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Fatty at the front. Adam Curry. It's Thursday, October 1st,
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2026. It's Thursday. This is your award-winning Kimbo Nation Media
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Assassination, episode 1908. This is No Agenda. Coming to you
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from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here
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in Fredericksburg, Texas. We got a really big show for
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you because, of course, it is the best podcast in
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the universe. Yet another brand new name in our list
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of guest hosts. The best co-host coming up in less
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than 90 seconds, the one, the only, Mr. D.H. Unplugged,
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Andrew Horowitz. In the morning, slaves, the podfather's in the
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chair. And today on the other mic, he brought his
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calculator. The calculator. We'll be right back. We'll be right
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back. Gallicent is a gang of issues We'll be right
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back. couldn't hold a line but horowitz he got it
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nailed no agenda prime ladies and gentlemen a guest host
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to raise the ticker and room andrew horowitz in the
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morning yeah that's some of that super intelligence for you
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Wow. We love our guest co-hosts here at the No
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Agenda show. That has put a big smile on my
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face. I got to tell you something. This is so
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much bigger. This studio, this impressive, I mean, the No
2:17
Agenda studio, I didn't realize it was this kind of...
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And the green room? The green room? How did you
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know that I liked peppermint tea and angel food cake
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before I got on the air? I mean, this is
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this is this is star treatment. This is star treatment.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Andrew Horowitz from the Disciplined Investor and
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DH Unplugged. This is this is like Ghostbusters. The streams
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are crossing. Anything could happen in the next three hours.
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Anything could go wrong. Anything might go wrong. Andrew, how
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you doing, brother? In the morning to you. I am
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great in the morning to you, sir, the best podcast
2:51
in the universe. Glad to be here. You know, people,
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we got to talk a little bit about you because,
2:57
sure, people know who you are, but a lot of
2:59
people may not who are just tuning in. We've known
3:01
each other for probably 15, 16 years, and you knew
3:06
John maybe even a little bit longer than that, right?
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Yeah. Yeah, I think John and I would have had
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our 18th year on DH Unplugged, and it was from
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way back in the days of Leo Laporte, Twit, and
3:17
all that. And then I met him, and I met
3:19
you. You and I met each other in London once.
3:23
Yeah, in London, right. I remember that. And then I
3:25
had that show going on, and we had all this...
3:30
crossover between John and then I was doing something with
3:33
you and Ron that I don't think ever worked out,
3:35
but nonetheless. Wait, wait, wait. I don't remember. What were
3:38
we doing? I was in your office. I remember you
3:41
in the office, but then I remember like, I just
3:44
talked to Bloom. I can't deal with this. And I
3:46
don't think anything came of it, did it? That's what
3:48
I'm saying. Pretty much that's what happened. I mean, Bloom...
3:51
Bloom missed a fantastic opportunity. It was early days, let's
3:56
be honest. It was early days. None of us knew
3:58
exactly what was going on with all this, right? I
4:01
got into the podcasting because I wrote my first book,
4:04
The Disciplined Investor, Essential Strategies for Success, and I was
4:08
like, And my publisher says, you know, I have a
4:10
great idea. It was back in 2007. I have a
4:12
great idea. I'm like, what's that? They said, you should
4:14
do a podcast. And I said, the fuck is a
4:16
podcast? That's what I said. Wait a minute. Who was
4:19
this? This was a very modern publisher. Who was this?
4:22
This was Harcourt, I guess it was, for the first
4:24
one. Oh, okay. Nice. So, yeah, it was amazing. And
4:28
then actually I went out to Cupertino. And Cupertino, they
4:31
helped me with setting up my really grand system with
4:34
GarageBand. Yeah. Oh, what a nightmare that must have been
4:38
for you. Yes. Yeah. And did that and then ran
4:42
the first one. I think the first Discipline Investor podcast,
4:46
first episode was March 2007. So now coming up on
4:49
20 years. Wow. Wow. of that episode. And then about,
4:53
I don't know, eight months later or so, I think
4:56
it was right after No Agenda, John and I, after
4:59
knowing each other a bit, He said, let's do it.
5:02
Well, he said something. You know the story there, right?
5:04
Well, I know exactly how that went. John went, hey,
5:06
I should stick close to this guy. He might give
5:08
me some good stock tips. I'll reel him into a
5:11
podcast. That's probably what he was thinking. We were talking
5:14
during the financial crisis. I remember so distinctly. I think
5:17
I told you this once before. I was walking around
5:19
my pool in my backyard, and I'm like freaking out.
5:22
And somehow John and I started talking once a week
5:24
for about an hour for whatever reason. Yeah. And he
5:27
was on his flip phone or whatever, and I'm talking
5:30
to him. Yeah. And somewhere halfway between a sentence on
5:35
one of the calls, he said, you know, a lot
5:39
of people would really like listening to this. Let's do
5:41
a podcast. I'm like, who wants to listen to this?
5:44
That's how the best podcasts start. They start as people
5:47
having a conversation and deciding to hit record. It's absolutely
5:50
true. It's so true. Now, what people don't know is
5:53
you've been a radio guy for a long time, predating
5:56
all of this stuff. I, yes, that's true. I had
5:59
the money doctor show with Andrew Horowitz. The money doctor.
6:03
Hello. Hello. Wait, hold on a second. Hello. Is this
6:06
the money doctor? I need some help with my finances
6:10
all messed up. Can you help me, Mr. Money Doctor?
6:14
That's pretty much how it went. And it was funny.
