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Did you go this morning? No. Bad boy. Bad boy.
Adam Curry. It's Sunday, August 23rd, 2026. This is your
award-winning Gipo Nation Media Assassination, episode 1897. This is No
Agenda. In the morning, Gipo Nation, welcome to No Agenda
1897, the best podcast in the universe. And this is
No Agenda version 1. And please welcome back the co-guest
host that we had on the previous episode on Thursday,
the one and only Sir Ducifer, Mr. Rob Duke. In
the morning, everyone. How's everybody doing out there? I hope
I'm coming in loud and clear. Loud and clear, no
delay. Excellent. It was the weirdest thing on the last
show. I'm like, why is Rob so slow? I never
noticed he was a slow thinker, you know? It's like
he always... I'm usually on the ball, ready to interrupt
at a moment's notice. And then I realized later, like,
oh, you know, And I'm like, Rob, do you have
a bad connection or do you have a couple of
tabs open on your browser? Yeah, and I replied back,
well, my browser probably looks like John C. Dvorak's office
at this point. I mean, I am a browser tab
fiend. I have Finder Windows and three browsers open each
one with like, I don't know, 40 windows. So yeah,
we closed all that. Oh, man. You have 40? How
many tabs? You have 40 tabs or 40 windows? I
had, no, probably like... Eight windows with 40 tabs mixed
around total. I mean, now I have three tabs open,
so we're looking good. When you say Windows, what do
you mean? Like file folders? You're on a Mac, right?
I'm on a Mac. So I have Firefox. I have
Safari. I have Brave. You know, I have all the
different browsers open because each one does different things. Wow.
Kind of. No wonder. No wonder. Well, here's the thing,
Mr. Rob do. Whenever Gitmo Nation likes something, whenever they're
really like digging something, people always do things like they
make jingles, they put together end of show mixes. And
since you are... I mean, no one even called you
a Zionist shill. I'm amazed. I'm a little worried, actually.
There's still time. Here's a mix just for you from
Just Baker. Yeah. Yeah. in the right seat. Two pairs
of eyes cutting through the same medium. They don't just
report the weather. They measure the dew point at exact
degree where the narrative vapor turns liquid. And you finally
see the point. Just do it. Just do it. Do
it. You're the brain, name the game Let the morning
light do what the night couldn't Sir Lucifer and the
Podfather Deconstructing the same old script Just do it Yeah
Just go. To just do it I mean, come on,
man. That's some love right there. I'm literally going to
walk down the street with that blasting on a speaker.
The question is, are you on super male vitality pills
right now? Is that what's going on? You know what
I did take, though? I will admit, I did take
the methylene blue this morning. Hold on. Wait for the
drop. Wait for the drop. Wait for the drop. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah. Welcome. All right. You know, that's something
we never did on no agenda is play music in
the show. I'm like, man, I really wish I could
play some old school music. I'm like, what am I
thinking? I got this. producer made mixes might as well
use them in the show now and do something different
yeah exactly well i guess was that one that that
played at the last show i didn't make it to
the end no no no one made it to the
end rob uh no no that's uh that's brand new
nice how did i don't before we even start with
deconstructing the news yeah how did i miss The Freedom
250 Grand Prix being today? I, you know, I had
no idea either. My, my mind has been, uh, um,
I was looking for clips. I wasn't even looking at,
is that a race cars? Is that what that is?
It's Indy car. Um, A street race in Washington, D.C.
Oh, wow. I mean, like, yes. I bet the traffic
is awesome today. Well, of course, all the liberals are
complaining how horrible this is. But this, I mean, that
could not be more Americans. Oh, yeah. Indy cars. And
also... Do you know anything about racing? Are you a
racing guy? Do you care at all about that stuff?
You know, I know you go fast. I know you
need a break and you shift. That's about it. Because
I think Formula One, and I could be wrong, I
think the Formula One cars now also have batteries. Oh,
wow. I don't know if they're hybrid. It's another heavier.
Well, they had to go green because, you know, got
to go green if we're racing in the United Arab
Emirates. And I'm like, I think the Indy cars, they
just burn fuel and just have explosions. Yeah. They burn
fuel. They burn tires. They burn – it's a lot
of – A lot of fossil fuels in the making.
Yes. I love it. There's nothing like having the straight
of Hormuz being in dispute over oil and we're just
like burning it in D.C. It's beautiful, man. I want
a shot of the car driving past the Lincoln Memorial.
That's what I need. You know Trump's watching it right
now. I do have a racing thing, though. I did
do a drag race one time in my mom's 1986
Buick Century that she got from Mary Kay. Wait, was
that a straight six? It was a straight six. It
was a six. Oh, man. And man, I caught a
second, which I don't know if people know. That's when
you peel rubber when you go into second gear. So
that's called getting a second. And I beat my friend
had a Caprice Classic. Oh, man. And I blew him
away because he had too much weight. So your mom
was a Mary Kay – what was it like? She
was a sales director. Because if you're at the top
of your game, that's when you get one of those
pink cars, right? Right. She got three cars from Mary
Kay. That's how successful she was. Yeah. And, you know,
when I look back at it, I'm like, that's amazing
because this was in the 80s and, you know, people
maybe had a lot of money or it was, you
know, it was a different time. There wasn't a it
didn't seem like everybody had disposable income. So. But she
would go out in her business suits and come back,
and she would hold parties, and it just got bigger
and bigger. I love that. Yeah, three cars out of
the whole deal. You can't beat that. No wonder you're
an entrepreneur. It's in your blood, man. It came from
your mom. That's awesome. Yeah, and she started off as
an English teacher. So that's… It's pretty amazing. And now
she's retired and a grandmom. She just loves being a
grandmom. Is she nearby? Is she in Texas? She lives
down the street. When I moved to Austin in 98,
slowly everyone in my family moved here to Austin. Because
I'm like, this place is really cool. You guys should
come. And now it's way too crowded. And I'm like,
how do I get out of here? Right. Right. So
you got grandma nearby. Yay. Yeah. Yay. That's great. That's
how you do it. And all the all the extended
family is close by. My brother is probably the furthest
now. He's out near Beaumont. But we all kind of
went from Louisiana over to Texas. Very nice. Oh, you're
from Louisiana. Originally, yes. On the other side of the
highway. Basically, other side of the Sabine River. I mean,
we were like 20 miles from Texas. Oh, okay. Always
looking to come. Always mall shopping in Texas because they
had better malls. So I got a clip from several
different people, which kind of pertains to you. And I
wanted to respond to it and set the record straight
and that I have another comment about it. This is
from the Alex Jones podcast. Alex Jones live dot com
show. Can I mention one last thing and I'll let
you go. Well, we're not censoring you. You're doing that.
You're not. You're not. You're doing it. You're doing the
thing, brother. Do it. The next caller will do it,
too. No, you're on the air. Go ahead. Is there
any chance you're going to link back up with the
Revenge of the Cis guys or Adam Curry from No
Agenda? Because he's a Rogan guy. He's in Texas. You
should really link up with Adam Curry. Yeah, I like
Adam Curry. He's really smart. Last time he was on
my show, like 10 years ago, he got a big
backlash from his supporters. No. Oh, my biggest interview is
with you, but I can't come on your show. You
can't come online. I saw him like three years ago
at one of Rogan's shows, The Mothership, shook his hand,
said hi to his wife. I mean, Adam Curry won't
come on the show. Well, he found Christ recently. His
co-host, John C. Dvorak, just passed away, RIP. And he's
got some time now. I think you guys, you got
a big crossover audience, Alex, and I think you should
take advantage of that. Well, you're lobbying me. He won't
come on the show. So, he wants to come on
and come on. Refuse! All right. Well, thank you for
having me on, Alex. Yeah, you bet. Thanks for the
call. Look, there's this thing. I was the first person
to get really censored, and I'm still on YouTube, Instagram,
Facebook, and most things. And I'm only allowed on Rumble
and only on X and on AlexShonesLive.com. They came in
and took over InfoWars, all that. So people still know,
like, it's safe to do anything out there but be
with Alex Shones. Sorry.
I love Adam Curry. But people are always like, have
this person on, have that person on. They won't come
on. Joe Rogan's afraid to have me on. So, and
that's fine. I'm not mad at Joe. It's fine. He
can say everything I say now and be safe. But
the globalists are like a hunting dog that's after a
target. Globalists. It's like, don't get near Jones or you'll
get big problems. That's right. All right. Globalists are behind
me. Okay. Okay. So let me just tell the story.
This was during the great PayPal deplatforming. And Alex asked
me to come on. I said, brother, right now we're
having so many troubles and we can't sell vitality pills.
And if we get kicked off of PayPal, we got
a lot of problems. And later, actually. People got so
mad at PayPal for another issue that a lot of
people just pulled their subscription. So we got hurt regardless.
Wow. Yeah. Brother Alex, I would love to come on
again. Absolutely. And I like that he remembered that Tina
and I met him at the mothership. His new wife,
he's married to her, right? His new wife? Is that?
Yes. Is he still with her? Second wife. Second, third?
They're definitely still together. Okay. She was hanging out not
too long ago. She's very sweet. Sweetheart. Sweetheart. And so
was Alex. Even Tina's like, Alex is a sweetheart. Did
you notice his, you know, so I don't know how
long ago you saw him, but he was... He's really
gotten in shape in the last couple years. Oh, of
course I saw that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he looks
like a different person. People were like accusing him of
being a clone. I'm like, no, it's the same guy.
You know, that's what happens when you lose weight and
shave your head. But you know, you look different. But
it's true. It's true. They're cloning all the celebrities. You
know this, right? And you have your digital twin. And
actually, someone like Alex, would pay for it so that
he could then retire to the bunker in hawaii got
the documents it's all true you know i saw a
second half a show clip i didn't bring it to
the show but it was it was a guy saying
he had a friend who was in the path of
a data center And he calls him up and his
friend's like, hi, I've moved to Puerto Rico. Yes, it
was a number I could not refuse. I'm very happy
now. And he's like, that doesn't sound like my friend.
He thought he was cloned or some company stole his
voice. So it was pretty interesting. And you're looking at
it like, well, you know, it's possible. You know, here's
the thing. If humans can think it, it's then possible.
Yes. You know, it may not be technologically possible right
when they think it, but 5, 10, 20, 30 years
down the road… All you have to do is come
up with the idea. And that's one of the cool
things about AI, especially with images. If you think it,
you could possibly get a weird-looking version of what you're
thinking created. But there's a lot of wokeism in AI.
Oh, I know. And some of it – I mean,
not some of it. A lot of it is because
of – People believe in these black boxes actually are
telling you the truth. And, you know, they use it
as some kind of oracle, like, you know, hey, tell
me what this is about. And these things are only
really good as tools if you know what the outcome
is supposed to be, not as a as a all
knowing, all seeing device. But actually, that brings me to
the first. Yeah. The first topic, which as you and
I discussed on Thursday, everything, everything, everything is about the
midterms. I don't care what it is. It's all about
the midterms. And it's unbelievable how people are falling into
it left and right. And the data centers, well, that's
one of the big ones. And I can say if
I were the mayor of a town or the governor
of a state – and I had a chance to
get a big plant in, an AI plant or a
data center, I would absolutely want it because the jobs
are enormous and the money paid, the taxes paid, are
just enormous. President Trump hosted tech leaders at the White
House to discuss U.S. efforts on cryptocurrency and artificial intelligence.
Trump says the technology is crucial to create more jobs
and beat China, but voters have a different perspective. NPR's
Deepa Shivaram reports. The president argued that if he were
the mayor of a town, he would want an AI
data center there for the tax benefits. But if I
were a governor or mayor, I would want that plant
in my town. And many of them are designed in
a very beautiful way. That puts Trump at odds with
the majority of Americans. A Gallup poll from March this
year said seven in 10 Americans oppose an AI data
center getting built in their area. Trump, in his remarks,
acknowledged that AI data centers could use a, quote, little
public relations help. But his stance underscores how his perspective
The perception of the technology differs from voters' concerns, which
could be a top issue in the midterm elections this
year. Yeah, there it is. Top issue. Yes, make it
a top issue. So do you go to a church
out there in Driftwood? Yes. It's an Episcopal church. Did
you go this morning? No. Bad boy. I know. So
we go to church early on Sunday morning. And this
data center thing, there's like this confluence of messaging that
has just come together to the point where very rational
people completely believe that data centers are pretty much demonic.
I mean, that's the word I hear. They're going to
take all the water. They're going to take all the
electricity, which, you know, some of that is true. They
are going to use a lot of electricity. Well, we're
covering that. Definitely. The last show. Definitely. Some of that
is true. But there's this these additional things that have
come in. And first of all, AI is all under
control of Peter Thiel. Palantir is using AI, and they're
going to control everybody, kill everybody. They kill everybody who's
not a Jew. They're the only company doing it. The
only company. They're not even an AI frontier company, but…
In fact, they do quite the opposite. But this is
like the Whitney Webb thing. It all comes back to
Peter Thiel and the PayPal mafia. And then Epstein, it
all comes back to that. And then you add in
this one extra bit, which actually saw you. I have
not heard your clips, of course, but you brought in
some clips, I think, which will be relevant. Now people
add the flock camera. So now these data centers are
going to be filled with surveillance on us. Skynet is
here. We're going to be completely controlled. We'll be digitized.
And the antichrist is in the data centers. And this
is just not true. It's just not true. Well, and
if they want to track you, they're already tracking you
through... Oh, and they're posting their fears on Instagram and
TikTok, which is the literal Skynet. No, they're posting their
crimes. They're like, let's cut down these flat cameras, which
I think is, I was going to say this after
I played some of these clips, but that's the PSYOP
of, hey, go cut down your local flat camera. Nothing
will happen. I'm like, there's somebody running this thing to
create. create a flock protection system because then it's going
to become really bad. You know, like right now, it's
just vandalism. Well, now it's going to be now you're
messing with infrastructure and it's going to be some weird
thing where they turn it around and go, now we're
going to get you. And it's 20 years in prison
for touching a fly camera. That's what I think. Well,
that's an interesting take. Well, that's where it leads. It
always leads to that. We've got to create something protected.
So... This is the surveillance system that we're creating or
who's creating. We don't know. But there's other companies out
there other than Flock that are doing the same thing.
How about Amazon? We don't hear about it. How about
Amazon with the ring doorbells, which everyone gladly put on
their home? Right. And now they're clairvoyant. They can see
in boxes. What are these Flock clips you got? So
the first one, let's see. Let's go to – well,
let's see. I got Vader on Flock. Let's start with
Vader on Flock. This is Darth Vader goes to a
city council meeting, and he's voicing his support for Flock
cameras. I was looking for people – initially bitching about
it but i'm like i don't know these clips are
kind of funnier of the people being sarcastic and promoting
uh flock so we'll start with fader The Emperor is
a fan of flock. And we must continue utilizing flock
technologies so that we can follow and surveil the rebel
scum as they move from playground to playground, from playground
to pool, from pool to gymnasium. Because we all know
that the flock cameras are not only following the license
plate readers, they are following children. They are following children
in parks. and gymnasiums and we need this. I need
this so I can stalk my ex-girlfriend. I saw this
guy. He was great. I got to ask Rob, the
constitutional lawyer. I mean, I'm not so sure. I mean,
I know that municipalities are getting rid of him everywhere.
City councils are going, hey, we made a mistake here.
And I grew up with this nonsense in Europe. with
traffic cameras and, you know, at a certain, where it
actually led to with them, like in the Netherlands, it
used to be flitzpiles, so flash poles, they'd call them,
which is obviously a camera. Ah, crap, I got flashed.
