. I'm like, well,
2:23:45
we could go to in evergreen but then the artist
2:23:48
will never throw anything in because i'll be like you
2:23:50
didn't pick my art and then then i threatened to
2:23:53
just make my own art and put it up there
2:23:55
like i can do it i i can do it
2:23:57
i i've won however i'm only behind nick the rat
2:24:00
if you go to the leaderboard you'll see nick the
2:24:03
rat 193 me 141 so wow wow Good for you,
2:24:08
Darren. Nick the Rat will go down in history as
2:24:12
the number one no agenda artist, unless somebody really, really
2:24:17
comes out of nowhere. So thank you, Fret Pound. It
2:24:20
is very much appreciated. Time, talent, and treasure. We got
2:24:26
to keep the lights on. Got to keep the microphones
2:24:29
humming. So you got to send a Darren and Larry
2:24:32
donation. I mean, just tell us the Darren and Larry
2:24:34
donation. We want to hear more of those guys. Yes,
2:24:36
please. But we have a few people to thank for
2:24:40
today's show. We have the executive producers, which is anything
2:24:45
over three hundred and thirty three dollars. It's a number
2:24:49
that everybody enjoys. And let me pull up the right
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screen here. The first one coming in with $1,888.88. That's
2:25:01
one heck of a number. It is. Mike, the privileged
2:25:05
taco salad, which I've heard a lot of good nicknames.
2:25:09
That's great. The privileged taco salad. says dear Amy dear
2:25:15
Adam Mimi and the Dvorak family in the morning spelled
2:25:19
M-O-U-R-N-I-N-G after listening to show 1888 I discovered that I
2:25:25
must have been living under a rock for most of
2:25:27
my life when my buddy Gary hit me in the
2:25:30
mouth back around episode 1357 I He mentioned the podcast
2:25:35
was done by John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry. My
2:25:39
response was, John who? I knew who Adam was from
2:25:43
MTV, but I had never heard of JCD. I was
2:25:46
hooked from the start and have not missed any shows
2:25:49
since. I learned quickly that the both of you know
2:25:52
what you're talking about and set feelings and thoughts straight
2:25:56
in my mind. That is one of the greatest things
2:25:59
about no agenda. Yes. I like finding people who think
2:26:03
the way that I do. I have questioned things that
2:26:07
the mainstream media reports for as long as I can
2:26:09
remember. One instance is when George W. Bush was president
2:26:14
and Gerhard Schroeder was the German chancellor. The American news
2:26:20
was claiming and quoting things that Schroeder was saying, and
2:26:24
the German news was quoting things and saying what George
2:26:27
Bush was saying. I just happened to be learning German
2:26:30
at the time, and I picked up on what was
2:26:32
being translated and can only go, no, that's not what
2:26:36
he said from both sides. The news was embellishing the
2:26:40
reports. Imagine that. What? Gambling? Round up the usual suspects.
2:26:46
Exactly. And this is especially when things get translated. You
2:26:49
know. Go ahead. There's going to be funny things going
2:26:52
on. He continues. I, like you and JCD, am also
2:26:56
a jack of all trades and a master of none.
2:26:59
I have donned a lot of different hats in my
2:27:01
life and know quite a bit by doing so. Again,
2:27:04
you two showed me that there are others who are
2:27:07
like me. Past nicknames were hazmat Mike. Out of scope,
2:27:11
Mike and rock and roll, Mike, just to name a
2:27:14
few. experiencing the love that was shared for JCD was
2:27:18
amazing. And I am proud to be able to be
2:27:21
a part of such a great group. Gitmo nation rocks.
2:27:25
Yeah. It's even better than schoolhouse rocks. Definitely. I do
2:27:29
hear John grousing at me for the length of this
2:27:31
note. So I will close it by saying, God bless
2:27:34
you all. And then he has met Ville, Libe and
2:27:39
LA, which I had to look up, which I know
2:27:41
I butchered. It means with much love to you all
2:27:44
in German. He says, Mike, the privileged taco salad, PS,
2:27:49
Kudos to Larry and Darren for their filling in. I
2:27:52
have to admit that I visualized Tommy Chong when Larry
2:27:55
speaks and lost it when he said, dude, maybe you
2:27:59
do have a Tommy Chong thing going on. Really? So
2:28:02
I'm either a beatnik poet or I'm a Tommy Chong.