6:17
My show, this was a paid-for thing on 740 AM
6:19
whatever radio. It's the big 740 AM. Ladies and gentlemen,
6:25
here is the money doctor. Andrew Horowitz. I was very
6:28
nasal at the time. I talked like this, and I
6:30
didn't know how to project yet with a decent microphone.
6:35
And... And what was interesting was all the other shows
6:38
that were on the air. Wait a minute. Did it
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go like this? And we'll be right back after this
6:43
message. Gold! That's it! That's right. You need gold in
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your portfolio. I'm telling you, that was it, right? Was
6:48
that it? It was worse. It was worse. And I
6:51
got to remember the name of this. My sponsor was
6:54
an arthritic shoe company. Oh, a Medicare scam. Okay. They
7:00
sent me these things to wear, those ones. And I
7:03
wore them because I said, listen, if I'm going to
7:05
average. Advertise these things. I got to seriously wear these
7:08
things. Comfortable is going to be the ones that are
7:10
oversized. It looks like you have a club foot. You
7:13
know, that's comfortable. Very comfortable. They were called SAS shoes.
7:17
That's what it was. Oh, goodness. And I would wear
7:19
them as I was on the air. I'm like, look,
7:21
I'm wearing the shoes right now. They're very comfortable. I
7:23
had to do a host read on this thing. And
7:26
they paid me like $350 a show or $300 a
7:28
show or $300 a month or whatever it was. Yeah,
7:31
whatever. So and then I was the only show that
7:34
actually got calls. All these other shows, what happened was
7:37
all these other shows were constantly promoting themselves. And I
7:42
decided way back when, I'm not going to promote. I'm
7:45
just going to educate. And let's see how this goes.
7:48
And what happened was that when I gave away the
7:50
phone number, the phone bank with the producer on the
7:53
other side of the window at the radio station would
7:55
all of a sudden show me that, you know, give
7:57
me a number, four lines are lit or whatever it
7:59
was. I remember being there a couple of hours before
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and sometimes an hour after to the other shows that
8:03
were there. Never got a call. And these guys were
8:06
so pissed off at me. Yeah. I can imagine. The
8:10
money doctor. It's a good one. It's a good one.
8:12
The money doctor. And now you're a successful money manager
8:16
in Florida. Have you always lived in Florida, actually? I
8:20
don't know. You're a Floridian by nature? No, you're from
8:22
New York, aren't you? New York. No, I came from
8:24
New York, man. So I came from New York in
8:26
Long Island. I'm a Long Island boy. Yeah, Long Island.
8:30
Yes. I came. I lived out in Comac. Came down
8:33
here in 87. I was 22 years old. And I
8:37
moved down here with three women, two of which I
8:40
was about to say. There must have been a woman
8:43
involved in this. There was three. I came down here,
8:46
decided, well, I didn't want to live in New York
8:49
through the snow and the horrible weather. I said, you
8:52
know, let me do this early go look somewhere. So
8:54
I went out to California for a week. I was
8:56
in Malibu. I was in L.A. And by the end
8:58
of the week, I said, I don't recall talking with
9:01
anyone out there that had a brain. I don't think
9:05
I could stay there. So I came down to Florida
9:08
because everybody said to me, you know, when I retire,
9:11
I'm going to go to Florida. I'm like, what am
9:13
I waiting for? Why am I going to wait until
9:15
I'm ancient? Retire now. Yeah, why not? So I came
9:18
down here. It was not the Fort Lauderdale that it
9:21
was now back then. That was spring break Fort Lauderdale.
9:24
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Where the boys are. Good times.
9:26
Yeah. Playa. Playa Horowitz. Exactly. So I live with two
9:30
of the girls. One was an Eastern Airlines pilot, one
9:34
was a waitress, and the other person was starting a
9:36
beeper company that moved from – California down to Florida.
9:40
Was she a Mossad beeper company? What kind of beeper
9:43
company was this? There was one of those things where
9:45
you, remember the beepers where you got a beep and
9:47
you had to go to a payphone to make a
9:48
call? Sure, of course. I had one, of course. Yeah,
9:51
and then it elevated to the... One that had the
9:54
numbers on it, or you could put some kind of
9:56
weird messages if you knew how to spell with numbers.
9:58
Or just do 911. Always 911. Yeah, exactly. So she
10:02
did that. And then, yeah, so then I met my
10:05
first wife. That lasted for a very short period of
10:09
time. Oh, I didn't know you were married previously. Yes,
10:11
I was. She was 11 years my senior. Oh, yeah.
10:15
And it was all about a bet. A bet? Somebody
10:18
in the office said, you know, somebody? I said, look
10:20
at, oh, my gosh, she's cute. My friend in the
10:23
office said, There is no way you're in her league.
10:27
I said, 50 bucks? 50 bucks cost me a lot
10:31
more than 50 bucks. I hear you. I hear you.
10:35
So then I met Jill, of course, and we have
10:37
three kids, twin girls and a young fine man. Yeah.
10:41
And we've been out and hang out with you guys
10:43
and we love Jill and we love you. I think
10:46
the last time we saw each other, I had sun
10:47
poisoning. You took us to the yacht club, and I'm
10:52
like, I've got to go home. Yeah, it was bad.
10:57
So, Adam, just to let anybody know, if you haven't
10:58
seen him, he's a little fair. He was outside maybe
11:00
in Florida for maybe 10 minutes. He got some poisoning.