So then you just get a... Oh, you'd actually see
the flash as you drive by, and you're like, oh,
man, I got flashed. Exactly. But then they changed it.
They changed it to these sensors with, let's say, maybe
five kilometers in between. And so they clock you when
you hit the entry on the highway. And if you
hit the exit too soon, then they then boom, you're
done. You clearly were speeding in the interim. So they
have these these these sections of highway where they're just
clocking you. You know, the opposite of Indy or NASCAR
is not how you have to go exactly the right
speed. And, and, and I, you know, it's working over
there. It's stupid, but people are like, ah,
I might as well just slow down here. I just
go. Oh, well, here's Rob, the constitutional lawyer. He's checking
in right away. He's listening. Oh, good. Are you about
to ask him whether there's any expectation of privacy on
a public road? Well, you know what I'm asking you,
Rob. I'm asking you what to can because to ask
that question is to answer it. I guess public. Okay.
I thought that, you know, isn't that trapping you? Isn't
that entrapment? He's going to have to write me a
brief. A brief. Well, where it gets interesting is they,
you know, they take this stuff and then they hold
it. And then some of these police departments, the police
departments are tracking their ex-girlfriends. I think that's a small
minority, obviously. But they'll use it for other things. Like
a crime was committed and you were seen on this
road at that time. Yeah. Not for speeding purposes. But
you were seen there, so we're going to come and
question you. And there's video of that, of cops going
to people's houses and questioning them. They're like, you stole
a package. And she's like, I drove through that neighborhood
because it's a shortcut. And they're like, nope, you stole
a package off this lady's front porch. Yeah. uh so
what else you got here all right so we got
now we have i'm assuming this lady's a mom um
because she just kind of gave out the the mom
vibe uh she's sarcastic mom on flock one and she's
basically you know doing the same thing that vader's doing
but she's got a different twist on it and i
and i kind of like this twist and and i'm
all for you know if we're gonna do this to
everybody, then let's, you know, if we're going to put
flock cameras on the trails and everywhere that we can
possibly think about, well, let's make sure they're in front
of our public servants' homes. You'll probably remember me. I
was at the last meeting in opposition to flock. But
after seeing the recent data coming from the sheriff's office,
I'm going to call for more flock cameras. Double. Triple
even. I want the most that we can possibly have.
I'm requesting they be placed in the commissioner's office, in
front of the commissioner's houses. I want them at the
sheriff's office, in front of the sheriff's house, and I
want them in front of every government employee's house. This
wasn't an issue pointing one at my driveway, so it
shouldn't be a problem, right? Anytime the sheriff, commissioner, or
government employee leaves their house... A drone should detach from
the camera and follow them wherever they go. This is
for safety and to protect you. Don't worry. It's just
a license plate reader. No big deal. I'm not lying
to you. You can trust us. We're here to help.
Oh, I like that. And that kind of dovetails into...
J.C.D.'s. He wanted cameras in the classrooms. Yeah. Here's Rob,
the constitutional lawyer. He says the Fourth Amendment does not
apply unless you have an expectation of privacy. Creepy. Overbearing.
Absolutely. Unconstitutional. Sadly, no. The Fourth Amendment prohibits unlawful searches
and seizures. Let's play your second clip, your second mom
clip here. We can also use unique identification numbers in
real time as you move, tracking things like your Bluetooth,
your car GPS, heck, even your dog's microchip. And no,
this is definitely not a slippery slope of constitutional liberty,
just because some judge who works for the government maybe
might say so. In addition, we could add an extra
layer of security, and every government employee email and phone
could have a digital online clone. That way, every taxpayer
can go in, view your text messages, listen to your
phone calls, see your search history, and listen to your
voicemails on that device. If you don't have anything to
hide, it shouldn't be a problem, right? We'll only store
this data for 30 days, though. I'm being totally honest
about this. For the low price of a few hundred
thousand dollars, why not spend the extra money surveilling the
government? their use of our tax dollars, and everything funded
by them. If you're not willing to have this transparency
as a public servant while you erect a surveillance state
around citizens, then you're a hypocrite. Y'all stay blessed. Thank
you. I love the ending. Y'all stay blessed. Y'all stay
blessed. Rob continues, if the camera can see inside your
car, you may have an interesting question. The question will
again turn on whether you have an expectation of privacy
in your car. And I just say that the final
point is that everybody is freely giving their location information.
Their data, their communications with a non-exclusive license to have
that data copied and reproduced and replicated and remixed and
done whatever and sold and sold to whoever wants to
buy it. So this is just like a red herring
almost. Like, oh, I'm so upset about this. But you
shouldn't use a single app. The apps are what are
doing it. And maybe this will lead to that. Maybe
people will start looking at their phones and going, wait
a minute. No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no.
They won't. They love it too much. It's easier just
to bitch about flock. I mean, you can't go to
a city council meeting if you can't put it on
Instagram. What's the point? That's true. I'm sure that this
mom thought that as well. And the crazy thing is,
is that this so-called incredibly intelligent artificial intelligence – is
really, I mean, this is just a clip that I
pulled to help people understand how the corpus, how a
lot of this recognition is actually done and who does
it. A lot of people see artificial intelligence as something
that is largely automated, frictionless, and just appears as a
useful tool for us. But most of the human hours
that go into making artificial intelligence possible are not done
in labs in Google or OpenAI. The majority of the
work is actually very piecemeal data annotation work, which is
outsourced. to various locations in the global south. everywhere from
India to East Africa to the Philippines, where this data
annotation work is undertaken by an army of millions of
workers across the globe. Now, just to give you some
context, this data annotation could include something like annotating a
street scene for an autonomous vehicle, so drawing a box
around what is it tree, what is the child, what
is the street sign, so that as you're training an
autonomous vehicle to essentially see the road, the algorithm that
powers it will be able to learn the difference between
these objects. And this doesn't happen on its own or
automatically. This requires hundreds and thousands of human labour hours
at what I call digital sweatshops, which are located all
across the globe. And this is often done in very
substandard labor conditions. And the whole process of hiring these
workers and outsourcing the work to them really mirrors in
a lot of ways the outsourcing revolution that happened in
manufacturing and IT. And I think when it comes to
things like coffee or chocolate or our clothes, I think
a lot of listeners would be aware that this is
part of the global supply chain. And I think what
we need to realise is that advanced technology like artificial
intelligence is still part of these global supply chains. I'm
going to push back on this dude. I know a
guy who has a company, and he actually had this
in the very beginning of Value for Value with Podcasting
2.0 with streaming Satoshis. It was a company called Sphinx.
And they actually had set up this, they were very
excited about the lightning payment system because they had an
entire army of people working in the Philippines, which is
not a third world country. There's a lot of issues
for sure. And these people would do exactly what was
described, you know, CATs. that deer, human, bicycle, in essence
the other side of your CAPTCHAs, but doing it for
artificial intelligence. And they would get paid micropayments per completed
assignment And they were able to take that, convert it
into gas cards, gift cards, cards for local supermarkets. And
they were doing phenomenally well. And I don't know if
they're still in business. I presume they are. So that's
actually not all that crazy and not all that bad.
But this is just another part of it. Oh, they're
digital sweatshops. By the way, there's a lot of people
in America who do this work, too. A lot of
people. My daughter did some. She was doing all kinds
of stuff for Google for a while during COVID. All
kinds of, you know, tagging, recognizing. I mean, it was
everywhere. It was just, it was like a great little
side gig. But somehow. I always find it interesting, those
captures now. Now they want you to do three or
four in a row before the website will let you
check it out. You know, it used to just be
one. Now it's like. No, no, no. Here's another picture.
Identify these cars. Okay. It's so crazy that I have
to convince a robot that I'm not a robot. I
mean, there's something so wrong with that. So these data
centers, which I truly believe will not actually be functional
as data centers, We heard on the last show, if
you didn't go back and listen to the guy from
ERCO, or not from ERCO, but the Energy Commission in
Texas. Yeah, in Turkey, Texas. Turkey, Texas, that they're looking
for stranded power. So that's power that can't even get
into the grid because it would overload the transport lines
to the grid itself. Yeah. And so they, you know,
the data centers, they're smart. You know, like, hey, I
want to create a baseload. You can power my machines
and then I can sell off some excess capacity when
It's not needed or not at night or when there's
no wind. Yes, there have been some projects that took,
you know, especially in Virginia or the Alexandria, Virginia area
where all the existing data centers are. Yeah, they started
to suck more power. But now it's just seen as
this. evil evil thing and i'll reiterate this is a
boondoggle a bonanza get your kid you know they will
take anybody who wants to work they'll teach him a
skill teach him how to weld teach him how to
be an electrician teach him how to wire stuff teach
him how to get coffee for all i care just
like the oil boom This is a great opportunity. It's
only going to last a couple of years. The data
centers are not evil inherently, but this is now turned
into a psyop, which is, you know, is anti-Republican. And
the Republicans are doing it to themselves. This is the
thing that's so crazy. Like, well, I can't vote for
anybody who's for data centers. Texas Governor Greg Abbott once
dubbed his state the epicenter of AI development. That truly
is a Texas-sized investment in our state. An ABC News
analysis found Texas is now among the states with the
most data centers. with more than 300 in operation and
at least 200 more in the pipeline. But as opposition
grows in Texas communities. This is my investment, my home,
and it's being ruined. The issue roils the governor's reelection
campaign. Greg Abbott. Abbott took 20 million in campaign donations
from data center executives and companies, and he gave them
billions in tax breaks. Abbott now reversing course. We must
prohibit them. From building AI data centers in rural Texas
neighborhoods. Putting a freeze on new data center projects as
the state audits them for energy, water usage and tax
incentives. A move President Trump called a mistake. For Texas
to say no to data centers is a mistake in
the sense that it could be bigger than oil. Wow.
So none of these guys, including the president, understand anything
at all about this stuff or the fact that the
frontier model companies, which means they're the leaders of burning
money, that they are the ones themselves who have. scared
everybody about oh well it's going to break in everything
it's going to bring down entire systems and that's super
cyber hacking and it's going to steal your bitcoin going
to break into your bank account which is backfiring on
them in a tremendous way where the you know the
new anthropic Fable used to be called Mythos. They rebranded
to Fable. No one's using it. It's too expensive. We're
like, we're not going to use that crap. We're going
to use the cheap stuff from China. This is fantastic.
We like this. That we can load onto our computers
and run ourselves. We can load it on our own
little data center here in our homes. So Abbott, who
doesn't understand anything at all. And yes, he's a good
guy. Small towns, that's what happens in small towns. You
get a bonanza, you get the small town. They get
a factory, they get something that brings jobs to that
area. Yes. That happens all the time. It happened with
the railroads. Steel. And it's so, steel, thank you. It's
so analogous to the railroads because, yeah. Lots of tracks
are going to be laid and all those companies will
go out of business. And many, many, many years later,
we might be able to use it for something. It's
a mall. You make it a mall. All kinds of
great opportunities. But Governor Abbott. He doesn't know what he's
talking about, and now he's trying to play the political
battle. And I think he's coming off as an idiot.
He was on the... the ABC this morning. Texas Republican
Governor Greg Abbott once vowed to make his state the
quote epicenter of the AI industry. Now he has put
in place a moratorium on data center construction. That issue,
along with inflation and anxiety about the Iran war, is
among the factors that have Texas Republicans nervous about the
Nervous. A nonpartisan Cook political report, which rates elections across
the country, this week rated the Texas Senate race a
toss-up, suggesting Democrats have a real chance of winning a
seat they haven't won in decades. We traveled to Austin
to talk to the Lone Star State's most powerful Republican,
a leader who is also famous. facing a tougher than
expected campaign for reelection as governor. Governor Abbott, thank you
for having us. Great to have you in Texas. So
how much anger and concern are you hearing out there
about data centers? So what we've been focused on is
responding to concerns that have been raised about data centers
and making sure that we've created a structure that's going
to do more than any state to solve the problem.
As governor, I have outlined that. The greatest detail and
most comprehensive plan of any governor in the United States
of America to respond to the data center challenge. Humana,
humana, humana. The data center challenge. You know, if he
actually knew what he was talking about, this is an
opportunity for the American people to take money from BlackRock,
from Vanguard, from the United States. from google from meta
take their money i got an example of this too
a big example so i got we got some friends
that live in alexandria right outside of dc and they
live in this beautiful neighborhood you you know the houses
are are big compared to i would say upper upper
upper middle class standards you You know, maybe these are
1.5 million, $2 million houses. I don't know what they'd
be. That's where they'd be in Texas. Up there, they're
probably more, you know, probably close to 3 million. But
these, everyone in this neighborhood, and they're surrounded by data
centers. You drive out of their neighborhood, data center, data
center, data center. It's just giant big buildings. And so
obviously the data centers want to absorb this neighborhood. They're
giving these people $4 million at home, $4 million for
their house, and then they're just going to bulldoze these
houses and put a data center up. Which is, I'm
like, I can't believe that that, I mean, it's a
boondoggle for everybody in the neighborhood. They're like, sure, we'll
move for that much. Yes, of course. Of course they
will. Then it's like, where do you, then you could
go, where do we want to go? Like, what's our
dream place to go to? Because then you have dream
money at that point to use and go for. Go,
you know, plant your flag somewhere else. And so people
are like, government money. This is not government money. This
is private money. This is private equity. They're raising huge
money in bonds. This is the way to screw Wall
Street. I'm telling you, you can go back in a
few years and buy your house back for $750,000. Well,
or if it's not been bulldozed. Or you can buy
the dip in the market when the market drops. There's
so much opportunity here. Because everyone knows this bubble is
going to blow up. This is the same thing. with
metropolitan fiber in the 90s you know all this money
just tons and tons hundreds of billions of dollars went
into no maybe it was more like hundreds of millions
but that's billions today went into fiber being laid everywhere
and only now only now What do we, 25 years
later? It's finally getting used. Do I get it here
in rural, quote unquote, rural Texas, 80 miles outside of
Austin? And there's no eminent domain. The railroads was eminent
domain. Screw you. We're going right through you. The guys
who were in oil and gas, who were already making
out like bandits, It's not gas they're burning, flaring off
in the fields that you see creating dangerous greenhouse gases.
It's methane, methane that they cannot transport because there's no
pipelines going from the gas fields to wherever it needs
to go. It's not affordable. But look at what they
can do and what they are doing. Data centers are
going near the gas fields. Oh, well, I can take
this methane. Okay, that's extra. It is, I think, a
once-in-a-lifetime opportunity where money is being transferred from the incredibly
wealthy rich to people who could use a break but
you got to be opportunistic you got to be like
an american you know we do this all the time
in america this this state sucks i'm moving to another
state but oh there's no opportunity here i'm moving to
that state where there's an opportunity this happens all the
time this is our entire history Well, that's why Texas
is growing so much. People are coming here for the
jobs, for the opportunity. And the only thing I could
see is there are some anecdotal stories about the noise
of these data centers next to neighborhoods. And one guy
showed something about his cow. He had a live cow
birth. But you're not seeing a lot of those. You're
not seeing a ton of people saying that. You're getting
a story here and there, and they may have some
validity to them. Absolutely. So it's just a matter of
– and I don't really mind Texas going, hey, we're
going to take a pause, and we're going to look
at these concerns and see what happens to see if
there is an overlap of that. But I don't think
it's going to last very long. It's, you know, we've
had the... But that's not even why it's being done
because they're afraid of losing the midterms. Well, sure, that's
only until after the midterms, then the study will be
complete. And they're going to be like, yeah, here come
the data centers. Here's our governor with new rules. Let
me tell you what I've done. I have pressed pause
on any new data center, being able to join the
opportunity. in the state of Texas. Other governors have done
the same. Well, here's the deal. During that pause, I
have set guidelines and guardrails that all data centers have
to comply with. Number one, they must identify what water
usage they're demanding and make clear they are not taking
water
from communities that need it. Number two, they must not
take power from the Texas power grid that's needed. Number
three- No one's taking power from the Texas great governor.