2:28:05
Wow. Or a total stoner. That's quite a span. Yes.
2:28:08
Yeah. Jeez. Jeez. He says, PPS, please accept my $1,888.88
2:28:13
donation in honor of JCD. We do. Thank you very
2:28:17
much. And then handwritten at the bottom, which I want
2:28:20
to let you know, my AI got right. Type is
2:28:24
better than my chicken scratch. But hey, if the AI
2:28:28
can tell what it is, that's all that really matters.
2:28:32
Thank you very much. I guess he's already a knight.
2:28:35
If there's any title change or anything, please let us
2:28:39
know. But thank you, Mike, for the privileged taco salad.
2:28:44
Thank you, Mike. Next up is Dr. Don and Dame
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Audra. 333.88 from places unknown but there's a jingle request
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to Darren, it's a double up beep You've got... See,
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there was none, but I just had to make myself
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a note to remember and get it. So it can
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be quick like the podfather. Up next, Manuka Gold from
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Hudson, Florida. $250. From the Manuka Gold family, we're always
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the entire month of August. And we're still doing the
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is ManukaGold.com. And I can attest, this stuff is really
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good. Have you gotten yours yet? Have you got your
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address to them? Did you let them know where they
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find you? I haven't, but I promise I'll, because I'm
2:29:48
a honey freak and I can't wait. So, yes, thank
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you for the reminder. It is fantastic stuff. Next up
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is Brandon Baldwin of Manteca, California. 222
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22. See note from. It might have gone to the
2:30:06
wrong address. Went astray, huh? Yes. Make sure you send
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in the note to notes at no agenda dot com.
2:30:14
The back office said they haven't received it yet or
2:30:17
any note, Brandon. So. Yeah. Send it again to notes
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at no agenda. Wait, I'm sorry. You must have sent
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it to no agenda.com. It is no agenda show. Not
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notes at no agenda show. Dot net notes at no
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agenda show. Dot net. And we will do a make
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good for you. Definitely. Next episode. Then coming in Stefan
2:30:40
truckles from Seuss, Denmark. I guess I'll go with that.
2:30:46
Hi, gents. I know he's donated to our other shows.
2:30:49
I just, you know, I'm blanking on where these from.
2:30:52
Hi, gents. Much appreciated that the two of our producers
2:30:54
moved from Brunetti like backroom producing to, to being off
2:30:59
cam news models. Well, I mean, we are very pretty
2:31:03
stuff on, I mean, you know that at least Larry
2:31:04
is, I have to wear the eye patch. I'm gorgeous.
2:31:08
He says, I would like to request any jingle with
2:31:12
love in the title, except love you mean it. Um,
2:31:18
um, That is an interesting request. Yes. And his donation
2:31:23
was 2-21-17. Bye. Mmm. Had love in it. Thank you,
2:31:41
Stefan. Next up is Eli the Coffee Guy. And I'm
2:31:47
so excited, Darren. Guess what? He's got my address and
2:31:50
he's sending me some of that fabulous gigawatt coffee. Oh,
2:31:53
you're going to be wired. I am. He's from Bensonville,
2:31:56
Illinois, 208.16, and Eli says, Gentlemen, I read the newsletter
2:32:02
and figured the Strait of Hormuz sovereignty line was you
2:32:06
guys having a laugh. Some snide throwaway. Then I saw
2:32:10
some news articles with Trump trolling that pretty soon he'll
2:32:13
declare it a territory of the United States. It's hard
2:32:16
to tell a bit from the news anymore. Life often
2:32:19
imitates comedy. Thanks for the laughs and great media deconstruction.
2:32:23
For producers who want great coffee, visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use
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code ITM20. We're 20% off your order. Stay caffeinated. Eli,
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the coffee guy. Thank you, Eli. Thanks, Eli. I got
2:32:38
to get back to him. Some of the producers, they
2:32:40
want to do a Saturday meetup in September. Oh, that's
2:32:43
exciting. And it's either they want to make sure I
2:32:46
never do another show or they want to say congratulations.
2:32:50
I'm not too sure which yet. You'll find out. But
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coming in next with $200, Linda Lupatkin from Castle Rock,
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Colorado, says, Jobs, karma, of course, your resume has about
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winning resumes. You've got. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Jobs. Karma.