11:04
Everyone's like, I think I'll just have clam chowder. Well,
11:10
we've got to get together again. It's been far too
11:12
long. It has, yeah. Well, you always want us to
11:14
go on cruises. We're like, no, we're not going on
11:16
the cruise. Here's Andrew. Hey, I've got a great idea.
11:20
This is a great gig, an 80s cruise. I'm like,
11:22
are you out of your ever-loving mind? I'm not going
11:25
to go on an 80s cruise with a bunch of
11:27
60-year-olds who want me to sign their boobs. Like, no,
11:30
no, we're not going to do that. All right, okay.
11:33
I get that. I get that. I tried to actually
11:36
hook you up to get paid for that cruise. That's
11:38
what I was trying to do. Oh, no. Listen, I
11:40
get these offers a lot, but I can't. It's just
11:44
no. It would be so depressing. I don't go to
11:46
certain concerts. Last time I was at a Yes concert,
11:50
I was in the concert, and Rick Wakeman, the keyboardist,
11:53
puts on – spectacles you know he puts on readers
11:56
and i'm like oh my god then i turn around
11:58
i'm like Who are all these old people in the
11:59
audience? And you're the youngest? Is that what it was?
12:03
I was pretty much the same age, I think. Yeah.
12:05
That was the problem. So we talk from time to
12:08
time and we chat. And it's usually you're much better
12:11
than I am. You know, you'll call up. Tina actually
12:13
has a retirement fund with you and she loves you
12:15
for it. She's like, Andrew's making me money. And you're
12:20
always like, hey, should we have a call? Tina's like,
12:22
no. Just keep on going. Just keep on going. It's
12:27
fine. Everything's good. But you're just a lovely guy. And
12:31
you were actually the first person I spoke to after
12:33
Mimi, after John passed. You were the first one that
12:36
I spoke to. Yeah. Yeah, so DH Unplugged, which has
12:40
kind of been a crossover promotional mechanism with no agenda.
12:46
Obviously, you did that with John for many, many years.
12:49
And now you're continuing with JC, with John Estivorek, with
12:54
the junior. How's that going? Yeah. Yeah, which S stands
12:58
for son of John DeVorex. Yes, it does. It's going
13:01
surprisingly well. Yeah. You know, he's a much different character.
13:06
He is a highly intellectual thinker. John was a slow
13:13
– John was brilliant, right? We know that. Yeah. But
13:16
he was a thoughtful – thinking about Few word, very
13:23
pointed, and that's all you needed, right? Yeah, and then
13:26
he would say, that sounds like bull crap. Yeah, yeah.
13:30
Thoughtful thinking. John Hassan is very technically inclined. A lot
13:34
of times I'm talking to him and I'm like, uh...
13:36
I think I need to put that on half speed.
13:38
I don't exactly know what just happened, but he's great.
13:42
No, he's great. And he's really, he's really brought a
13:44
lot and a change. And we have a new newsletter.
13:48
He's working on a new website and all sorts of
13:50
things. And, Right now, the audience seems to like what
13:54
we're doing, so I'm really happy about that. Oh, good.
13:56
And you're doing video now, too, which is a little
13:58
different for the show. Yeah, we do video, but we
14:00
do the video really for short take. So we record
14:03
the whole show with video, which we have. But then
14:06
we use short take videos for promotions on Instagram, Twitter,
14:11
Facebook. Things like that. Oh, you've got a whole machine
14:13
going there. Yeah, it's a production. Speaking of Instagram, the
14:17
No Agenda account hit 5,000 followers. And that means that
14:22
there is now a picture published of John's – well,
14:26
it said of John's office. I don't know if you
14:28
saw this picture. It went out in the newsletter, too.
14:31
I did see it. A little bit of a letdown.
14:33
It's like – I want to see the reverse angle.
14:35
Like I get the desk and all that, and that's
14:38
fun to look at and zoom in on. But I
14:40
want to see what's in the background, man. Where's the
14:42
pile of cans? You know, there's a lot of stuff
14:46
that I feel we should be allowed to see. I
14:49
want to see the closet door that's being propped up
14:52
with two by fours to keep it closed. Exactly. Exactly.
14:57
Oh, man. Oh, man.
15:00
Well, I'm so happy that you actually called me and
15:02
said, I want to do the show. I'm like, okay,
15:04
good idea. Yeah. You have all these great guys. You
15:07
have Bernetti. You have Calacanis. Calacanis, which I need to,
15:11
Jason, if you're listening, I sent you a couple of
15:13
emails. Please get back to me. You got to DM
15:16
him on Twitter. That's the only way. He doesn't respond
15:19
to anything else. Which means he has to follow me.
15:20
If he doesn't follow me, I can't do that. So
15:22
I got to figure that out. I'll connect you. I'll
15:23
connect you on X, man. I got you covered. There
15:26
you go. He was on the show, The Discipline Investor,
15:28
back in 2008. Hmm. When, you know, he was just
15:33
gaining his popularity. Yeah. And now he's all over the
15:35
place. All in. These are very, very, you know, these
15:39
co-guest hosts have been incredibly polarizing. So first of all,
15:44
the AI songs, 70% love it, 30% love it. hate
15:48
it with such a passion really oh they email me
15:52
i'm unsubscribing from the show i'm like i'm like dude
15:56
you can you can hit the fast forward button with
15:59
two taps yeah i can two taps i've unsubscribed from
16:03
the show It's like people go out of their mind
16:07
about this stuff. And I think it's actually kind of
16:09
cute. You know, it's gotten to the point where, you
16:11
know, it's all about the lyrics, I guess. I mean,
16:14
the music is just what it is. This is this
16:17
is the future. I mean, things are things are going
16:20
to change that we haven't even thought of yet. I
16:23
mean, we have a song. Here, I have a song.