Oh, man. Must actually lower the cost of electricity for
consumers. They will. Number four, they need to make sure
that they are not disturbing neighborhoods or rural communities. These
are standards that are now being universally applied by all
the data centers in the state of Texas. Do you
have a co-op for your power where you are? We're
under, yeah, it's not, I can't think of the name
of it right now, but it has to do with
the LCRA. But it's a co-op for like Eastern Hayes
County. Okay, but we have a co-op here too. And
they're like, man, this is great. When are you going
to hook up some kind of data center out here
in the hill country where nobody lives and then build
your power generator? We'll take it. Well, you know, one
thing I'm not good for is I don't even know
what my electric bill is because my wife takes care
of all that. But when we moved into the house,
I did put solar on the house and mainly just
because we had gone through the time where all the
power went out that winter storm in 2021. Yeah. where
you know people lost power and i'm like you know
what we'll at least be able to charge cell phones
and keep our refrigerators running with this it's not going
to power everything in the house but it'll do good
enough and that's why that's why i got it even
though it's never probably going to make its money back
but for me it was i could be traveling and
if something goes wrong we're going to have some power
Yeah, we were in the same situation in Austin. No
power for five days. We couldn't get out because of
the ice in a cul-de-sac on a kind of a
– On a hill, yeah. Yeah, 23-degree incline. We couldn't
get out. And so when we got here, I'm like,
I don't care what we're doing. I am buying a
whole house generator. I got one of those Generacs. It's
expensive. It's an investment for sure. Sure. But, man, the
power has never gone out since. And with the generators,
it's cool. You can see it. When it pops on,
it's like – You'll feel the power goes out and
maybe half a second or whatever, then that thing kicks
on and it's going. Yeah, and you hear this big
clunk. That's the big switch that happens. By the way,
Indiana, we have family in Indiana. They are still without
power. That's amazing. Right near Geary, which, of course, is
a very poor area. Yeah. And, you know, Texas definitely
has done better than that. Here's, we'll continue with now
the hate. What is driving the hate for the data
center? I mean, we see it not just in Texas.
We see it all over the country. I mean, some
of these town hall meetings, some of these public hearings,
real anger. What is driving it? Is it the energy
costs? Is it the, what is driving the anger? So,
we have. One thing is the rapidity that these data
centers are coming online that people didn't see coming. The
other is the way that the data centers, they didn't
do their job to get the support of people in
local communities. Gaining the support of people in local communities
is essential. Because they did not do that. That's why
I am now coming in as governor saying, listen, if
you're a data center and you want to operate in
Texas, you have to first get the approval of those
in local communities. And that's why I said that standard,
no data centers disturbing local communities in Texas. It was
last year that you said that Texas was the epicenter
of the AI industry. hindsight, did Texas move too fast?
It wasn't Texas that was moving fast. It was these
data centers. But they needed approval from the government. Well,
so what data centers were doing, and this is the
problem that we are facing here in Texas, but you
mentioned what's going on nationally. Sure. And that is, they
pop up in places that nobody ever heard of before
until they started the construction. And so they had not
been working in collaboration with the state. They'd not been
working in collaboration with local governments. And so they basically
dug their own grave for the problem that's been caused
for them. And that's why they got the backlash they
deserve. And that's why these new standards are in place
to make sure they're not going to be able to
operate until they come out of compliance with the standards
that I have set. I'm telling you, this is just
a psyop. The Democratic Party has done a great job
in these Republican states. You know, that's totally true. If
they had gone and done something like an Operation Lockstep
and figured out the messaging and then rolled it out
the right way and then hired Willie Nelson to make
songs about data centers, you know, that's what they didn't
do. They didn't do it the right way. They were
like, Willie, Willie, here's the new song. Remind us of
Operation Lockstep. What was that? Yeah. Well, so that took
place, I think, in 2010, and that was a Johns
Hopkins thing. And it was basically, if we're going to
have a pandemic, this is how we're going to operate.
This is how we roll out messages to the media.
They also had the SPARS 2020-something, the SPARS agenda. And
that had a lot of actual tweets that you could
– You look at these tweets there, and they were
fake in part of the exercise. Copy-paste. Copy-paste the tweets.
Exactly, but then they're in the real world, and they're
like, we're going to get rappers to tell people to
take the vaccine. And Dolly Parton. Dolly Parton. And Dolly
Parton. Vaccine. Vaccine. And then when there's problems, we'll admit
it a few years later, and we'll kind of bury
it, which is – that's the part that's kind of
happening now with the vaccine. They're like, eh. Yeah, there
were some problems, but that's the way. We didn't know
at the time. Well, hey, it's me. I'm finally going
to get my vaccine. I'm so excited. I've been waiting
a while. I'm old enough to get it, and I'm
smart enough to get it. So I'm very happy that
I'm going to get my Moderna shot. Moderna shot. And
I wanted to tell everybody, I think you should get
out there and do it, too. I haven't changed one
of my songs to the occasion. It goes... vaccine vaccine
vaccine vaccine i'm begging of you please don't hesitate vaccine
vaccine vaccine vaccine because once you're dead then that's a
bit too late oh my goodness that that's messaging right
there that That's what they didn't do. These data centers
didn't hire the right public relations firm. Well, before this,
it was the BESS, the BESS, the battery energy storage
or big energy storage systems. Oh, God. That would never
work. Well, we had one. In the next county, I
might have been Kendall County, I can't remember. And, you
know, and that was a big deal. And now it's
the mosque, and it's always going to be something. And
I still don't know where the sleeper cells are of
military age men from China who are going to attack
us from from within. I still that just no one's
concerned about that anymore. well they're all in u.s colleges
at this point that seems to be i have some
ntd clips about that very subject okay that we could
get to whatever yeah let's do it let's do it
let's do it yeah so uh ntd china u.s college
one The World Health Organization has very painful decisions to
make, according to its chief. He described the large sudden
drop in funding in U.S. foreign aid as severe. Well,
that's the wrong clip. I must have given you the
wrong clip or renamed it wrong. Which, well, which clip?
Because this is like a three and a half minute
clips. Oh, wait. How about if it's here? Maybe it
starts here. Hold on. Let me see. This might be
it, Rob. Hold on. I think I see your problem.
The Pentagon is ordering several universities to audit infiltration from
the Chinese Communist Party and other foreign adversaries. Just how
entrenched has the CCP become in higher education? And it
is Washington correspondent Jack Bradley has more. The Department of
War this week notifying 30 universities they must audit their
ties to foreign adversaries by the end of the month.
Multiple outlets citing U.S. officials report Harvard, MIT, Georgetown, and
other top schools are among them. These schools partner with
universities or research facilities in China, Russia, or Iran. The
Pentagon specifically naming China's rebranded Confucius Institutes, which promote Communist
Party-sanctioned materials on American campuses. Congressman John Molinar, chairman of
the Select Committee on China, says these partnerships pose undeniable
national security risks. Some analysts say infiltrating higher education is
part of the Communist Party's playbook, a tactic it used
a century ago to be able to do it. take
power in China. The Chinese Communist Party views infiltration of
higher education as a key factor to overcome an enemy.
What they did 100 years ago to the nationalists was
first elite capture. and simultaneously grassroots activism to move things
in the direction of the chinese communist party here we
are a hundred years later and it looks like we're
watching a replay you know i'm surprised that no one
has made the again if you and i were doing
the pr um i mean i'd say hey You know,
all these DSA socialists, they're clearly being controlled by China,
by the sleeper cells, Confucius Institute. No one's making that
connection. It's such an obvious one. No, it seems –
people are – I think people got pissed when Trump
said we're going to let China send in a few
hundred thousand, 600,000 students. 400,000 or something. Yeah, it was
a – It was a decent-sized number, and people were
going, hey, that's going to just prop up this current
system that's creating the social justice warrior pipeline. You're taking
people from high school who are basically normal, and then
they come out with blue hair and nose rings. And
so there is some validity to that, but I don't
think it's – I don't think that's what you're getting
from China, necessarily. You're getting China's probably well in clip
two, it.
goes through, there's a A general, or I guess they
were auditing a class that the Pentagon was putting on
for top-secret military work. And they go in there, and
it's being taught in Mandarin Chinese, which I thought that
was interesting. That's clip two. With Pentagon-funded projects being taught
directly to Chinese nationals. The Department of Defense at the
time had funded a class on advancement. weapon advanced weaponry
at a major midwestern university and when they walked in
to do the spot check in the class they were
teaching the class in mandarin to not u.s students so
the program was ended but it is still happening in
different places uh in our country yeah well this of
course is ntd who just hate everything china Oh, yeah,
they definitely do. And I mean, everything was anti-Chinese. They
had what? It was like Chinese voter fraud. I'm like,
oh, what's this? It's one guy that they caught. And
he basically voted. I have this clip. He voted for...
his neighbor or whatever, and then he tried to turn
in his neighbor for voting illegally, but his neighbor actually
could have voted if he wanted to, because he had
a he was illegal. Oops, sorry. Go ahead. A Chinese
national has been charged with voter fraud in Massachusetts. The
Justice Department says he submitted a fraudulent voter registration and
ballot by impersonating another Chinese national. The DOJ alleges 33-year-old
Yu Pin Sun voted in the 2024 presidential election in
the name of his victim, who was a lawful permanent
traitor. resident. After registering to vote and casting a ballot,
Sun allegedly sent a tip to Homeland Security Investigations in
2026, claiming his victim voted illegally. Sun has also been
accused of submitting two fraudulent immigration forms on behalf of
his victim and the victim's wife. The DOJ says the
couple had their green cards confiscated as a result. Sun
faces charges of fraudulent voter registration and fraudulent voting. Each
count carries up to five years in prison, along with
a possible fine of up to $250,000. The DOJ says
Sun will be deported afterwards. You know, we were watching
the West Wing again last night. We're now in season
four. And it's so, so odd to watch this because
this is where Martin Sheen, who's the president, he's running
for re-election. He has MS. He's got multiple sclerosis, which
they hid. He's trying to hide it. Yeah. And then
they you know, so he got censured by Congress and
but he basically lied about it. And so there's a
lot of Joe Biden type stuff in there. You know,
it's like, wow, this is like they knew. So it's
very odd. But the the crazy thing was this is
season four, I think, episode seven or whatever. It's reelection
night. And they have the election results and they call
it at 11 p.m. Eastern time. How dare they? Wait
a minute. We haven't counted the California mailing ballots. This
is good. We need one more month. It's so bizarre.
Just like in. And what is that? That's 20, a
little more than 20 years ago. And we're now where
we are today. That's just, that's so insane. You know,
Florida had their election results like by 7, 38 o'clock
that night. I mean, it was, I'm like, why can't,
why can't everybody do it like Florida? They were, they
were done. We already knew. The only thing that was
weird, it looked like Dan Blazerian had votes taken from
him. They showed some votes at one point, and he
had like 8,000. Then the next drop, they're like, hey,
he's down to 6,000. That was the only coinkydink that
I saw in that election. But that's – and who
knows what this – What any of this stuff means.
But this Chinese thing, it's one guy and he was
basically trying to get his neighbor kicked out of the
country. It had nothing to do with politics, which is
interesting because – You know, you're like, what are the
reasons for voter fraud? You think, well, we want to
install this certain person. You know, this is how we're
going to do it. We're going to give this guy
all the votes with the voting machines. But here, you
know, you have a Chinese guy going in and going,
hey, I'm trying to get rid of my neighbor. I
don't I don't like his I don't like his cooking
or whatever. Who knows why? But he was trying to
get him kicked out. And that was the way. to
do it which is completely antithetical for every other reason
you think people would commit voter fraud The Strait of
Hormuz is still hotly contested. We've moved towards a strategy
of more economic pressure, which I even got a note
from our producer in Bahrain. He says, this is working.
It's, you know, UAE is also cutting off all economic
ties. And that's your general strategy. Scott Patton Besant at
work shutting everything down. And it's starting to now just...
Be obvious that we have been in control of the
straight or her moves. I don't care what people think
they're reading or or what. And this is all to
keep oil prices elevated for oil companies. We're having just
an incredible bonanza profit year on all of this. But
we're close to parity in what's being transported through the
Straits of Hormuz, as well as through the pipelines, probably
about 20 percent less. But that shouldn't result in these
high prices that will rectify itself eventually. Yeah. Now, here's
a couple of clips about it. Well, we have things
that we could sanction. We have very draconian sanctions, and
we'll see what happens. Did he say caconian? He said
draconian. He said draconian sanctions. Sounds like caconian. We have
very draconian. It sounds like caconian. I think you're missing
the first part. It's like draconian. Things that we could
sanction. Yeah. have very draconian sanctions and we'll see what
happens right now the straight is open we a lot
of boats are coming through boats are not reporting boats
coming through I got my outboard motor and my flat
bottom boat I got two barrels of oil on it
let's go a lot of boats are coming through people
aren't reporting that and that may slow down a little
bit at some point but right now a lot of
boats are coming through the naval blockade has been extremely
effective zero I mean, literally, while it's up, and it's
been for quite a while, you know, except for a
couple of little pauses where we opened it purposely with
a deal. But the deal didn't terminate. You know, the
deal didn't turn out to be what they said. You
know, when they tell us one thing and they do
another. But the blockade has been 100 percent successful. No
boats have gotten into Iran. but they are getting in
for other places but we'll see we're going to see
what happens it'll either be extremely good and oil prices
are going to drop like a rock or will continue
to do exactly what we're doing you know uh... they
were talking about three hundred and twenty minutes and understand
the logic it'll be a to be very successful we
continue to do or don't it's going to be great
the extremely good and oil prices are going to drop
like a rock or will continue to do exactly what
we do you know uh... they were talking about three
hundred and fifty dollars a barrel And it's today, 84,
85. Yeah, and also to be factual about it, I
remember during the course of this show, oil was above
100 back in... Wow. The 210s, I think? The teens?
Yeah, there was a point during Obama's presidency where I
actually... Rode my bike to a band practice I was
in because I'm like, I don't feel like driving. It
was the gas was like four or something a gallon.
It was ridiculous. That was like 15 years ago. Yeah,
I think I was in California at the time and
it was. That was probably $20 a gallon. It was
very expensive, six or seven dollars. uh here is uh
this is on cnn uh the colonel from centcom and
uh he's confirming uh that 10 million barrels a day
are moving through the Omani route. CENTCOM has quietly guided
10 million barrels of oil a day in a self-operation,
setting up a shipping corridor, hugging the coastline of Oman.
You know, that's more than 80% of the liquids transiting
through the Hormuz Street over the past two weeks have
taken this Omani route. That's about 2%. thirds of pre-war
levels. The U.S. has been blinding Iranian radars and blanking
them out and shooting down Iranian drones and cruise missiles.
We're showing the tracking here of hugging the Oman coastline
there, bypassing Iran here. What do you make of this?
So this is great to be able to finally talk
about this and see this in some graphics. Because what's
happening is everybody who's in the Straits of Hormuz, particularly
the U.S. military, knows that the Iranians do not have
control of it. And they haven't closed it. Meanwhile, the
U.S. blockade is closing off all traffic to Iran, but
letting out any other traffic that's not. Current ship tracking
shows 10 to 15%. ships a day for the last
several months have been getting through the straits. And so
this is what's happening is the Navy's doing its job.