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Don Mills of Shasta Lake, California donated $200. And Don
2:33:42
says, keep the best podcast in the universe going. Glad
2:33:45
to hear the media deconstruction will continue. Well, thank you,
2:33:49
Don. Yeah, we're planting the flag just like on D-Day.
2:33:52
We're just putting it up there, daring anybody to come
2:33:55
take it. Up next, Brenda Forcade is, I think... Paulsboro,
2:34:01
Washington came in with $200. No, no. These are the
2:34:06
associate executive producers. Thank you very much, Brenda. Next up,
2:34:11
Anonymous gave $200 from Parts Unknown. And whoever you are,
2:34:17
Anonymous, we thank you very much. Then also with 200,
2:34:21
Sir Lawrence of Dystopia says, In the morning, Darren and
2:34:26
Larry, as you read this, our northern Silicon Valley in
2:34:28
the morning of John meetup will be in the rearview
2:34:30
mirror. Thanks go out to Pizzeria Violetta, Sir Crazy Recalcitrant
2:34:37
Steve, and the Dvorak's in attendance for the gathering of
2:34:41
the roundtable. No agenda nation lives on. Thank you for
2:34:45
taking the helm during the interim. Regardless of how the
2:34:48
show will morph in the future, I am convinced that
2:34:52
with all the time, The multi-universe of talent that is
2:34:55
the No Agenda Producers Network. The show will go on
2:34:59
as we are currently having an ant battle at our
2:35:03
redoubt in Maxwell Park. May I please get an I've
2:35:10
Got Ant. And this I loved. He said, I thank
2:35:13
you for your curr. rage. Oh, no doubt. A little
2:35:17
nod to the planet rage podcast that Larry and I
2:35:20
came from for five years. Sir Lawrence of dystopia, Baron
2:35:25
of Maxwell park. I got ants. Yeah. Thank you. Like
2:35:34
a dance. There we go. Next up is Sir Swiss
2:35:41
Senna from Wadden's Will, Zurich, Switzerland. $104.69. I just made
2:35:48
a PayPal payment of US dollars 104.69, which is the
2:35:53
equivalent to 88.88 Swiss francs in honor of JCD. In
2:35:58
my 63 years, I cried twice over the death of
2:36:01
a well-known person. The first time was when the musician
2:36:04
Prince died on April 21, 2016, and now when I
2:36:08
learned of the passing of Buzzkill. As the occasional organizer
2:36:13
of the Swiss meetup, I decided the producers of my
2:36:16
region should meet again in Zurich at the cozy rooftop
2:36:19
bar near the main station on Saturday, August 29. I
2:36:24
remember the discussion between the two of you, if I
2:36:27
would be eligible for the title of Black Knight. And
2:36:30
in the end, you gave it to me. I wear
2:36:32
it with pride, just like my ceiling ring. I wish
2:36:35
you all the best, the Dvorak family, the Curry family,
2:36:38
and the two good souls who generously took over the
2:36:41
mics for the time being. I'm curious of what the
2:36:43
future will bring for my favorite podcast, the best podcast
2:36:47
in the universe. Best regards, Sir Swiss Senna. Yeah, thank
2:36:52
you very much. And Sir Robertson of Two Sticks up
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next from Dos Palos, California, came in with $101.79. Thank
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you very much. Alan Bean of Beaverton, Oregon, $100. No,
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no, but thank you, Alan. And then our buddy Timothy
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Heasel coming in with $100 from Hanford, California. No, no.
2:37:15
Thank you very much. Anonymous is back with $100. There's
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a lot of them. There's a lot of them. Thank
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you. Then Sir Dude Named Benonymous coming in with $100.
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Thank you very much. The Lockwoods, $100 from We Not
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Know Not Where. No, thank you, The Lockwoods. Also with
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$100, Angela Garcia, San Francisco, California. Thank you. M. Andrew
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Jones, Baron of America's Mountain, Viscount of the Very Fine
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People. 88.88, no note. Thank you, Viscount Jones. And he
2:37:52
writes books. He has some interesting stuff. Oh, cool. Kevin
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McLaughlin. Oh, there he is. Concord, North Carolina. The 80-08
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donation. 18-95 boob donation from the Archduke of Luna, lover
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of America. And boobs. Thank you, sir. A. Blexrud of
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Austin, Texas donated $80.08. Thank you. A Bucks Rudd. And
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Les Tarkowski yet again with the $60.06, no doubt, Route
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66 donation from Kingman, Arizona. It is very much appreciated.