16:24
Can I play you a song that was done by
16:26
AI for us? Yeah, sure. So I think this will
16:28
work. Basically, I had a listener. I said, look, I
16:30
was all over the Tara thing, you know, back last
16:33
year. And I'm like, I won't play the whole thing.
16:35
Let's see if this is all AI. Yeah. The Yorker
16:45
Look at my There comes the chorus. You've got to
17:05
snap a little bit. Yeah, baby. Anyway, I thought it
17:09
was good production. Well, interesting you bring that up. I
17:13
was going to start with something else or come back
17:15
to that, though. But I mentioned to John months ago
17:19
about the 232 tariffs. And I said, you know, the
17:23
232 tariffs is that's the stealth that's going on. All
17:26
these other tariffs everyone's bitching and moaning about, they're irrelevant.
17:30
And the way I read these 232 tariffs was instead
17:34
of paying a percentage of tariff over the percentage of
17:39
steel In anything imported into the United States, you now
17:43
had to pay the full whack over the any over
17:47
the full price of whatever had steel in it. So
17:49
that's cars and, you know, washing machines, you name it.
17:52
And that's exactly what came to fruition yesterday. With the
17:58
Patriot pellets. Have you been following the Patriot pellets? I
18:02
have not. What are the Patriot pellets? Oh, the Patriot
18:05
pellets. Oh, well, listen to this. Once completed, Wasabi Metallics'
18:10
new steel plant will produce 10 million tons of steel
18:13
per year using iron ore from the companies Minnesota Mine.
18:18
And Minnesota has, I will tell you, they maybe have
18:20
a lousy governor, but they have great iron ore. They
18:23
have one of the worst governors in history, a real
18:26
stupid guy. But they do have good iron ore, which
18:29
is more important, I guess. But it's the first new
18:32
iron ore mine in the United States in more than
18:34
50 years with the highest quality ore. In other words,
18:39
this seal will be mined, melted, and made right here
18:42
in the USA, which is something very unusual. The project
18:45
is expected to create up to 6,000 new construction jobs,
18:50
nearly 2,000 manufacturing and mining jobs, and add another $95
18:55
billion. to the U.S. economy, which is the number one
18:59
economy in the world by far. The best economy we've
19:02
ever had. We're building... $21 trillion worth of plants and
19:07
others. Now I think we can add this to it.
19:09
I'm not even including this. But this is a tremendous
19:12
investment. And it's going to be over the next 10
19:15
years using advanced steelmaking technology. The plant will produce some
19:19
of the highest quality, most affordable steel anywhere in the
19:23
world. They're going to be making it here. And using
19:27
it here and also shipping it outside and do very
19:30
well. So the president made a deal with RS Technologies.
19:36
I think there's an Indian company or an Indian owner
19:39
for sure. And it's now the numbers all over the
19:42
place, of course. It's either 15 billion or 18 billion.
19:46
They're going to. They've reopened the mine in Minnesota, and
19:50
they're going to take the ore from there and then
19:53
ship it down river to Iowa, and that's where this
19:57
plant is going to be built. And this was all
20:00
co-financed by the – I want to say it's –
20:04
they had some government, they've been setting up these government
20:07
funds all over the place where you can borrow money
20:09
from the government which I think there should be a
20:11
podcaster money borrowing fund and so here's Lutnik and of
20:14
course he was part of the deal. Okay, so these
20:18
are your 232 tariffs, the steel tariffs at work. Without
20:23
those tariffs this mine doesn't get built and this steel
20:27
plant does not get built. Two and a half billion
20:30
dollar iron ore mine that does iron ore pellets. And
20:34
where do we get those pellets from now? We get
20:37
them primarily from Brazil. So we are beholden to Brazil
20:42
to build our steel in America, because the input is
20:45
coming from outside the country. So now we are unleashing
20:48
the iron range in Minnesota, which is the greatest, as
20:53
the chairman said, the greatest set of iron in the
20:56
world is right here in America. We're going to these
20:59
general... to my right from SR they're doing a fantastic
21:03
job two and a half billion dollars for the mine
21:06
and then you go right down to Mississippi to Iowa
21:09
and Right? Where they can build a $15 billion integrated
21:14
steel plant, which will create steel at the same price
21:18
they make it and import it from China. This is
21:21
competitive. If you do it all here and you don't
21:24
ship it from around the world and you don't buy
21:26
it from other people, this is exactly your plan. This
21:30
is exactly why you're doing it, because you're driving steel
21:33
to America. The gentlemen to our right from SR are
21:37
fantastic. This is great for Iowa. It's great for Minnesota.
21:42
This is your plan, living it out in America, building
21:46
$17.5 billion investment, bringing steel, which protects. our national security
21:52
home to America. Well done. Yeah, so I agree with
21:56
this. This is good. And we closed... Anytime, anytime, Howard
22:01
Ludnick, we can bring Seattle back home. Oh, that guy
22:06
is so irritating. He almost sounds like song lyrics, you
22:10
know, you should put him through the AI. Here's the
22:13
SR guy. Thank you, Mr. President. for bringing back the
22:18
importance of building things in America. Yes, thank you very
22:21
much. Well, I was born in India. I went to
22:22
high school in New York, college in Boston, and did
22:25
my MBA in California. Well, you know, hold on, hold
22:27
on. Can I say something? Obviously, he's not just giving
22:32
his resume. He has to say this because everybody that's
22:36
listening is like, wait, wait, wait, wait. We're going to
22:38
do H1B. What is this? Yeah. So everybody's going to
22:40
freak out. All right. I'm sorry. Yeah. No, you're absolutely
22:42
right. I've spent half my life here. So announcing this
22:44
investment today. is a great honor and a true homecoming
22:47
for me. My family and I spend a lot of
22:49
time in Minnesota, where we are investing $3 billion to
22:52
build the first new mine in America in 50 years.