And even CBS. The Cajun Navy delivering oil now. CBS
confirms that what CENTCOM says is true. While President Trump
says the U.S. controls that critical oil shipping route known
as the Strait of Hormuz, Iran says that very same
thing, same assertion. They control the Strait. Well, here's what
the president had to say about the Strait standoff. When
they tell us one thing and they do another, but
the blockade has been 100% successful. No boats have gotten
into Iran, but they are getting in for other places.
So the president might have been referring to this report
from Axios revealing a stealth operation and getting millions of
barrels of oil through the strait. Two officials told Axios
the U.S. military helps empty tankers enter the Gulf to
get the oil and then leave under U.S. protection.
Live now to CBS News senior national security correspondent Charlie
Daggett. Charlie, what do you know about this? Well, first
of all, Reid, we don't have to hang on Axios
anymore. I can confirm those reports. Okay, hold on a
second. Axios, the shills for the Trump administration, we don't
have to rely on them. It's true. Know about this.
Well, first of all, Reid, I... We don't have to
hang in on Axios anymore. I can confirm those reports,
folks that I spoke to at Central Command and the
Navy said that the U.S. military and part of the
naval blockade is to try to ensure the safe passage
of ships along the Strait of Hormuz, both in and
out. And they said that they had been repeatedly intercepting
Iranian drones and missiles trying to target those ships. Okay.
Well, I do have a better description of Trump saying,
and he has a great pronunciation of Hormuz. Trump Hormuz
is USA, and this is from a rally he did
over the weekend. So we went down and we stopped
them. They'll never have a nuclear weapon. They want to
make a deal so badly. We don't even know if
we want because I view the... Straight of Hormuz is
in American territory right now. It's in American territory. Hormuz.
Hormuz. We've been calling it the Straits of Hormuz for
a long time, Mr. President. That's wonderful. So he said
that was the that was a rally I guess he
took he did over the over the weekend. But, you
know, he's calling it a U.S. territory. He put out
a tweet or a post, a true social post, and
it showed the circle there. It is like U.S. territory.
Yes. He's saying this is ours. We can do what
we want with it. I saw another headline in the
last couple of days where now it's up to 15
million barrels a day. So they're ramping it up. Oh,
yeah. I think it just took time, and they probably
had to identify coastal spots where the Iranians were going
to target planes from or target the ships from. And
so taking those out, now they can do this. And
the Oman side is apparently a lot deeper than… than
the uh than the iranian side in the strait uh
by by like three times deeper yeah it's a lot
deeper over there yeah so it's only they say 20
to 60 meters on the on the iranian side and
then it's like 100 100 meters down on uh On
the other side. So it's a lot deeper. Well, we're
being ripped off and we're being ripped off by the
oil trade. We just are. We're being ripped off. Sure,
they're using the crisis as, you know, they're never letting
it go to waste. You know, the ICE, the ICE
exchange is run by the oil. by the UK. And
we got greedy oil guys in Texas too, you know,
for the WTI. Here's an example on, I think this
is CNBC. We have an analyst who knows everything about
everything, obviously. Let's bring in Alima Croft, head of Global
Commodity Strategy at RBC Capital Markets. Alima, happy Friday. Thanks
for the time. Good to see you. Thank you for
having me. So we've been putting sanctions Thank you for
having me. I'm ready. I'm ready to see the oil
go up. Iran off and on for decades. How do
you think this new chapter might be different? I mean,
is it gonna be different this time? I mean, Iran
is one of the most sanctioned countries in the world.
The question is, is this going to change Iran's behavior?
Or do the Iranian leadership believe that they can outlast
us at this point, that we want this war to
end before they do? I mean, I do think that
the double blockade is clearly hurting Iranian oil exports. The
question is, what more can be done? Are we really
going to go after Russia and China, which helped Iran
militarily? I mean, that remains... What? Why do we have
to do that? They are not supporting Iran at all
anymore. China ran away immediately. Russia is like, okay, they're
busy getting ready to obliterate Ukraine. Right. And the analyst
is like, why haven't they gone and started wars with
these guys? It's funny. I was like, what? What are
we doing here? The question is, what more can be
done? Are we really going to go after Russia and
China, which helped Iran militarily? I mean, that remains to
be seen. I've never heard that happening before. A bigger
country helping out a smaller country during a war. Where
does that happen? I've never heard of that. I think
there's a view that Iran believes that they can outlast
us. Here's what the Treasury Secretary Halima said yesterday on
the show about what they're going to announce. If we
are doing the maximum economic pressure, then that means that
likely there will not be a large-scale kinetic restart. But
I would emphasize that is for now. And we do
have control of the strait. Scott Besson, as much as
I like what he's doing, he is just he sucks
as a public speaker. He really can't. He's a stutterer.
He's trying to figure out the right words each time
instead of just preparing something. I just look at him
speak, and I can only see Elizabeth Warren's face. There's
something about it. He just looks like Elizabeth Warren. This
woman continues, I think. So, Alima, I mean, this sort
of newfound posture, you think it works? I think it
works. It works. look, Iran is still firing on ships
in the Strait of Hormuz. Yes, the U.S. is escorting
some ships to the Armani Channel, but Iran still has
clear capabilities to fire missiles at ships to... What missiles?
No, they may have drones. I don't think they have
missiles left. ...to fire missiles at ships, to do drone
strikes on infrastructure. I mean, look at what has happened
to Kuwait in terms of power plants being hit, destination
facilities being hit. So Iran still had significant disruptive capabilities.
I got some feedback from some parents of people on...
The USS Lincoln on boats, really big, beautiful boats. And,
you know, and I understand. They're like, the show criticized
this. I'm like, no, it was a naval aviator and
a Vietnam veteran. So, you know, they have said we
were just relaying the message. Now, granted, it's just two
people. But they kind of wind up with, you can't
send anything. Only one Amazon package got through. I'm like,
wait, Amazon can send a package to the link? That's
pretty badass. That by itself is pretty amazing. You try
spending 200 days on a tin can, and my reply
was, First of all, anyone who signs up for armed
services in my book right away is already a hero,
is more courageous than most people I know, should be
revered, and they know what they're signing up for. Right.
They know what this, and I love them for that.
And I understand that you as a parent, as a
husband, as a wife, as a child, you're concerned, you're
upset. I get it. My whole family is military at
minimum, intelligence at best. And I'm the black sheep. But
I got this great note from Boots on the Ground.
Our boots on the ground said anonymous on the ship.
Are they on the ship? With regards to the sailors,
Iran and hygiene, I was deployed supporting Epic Fury as
well. But I was on the dry land portion of
it as a soldier under NAVCENT. That's Naval Central Command.
The best way to describe the living situation and the
complaints is that while it isn't great, so this person
was on the Lincoln, it most certainly could be worse.
A phrase to keep in mind is that it's the
God-given right of every soldier to bitch. Closely followed by,
if they aren't complaining, something's wrong. Give a soldier a
solid brick of gold, they'll complain it's too heavy. As
far as moldy showers go, they may have screwed up
and not ordered enough cleaning supplies, and they can't exactly
make a run to go buy some more, but responsibility
for keeping those facilities clean belongs to those same sailors
complaining. Sending out a picture of moldy showers eight months
into a deployment doesn't have the same implications as service
members deploying into moldy conditions. The problem can be traced
back to those living in those conditions. He's kind of
putting it on themselves. On the other hand, imagine the
worst parts of Groundhog Day. And this is the part
that got me because I can barely imagine how tough
this gig is, this job. You wake up, you go
do the same thing every day. You never know when
it's going to end. But unlike Groundhog Day, if you
screw up, you and your friends die. There's no weekend
when you get off shift that's back to your room
or bunk, maybe to sleep before doing it again. They
may not be in muddy trenches, but the mental wear
and tear is real and hard to imagine if you
haven't lived through it. On a warmer note, it took
me far too long to redeploy, but at least I
had started moving and could break the monotony from shift
work. Sitting at breakfast one morning with another soldier flying
back with me, we're shooting the breeze, discussing the peace
deal back in June. June. Wow. And the implications for
the Iranian and American economies. I brought up. I brought
up using the lens of confessions of an economic hitman
to view the deal from and without a missing beat.
He looks at me and goes, man, there's this podcast
I think you'll really like that deals with media deconstruction.
He proceeds to tell me about no agenda. Nothing could
have brought me more joy than dropping some nightly credentials
in response. Listeners really are everywhere and hiding in plain
sight. Keep up the great work. It goes an incredibly
long way. And so, yes, it is a war. and
i mean it's it's it's hard i know it's hard
for people you know look i'm old i'm six i'll
be 62 in crap like less than two weeks wow
thanks rob wow wow and i still maintain i'm gen
x I was the face. I think you are. Yeah,
you're on the cusp. You're one of those cuspers. They
call it, I think, the Johnson generation or something, which
doesn't sound good to me at all. Anyway, but this
Iran has been a problem. Iran.
has been a problem for the Iranians. Look at how
that country changed. And by the way, 1946, 1979, we
screwed it all up. We did it. We did it.
And then we believed, you know, in 79, we're like,
oh, no, things are going to be fine. And then
it wasn't fine. So this is something that had to
be fixed eventually. And... Here's a president that's just going
to do it, and it will be better for the
world. It will be. It's going to take a little
– it's not going to be easy. That's the thing.
None of this stuff is easy. None of this stuff
– It never is. Getting a ship, getting ships out
there to the Persian Gulf and multiple ships and changing
them out, all these are giant, complicated undertakings. And, yeah,
it should not be taken lightly. You know, I was
looking at these videos going – It's moldy showers and
clogged toilets. It's not. Is it really that bad? Maybe
it is. I bet the stench is probably pretty bad.
Well, your comparison to a burning man hit a lot
of people. Well, you know, a lot of people like
that a lot. I still have. And that was sort
of an offhanded comment. But. There that's you know, you're
living on these porta pot you have porta potties there
and if they're not You know sucked out every day
It gets pretty bad and they missed a day Yes,
and it was like I'm not you know you're looking
at each one going oh my god and each one
you're like, okay That's even worse. Oh my okay All
right, I guess I'm not going to eat today. That's
where it goes. So with the eating, we get to
the affordability crisis, which no one denies. Oh, the beef,
yeah. Where's the beef? Before we get to the beef,
I really... Try to understand this, what we did with
the long-term bonds and the T-bills, the short-term bonds, just
to understand what this is, what is happening, or really
what happened for a moment and didn't happen. And this
is the idea here by Besson, because this is the
guy. Besson is doing it. is to lower interest rates
without the Federal Reserve lowering interest rates. And the way
you do that is to make the – but he
basically bought up – Treasury bought up – A lot
of the 30-year bonds, which are the loans, you know,
30-year loans, that's how we print money in America is
we write a bond and then, you know, you buy
it from us and we take that money and spend
it on, you know, stuff like military. Yeah. And the
way you pay for it is by writing short-term bonds,
which are typically three months, the T-bills they call them,
which are seen as cash in the market. You can
spend it as cash. And for a moment there at
work, because the long-term bonds. yield, as they call it,
basically the interest that you get paid back on those
long-term bonds went down. And everything is priced upon that,
including your mortgage and your car loan and all of
this stuff. So the idea was good But it only
lasted for maybe a session and a half and it
started to go up again, which means they'll probably have
to do it again. And it looks like he will
do it and he will do it at an even
greater rate. And here is the general himself. So talk
us through what you are trying to do here by
announcing the increased size of the buybacks. Yeah, we're trying
to signal that we think that this is a thinly
traded area of the market. that we're in August and
there's been a lot of corporate issuance that's influenced the
market. And we believe that there are many underlying factors
that the market is not looking at. So what he's
saying here is that a lot of money has been
raised in corporate bonds, which is all of this AI
money, the money your kids should be going out and
taking from these nut jobs on Wall Street. That's what
he's saying. And because of that, the market's distorted. And
we are going to make a market in these. We
routinely do buybacks and we're going to increase the size
of the buyback. And you know, Sarah, I would note
that it could be more than the $4 billion per
issue. More. Yeah, I was going to ask how big
this could get. Huge! If the signal here is that
you're not happy with the direction of yields, you know,
they've gone back the other way. We've erased most of
the Treasury rally that you got yesterday with that big
surprise. So how much more are you willing to do?
Well, again, we have a big toolkit, so we'll see.
And part of it is signaling here and to show
that we believe that the yields don't reflect the underlying
fundamentals. Now, not in this interview, but the way the
underlying fundamentals are seen is because... of the tariff money
that went back to corporations, which, by the way, is
not going back to you. No, just I just want
you to know, not going back to you, the corporations,
they didn't have to pay. They got discounts. They negotiated
all kinds of the different rates with the suppliers. I
mean, they get a refund. They got it. And which
is your courts doing that. OK. So that has distorted
the market. That's distorted the liquidity, the amount of money
the Treasury has. But the funny thing is this is
not a new thing. It was called the twist. The
Treasury twist, and it's been done before. The dependence on
foreign bondholders, for instance, we saw the intervention in the
Japanese yen, and that's erased a lot of the progress
there. And so there are kind of all these worries
at once about what's going to happen ultimately with these
holders of Treasuries. Again, people have bad information. I have
asymmetric information. Woo! Oh, asymmetric. So, you know, I think
that he's got something. He's got a very big toolkit,
ladies and gentlemen. The market should think, well, why would
we have joined the Japanese in the intervention at this
time? Do we know something the market doesn't know? That
in terms of being willing to do what I would
call a treasury twist. here in terms of the bond
market what what do i know that the market doesn't
know so you know i think the market's probably gotten
a little ahead of itself i love this i've got
a secret boys and girls what what do i know
with my asymmetric uh uh this asymmetric yes asymmetric information
that you don't know stand by Why did we help
Japan? I don't know if you heard this. I heard
an Indus show mix. Come on, baby. Let's do the
Treasury twist. Yes, I heard it. I heard the yes.
I heard Chubby Checker. I also heard the Peppermint Twist,
the Treasury Twist. How did that go? The Peppermint Twist.
I don't remember that one. Yeah, but that's because I'm
a boomer. Hold on a second. The let me see.
Peppermint peppermint twist. So, OK. That was a classic. See,
I grew up with all that. Joey D and the
Starlighters. There you go. Joey D. Joey D and the
Starlighters. Let me see if I can find this. Oh,
yeah, baby. 1961. Three years before this boomer came to
earth. Well, you got a new dance and it go
like this. Oh yeah, the peppermint twist Okay. All right,
end of the show, mixers. Get to it. That's right.
You got two choices. You got two choices to take.
Chubby Checker or Joey D, exactly. Now, here's the crazy
thing. This is again, I said it's not new. Listen
to this. Activist Treasury issuance. That term was coined in
2024 by Rubini and Stephen Myron when Yellen did this.
Yellen. And at the time they wrote and warned that
her move, they're now doubling what she began. that her
move was equivalent to lowering rates by a full point.
Myron, of course, would go on to become Trump's key
advisor and on the Fed himself. So I think, according
to them, these moves do have a big economic impact.
Yeah, they do. So Yellen did this. She was criticized
for it, not just by Trump's financial advisors, but by
this guy. It has been the policy of the government
and successive treasuries, now, Yellen did some of this too,
to not do that, to not be opportunistic. You go
in and you buy bonds and you know the government
is not going to gain your purchase, for example, on
the day of a 20 year auction. But she started
with this twist towards bill issuance, and it's just continued.