2:38:28
Thank you. Eric Ortega of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, 55.67.
2:38:34
He says, keep up the great work. We will try.
2:38:37
And thank you, Eric. Up next, James Edmondson came in
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with 55.10, which is double nickels on the dime from
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South Plainfield, New Jersey. Thank you, sir. Craig Nosley of
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Cumberland, British Columbia. $54.30. And Craig says, I'm up to
2:38:55
episode 40. Thank God I've got years worth of JCD
2:38:59
to listen to. And I pray we have years more
2:39:02
with Adam, Larry, and Darren, and Darren, on the best
2:39:05
podcast in the universe. Thank you, Craig. You got to
2:39:08
follow him over on X. He's doing the reviews of
2:39:11
all of the old no agenda starting from episode one.
2:39:15
It's an interesting time capsule to go back and see
2:39:19
how the show has morphed. Up next, Florida Sun Cleaning
2:39:24
with 5272 from Citra, Florida says thank you all from
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Shannon. Thank you. We appreciate it. We do. Sir Recalciton
2:39:34
to Crazy Steve and Dame Rose, Santa Rosa, California, $51.50.
2:39:40
Thank you, sir and Steve and Dame. Alexander Beattie with
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$50.01 from Tomball, Texas. Thank you. Chris Slonowski. No, I'm
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sorry. Chris Slowinski. Forgive me. Sherwood Park, Alberta, California. No,
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no. Canada. What am I saying? Yeah.
2:40:00
um $50 thank you chris then easy landscapes oh yeah
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what did they do we don't know north stonington connecticut
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oh that's a neighbor larry if you need some landscaping
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you go to easy landscapes came in with 50 thank
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you very much thank you philip balu of louisville kentucky
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$50 thank you philip Pamela Bradley with $50 from Tecumseh,
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Oklahoma. Thank you. Chris Cowan of Austin, Texas, $50. Thank
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you, Chris. And we'd like to thank everybody for supporting
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this little show. Again, send in the Darren and Larry
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donation. Send in an 88 if you want to do
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post about it. Let people know about the best damn
2:40:46
podcast in the universe that we're still here. Yep. We're
2:40:50
still going strong. And we have the podfather as a
2:40:54
producer, even on Sunday show. He's always like, can you
2:40:58
imagine if we had him in the little earbud? That
2:41:00
would be fun. That would be fun. We do have
2:41:02
a layaway night for today. And that would be from
2:41:07
Avery Allen. He says, hello to all the No Agenda
2:41:10
family. It's taken me years, but I'm finally here. I'd
2:41:14
like to be known as Sir Avery of Hamilton and
2:41:17
would like nothing special at the roundtable beyond the regular
2:41:21
fair. Well, there's a lot of good stuff there already.
2:41:24
He says deepest and most heartfelt regards. So we could
2:41:29
do that. Let's see. We get the swords out here.
2:41:32
Get those swords out. Mmm. Avery Allen, step right up
2:41:39
to the podium, please. Thanks for your support of the
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No Agenda Show. In the amount of $1,000 or more,
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I am very proud to pronunciate you, Sir Avery of
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Hamilton. Adam said we had to hit you hard. Wow.
2:41:58
From now on. Was he still breathing? God. Lighten up,
2:42:01
Darren. We have the usual hookers and blow, rent boys
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and chardonnay, mutton and me, ginger ale and gerbils, bong
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hits and bourbon, Irish whiskey and Chicago dogs. We have
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2:42:18
handsome No Agenda Knight ring to send in your ring
2:42:21
size and your address. And they will get you your
2:42:24
ring along with the Certificate of Authenticity. And thank you
2:42:28
for supporting the best damn podcast in the universe and
2:42:32
becoming a knight. Of Noah Jenner. And it's okay to
2:42:35
hit them more than once because they're wearing all of
2:42:37
the armor. Right. So it's safe. Yeah. It's perfectly safe.