22:55
We will be producing the Patriot pellet very soon. Patriot
22:58
pellet! Which will be amongst the highest quality iron ore
23:01
pellets in the world. I love that. With the new
23:03
steel complex in Iowa. we will complete the fully integrated
23:07
American supply chain from mine to mill. American ore carried
23:11
on American railroads to an American steel plant powered by
23:15
American energy, built and operated by an incredibly hardworking and
23:19
talented American workforce. Mr. President, this plant will use the
23:24
latest technology and will compete head-to-head with any steel plant
23:28
in the world on size, quality, and on cost. This
23:32
project writes the next chapter for our company and our
23:34
family, and it is your policy and your own leadership's,
23:37
Mr. President, that I made this possible. Thank you, sir.
23:40
There you go. Now, of course you didn't hear about
23:42
it because, you know, there's a million other important things
23:44
going on in the world. Like, I don't know. There's
23:48
a lot of. Well, can I just talk to you
23:49
about something about this? Can we continue with this for
23:51
a second? Yeah, sure. So Prashant Rui, Rav Ruiya, Rajiv
23:55
Agawal. Panak, Kharah, Deepak, Mashwara. What do they all have
24:00
in common? They are all in the steel industry. They're
24:04
all the directors of SR or managing directors or the
24:07
hydrogen power CEO. All these guys. They're bringing the money.
24:13
Isn't it interesting that I was involved? So close to
24:18
the midterms. Well, hello. This is what you do, of
24:24
course. This is clearly what you do. Again, just to
24:26
continue the reality check of what we're talking about. Oh,
24:30
well, of course. And if you listen to the local...
24:33
The local media in Iowa, well, well, you know. President
24:37
Trump stood in the Oval Office yesterday and announced what
24:40
he called a done deal, a $15 billion steel plant
24:44
in Lee County. But tonight, TV6 Investigates has found the
24:47
administration's claims about the project don't match reality. That's iffy.
24:51
On the ground, investigative reporter Matt Christian. and has been
24:55
digging into land records, permits, and the fine print. Well,
24:58
what do we say, Matt? It's billed as a game
25:01
changer for Iowa's economy. Backers say the plant will produce
25:05
10 million tons of steel by 2030. Enough to make
25:08
Iowa the nation's number two steel producer. Mesabi Metallics, the
25:13
India-based company behind the plan, says it would create 5,000
25:16
to 6,000 construction jobs and about 1,700 permanent Iowa jobs.
25:21
At the White House on Monday, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick
25:24
and President Trump described a project that's already moving. No,
25:28
I think this deal is done. This deal is done.
25:30
They've already worked it out. That's why we're all together
25:32
with the president. The president doesn't bring people together unless
25:35
it's a done deal. You guys know that already. You
25:38
already started building. That's not true. TV6 investigates reviewed Lee
25:42
County land records. We found no major property purchases tied
25:46
to the project this year. County officials say they don't
25:49
have details from the company about its plans, No permits
25:52
have been filed. Oh, well, there you go. This is
25:55
what's great about audio, by the way. We have a
25:57
guy that's telling this thing, it's not true. The ability
26:00
to listen to the... to the way people speak and
26:03
their intonations versus having to watch it. I mean, that
26:06
guy definitely had a nasal problem. Yeah. Yes, for sure.
26:10
Not to mention the fact, by the way, that North
26:12
American leader in, in Patriot pellets or in pellets is
26:14
Cleveland Clips, a U S firm. Clearly, um, in, in,
26:19
In Brazil, there are leaders there as well. Vale is
26:21
one of them. But we have other producers around the
26:23
world, Bahrain, Sweden, all sorts of places. So the idea
26:27
that we're buying only from and the – Well, the
26:31
context of the trying to tell the story from them.
26:33
Is that the pellets? The pellets. The pellets. Where did
26:35
we get the pellets? Cleveland Cliffs is the largest producer
26:38
of iron ore pellets in North America. But that's not
26:41
Patriot pellets. That's Cleveland Clumps. It's very different. They're very
26:45
different products. Got to write that one down. Yeah, I
26:49
was going. You need a bell on that. Where's the
26:51
bell? No. There it is. Ring of bell on that
26:53
one. Cleveland clumps. But this is what you do here.
26:57
The whole thing of what you're doing and what's great
26:59
about this and what's great about the people are just
27:01
not reporting the news is that the deconstruction part or
27:05
the – it's not just for the entertainment values, I
27:08
see it. It's for the education value. Well, sure. Sure.
27:11
You look at what Hassett talks about, right? So tomorrow,
27:13
a big day is coming out. You have the jobs
27:15
number, the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Before you go there,
27:19
let me just talk about the inflation numbers with you.
27:23
Okay. So it's the PCE. What does that stand for,
27:27
PCE? PCE is the personal consumption expenditures. Okay. So the
27:34
PCE numbers like, wow, this is great. It's three-tenths lower.