Right. And by the way, who criticized it? Scott Besson
criticized it. Who criticized it? Kevin Wors criticized it. And
now they're doing the same thing, but in much bigger
proportions right now. It might work because we're going to
do it bigger. That's what Besson said. The victim of
this and the reason they do this, and I think
he will do a lot more for a couple of
reasons. One is to drive down the interest rates. And
I think that will work. But the victim of it
is the dollar. It's basically debasement of the dollar. So
while your interest rate may go down. your actual purchasing
power also goes down now take some time for that
to shake out in the market but that's you know
no one ever talks about oh my mortgage went down
and you know the the sad thing is that your
your purchasing power also goes down which is exactly why
you saw bitcoin skyrocket and hold I can't see it
right now, but it's still around 77,000. But here's the
thing.
The play here by Besant and by President Trump is
to grow our way out of it. The $40 trillion
mark that we passed for the national debt, would you
comment on that and how do we reverse that? The
40 trillion is a big number. It is smaller when
we look at the publicly traded amount because our social
security funds and other government entities hold a substantial amount.
And what we're going to do, we're going to have
to grow our way out of this. And as I
talked about, at G20 in Asheville, we are going to
talk about the U.S. growth strategy and encourage the rest
of the world to come along with us. We are
also, you know, I announced that Director Russ Vogt and
I have been tasked with looking at fiscal consolidation. I
think the numbers have, are not the actual numbers now.
We've had to do substantial tariff refunds due to the
court ruling. But with the Section 301 tariffs, I am
confident that we will be back to the same level,
if not higher, of tariff income for last year. And
that is most of the increase in the deficit. And
remember, we did not get here in a day. we
were left with a mess the biden administration had the
highest deficit to gdp in history when we weren't at
war or weren't in a recession for 2025 we brought
it down by more than a percent yeah general besan
uh no one cares about the previous guy no they
don't nobody you know i was mortgage rates you know
2021 three percent you go to 2022 october seven percent
that's huge boom and and then uh it got even
higher in 2023 october 7.89 almost eight percent no one
was complaining no they weren't complaining like they are now
and it's at 6.76 It seemed it was trending down,
which is interesting. It was trending down until February of
2020, right before we went into Iran. It was 6.17.
Now it's up to 6.76. So... It's trending up, and
I think they're trying to do what they can to
keep going up even more. Now, the problem is that
people just aren't making enough money. That's the problem, and
that is always because of money printing, debasement. You could
call this quantitative easing, but it isn't exactly the same.
But this brings – The Mar-a-Lago Accords, as I've called
them for close to two years now, brings this into
play. This is where the stablecoin gambit comes into play.
So the reason the yields on the 30-year treasury bonds
are high is because people don't want American debt. Why
don't they want a lot of debt? Because it's $40
trillion already, like, these guys are going to pay back.
It seems unlikely. So we need to create a way
to have people take our debt. And this is why
General Patton Besant is swapping out the long-term bonds For
these 90 day short term bonds known as T-bills, because
this is what stable coin is backed by. And there's
300 million people around the world in economies where they
have their own money and it's sucking and they just
want dollars. And this is how it's not forever. It
may be for my grandchild. I don't know about my
great grandchild. But this is the gambit they're going to
do now. Here's an explainer of stablecoin once again. Let's
talk about stablecoins because this is a type of digital
or cryptocurrency whose value is pegged to an asset. Most
often it's pegged to the US dollar. Now, so unlike
Bitcoin, for example, or Ethereum, whose prices can swing wildly,
stablecoins are backed by reserves such as cash or US
short-term treasuries or T-bills to keep their value fixed. The
market for stable coins has exploded as of 2025, like
you just said, some estimates put that at $300 billion.
Citi, for example, predicts that a figure could top $1.5
trillion by 2030, Or 3.5 trillion in a bull case
scenario. So, this is the only... It's the way they
chose is not the only way. Of course, it would
be great if we just went into a severe depression
and we reset everything. That's not going to happen. Nobody
wants it. It's just... You think it's hard now for
groceries. Wait till a depression happens. You don't have a
job. A handful of companies dominate the space. The largest
by far is Tether, a private company known for its
coin USDT. Circle, which went public in junior, we'll call,
issues a stable coin known as USDC. Together, they control
more than 80%. of the global stablecoin market. The majority
of the money that's backing those coins are parked in
U.S. Treasury bills. And that is a big reason why
the U.S. government is encouraging the use of stablecoins and
passed landmark legislation over the summer, creating guardrails for the
industry itself. Issuers have become major buyers of short-term coins.
government debt, effectively creating new demand for treasuries and extending
the reach of the U.S. dollar worldwide. So this is
the they call it the euro dollar, but this is
the dollar that all these other countries are going to
use. They already are using it. Venezuela was using it.
Iran. Iranians are using it now. What happens in America
is people will always run as fast as they can
to hard assets, gold and silver. And honestly, I don't
know if gold coins and silver coins is really the
way to go. I mean, the prices, how that works,
it's kind of scam. I mean, it's just... The fact
that Ben Shapiro is selling gold coins has got to
tell you something. They can't be a great deal. You
want to look at if you're going to do that,
don't go for anything. Oh, this is historic. You're going
to pay, you know, $8,000 an ounce instead of for
whatever the price of gold is. Yeah. That whole thing
is very sketchy. Yeah. The reason why Bitcoin is going
is because it is, by definition, a hard asset. And
the money people know it. Look at who's holding Bitcoin.
The same companies. And they're getting more. They keep buying
more and more and more. And, you know, I'm not
giving anybody financial advice, but I'm planning on it because
it's just so easy to sell, to buy, so much
easier than gold. It's easy to lose, too. You lose
that hash. You're done. Well, so we do have –
and I'm not a fan of that, but – We
do have these ETFs and that is essentially buying exposure
to Bitcoin. That's probably a relatively safe way to do
it. And you can do it now through your bank,
through your brokerage account if you have one. Your 401k,
I mean, you can go online and sign up and
you can put money into it. I think that's probably
a pretty safe way. Because this our money, our treasury,
our debt is being tokenized as the first real thing
to be tokenized across the world. I'm not saying that
I'm a fan of it. But it's a fact. This
is what is happening. What is tokenized treasury debt? Government
debt is one of the oldest and largest financial markets
in the world. Treasury bonds are normally traded through banks,
brokers, and clearinghouses, with settlement times measured in days. Tokenized
treasury debt takes those same bonds and represents them as
tokens on a blockchain. The underlying asset does not change.
What changes is how it is stored, transferred, and traded.
Tokenization means creating a digital token that represents ownership of
a real-world asset. In this case, the asset is a
government bond or treasury bill. Each token corresponds to a
claim on the underlying security. The token lives on a
blockchain, which is a shared ledger that records who owns
one. what without requiring a central clearinghouse. This does not
mean the bond itself disappears. The bond still exists in
the traditional financial system. The token is a wrapper that
makes it easier to move, divide, and trade. A $1
million treasury bill could be tokenized into a thousand tokens
worth $1,000 each, allowing smaller investors to participate. No, investors.
Okay. And that's what this whole clarity act is about
is the guys doing the stable coin. They want to
– a stable coin being backed by a treasury, as
far as I'm concerned, is as good as a U.S.
dollar. The banks hate this because the banks – and
the way the banks are going about it is saying,
well – What if you run out of money? Because,
of course, the stable coin, unless they're illegally making stable
coins that aren't backed by treasuries, then that's a problem.
But that's pretty highly regulated. That was set out in
the Genius Act. So the Clarity Act is what the
banks want to prohibit. the stablecoin companies from giving out
incentives, interest, benefits, points, you know, all of this stuff,
because that's what banks think they're supposed to do. But
banks inherently are run on fake money, completely fictional nonsense
money. So i'm definitely going to be for the idea
of using stablecoin than a bank look at silicon valley
bank i literally still have a silicon valley bank debit
card from when uh i had my company in san
francisco and we were um we had vc funding from
kleiner perkins and sequoia and all those guys and oh
you go well we're gonna
Give you this money, but you're going to keep it
in Silicon Valley Bank. Wow. I mean, we got away
clean on that one. Banks do go bankrupt. But the
problem is that these twists, these treasury twists, this buyback,
it never lasts forever. It can last for a long
time. It can work for a long time. And who
knows? Maybe we can grow ourselves out of it. I
don't know. That'll all depend. You know, the these 301
tariffs, which are very easy to implement. You know, the
the president has all really has a number of ways
you can put all those tariffs back on. Here's the
analogy of monetizing your debt, buying your own bonds. Treasury
Department's attempt to lower yields, not quite achieving its goal
this week. Yields back to where they were before the
intervention was announced, and actually higher than they were a
week ago. At what point could rates start to become
a threat to the equity rally? Joining us now is
Bernstein, private wealth management senior investor. Thank you. We have
yields higher, maybe not at absolute levels that are threatening
in particular, but I guess the why kind of matters
if it's just kind of this voracious demand for new
debt and I guess at some point what it might
mean for somebody with an equity portfolio. For sure and
I think the why kind of comes down to two
factors. Number one, you think about the inflationary pressures that
are coming from the ongoing conflict in the Middle East
and higher prices of oil. The other would be kind
of what's the credibility in terms of both monetary and
fiscal policy. I think part of the reason you saw
that retracement in yields is that many investors kind of
view that buyback announcement as having a beach ball in
the pool, putting your hand on it. As soon as
you move your hand, it goes right back up. And
I think that's really the challenge for the fiscal policy
right now is that often when you're doing those sorts
of measures, you're trying to buy time and you're looking
for other macro or monetary forces that are more powerful
and durable to take over. Unfortunately, that buyback announcement didn't
buy a whole lot of time. And now, you know,
the Treasury is kind of in a tough position. They're
going to have to do it again. They're going to
have to do more, come up with some something else
and the clarity act which i don't know what's in
it anymore because there's been so it's been bopping around
so many times i think the stable coin guys will
get some kind of capability to hand out points or
something they're making a lot of money by the way
i mean you you get Three or four percent on
a T-bill, you know, that's 90 days. I mean, and
you just make your and people are taking these stable
coins. And it's guaranteed. It's guaranteed. You get it. I
mean, they're making these are the smallest companies with the
largest revenue in history. They're making hundreds of millions of
dollars a month just by holding these treasury bills, which
their customers are buying from them. But they're not really
buying it. They're just getting to use it. They're the
guys that hold them. So they're keeping the interest. Yeah,
of course. So they'll give you some points. You know,
some frequent flyer miles or something. And everybody can make
a stable coin. Amazon will have a stable coin. Google
will have a stable coin. And I'm sure they'll be
giving you all kinds. Elon will have a stable coin.
He already has his X money. Just wait for it.
And this Clarity Act is what it all hinges on.
The most important priority is for Congress to send the
Clarity Act to your desk for your signature. That was
President Trump meeting with tech and crypto leaders at the
White House. The president and chair of the SEC are
calling for Congress to pass the Clarity Act. That would
decide which government agency regulates digital tokens rather than allowing
crypto companies to operate in a legal gray area. Let's
bring in the co-founder and CEO of Coinbase, Brian Armstrong.
He was at that meeting yesterday. Really appreciate you joining
us, Brian. Yeah, thanks for having me. Yeah. Okay, so
let's get really, really concrete here. You've spent years saying
the biggest problem in American crypto is a lack of
regulatory clarity. So if the Clarity Act passes the Senate
in September, which it's up for a vote then, ultimately
becomes law, what changes for an ordinary Coinbase customer that
actually makes them safer? Yes. So this bill, the Clarity
Act, it's coming up for this vote on September 15th,
a full Senate floor vote. It has a number of
consumer protections that would make sure something like FTX could
never happen again. It has strong tools for law enforcement
to go after illicit activity. It also has the opportunity
to create new products in crypto that would benefit Americans.
including earning rewards on their stablecoin balances, the ability to
go raise capital in crypto, capital formation or issuing securities.
That's something that could be much more efficient, have lower
fees. And I think Bitcoin is telling us this is
going to pass. And I think it's telling us it's
going to pass in September. Because if this passes, stablecoin
bonanza is on. The whole world gets flooded with our
dollars, which they'll love using because it's going to this
whole system is going to screw the euro. It's going
to screw everything. We become the ultimate reserve currency, but
everybody can participate in that through your stablecoin. And hard
assets like Bitcoin, gold, silver will increase, I think, a
lot. I have invested interest in increasing a lot. And,
yeah, the downside is that if you're using stablecoin, Unlike
cash, it can be turned off. You know, it is,
in effect, a digital dollar that has control. Not like
your credit card is any different. Or your bank account,
even. People have lost bank accounts. People have lost –
and that didn't do anything – illegal essentially they were
just labeled or you got a labeling or your PayPal
yeah And that happened to Alex, happened to Nick Fuentes.
It's happened to a number of people who, you know,
when the government wants to go after you, they're going
to find a way to come after you. And that
is the Genius Act. I think the banks got pissed
off about that because it was sort of a Wild
West. And they're looking at, hey, we got to come
back and, you know. We're still the banks. We still
we still get to run the financial system. We don't
want this going off to a bunch of crazy. And
there will be and there will be I mean, this
is anti bank, this whole stable coin idea, which I
think is good. So there will be no more bank
bailouts. You know, the world is participating in the bailout
of the United States by buying our debt whenever we
need to buy, you know, a couple more, manufacture some
more missiles. for Ukraine or anyone else who wants to
buy them. - And we'll keep the oil flowing. That's
sort of the trade-off. - And we'll keep the oil
flowing and we'll keep the security over the oil. That's
what it is. May not be a utopia, But I
think it'll be better than where we might have been
or where we could be headed. And it doesn't matter
if it's a Republican Congress or a Democrat Congress. This
is irrelevant to that. It's irrelevant and outside of it.
If they can get it done in two and a
half more years. Yeah, it's, you know, with all these
things. You know, people look back. My son was asking
me about Bitcoin the other day. He said, why didn't
you buy Bitcoin? I'm like, well, we laughed at Bitcoin
when we first heard about it. And I remember Max
and I was like, you got to get Bitcoin. You
got to get your Bitcoin. It was like $5. And
I had I have friends who had lots of Bitcoin
and used it to buy pizzas who are probably kicking
themselves to this day. And you don't know which is
going to be the winner and which is going to
be the loser. But now with some of these things,
now you can kind of tell because the government is
going to kind of pick winners and losers. And that's
what it normally does in these big things like this.
There's always going to be some group that's going to.
a benefit from it, especially with the Genius Act. That
seemed to be going towards, you know, the Wild West
of stablecoin and creating it. And the banks are like,
wait a minute, wait a minute. We got to put
a kibosh on some of this stuff and make sure
that we're making our money because we still – they're
trying to just say we're still important essentially and i
you know scott best and who knows what he's thinking
at this point he might be thinking you know i
came into the financial sector now i'm going to change
it in a way that is it can't be uh
oh it can't easily be destroyed like it was you
know 2008. we have no choice we have no choice
And a lot of this, okay, blame it on Trump,
fine. This is COVID, the COVID trillions of dollars. This
is all the money that was printed to get us
out of the horror. You know, there was a lot
of problems with the overnight pandemic. uh, bank exchange, can't
come up with the number with the name of it
now. Um, uh during cove right before covet actually we
had the uh the collateral collateralized debt crisis of 2007
2008 i mean this is all the banks the banks
have been doing this for a year and of course
it goes back to 1971 we went off the gold
standard which you can say was the worst thing ever
on the other hand uh You know, it made America
very, very prosperous in a very short amount of time.