2:42:43
Nothing to worry about. Yeah, we have a couple of
2:42:54
birthdays to shout out today. Sir Recalcitrant Crazy Steve II
2:42:58
wanted to wish Sir Montauk a happy birthday. That was
2:43:02
yesterday. Yes. And Sir William of West Pensil-Tucky wants to
2:43:07
wish D.C. Girl, we know D.C. Girl, a very happy
2:43:11
birthday on August 18th. We hope it is a great
2:43:15
one. And then, of course, we have a few meetup
2:43:21
reports here because there is a lot of no agenda
2:43:24
meetups going on. No agenda meetups. It is like a
2:43:35
party. It's protection is connection. It's all that and more.
2:43:39
First up, we have the in the morning, Virginia. Thank
2:43:42
you for your courage. JCD meetup. They have a little
2:43:46
note here. Greetings. No agenda. No nation. Thank you for
2:43:49
everyone who came out. For the In the Morning Virginia
2:43:52
and thank you for your courage, JCD meetup. It was
2:43:55
wonderful to see both familiar faces and new ones over
2:43:58
food and drink. We shared memories and stories as we
2:44:02
honor John. We extend our deepest condolences to the Curry
2:44:06
and Dvorak families and also prayers of celebration for the
2:44:10
newest arrivals. In loss, we find new life. These moments
2:44:14
remind us of why the meetups matter so much. Let's
2:44:18
keep this tradition alive because connection is protection. Along with
2:44:24
the attached group photos, and it's a very good-looking group.
2:44:27
They were outside, no masks or anything, Larry. It was
2:44:29
crazy. Wow, that's cool. We're sharing a prayer for the
2:44:33
No Agenda No Nation provided by Navy Chaplain Milo Curtis
2:44:37
from Chesapeake, Virginia. A special thank you to him and
2:44:41
his wife, Bethany, for traveling out for their very first
2:44:44
meetup. Thank you for your courage, Dame Trail Chicken. And
2:44:49
this is the prayer here. All right, go ahead. Yeah,
2:44:52
easy day. All right, let's pray. Lord, we come to
2:44:55
you right now. We lift up the Dvorak family. We
2:44:58
pray for Mimi and the kids and the Currys as
2:45:01
well. And Lord, we're all in this space with one
2:45:04
another because of their faithful service to us over the
2:45:07
years. We pray that your presence would be heavy, would
2:45:09
be felt, your peace would be overwhelming. Amen. Father, I
2:45:13
pray for the No Agenda community across this nation and
2:45:16
around the world. Father, this type of gathering, these type
2:45:20
of friendships, this kind of camaraderie would strengthen souls in
2:45:25
these days. May your presence be felt. Father, may good
2:45:28
things come of it that would accomplish your kingdom purposes.
2:45:32
We pray this in your name. amen amen thank you
2:45:35
thank you so much very nice up next that was
2:45:39
very nice the rockaway beach pickleball meetup i wonder if
2:45:42
that's on an old data center Joseph Liggett says also
2:45:47
really sorry about John. I finally brought myself to listen
2:45:50
to the memorial show and listening to your intro. You
2:45:53
could hear how much the old coot really meant to
2:45:55
you. The no agenda family is grieving with you. Yeah,
2:45:59
I think John meant more to most people than they
2:46:01
realized. Oh, yeah. and has left really big shoes. And
2:46:06
that's coming from a guy with size 15s. It is
2:46:08
impossible and still very strange to be keeping the torch
2:46:14
lit for him. Yep. Hey, this is Joe in Rockaway
2:46:18
Beach doing the meter report. We got Tony and John
2:46:22
here. Say hi. Hi. This is Tony C. I do
2:46:27
name Tony C. RIP JCV This is Johnny C. RIP
2:46:32
John C. Dvorak I've been reading your material ever since
2:46:36
InfoWorld way back in the day Awesome, and here's our
2:46:42
awesome glorious server. Hi, I'm Katie. I'm from Rockaway Beach
2:46:47
Pickleball and Golf. These guys were awesome to have here
2:46:50
today. I really appreciated having their company. Who ya? R.I.P.
2:46:57
J.C.D. I like the Ramones in the background. That makes
2:47:01
a meetup. And then a latecomer, but we got it.
2:47:05
The podfather was trying to sneak one in. He's like,
2:47:07
probably too late for this show. It's never too late.