27:39
Who expected it? We didn't know. Come to find, they
27:42
used a whole new way of calculating the numbers going
27:45
back to 2021. Okay. Yes. They already knew this. There
27:50
is a, John and I, we talk about this all
27:52
the time. There's a movie that Jerry Lewis had called
27:54
Don't Raise the Bridge, Lower the Water. And this is
27:58
kind of what happens. If you don't like the statistical
28:01
results, what you do is you change the methodology. There's
28:04
a website called Shadow stats. John Williams. Shadowstats.com, yep. You
28:08
know him, right? John Williams, an old guy. He's supposed
28:10
to be on the show recently. I don't know if
28:12
something's going on with his eyesight or something. He keeps
28:15
the methodology identical from what it was back in 1980
28:19
for a lot of his various series. So the inflation
28:21
series, we'll see where it is. If we follow the
28:24
inflation series back to that point, I don't know, we're
28:27
somewhere at like – a 10% inflation rate right now.
28:30
But since they didn't like the fact that the rental,
28:35
the real estate pricing, the real estate pricing they used
28:37
and they don't want to use that and they take
28:39
it out. And my favorite thing, It's when they say
28:41
ex-food and energy. Inflation, ex-food and energy is flat. Core
28:44
inflation. Because we don't drive, we don't eat. No, we
28:48
don't need to eat. Okay, so it's obviously, it is
28:52
clearly, clearly a scam. But the jobs numbers, and I
28:55
guess you probably, yes, you have clips. So the jobs
28:58
numbers, my problem with that is, It's completely unreliable because,
29:02
you know, in a month from now, like, you know,
29:05
the jobs numbers, we're restating them, you know, was either
29:09
over or under. It's like they're always restating them. This
29:13
is this. I don't understand how that works. Don't they
29:16
just have. You know, a database and out pops the
29:19
number. Why? Why is it always being restated other than
29:23
for investment scam purposes or investment scam or political benefit
29:26
of making it look good? I think they have a
29:29
really outdated model. They use some birth and death models
29:33
for things like businesses and employment. Some of the ways
29:36
they use it, like ADP uses payroll numbers, which seems
29:38
like a way to do it for me. You've got
29:40
the payroll companies around the world, around the country that
29:43
are doing this. When it comes to the government, which
29:47
just by their very nature, they're inept. Yeah, of course.
29:51
The ability to collect this data. is somehow very difficult.
29:56
It's a timeless issue, and they're very
30:00
Why don't we just ask Facebook? Ask Meta. They'll tell
30:03
you who has a job and who doesn't. I mean,
30:05
it seems very easy to get all that information. They
30:09
can't do it. And then they even go so far
30:11
as once a year doing a seasonal adjustment, readjusting. We
30:15
had like an 800,000 or 900,000 job differential a few
30:20
months ago. That was lower than the expectation was, but
30:23
they bury that, right? And this is how it goes.
30:27
The market, if the market doesn't know, it's all about
30:31
the market. Yeah. If the market doesn't know something happened
30:34
a year ago, right? Something terrible happens, but the market
30:37
doesn't know, they don't react. And then when they can
30:40
come out with that, they have their ability to release
30:43
the information now because we could we could steal. But
30:47
here's the thing. You're clearly on the inside because, you
30:50
know, you're you're making Tina's numbers grow bigger than it
30:54
would in the bank. So clearly you've got an inside
30:57
track or what is your what is your formula? The
31:01
formula is we go out and we hit him in
31:03
the mouth. I do. I hit him in the mouth.
31:06
All these economists, I hit him in the mouth. It
31:10
is to be skeptical, understand that this information is usable,
31:15
but it is not necessarily investable and understand the bigger
31:19
picture, what people doing, the psychology of money. the behavioral
31:23
finance part of all this is really the backbone what
31:27
it it's taken me by the way many years to
31:29
figure this out because at first like oh we got
31:31
a bad employment number sell everything you're like we've got
31:33
the golden cross we're above the 50-day moving average exactly
31:37
get get out get in you know it'd be every
31:40
day you'd be moving back forth the thing is that
31:44
i think with the time that I've looked at all
31:47
of this and understanding by the way that the government
31:50
has a desire to keep things going no matter what,
31:54
no matter how many trillions of dollars they're going to
31:58
backstop this with and ruin our economy, ruin the country,
32:01
ruin the debt, ruin the dollar. And I Everybody has
32:05
a vested interest, including the company. So we have to
32:07
understand. One time I was in – brings me back
32:11
to a story. One time I was in Costa Rica.
32:13
and I was with Jill and we were riding around
32:15
I was with five chicks in Costa Rica yeah I
32:18
was with Jill and we're riding a horse it was
32:20
bareback actually we had the what is it so you're
32:24
barebacking Jill on a horse I'm sorry I was I
32:27
got you okay I'm with you and she's on a
32:29
horse I'm on a horse I had to be as
32:30
my guide it's like the Jack Palance of Costa Rica
32:33
okay we're going around this mountain, this very thin path,
32:36
and Jill is freaking out. She says to me, the
32:40
horse, I'm getting off the horse. The horse is going
32:43
to fall off the mountain. And I said, look, the
32:45
horse doesn't want to fall off the mountain just as
32:47
badly as you don't want to fall off the mountain.
32:49
Hang on to the horse. It's the same thing with
32:52
these markets. You're making me cry. Because I know, Jill,
32:57
I can just hear like, Andrew, Andrew, the horse. Okay.
33:04
So now I say it's the same thing with investing.