And then everybody got greedy and offshored everything to China
and to other countries. And, you know, I think with
the steel tariffs and American steel coming back. The Hamiltonian
system, the American system with tariffs and the tariffs are
coming right back. The 301 tariffs there. You literally decide
this. I think I have a I had a tariff
thing. I have a tariff thing. Let me see. Well,
and, you know, what it needs, what this type of
stuff does is it forces the Americans now to become
bad.
and participate because there's a lot of people who aren't
working anymore that just decided, hey, I'm not going to
work. I'm going to sponge off the government in one
way or another. And now it's with my parents. Yeah.
Now it's like, hey, here's the incentive, you know, become
an electrician, become a plumber, become a welder, you know,
all these jobs that are blue collar jobs, but I've
seen reports. There's a report on X there. They were
some parents were kind of embarrassed that their kid became
an electrician. And in three years, he was making two
hundred thousand dollars. Exactly. You know, so it's like now
they're not embarrassed. Now, like, oh, he's an electrician and
he owns several companies and he makes over a million
dollars a year. And remember, kids. Oh. That's right. All
hell is going to break loose and you're going to
need a Bitcoin. That's right. One Bitcoin. Just one. Just
one. What else you got here, Rob? What else did
you bring for us? Well, there's the whole beef situation
that happened on Friday with Trump saying we're going to
buy a bunch of beef. And then I think he
said beef product. Or somewhere along the way, someone goes,
what is beef product? I think it's – I believe
it's ground beef. It's going to be ground beef from
Argentina, where most of it will come from. He didn't
announce that in the beginning, but this seems like the
second big buy of beef that it's going to Argentina's
way. So there is some – Something going on between
us and Argentina, probably because he likes their president, the
chainsaw guy. Well, didn't we just do a big debt
swap with a money swap with Argentina? Right. Yeah. A
few months ago. Yeah. So we've been talking about this
for a while and already you've heard from Texas Slim.
Our beef comes from Argentina. Yeah. They take our good
beef and send it across the cleaners. Hey, Rob, you're
you got you got to stop the someone in your
house is on OnlyFans. Uh-oh. All right. Let's see. It's
fixed. It's working again. I'm killing windows as we speak.
There you go. I had five tabs open. Stop with
the Mac. Okay. This is your boots on the ground
cattle rancher? Well, let's go with Trump on Argentina beef,
and then we'll do the boots on the ground cattle
rancher. Okay. here we go question is what do you
have to say to us farmers who feel that the
deal is benefiting argentina more than it is them as
they are argentina is fighting for its life young lady
you don't know anything about it they're fighting for their
life nothing is benefiting argentina they're fighting for their life
you understand what that means they have no money they
have no anything they fighting so hard to survive if
i can help them survive in a free world i
happen to like the president of argentina i think he's
trying to do the best he can but don't make
it sound like they're doing great they are dying all
right they're dying what do you mean by wow i
hadn't heard that clip Yeah, that was on the plane.
It was cleaned up very nicely, too, because I've heard
other clips and I didn't I didn't do any cleanup
on it. I heard that. I'm like, somebody did some
processing on this. Good work. It's a good job. Good
work. There's lots of. So now we go to the
cattle rancher, which starts off with a great. I didn't
keep all the Nat pop in there, but he's got
an you're in a field. And he's in front of
cattle. Brr! Probably like 30 head of cattle. And he's
talking about it from his perspective about this deal. Well,
let's talk about it real quick. Right out of the
gate this morning, we've got an announcement from the administration
about cattle, beef prices. They're going to import... a bunch
more boxed beef, ground beef, scrap cuts, that's what I
call them, and hopefully bring down the price of ground
beef in the store for y'all. We've seen a market
crash. for live cattle live cattle that people like myself
grow and take to the processing plants or go down
through the system that's dropped 40 cents a pound already
just from that plant closure now this morning the markets
are crashing and But will your price change? So far,
we have not seen that. We have not seen that.
And at what expense to you? I'll tell you what
expense to you. This is the opposite of what needs
to happen. We're not gonna retain heifers and build a
herd when we can have, you know, the stroke of
a pen drop our price to where we don't make
a profit anymore. And honestly, that's where we stand. We
finally begun to make a profit and all hell breaks
loose. People can't handle it. You know, I guess because
because beef is high in the store. I get it.
Beef is high in the store. Look at what else
is high in the store. Look at what's high for
the rancher and the producer. Fuel, land, labor, all of
it. You know, you got a $9 latte, but... $7,
$8, $9 a pound for ground beef is too much,
right? Now you're going to get stuck with shitty ground
beef. Trust me. And we won't rebuild the herd, and
you're going to lose more ranchers, and in the long
run, You're going to lose everything. because where there are
cattle, there is freedom. And when these disappear... So does
your freedom. I don't think this is going to work
out like they hope. Okay, I have a couple thoughts
about this. What do you have? Well, I think probably
in the short term it's going to drop prices a
little bit, but I think he's right overall. We're having
that Tyson – it was the Tyson plant that closed.
There's a monopoly on the processing, which is where most
of the high prices come from. Three companies, none of
them Americans. Yeah, three companies. Exactly. That's the problem right
there. You want, you know, a Clarity Act for beef
wouldn't be bad. Hey, we're going to have, you know,
it's U.S. we're going to we're going to create U.S.
beef and, you know, are funded or or something to
get a U.S. company in there or kick out the
other companies. And then you get all these local and
allow people to locally produce it. Yes. And render beef.
But I think he's right. In the short term, it's
going to drop prices. And will it de-incentivize people to
become cattle ranchers? That I don't know. Well, there's a
couple things. And, of course, I've spoken with Texas Slim
for five years about this. He was here not too
late. He was... He was pretty ill. We were getting
him some medical help, and he came through here. He
stayed overnight. And I've got to tell you, he was
definitely not doing well. He's coming back strong now, thank
God. Yeah. And, you know, what's really happened, the ranchers
have a hand in this too. Maybe not this rancher.
And there's many ranchers all around the country who are
going back to their roots, regenerative and have processing. You
can do processing. You can do processing, but you can't
sell it in a store. You can sell it from
your process. So you have hometown meats, formerly known as
K&C Cattle in Luling. Yep. That's where I've gotten from
there several times. And Cole does all of his, you
know, he's his own geneticist. You know, he knows what
he's breeding. He's got fantastic cows. And they process, they
got, and that's another skill, I might add, that we
need people who can cut. this is a very you
know if if you can if you can learn how
to cut beef you've got a long future ahead of
you so that's another thing pork sheep chicken any you
know any of that just cutters are very very hard
to come by because you know people aren't interested in
those jobs but they're well paid now so he's feeding
his community And that community includes you and Driftwood, includes
me and Fredericksburg. And, you know, we've had one of
their military vets who'll come out and we'll pool all
of our neighbors together. You know, they just bring us
cash. And then they bring the boxes in one go
because, you know, the shipping is where everybody gets killed
and where it gets very expensive. And they bring it
from their own processing plant. It's local. You got the
same with the guys down there in Georgia. He actually
has an entire town that is a part of this.
So that system works. But a lot of these cattlemen
have really just become commodity cowboys. And they just know
I got to put twelve hundred dollars worth of Cheerios
in this in this animal. And I like this guy
was saying, I take it off live animals and I
take it off and send it to the processing plant
who control the price. And the Justice Department is now
going after price fixing between these these big processing plants.
So there is work being done. And there was absolutely
price fixing. The price of cattle was incredibly high. That's
why these guys have been making out. They've been selling
selling cows that were really too young to even to
even sell. Because they just want to make money. A
lot of the younger generation is not interested in farming
or ranching. They're not interested in it. It's too much
work. So we're going to have to come up with
some incentives for people to do it. This, here's the
biggest part. The education about beef, ground beef in particular,
is so poor. I mean, if a single mom with
two kids can go so much further with her money
on ground beef, making good nutritious food and meals,
for her kids than anything else in the supermarket. All
of this colored nonsense, sugary crap, which is actually killing
her kids, that education part, and it's not like the
supermarkets are going to help you, that is the big
missing piece, which I'd kind of hope Maha and RFK
Jr. would do a lot better at. I don't see
it. Um, because you, I mean, you can make meatloaf,
you can make, you can make hamburgers, you can make
meatballs. I mean, there's so much that you can do
with just ground beef. Mix it with a little pasta.
Yeah. Unfortunately, this is an affordability midterm move that is
being done here. I agree with the cowboy. This is
going to be much less quality beef than American beef,
certainly Texas beef. But it's an education problem. People just
don't really know what's going on. But if you go
to beef.com, I think Slim got beef.com. Hold on, let
me check. I don't know how. This guy's amazing. Well,
and I've used K&C. It used to be K&C, and
I think you still type in K&C, and it takes
you to their website. But there's also, I met a
guy who I was buying beef from him. Because he's
at the farmer's market. His name's Ray, and he sends
me Bible verses every morning. Oh, nice. Great guy. 6.30
a.m., boom, new Bible verse every day. He's like, you
want to put you on the list? I'm like, yes,
put me on the list. I got a couple of
those guys, too. I love those guys. It's great. You
get something to think about every morning before you get
up and run around. But they have... There's a Wagyu
herd out in Bastrop. And man, these are some of
the best steaks I've ever had. It was like 40
bucks a steak for a Wagyu, which you're not going
to get anywhere else like that. And you get to
cook it the way you want. So go to beefmaps.com.
I think the beef.com deal fell through. Go to beefmaps.com.
Find your rancher, taste the difference, go there yourself. There
it is. Drive, drive to your rancher, say howdy. Show
me, and look at the cow you're going to eat.
That was so cool when I took Tina to KNC
Cattle. And we went with Cole in the truck out
of the pasture and he like honks his horn and
the cows like I'll come running over because they think
they're getting fed. And Tina's like, how they're so cute.
Oh, I'm going to eat him. Yes, you're going to
eat him. Or her. It's going to be good. It's
going to be good. You're going to love it. Support
these guys. Your price will be good, and these guys
will support. We got Steiner. I think it's Steiner Ranch,
which is here in – I know the Steiners. Oh,
you do? Shotguns with Shane Steiner. So they have a
ranch down on, I want to say, is it 16,
Route 16? And you go online, and we order our
ground beef from them. We love their ground beef. And
they're much more local than coal. uh and our um
uh our brisket from them and we got a hump
the other have you ever had hump oh no that's
the hump on the back right yeah yeah it's the
hump it's just a roast yeah we ordered a hump
and uh And the guy comes up the same day
with his Yeti cooler. Hey, hey, Mr. and Mrs. Curry,
I'll put it in the freezer for you. He'll take
cash. He'll take a check. Wow. It's amazing. I love
it. The first time I got it delivered, the guy
shows up. And I'm getting my order. And he goes,
hey, I got some more in the back if you
want to check it out. I said, yeah, let's check
it out. He's like a drug dealer. You know, it's
like, you want more New York strip? He'll give you
a deal on this. He's like, you got cash? I
got cash. I think I bought that. I bought chorizo.
I bought another $100 worth of stuff. I'm like, sure,
let's go. I mean, it lasts forever. We buy a
couple hundred dollars worth of steaks. And I think $100
worth of ground beef for the whole month or maybe
five weeks. And we have people over for dinner. We
basically eat beef or almost carnivore. I have a potato.
Tina might have a salad. But we basically eat beef
every single day. And I'm feeling good. We're healthy. We're
still tall. We have friends over. And if you go
to the grocery store, if you go to HEB, you
can't get away for under $100 for anything. It's ridiculous.
We bought one of those. Big roast, a Costco roast
that you then slice your own steaks out of. Yeah.
Man, and that's the way to go, too. If you're
a steak eater, go buy one of these big roasts.
Get them from a local guy if you can. But
even Costco, I think we paid $200 for it, and
I got, I don't know, 18 steaks out of it.
yeah that's that so that makes that math maths the
affordability crisis is also part of just what we're doing
the cowboy is right $9 latte. Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Well, there you go. It depends on what you
want to spend your money on. Here's the Agriculture Secretary
of Rollins. This morning, President Trump announced a new plan
to import 300,000 tons of ground beef into the U.S.
with lower tariffs. It's a decision that he and Secretary
of Agriculture Brooke Rollins... and says will help lower prices.
But the Iowa Cattlemen's Association says it's going to hurt
more than it will help. KCCI's Abigail Curtin spoke with
both of them to learn what's at stake for purchasers
and producers. Ground beef. It's a protein staple in millions
of American households. But since January 2025, the price has
jumped 24%. President Trump is hoping to change this. Friday
morning, he announced he'd allow 300,000 metric tons of ground
beef to be imported with lower tariffs over the next
90 days. In a visit today, he's going to be
able to change this. According to the Iowa State Fair,
U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins says this will take
some of the burden off of consumers' wallets. We can
get a 25 percent decrease for families, usually lower income
families rely on ground beef than he wanted to. make
that move for the American consumer. Yes, exactly. By the
way, thank you, Troll Room. Yes, I know Pastor Jimmy
says no potato. We had dinner at Pastor Jimmy in
Annette's house last night, and he made some awesome steaks.
And then Annette made, gosh, she made potato for me
and had a... croissant gingerbread cookies like oh so why
does he say no potato that's interesting he's carnivore he's
okay he said oh he just has no potato and
chips no carbs no carbs but hey we talk about
this on we get to do this the hit new
podcast from adam curry and pastor jimmy wgtdt.com go check
it out everybody if you want your jesus If you
want to get your Jesus on with us, check it
out. Have you ever listened to the show? I have
not listened to that one. I will give it a
listen. All right, there will be a test. Are you
going to come on again soon, brother? I love it
when you're on the show. I think this next week,
I'll be in New Orleans and Lafayette playing with my
band. I got back into playing music because now my
kids are old enough to not need me around at
all. Wait a minute, what about Alex? Doesn't Alex need
you around? Oh, he needs me around, but it's a
weekend thing, but the kids are like, yeah, you don't
need the kids. The kids are like, Yeah, we're fine.
We're good. Just fix this when we break something. What's
the name of the band? Are you on Spotify? You
know, we don't have anything on Spotify yet. Good. We
have a lot of live recordings out. The name of
the band is Ross Mundy, R-A-S-M-U-N-D-I. And we're like a
reggae, hip hop, funk band. But when I say hip
hop, it's like old school hip hop. But it's conscious.
You know, we're pro-humanity. and you know pro-humanity yeah what
kind of what kind of band is this i know
we're not pro system that's for sure but you know
we got a south by gig this last year we
got into the reggae festival which by voting in and
it would just good things keep happening to us and
i wouldn't nice you know i wouldn't say it's in
terms of talent level it's not the highest talent level
but everybody gives it their go and we really do
put on a good show and we play you know
we'll play for two or three hours and just holy
crap you know get people get people moving and it's
uh that's where it's at do you have merch do
you have merch You know, we haven't even gotten into
merch yet. We're literally, things keep, we barely even have
our album recorded. Are you paying the venue to play?
No, they're paying us. Yeah, we're not doing that. We're
not doing that, but we're going to be in New
Orleans for a couple days playing some, it's like a
South by Southwest for New Orleans. Oh, wow. That type
of event. And then we're coming back and going to
hit – we're in the midst of – there's a
rave going to go on in Lafayette. And we're going
to be in the middle. We're sandwiched in between all
the DJs. So where are you playing? On Thursday, you
said? At Thursday, we're going to be at a hotel
ballroom. I don't – You know what? I'll tweet it
out so people can see it on X. But the
place we're playing in Lafayette is called the Boom Boom
Room, the Freetown Boom Boom Room. Yeah. RasmundiMusic.com, I believe,
is the website. That'll get you to a lot of
things. Like, we're very, you know, we don't have, like,
no one's super concerned about, we do the online stuff,
we make the videos, we put stuff out, but we're
mainly just word of mouth. You know, people show up
to our gigs because they've heard us before. Yeah. Or,
you know, it just happens. It's all happening because we
have the intention to go out and play good music.