2:47:10
The Langley BC meetup report. Hey, we're here at the
2:47:15
WWJCDD meetup in Aldergrove. We wanted to think about and
2:47:20
remember John. We had some wine, we had some mac
2:47:24
and cheese, and we remembered a great man. This is
2:47:26
ID Pop, raising a glass of red and dandering some
2:47:30
mac and cheese in honor of John C. In the
2:47:33
morning. In the morning We do have some very talented
2:47:38
producers Indeed There are some upcoming meetups Including we got
2:47:42
an ad from some drunken minstrel Chris Wilson Ooh G'day
2:47:53
punters and producers of the best podcasts in the universe
2:47:56
We're bringing ants back to the Antipodes If you're located
2:48:00
here in old Sydney town Or it's great in metro
2:48:03
region, listen up It's about bloody time we got together
2:48:06
and caught up in real life To honour the late,
2:48:08
great John C. Dvorak And to celebrate that we're all
2:48:11
still here to carry on his legacy We will be
2:48:14
supporting our No Agenda community in the great Aussie tradition
2:48:17
of drinking beer and talking shit. Date is set for
2:48:20
this coming Sunday, 23rd of August in the year of
2:48:23
our Lord, 2026, at our old horn for previous meetups,
2:48:26
the Gasoline Pony, 115 Marrickville Road, Marrickville, at the customary
2:48:31
time of 3.33pm. There are some restrictions for under-18s, so
2:48:36
if you'd like to include your human resources, let me
2:48:39
know, and we can look for an alternative venue nearby.
2:48:41
I'm thinking of the Maritville Bolo. RSVP on No Agenda
2:48:43
Meetups, feel free to call or SMS me any time
2:48:46
for any questions or suggestions. Look forward to catching up
2:48:49
with you all then. In the morning, and thank you
2:48:52
for your courage. No, thank you, sir. Chris Wilson. Yeah,
2:48:57
I love fully produced bits. He's smooth. That's good work.
2:49:02
He does a lot of the great end of show
2:49:04
mixes. And he was kind of overboard for a little
2:49:07
while. So it is a beautiful thing to have him
2:49:10
back. We want to run through these meetups that are
2:49:13
coming up here. Mm hmm. From today, we've got show
2:49:18
day. R.I.P. J.C.D. at 2 p.m. Central at the Dog
2:49:23
House Lounge in Dubuque, Iowa. That sounds like fun. Yeah.
2:49:28
August 16th, the Castle Island Brewery in Norwood, Massachusetts. And
2:49:35
that one's 2.30 Boston time. Yes. We have the TMI
2:49:38
Evacuation Zone Toasted John meet up at 3.30 Eastern at
2:49:43
Evergrain Brewing in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania. Then also the 16th,
2:49:52
the drinking to buzzkill at 4.30 p.m. Pacific time at
2:49:55
the Alibi Room in Vancouver, British Columbia. British Columbia, yes.
2:50:00
Sounds like some partying going on there too. It does.
2:50:02
Yes. And then next show day on Thursday, the Charlotte's
2:50:06
third thirsty Thursday at 7 PM Eastern at Ed's Tavern
2:50:10
in Charlotte, North Carolina. And that is organized by Sir
2:50:14
Kevin Dills, the Archduke of the Carolinas. Beyond that, We
2:50:20
have Richmond, Virginia, August 21st. We have August 22nd, Fort
2:50:24
Wayne, Indiana, Chattanooga, Tennessee, Reno, Nevada, August 23rd, Indianapolis, Indiana,
2:50:31
Benton, Arkansas, Merrickville, New South Wales, Australia. That was the
2:50:37
one Sir Chris was just talking about, I think. um
2:50:40
august 28th maastricht limburg netherlands august 29th nanamio british columbia
2:50:48
canada is that what that is no name on maybe
2:50:52
i don't know and um i'll do the rest of
2:50:55
the 29th albuquerque new mexico rhode island and zurich switzerland
2:51:01
August 30th, Chester Springs, Pennsylvania. On September 6th, Medford Lakes,
2:51:05
New Jersey. September 12th, Boise, Idaho. The 15th is Scottsdale,
2:51:09
Arizona. And the 17th is Charlotte, North Carolina. October 3rd,
2:51:14
Midlands, UK. October 10th, Treasure Island, Idaho. The October 15th,
2:51:18
Charlotte, North Carolina. Um, uh, we're back to October 10th
2:51:23
and Eagle, Idaho, uh, 15th Charlotte. We already had that
2:51:28
one 17th Fredericksburg, Texas, October 24th, Smith Smithville, Texas. The
2:51:35
end as well on the 24th, Los Altos, California. and
2:51:41
Tilburg, the Netherlands. If you don't see your town there
2:51:45
or one close, it's very easy. Start your own. Just
2:51:50
go to noagendameetups.com. to be where you I mean, because
2:52:08
it is actually a party. It is. I've got a
2:52:11
few ISOs for today's show. We're going to get you
2:52:15
to start bringing some ISOs in. I'm going to bring
2:52:17
some ISOs. I promise next time. It's what I always
2:52:19
forget. Still, every show, no matter what, it's clips, clips,
2:52:22
clips. And then it's like, oh, wait, we need ISOs.