33:06
You hold on to the horse. The markets, the companies
33:09
don't want to go down. The government doesn't want it
33:10
to go down. The investors don't want to go down.
33:12
That doesn't mean it always goes up and you've got
33:14
to watch for those signals. Yeah. You've got to watch
33:16
for when it's going to be a problem time where
33:18
when, for example, in March, when I saw what was
33:21
happening last March – We pulled out a lot of
33:23
our what's called duration. We moved our bond holdings much
33:26
differently, seeing that there was going to be an inflationary
33:29
environment. And that saved us all that downstroke where we're
33:32
seeing the 30-year bond is the highest it's been today.
33:35
It turned around a little bit, but highest it was
33:37
since 2002. It's not helping the mortgage market, the real
33:41
estate market. And, you know, all the things that we've
33:45
discussed on DH and Plug with circular financing of companies,
33:48
all that stuff that I've been harping on for the
33:50
last six months, we kind of make sure to stay
33:53
away from that or move somewhere else to benefit. So
33:56
you have to – it's like tea leaves in a
33:58
way. And maybe only certain people can read those. I
34:02
don't know. I'm not saying I'm the best by far,
34:05
not the best. But you have to understand that there's
34:09
a lot of static that comes across with all of
34:13
these readings from the economic reports. And even from corporate
34:19
earnings reports. I know for a fact. Oh, dude, I
34:22
remember. Let me just tell you a story. When we
34:24
had Think No Ideas, it was public. It was the
34:27
first company I had with Ron Blue. And so we
34:29
had an analyst from, I think, the underwriter. And, you
34:35
know, the analyst is there to provide coverage. And it
34:39
was some Indian dude. He was a nice enough guy,
34:41
but we just... We just go in there and we
34:43
just say, oh, man, we're doing so great with our
34:45
advanced network analysis language, the locally managed network operating protocol.
34:51
It's all it's really so. And he'd be writing this
34:54
down, anal, LMNOP, you know, and he would provide guidance.
34:59
Oh, these guys are going to knock it out of
35:00
the park. It was stupid. It was completely stupid. It
35:04
meant nothing. And I know for a fact that there
35:08
are a lot of the presidents, vice presidents, CEOs, that
35:13
during their commentary on their earnings call, which is live,
35:17
are watching their stocks. Oh, of course. And how it's
35:20
moving. Yeah. And then readjusting like another paper comes out
35:23
and goes in. Oh, don't talk about that. Yeah. And
35:26
all of a sudden, how's this, you know, in the
35:27
ear, how's the stock? How's the stock? How's the stock?
35:29
Oh, it's moving up on that. Keep on that one.
35:31
Keep on that page. Stay on that. Yeah. Oh, wow.
35:34
Let's play these jobs clips to set it up. What
35:36
do you got? So this is the process. So this
35:38
is the, again, tomorrow's a number coming out, but. This
35:41
is Kevin Hassett, which I've always said, again, if you
35:43
listen to DHL Plugged, a man with an ill-fitting shirt.
35:48
He's a total nerd. He's a total nerd. He doesn't
35:51
look very clued in, honestly. No, he looks like a
35:54
– he's something out of – he looks like –
35:58
He's he could be Janet Yellen's son. You know, he
36:01
looks like and I think he's the chairman of the
36:04
president's economic advisory board. I think is that that's who
36:08
he is. Yeah. You ever watch Ted Lasso? Yeah. So
36:13
the guy Higgins, who's the who's the office manager of
36:17
the of the football club? Okay, I go with that.
36:20
That's what Hassert looks like and acts like to me,
36:22
like this little scaredy cat guy. He's in books, and
36:24
he comes out and goes, oh, yeah, everything is great.
36:27
He's fantastic. It's all good. So he comes out because
36:30
he gets that morning after CNBC and Bloomberg and all
36:33
these guys. They go to him. He's the Council of
36:35
Economic Advisors. They go to talk to him. He's standing
36:38
on the White House lawn, usually. Right, so he's the
36:40
guy. the July numbers that come out and his commentary.
36:43
The council director, Kevin Hassett, on the decline of thousands
36:46
of jobs in July. Oh, is this C-SPAN? It sounds
36:49
like C-SPAN. I don't know. That's good. That's good. According
36:52
to the latest jobs report, we'll also hear him address
36:54
concerns about the impact of the U.S.-Iran war on the
36:57
American economy. Don't know. This is just under 10 minutes.
37:00
Yeah, C-SPAN for sure. *thud* Tight, Andrew. Tight clip. Thank
37:06
you. Thank you. Well done. Here it comes. I'm hearing
37:10
noise. Here he goes. Where is this? What are you
37:15
doing? I don't know. This is the clip. Oh, that's
37:17
awesome. What's the turkey to say? Are all your clips
37:20
out of phase? I don't think so. Hold on. Let
37:26
me see if I can fix that. Wait, what's happening?
37:28
I don't know. All I'm hearing is background. Hey, guys.
37:32
Until I... start getting overheated. I said I'd take a
37:37
few questions. Oh, there he is. We'll see how long
37:39
I can handle this. This shouldn't be that long. This
37:41
should have been clipped right. Thanks a lot, Kevin. What
37:43
do you make of the new numbers as it relates
37:46
to the labor department's employment numbers, some negative growth as
37:49
it relates to employment? Right. Well, first of all, the
37:53
momentum in the economy continues to be strong. We see
37:56
durable goods orders, capital spending through the roof. People aren't
38:01
being laid off. Initial claims to unemployment insurance are about
38:04
the lowest they've had since World War II. And so
38:06
when you see a number like that, it seems like
38:08
it's dissonant. Okay. All right. So this is him denying
38:12
and talking about durable goods for some reason versus the
38:15
whole thing, right? And talking about... All sorts of items
38:20
and aberrations. That was the July one, right? And goes
38:23
there. Then he comes into August and... I don't know
38:26
what's about to happen when you play this, but... It
38:29
looks better. The waveform looks better. It should be okay.