So that's where it's at. Is it the Boom Boom
Room this Thursday? Is that where it is? No, that's
Saturday. Saturday the 29th. Yeah, the Freetown Boom Boom Room.
And the other stuff, I'd have to dig through my
phone. I have it on there. But we'll be in
New Orleans. Thursday and Friday and then Saturday in Lafayette
which is that's the heart of Cajun country yeah if
you're a Cajun person out there okay so I'll have
to find a a
Good replacement. It's going to be hard. Replacement for Thursday.
Sunday, I'm going to be in. We're going to Rotterdam.
Oh, nice. To finally visit my granddaughter, who is now.
Yay. She's now almost five weeks old. Next Sunday, or
this coming Sunday. Uh, Jason Calacanis will be a guest
hosting with me. Okay. Do you know J-Cow? Jason Cowell.
Well, I saw he was boasting about the new cancer
mRNA vaccine and how it's a great thing for humanity.
It's an outstanding product. Yeah, he was definitely promoting that.
I'm like, who is J-Cow? Is his name J-Cow or
is it just Jason? At Jason. At Jason. Yeah, I've
known Jason since the 90s in – in New York
was called Silicon Alley. John knew him very well. We
used to make fun of him all the time. He
got rid of that list, by the way. And now
he does this podcast, which I think is, I'm sure
it's on an RSS feed, but it's a big YouTube
deal. um with uh he's got all these uh silicon
valley dudes on including uh david sacks who was the
crypto slash ai czar for president trump for a couple
months there and it's a it's very i love watching
it and but jason calacanis he's a nice guy he's
I'm pretty sure he has a knighthood for the show,
but he's probably never claimed it. He's always supported the
show. He's always been very encouraging. And I said, hey,
man, you should come on the show. He says, well,
I can't do Thursdays because that's when they record their
own podcast. But he'd come on Sunday. So that should
be fun. I have not spoken. He's in Texas now,
too. He's out by you. I think he's out in
Driftwood area. Out in Driftwood area? Yeah, I think so.
I think so. So I'll find somebody for Thursday. Well,
I do love a good lisp. Yes, you would. I
got a John JCD story real quick. One of my
favorite moments was I was doing this thing called the
tyrannical lisp, which was – Oh, I remember that. Yeah,
the WHO. You might have some of those. Wait, wait.
I almost think a tyrannical, hold on, tyrannical. It's been
misspelled. It's tyrannical lisp. 1A, tyrannical lisp. T-Y-R. Here we
go. This is Paris' first zero-carbon neighborhood. In Ilofetil, or
Fertile Island, four buildings surround a central garden. Within this
small locality, you can live, work, shop, or play sports.
It's built on a one- But you've had a lot
of fun. lot of these, man. This is amazing. I
did a lot of them, yeah. I was always... Tyranny
will come to your door in a lisp. Here it
is. We are entering the era of the megalopolis. Yeah.
No, it's not a dinosaur. Cities around the world are
merging. And a classic one. IKEA is experimenting with insect
meatballs. Meatballs. To make people think about how much meat
they eat. And encourage people to try alternative proteins. The
new mealworm meatballs are developed by Space Ken. Oh, man.
Classic, classic. And John Lowe, at one point he'd be
saying, I really like that tyrannical lisp. I'm like, awesome.
He did. That was made by Heart Warm that you
could get a reaction out of JCD. All right, my
brother. I'm going to let you go. I'm going to
do a bit more here. Do the housekeeping. Yeah, well,
we have the Order of the Ant, which I will
make sure you are a member of the Order of
the Ant. It's this fantastic new pin that we have.
I saw that. Yeah, it looks like it. Oh, I
saw the rendering of the pin. Yes. It's going to
be beautiful. It's going to be beautiful. It's a great
idea. Definitely a great idea for that. So, yeah, I
hope everybody continues to donate and keeps donating. We've got
to keep no agenda going. And, you know, because the
mission is not done, right? The mission is not done.
The mission is never done, as they say. All right,
everybody. Rob Dew, known as Sir Dusifer. Thank you, brother.
We'll probably see you in a week or so. Hope
to have you back on. Yeah, find me on X
at Deuce News, D-E-W-S-N-E-W-Z, and I will see you guys
on the next time. Dear producers, thank you for everybody
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in the plaster. Antills rising like rent in the back
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No, it's not Rob's band. Thank you very much. Joke
out. The thingy 20. Yeah, look at that. Look at
that, trolls. Coming back with a vengeance. 11-44, peak trollage.
Thank you very much. Listening live at noagendastream.com. And, of
course, in those modern podcast apps. Why would you live?
Listen to anything else, please. I mean, just the fact
that I played Order of the Ant means this episode
will not appear on Spotify. And you shouldn't be listening
through Spotify at all, actually, anymore. You know, I'm not
a fan of commercials, but they've implemented this skip button
now. So... You know, she's like, oh, skip all the
commercials. I don't want to hear any more. So all
of those podcasts that do not rely on value for
value are going to be in a world of hurt.
Thank you very much to all of the listeners. to
all of the developers who create those modern podcast apps.
Get one to podcastapps.com, Podcast Guru, Podverse, Fountain. There's so
many good ones out there. There's even ones for your
flip phone. I think it's the... Pod something. Just go
look at podcastapps.com. You'll find a whole bunch of them.
Value for value. If you've never heard of it before,
it's very simple. All you do is determine that you've
received some value from the show. It happens all the
time. And you think, how can I return some value?
That's very easy. You can give us time, time. I'm
going to be talking about your talent and treasure, your
time and your talent, creating mixes, attending meetups, organizing meetups.
We have so many producers who give us boots on
the ground. And I will promise to give a full
breakdown of music. The the meta lawsuit, Rob, the constitutional
lawyer, gave me a comparison sheet between the big tobacco
companies and the social media companies, which we just didn't
get to with Rob today. But I'm going to do
it. You're going to love it. That'll be on Thursday.
Special guest co-host to be determined. which is another way
you can help us with your value for value. And
of course, uh, uh, art, which is, uh, It's kind
of been on fire lately. Thank you so much, Francisco
Scaramanga, who brought us the album art for episode 1896.
I mean, this was so good. This was the chat
GPT for teens, kind of like a teen magazine Tiger
Beat cover. This was so spot on, brother. I just
love this. It's a complete departure from your usual cheesecake
stuff. I mean, I got homework help in seconds. Crush
advice that it works. A-plus grades made easy. I mean,
that was just so good. Girl with braces on the
front. Fantastic. So good. Let me see. There was a
couple other things. Let me look at the art generator.
Thank you very much, Sir Paul. Couture, no, ArtGenerator.com. I
already see people are setting stuff up for now. Let
me see. I liked Parker Pauly, Black Knight Parker Pauly,
with the cardboard, the T-Moon Knight. That was a nice
piece. I debated over that. Even Jay checked in and
says, are you going to use that one? I said,
you know... I kind of like the chat GPT for
teens. I think she used it in the newsletter. And
just some dynamite stuff that you guys are doing. Of
course, I used Tyler Brown's Surfer and the Harmoose for
the bat single this morning. And, you know, the jury
is still out. There's plenty of room for you to
get in at noartgenerator.com for this current episode.
Episode 1897. And now we're going to thank our producers
who gave us treasure in the form of donations. Noagendadonations.com
is where you can go to support us. Any amount,
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And we have a special Order of the Ant, which
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here? I do a million things now. I don't have
anyone else to do this with me to hide behind.
Oh, coming in from Denmark, from Esberg, Lassa Jensen with
$888.88. Thank you so much, Lassa. He says, in the
morning, Adam, Larry, Darren, and Rob. He says, more Rob,
please. I started listening after Adam's first appearance on the
Rogan podcast, but don't play the jingle. I was captured
by Adam's thoughts on Rogan. Then I listened to the
No Agenda podcast and was instantly hooked, and I'd like
to be de-douched. You've been de-douched. Like so many others,
I was touched by JCD's passing. I put off donating
because I thought I had plenty of time. Yeah, I've
heard this complaint before. I felt hollow for two weeks
over some guy I never knew. Now I am donating
to honor the parasocial relationship I had. As actually Daniel
J. Lewis said, The audacity to podcast, I think, is
his his show. And he has a Web site wrote
about the parasocial relationship of podcasts is a good read.
He had that with the with the show. And he
says J.C.D. was so precious. He will be missed and
never forgotten. My faux papa. In the end, John got
the last laugh on us all with an exit strategy.
Indeed, condolences to the Curries, Dvoraks, and Noah Jen the
Nation. Hosts and producers alike, we must stay strong and
carry on. God bless you all. Thank you for your
courage. No jingles, no karma. Thank you very much. And
you all should become a member of the Order of
the Ants. $444.44 from Brett Carothers in Nanaimo, British Columbia,
Scandinavia. ITM a true honored night name, Sir Tree Daddy
of Hard to Say. Roundtable requests, none. Jingles, I love
my truck and I love what I do. I think
I have that one set up for you. Note, this
row of trees donation puts me above the cut for
my Canadian knighthood. As the owner and operator of Hollywood
Tree Company, I'm an avid chainsaw milling enthusiast, so I'm
happy to provide a live edge slab for the roundtable.
Very nice. No agenda has been a pillar and foundation
of my life, and I will be eternally grateful for
keeping me balanced out on a limb called life. Thank
you, Adam. Cheers to JCD's legacy for giving it all
you got. I would be remiss to your host. Our
inaugural Central Vancouver Island Jingle Pot Ranch meetup without this
illustrious knighthood status. Well, that's nice. So if you're looking
for a chill backyard hang, please join my smoking hot
wife, Britt, and our human resources Saturday, August 29th, anytime
after 1 p.m. PST. Thank you for your attention to
this matter. Thank you, brother. Sir Victor, Baron of the
Willamette Valley. Notice I pronounce it Willamette Valley. $343.75. JCD
Ant Love from Sir Victor, Baron of the Willamette Valley.
And you will receive a handsome Order of the Ant
pin, my friend. Sir Nate the Rogue, $343.75. These are
probably $333 plus fees. Rest in peace, JCD. Long live
the order of the ants. Sir Nate the Rogue, Knight
of the Rogue Valley. Corey McDonald, $343.75. JCD fan since
PCMag, Early Tech TV. My wonderful wife Leah and I
have been listening to the show for 13 years together.
And they never had a fight. And both knew I
had to join the order of the ant. Rest in
peace, John. Thank you for your courage. Sir Keith Big
Johnson. so humble too 343 75 i'm really supportive of
everyone who has been covering while the show is getting
its footing adam i know it has to be hard
we are thinking of you baby making karma for dame
elizabeth and i thank you very much uh sir keith
big johnson Oops, sorry about that. What happened? Let me
try that again. Okay. You've got... Parma Dennis from Duluth,
Minnesota, 343.59. Different fees for you for some reason. Adam,
first donation after about 10 years of listening. I found
the show somewhere in the 800s and never gave a
dime until now, which is a long time to take
something for free. I always meant to. That's what I've
told myself for 10 years. The show is worth more
to me than I've paid for it, so I'm starting
to fix that today. Thank you. John was reliably the
crankiest part of my week. I didn't appreciate it enough
at the time. I only knew him through my earbuds
and truck speakers. So I'm not going to pretend I
know what this past month has been like for you.
Thank you for getting back behind the mic anyway. No
jingles, no karma, just appreciation and love. And I will
de-douche you. You've been de-douched. You've been de-douched. Anonymous in
Edmonton, Alberta, $333.88. And that converts to $479.88 in Scandinavian.
Keep anonymous. Consider it done. We'll send a more thought-out
email for the Dvorak's and Adam later, wishing the Dvorak's
curry in the community my condolences. No jingles, no karma.
Rest in peace, JCD. Elizabeth Johnson, Order of the Ant,
33333, making this Order of the Ant donation to honor
John and ask for baby-making karma for Sir Big Johnson
and I. Well, the family is baby-making karma in each
other. Combined decades of listening, loving, laughing, and amygdala shrinking
have brought us to this moment. Dame Elizabeth of the
Hudson Valley. Of course, happy to do that for you,
Dame Elizabeth. You've got... Ha ha ha! Karma. Zadok Brown
III, order them, 333.33. A Commodore now night ITM and
thanks to all carrying the show forward. Please night me,
sir, Foam of the Dan Bar, Gigawatt Dark Roast Coffee
Milkshake and Musubi. For the roundtable, Musubi. I'm not sure
what Musubi is. Where's John when you need him? Godspeed,
JCD. Sunshine from the islands to all in Gitmo Nation.
Joshua Johnson. Joshua Johnson. I'm sounding like Calacanis. Joshua Johnson.
3-30-3-33. I've been bummed out that I didn't take advantage
of collecting my knighthood a few months ago while John
was still around as I have donated $50 a month
since October of 24. But I'm very excited to become
a member of the Order of the Ant and a
knight at the same time. I would like to be
known as Sir Double J and request Sir. Street Tacos
and Bush Light at the round table and also request
the Mac and Cheese and Little Girls Shut Up Slave
jingles. Thank you for your courage, Sir Double J. Okay,
now I have to do a couple of things here.
I need to get the Street Tacos. I didn't put
that order in. Street Tacos. And Bush Light. Let me
do that first of all. Make sure I get that
for you. Okay. Street Tacos. And then he wanted, what
did you want here, my brother? You wanted mac and
cheese. Yes, we got the mac and cheese. And he
wanted the Shut Up Slave. I think we can do
that for you. You slaves can get used to mac
and cheese. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese. Macaroni and
cheese. Cheddar melted together. Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese.
Mac and cheese. Shut up, slave. All right. Sir Robertson
of Two Sticks, 33333, ITM, thank you, and may all
good deeds be done with humility towards others. Amen, brother,
for a greater tomorrow. All the best, Sir Robertson of
Two Sticks. Cyril Beatty, Reno, Nevada, 33333, thanks for being
there and making me feel sane. No Agenda Shop from
Gitmo Nation, Georgia, USA. Thank you, No Agenda Shop, 333.
Happy to hear the show carrying on John's legacy. Recently,
Tina shared our Sir Paul Couture design sticker honoring JCD.
It's striking, and we're gifting it together. to anyone who
places a shop order before September 30th. Oh no, have
end message due to PayPal text limit. Thank you for
your courage. Yeah, I see what you did there. All
kinds of shortcuts. It's a beautiful sticker. I think there's
two actually the No Agenda Shop Sticker Club is well
worth it thank you very much order of the ant
for you guys and that's our executive producers now our
associate executive producers coming in with $250 Manuka Gold from
Hudson, Florida they say welcome back Adam the show keeps
us company while we're working on packages and it's great
to have you back we're always happy to keep supporting.
We do have a code at ManukaGold.com for the No
Agenda listeners looking for 20% off. Code TREASURE will work
for the month of August and we're still doing the
$25 free gift for every purchase over $45. Thank you.
Thank you very much, Manuka Gold. I stand behind their
product. It's great. I also stand behind Eli the Coffee
Guy's product, who comes to us with $208.23. He always
does $200 plus the date, $8.23. He's in Bensonville, Illinois.