2:52:26
Yes. So I've got this one from. Uncle Ted? Okay.
2:52:32
Oh, yeah. Kind of an excited Uncle Ted. Yeah. I've
2:52:38
got Mickey Rourke as a demo Dick Marchinko. But you're
2:52:41
not, baby. Here I come. or stop talking I gotta
2:52:50
say, I kind of like, I dig Mickey because I
2:52:52
dig, uh, you know, demo dick too. What do you
2:52:54
think? Buddy or not, baby, here I come. Yeah. I
2:52:57
think that's a good way. It's kind of like a
2:52:59
fun little game that people can take part in. Yeah.
2:53:02
Yeah. So we will mark that one down and, uh.
2:53:10
We don't normally hear a... We'll do a clip of
2:53:15
the day. Oh, good. Not a clip of the day.
2:53:17
A... I was looking for the tip jingle, but you
2:53:23
know what? We don't need the tip jingle in honor
2:53:26
of JCD. I will just say if you have a
2:53:29
medical bill at a hospital, call them up and ask
2:53:35
for a discount. That's a good tip. That is the
2:53:38
we had. My wife had some tests done when she
2:53:41
was in the ER, went in and you call up
2:53:44
and at our hospital. Anyway, it's easy enough. I'm like,
2:53:47
can you offer me a discount for paying promptly? And
2:53:50
they're like, yeah, we can give you 5%. That's not
2:53:53
bad. Then I'm like, can you do 10? And they
2:53:55
put you on hold for like 30 seconds. Yeah. And
2:53:58
then they always come back and say yes. That's very
2:54:01
good tip. It is a very nice way to save
2:54:05
a little bit of money and whatever you save, of
2:54:07
course, you can donate to the best damn podcast in
2:54:10
the universe. That is going to do it for another
2:54:15
fun edition of the Best Stam Podcast in the Universe.
2:54:18
Coming up next on the Mighty No Agenda stream, we
2:54:23
have live... It is the Battle of the Douchebags Live.
2:54:29
Oh, that's a good show. Well, you've been on that.
2:54:31
I've been on it several times. It's really good. Enjoy
2:54:34
that. Yeah. We have a couple of end-of-show mixes from
2:54:38
Just Baker. We've got one from Sir Chris Wilson. Actually,
2:54:42
I think we have three end-of-show mixes from Just Baker.
2:54:46
So thank you. very much for that. You can always
2:54:49
use more. Send those in. We love the talented producers.
2:54:54
That's for dang sure. Coming to you from just outside
2:54:59
of Chirac, right here in FEMA Region No. 5 in
2:55:01
the morning, everybody, I am Darren O'Neill. And from the
2:55:06
pretentious Connecticut shore, I'm Larry Blydner. We will be back
2:55:10
here on Thursday live on the mighty No Agenda stream,
2:55:14
noagenda.stream. Join us and remember us at noagendadonations.com. Until then,
2:55:20
hooey, hooey. Thank you for your courage and adios, mofos.
2:55:25
and such. I ran just dropped the body count Ooh.
2:55:45
Let it down Kofumak Black widow on a mission Married
2:55:51
up the elderly Temporary permission 10 husbands minimum Maybe 13,
2:55:55
15 I don't remember exactly Classic serial scene Diabetes, meds,
2:56:00
industrial alcohol Pour towel over the face When the pills
2:56:03
don't score Golden dowry stack In process of elimination Looking
2:56:07
for Mr. Right Through pure asphyxiation Temporary Every contract Two,
2:56:11
three months A max Old men dropping Natural until The
2:56:14
pattern tracks My Xander in court Just handed ten Death
2:56:17
sentences One family took The blood and money Rest once
2:56:19
the Consequences Black widow Black widow Still searching For Mr.