Last Thursday's show with Sir Ducifer was spectacular. Excellent media
deconstruction, especially when viewed through the lens of the midterm
elections. It also made me smile that even the seed
man's own people do humorous impressions of him, and he's
good at it. Adam, thank you for keeping the show
going as well as everybody who helps make No Agenda
happen. For producers who want amazing fresh roasted coffee, visit
gigawattcoffeeroasters.com. Use code ITM20 for 20% off your order. Thank
you for your courage. Stay caffeinated, says Eli the Coffee
Guy. And he does say he would like to hear
the I got ants. Well, let's do that for you.
I have no problem because it is a classic. After
all, it is today is Order of the Ant Day.
I got ants. I got ants. Thank you. I don't
know if we had ants. We had ant invasion. I
was thinking if you desiccated a big pile of ants
and then ground them to a powder like a fine
grind of black pepper. We were having dinner and yeah,
I got an ant somehow. the meal and I ate
it. These things are peppery. I got ants. I got
ants. These ants. They don't need a lot. And then
you see, you find all the ones that are roaming
around you. Although I backed him off by doing the
burning trick. You just torch him. And you leave him
there. The only ant, there are occasional moments where there's
an ant that you do not torch, and that's an
ant that's carrying one of the dead ants back. I
got ants. I got ants. I got ants. I got
ants. I got ants. Ants. Ants. Ants. Before I continue,
there you go. I wanted to thank Sarah Kring, Sarah
Nielsen, Sarah Kring Nielsen. She sent a lot of stuff
to the P.O. Box. And her note was in regards
to my birthday note last Sunday. I was 18. Oh,
this is old. This is old. But we know Sarah
Kring, and she sent this. Seems to have been under
a rock this last year. Just got sent back this
package at home from... She had to fill a form
out to get it back, two QR codes, paid my
duties. It would be so much easier to send cash.
It's a blanket, but it's like a, I think, I
don't know if she made this herself. It must be.
It's like an ITM, no agenda. On a loom, which
is just a beautiful, beautiful product. And then a blanket.
She actually sent us a blanket. Which, where'd this come
from, this blanket? This is Maison Emmanuel. Oh, it's a
classy blanket. Therapeutic life-sharing community for adults. And so it's
for a good cause in nerd in need of special
care. Thank you very much. And she sent us a
mail a moose and just all kinds of beautiful stuff.
Thank you. Thank you very much. I was supposed to
do that on the last show, but I forgot. And
also, I want to thank Nicholas Ficklin. He is. The
producer of Sklazin Hot Sauce, S-C-L-A-Z-I-N, Sklazin Hot Sauce. And
a very long note, he says, you've been on my
heart since the Instagram post notification of John's passing. As
hard as the news hit me, someone who never had
the pleasure of meeting him, I can only imagine how
much more y'all have been impacted by the loss. My
prayers continue to be with you. And so he is
the producer of Sklazen Hot Sauce, and he made a
special batch on 8-8 in his honor while having a...
his own little memorial, listening to old shows. He sent
a package, which we received. Thank you very much both
to Texas and to the California PO boxes. And he
hopes it's enough for everyone to enjoy. It's pretty hot,
so it'll take us a while. But check out Sklazen.com.
I don't know if he's got them on the website
or not. But it's dynamite hot sauce, sklazin.com, S-E-L-A-Z-I-N. And
thank you very much. I cherish the special package, special
labeled version that you sent us. Scott Kinney is in
Lakeshore, Minnesota, $200, associate executive producer, and he says in
the morning to you, Adam, I'd like to introduce you
and the gang to Bot Commander. Bot Commander. Bot Commander
is the world's first person. Oh, I've seen this. Is
the world's first personal AI assistant to adopt the value
for value model. This is interesting. It's an extensive, free
AI home and business automation system. You can get it
at botcom.ai. Start automating now with Bot Commander. That's botcom.ai
with a B, bot, botcom. Did I mention it's free?
Yes, indeed, you did. I like that he's doing this.
It's value for value, so you don't have to pay
for it until you find it valuable. I don't have
a small business other than the show. But we have
systems in place. I think you should take a look
at it. If you have a home or small business,
it can automate a lot of things for you. Bot.
Botcom.ai. And with $200 from Castle Rock, Colorado, there she
is, as always, Linda Lupatkin. And she says she wants
jobs karma. AI can write your resume. Yes, we know
that. The problem is it can write everyone else's too.
Linda helps professionals and executives figure out what makes them
different, what makes them valuable, and turns that value into
a resume that gets results. Go to ImageMakersInc.com, ImageMakersInc with
a K, and Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs, writer of
winning resumes, because your resume should do more than just
look good. All the best from Linda. John. Jobs, jobs,
jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. And thank you
to these executive and associate executive producers and order of
the ant. awardees. I need a jingle for that. If
anybody can make me an Order of the Ants jingle,
I would love to have that to give these people
some special accolades. And of course, as always, these credits
are good at imdb.com or anywhere else Hollywood credits are
recognized. We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
What up? Yes. Continue to to thank people who sent
us treasure for the show, $50 and above. We mention
everybody. Sometimes we'll read your note under $200. Ian Field,
100. Keoa, Wynan, Springfield, Kentucky, $100. Says, God loves you,
Adam, and so do we. John is sorely missed, and
we can hear the hole in your heart, but please
soldier on. The world needs your steady mind and godly
heart. No jingles, no karma. Tim Tillman, Mechanicsville, Virginia, $100.
Sir Kev McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina, lover of America and
boobs. He is the Archduke and the lover of boobs.
And that's what he says, lover of America and boobs.
Juraj Kodjak in Prague, Czechoslovakia, also coming in with the
boobs donation, $80.08. Thank you both. Nicholas Leary, Kodjak. columbus
ohio 72 72 matthew elwart weatherford texas with a small
boob 60 and six cents 6006 les katarkowski kingman arizona
with the same and bob cox a new small boober
coming in with from delphi indiana left an email where
adam is mentioned on the alex jones show well yes
thank you played that i got an invite 55-10, double
nickels on the dime from Sir Michael, protector of the
peas in Maple Grove, Minnesota. Double nickels on the dime
plus fees for fixing nuts remix. We played that on
the last show. Thank you, Sir Michael. John Catalano, 5271,
just an hour in. 1896 is not just listenable, but
enjoyable. Adam's co-host is very likable in content and demeanor.
It did not sound like a wannabe radio douchebag. Please.
Listener since at least 2008. Well, that's the early days.
Thank you for your courage. Forrest Martin, $50.05. Alex Delgado
in Aptos, California, $50. And Harold Hutton rounds us out
from Merrickville, Ontario with $50. Thank you all very much
for supporting the best podcast in the universe. You have
no idea how great it is to be able to
continue and receive value back for the value that we
are delivering. It is highly appreciated. appreciated. You can go
to NoAgendaDonations.com, support us with any amount, anytime you feel
like it. You could even set up a sustaining donation
which repeats over time up to you, any amount, any
frequency, NoAgendaDonations.com It's a birthday, birthday, birthday, Barroness Carol Ann
of Southern Colorado turns 67 years old today. Happy birthday,
Barroness. Andrea McDonald wishes her dad, Lucas McDonald, a very
happy birthday. Turns 59 tomorrow. Wants something from John's office.
We have discussed sending you something. Don't think John can
sign it for you anymore, though. And Tommy White...
Celebrates one day after me on September 4th. Looking forward
to it, Tommy. Happy birthday to these people from everybody.
It's the best podcast in the universe. It's your birthday,
yeah! Order of the Ant and congratulations to Lessa Jensen,
Brett Carothers, Sir Victor Baron of the Willamette Valley, Sir
Nate of the Rogue Knight of the Rogue Valley, Carter
McDonald, Sir Keith Big Johnson, Dennis Anonymous, Elizabeth Johnson, Zadok
Brown III, Joshua Johnson, Sir Robertson of Two Sticks, Cyril
Beatty, and the No Agenda Shop all the time. All
of you will receive this handsome pin, the No Agenda
Order of the Ant pin. You can go to noagendarings.com.
That's where you can let us know where to send
it to you. And thank you all so much for
supporting us. We'll keep this going for a while. Lots
of people want to get in on this. to get
one of those great order of the ant pins and
is a great ode to the one and only John
C. Dvorak. We have three knights, no dames today, so
I will bring out my one singular blade. Music And
invite Brett Carothers, I've got to get that straight, Joshua
Johnson and Zadok Brown III onto the podium here. Gentlemen,
thanks for your support of the No Agenda Show and
the amount of $1,000 or more. I am very proud
to pronounce the KB as Sir Tree Daddy of Hard
to Say. That's right. Sir Double J and Sir Foam
of the Dan Bar for you. We've got Hookers &
Blow, Red Boys & Chardonnay, along with Gigawatt Dark Roast
Coffee, Milkshake & Misubi. We've got Street Tacos & Bush
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& Coffin Varnish, Rubin S. Rubin & Rosé, Gaishas &
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us what size you need for the ring, we'll send
it off to you along with some wax that you
can use to seal your important correspondence. We get a
lot of those in the P.O. box. Love it when
people send us a note. And you can tell that
they're a knight or a dame because they seal their
envelope with the noagenda ring. knight or dame ring and
tell us where to send it and we'll get it
off to you as soon as possible thank you so
much for supporting the no agenda show we are the
best podcast in the universe no agenda beat up let's
go We got your meetups. We sure do. I hope
that I have all. You know, actually, I forgot to
play one thing as we end our donations. And I
apologize because he sent it to me twice. I just
want to wind out our donations with Sir Felix, who
we had not heard from. since the COVID days, and
he's gotten a little older, his voice is a little
deeper, and he is obviously son to the drunken minstrel
from Australia, Sir Chris Wilson. Take it away, Felix. My
name is Sir Felix Wilson, The Early Knight, and my
dad is a douchebag. Some things stay the same, like
my dad being a douchebag, but other things change, like
my voice and the host of No Agenda. Not that
long ago, my voice used to sound like this. Daddy,
you're still a douchebag. Though sadly, that sweet childhood innocence
has gone. But I'm still here to call out my
dad as a douchebag. And while our beloved John C.
Dvorak is no longer with us, the best podcast in
the universe is here to call out my dad as
a douchebag. Douchebag! Without the Gitmo Nation community and the
best podcast in the universe, I would have grown up
retarded like all my friends with swollen amygdalas. Shout out
Fitz. Instead, I've grown up a free-thinking human resource, being
able to recognize retard when I see it, and importantly,
recognize when I'm being retarded myself, and so I keep
my amygdala in check. Now, more than ever, Gitmo Nation
needs your time, your talent, and your treasure. For the
sake of all our human resources, the children of Gitmo
Nation, like me, who have grown up with no agenda
for most or all our lives, go to no agenda.com.
to donations.com and donate now. We must secure the existence
of our podcast and the future of Git Donation children.
There you go. Think of the children, please. And thank
you to the group in Rebo, Nevada, for your Noah
Jenimita report. ITM, this is Dame Rita. This is the
best meetup ever. Really, connection is protection. And I wanted
to put out a word to Mimi and the Dvorak
family, Adam, Tina, love and life. In the morning, this
is Cyril from Reno. Connection is protection. We love you
guys. Thanks for all you do. This was so inspiring.
Thank you, Adam, and RIP John. And you just make
the world a better place, and you make us and
our households a happier place. Thank you. And these people
have been great. Cool. In the morning. In the morning.
This is Kevin at the Reno. meetup. Last time I
donated to the show John actually misgendered me, which is
the first time I had been misgendered since I was
in middle school and had long hair like Kurt Cobain.
Sending a lot of love to the Dvorak family and
love and light. In the morning, came to the meetup.
Adam, pray for you, Tina, and the Dvorak family. Take
care. In the morning, this is Raul from Sparks, Nevada.
I got to meet Dame Rita and these wonderful people.
Thank you, John, for everything you did. You were an
amazing man, and we severely miss you. Adam, Tina, Mimi,
Buzzkill Jr., the entire family, you guys are in our
hearts and prayers and our condolences. Thank you for everything
you've given us for all these years. We love you
guys. Connection is protection. Coming from JJ's Pi Code, the
No Agenda crew is amazing. Ah, there it is. We
got a server in there. Love that. Thank you so
much. I hope I got all the meetup reports crawling
back out of my email, which has been quite busy,
as you can imagine. Hey, there's three meetups taking place
today. The first one is the Indiana August JCD Greek-Irish
Wake at 3 o'clock. So that is underway at Blindall
Brewery in Indianapolis. I'm sure we'll get a beautiful report
from Annette. That is Dame Marie and Sir Mark of
the Greenwood, who always hosts that. The Ants and the
Antipods. This is the Sir Chris Wilk, Chris, the drunk
minstrel meetup, which probably happened yesterday. I think in Australia.
Is it Monday already? In Merrickville, New South Wales, the
gasoline pony. So hoping to get a meetup report from
him. I'm sure we will. And the Central Arkansas JCD
Memorial kicks off at 6 o'clock. A dude named Jared
now in Arkansas is organizing that. If you want to
go, then all you have to do is go to
noagendameetups.com to find... Find out all the details about that.
Coming up in August, we have Maastricht on the 28th.
That's in Limburg in the Netherlands. Nanaimo, British Columbia on
the 29th. Albuquerque, New Mexico on the 29th. Rhode Island
on the 29th. And Zurich, Switzerland also on the 29th.
Looking forward to meetups from all of you. On the
30th, Chester Springs, Pennsylvania, Raleigh, North Carolina, and looking at
September. On the 6th, Medford Lakes, New Jersey, Catawaba River,
North Carolina, the 12th, Boise, Idaho, the 15th, Scottsdale, Arizona,
the 17th, Charlotte, North Carolina, and Petaluma, California, the 19th,
Wilmington, California. We have meetups through October. including the October
17th Fredericksburg, Texas meetup. I hope you all will join
us for that. And, of course, we have the big
19th anniversary coming up. Was it the 26th or the
28th of October? So we will be celebrating. Bittersweet, of
course, without JCD. But he's looking down or looking up.
I hope it's looking down and I'm sure he was
smiling. Thank you all very much for your meetups. We're
organizing them for sending in meetup reports. Go to a
knowage in the meetup, particularly now. This is a great
time. You will meet people that you never would have
met otherwise, and you will connect with them immediately. And
as you know, connection is protection. These people will be
your first responders in any emergency. Go to noagendaMeetups.com. Easy
to search. Easy to find one near you. If you
can't find one near you, you know what to do.
Start one yourself. Easy and always a party. Sometimes you
won't. I'm gonna go hang out with all the nights
and days. Be where you won't be. Triggered on hell
or lame. Be where you won't be. Everybody feels the
same It's like a party Alright everybody, that's it for
episode 1897 I'll be back on Thursday I'm not quite
sure who will be joining me, but we'll find someone
appropriate and fun. If you can't wait until then, check
out We Get to Do This on Wednesday. I do
it with Pastor Jimmy. If you are decloaking, coming back
to your faith, if you're Christ-curious, check us out at
WGTDT.com. And, of course, I'm looking forward to a great
No Agenda. at noagendadonations.com. If you're still on that modern
podcast app or on noagendastream.com, stay tuned for Grimerica 776,
Living from the Soul. Of course, JCD loved the Grimerica
show. He's been on it, I think, at least two
times, maybe more. So give those guys a listen. Thank
you. And take care of yourself, Gitmo Nation, coming to
you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country and
leaving you with one more Just Baker end of show
mix. We will see you on Thursday. Till then, adios
mofos, a hooey hooey, and such.