2:56:22
I Ten bodies In the rear view Still ain't found
2:56:25
The light Poisoning the teeth Well, in the night I
2:56:34
That's the end of the show. your tire in the
2:57:07
cold soft leather quiet stitch in ordinary until the current
2:57:12
starts to flow no badge flash no baton raise high
2:57:15
just a handshake turned to static they call it de-escalation
2:57:20
soft power while the voltage Value for value. It's time
2:58:12
to dissect the narrative. Shit's wild, son. Then it's a
2:58:15
good thing. There's no commercial break. Homer's height ballroom fight
2:58:21
fever in the text. Media spin the story to the
2:58:24
real ones next. Economic jury temporary tenant flexing. The show
2:58:28
we dissected, lead the rest to rest. Straight, stay blocked
2:58:31
while the headlines flex. Trump claimed total control. I ran,
2:58:34
say, check the checks. Besson's economic, fury cutting while it's
2:58:37
thin. Oil price propaganda, who cash in the spin? Ballroom
2:58:41
blocked by the circuit court. Temporary tenant, media love that
2:58:44
retort. People's house of vanity depends which channel you cart.
2:58:48
You the one decision, scout his next plot. twist bar.
2:58:50
Fever concerns, Fauci texting the vault. Sight the king, storm
2:58:54
theory, public line was no fault. 18 shots down to
2:58:56
11, parental choice to start. Gold standard schedule, media call
2:59:00
it a cold. Lala skirted a big island, floods in
2:59:02
the Midwest. Time is script ready, history never addressed. Lebanon
2:59:06
strikes, children in the lead, Tamosi, smile at theaters. in
2:59:13
the next. We'll reach out the real ones next. and
2:59:18
then flex and the show we've dissected even a rest
2:59:20
of record Get in the morning has brought up is
2:59:43
Austin's growing homeless population. We spoke with a local agency
2:59:47
that says affordable housing is the solution to supporting these
2:59:51
individuals and getting them back on their feet. Ashley Pratt
2:59:54
is joining us now live from downtown Austin with more
2:59:57
tonight. Ashley. She walked into her pocket.
3:00:01
She was the type that you could have cost. That's
3:00:04
when I... Quarter eye She said that she was from
3:00:13
the city. I said, baby, you're way too pretty to
3:00:17
be here. As the junkies all drew near, she said,
3:00:25
I want to help all the homeless people. I want
3:00:28
to house all the homeless people too. I want to
3:00:32
fix all the homeless people. I want to fix homeless
3:00:37
people like you. Well what else could I do? She
3:00:44
was standing in my boot. Homeless individuals are not dangerous.
3:00:49
I asked if she could give me money. I grabbed
3:00:53
her purse, then I started running away. She gave chase.
3:01:03
Under a bridge I found my dealer She caught up
3:01:07
so we had a feel and a rate Well, listen
3:01:14
pretty great i said you want to help all the
3:01:18
homeless people you want to house all the homeless people
3:01:22
you see you want to fix all the homeless people
3:01:26
you want to fix homeless people like me as the
3:01:31
vagrants gathered round She lay unconscious on the ground We'll
3:01:39
grab some junk to ease the pain Take a crap
3:01:54
the streets. at a drugstore services has left more and
3:02:30
more people on the streets. She says it was obvious.
3:02:33
He was mentally unstable. And he kept saying... that I
3:02:36
have to open the door for him so that he
3:02:38
could hurt and kill our concierge because she's a robot.
3:02:42
A homeless man approaches and suddenly smacks her in the
3:02:45
head, dumped feces all over her. A bucket of diarrhea.
3:02:50
It was liquid, hot liquid. I was soaked. You can't
3:02:55
help all the harmless people You'll never house all the
3:02:59
homeless people Big Zora. They're pretty aggressive. Even if you
3:03:17
don't have anything, they kind of come off the roof
3:03:20
sometimes. So, yeah. can't take so long. You can't fix
3:03:30
all the homeless people like me You can't fix all
3:03:33
the homeless people like me You can't fix all the
3:03:37
homeless people like me Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Oh I
3:03:53
ain't shh Let's podcast. Dvorak.org slash N-A. But here not,
3:04:08
baby, here I come.