38:31
He goes into August... when there's a better number out,
38:34
right? So, and then he starts with this. We're all
38:37
kind of bracing for maybe a softer number after ADP,
38:40
after some of the Jolts hiring rates figures earlier in
38:43
the week. What do you think flipped the switch? Well,
38:45
you know, last time we talked about how there was
38:48
a bad number, but a lot of it was sort
38:49
of seasonal stuff with teachers. So I was kind of
38:52
expecting a pretty good number. good number because I thought
38:55
there'd be a bounce back on that. But this number
38:58
was way, way better than I expected. And it wasn't
39:01
just me. We went back and looked and 77 people
39:04
posted their forecast at Bloomberg and this blew past everybody.
39:08
So this number was above anybody's forecast. And by a
39:12
lot, it was four standard deviations above the mean. And
39:15
so it's a really blockbuster number. And then when you're
39:18
trying to say, well, why did it happen? If you
39:19
dig down, then what you can see is that there's
39:22
a lot of policy success underneath it all. And so
39:25
capital spending is through the roof. It's getting set to
39:28
about double since President Trump took office relative to GDP.
39:32
And you're seeing the construction of factories through the roof,
39:36
so employment. One of the most interesting things to me
39:38
in the data is that since President Trump took office,
39:41
employment for people who are building factories has gone up
39:44
by 90,000. So think about how many future jobs that's
39:47
going to create. Yeah, well, I mean, first of all,
39:52
there was a 100% one year write-off of all capital
39:55
expenditures, so it seems like they spiked the numbers with
39:58
that. Well, the massive swings in the timing of school
40:02
years between July and August, local government... Education payrolls actually
40:07
crashed by 58,000 in July, but all came back in
40:09
August. He doesn't talk about that. Oh, okay, because everyone's
40:12
off. I got you. Right, and then July distortions, the
40:15
World Cup, there was a whole thing there. They were
40:17
reversed. It was weird hiring that went on with restaurants
40:20
and things like that during the World Cup. That was
40:23
in the early summer, not discussed as it was expected.
40:26
Huge impact. And then if you actually look deeper into
40:30
all of this, what was interesting was that LinkedIn, indeed
40:35
hiring, they talked about a spike representing isolated rebound from
40:40
earlier summer weakness rather than a shifting long term trend.
40:44
So the first one he comes in. discusses not labor
40:48
but the durable goods orders okay right say the second
40:51
one pat on the back policy Oh, my God. Trump
40:55
is doing a great job. We have it. That was
40:58
a discount the whole old. So that's this is the
41:00
kind of setup that you get. You have to know
41:02
what to listen to and who to listen to. So
41:04
what do you take away from this? What is your
41:06
crap? Oh, crap. OK, let me invest on that. By
41:10
the way, you're going to be competing now with every
41:13
every snot nose with a Robin Hood account. now that
41:16
they're going to have AI trading in Robinhood. Have you
41:19
been following that? Of course. I mean, we've looked into
41:22
this idea as well. Listen, back years ago, I tried
41:25
to set up neuro... Oh, I tried this. Linguistic, blah,
41:28
blah, blah. Oh, yeah. It works... It works until you
41:31
push the live button. It always works on historical data.
41:37
See, my app would have completely made me a billionaire
41:40
on this historical data, and then you do it on
41:42
real data, and it's like, what? What does that happen?
41:46
I'm telling you, I spent months working on things, and
41:48
as soon as I clicked the switch, I'm like, wait,
41:50
is that – what does that sound? What is it?
41:52
That's my wallet trading. That's what my sound is. Yeah,
41:55
exactly. Well, what? They just had a secondary offering? What
41:59
happened to my stock? It's the AI side of it.
42:03
What's going to end up happening is that everybody's going
42:05
to jump on board with this, and you're going to
42:07
see AIs fighting AIs. No different. than we've had beforehand
42:11
with algorithm trading, algorithmic trading. Yeah. That's a big thing.
42:15
Computers trading now, the idea that we can hold up
42:17
a certain part of the market while selling off another
42:20
one to make liquidation happen, but yet not hurt the
42:24
index. Thereby, I can trade underneath. Hold index or options
42:28
on the index and hold my position while I'm liquidating
42:31
on the other side. There's all sorts of fun things
42:33
that happen in this market. But no matter what we
42:35
say for the next however long discussion today, the market
42:40
in the world is one of the single best creators
42:43
of wealth there is. So we have to remember that.
42:47
No, there you go. There you go. As much as
42:50
we may hate it. Who needs Patriot pellets when you
42:53
got Horowitz and Fort Lauderdale? Yeah. There you go. There
42:56
you go. There's also, I mean, but again, I'm always
42:59
looking for where the BS is. So, um... So there's
43:06
big concern about the higher cost of capital, right? And
43:12
that's going to hit our pocketbooks. And I'll just translate.
43:16
That means borrowing money. Borrowing money is much more difficult.
43:20
Housing prices are still elevated. Can I play some clips
43:22
here? Sure. Sure. I've got two here from CNBC. This
43:26
was an analyst about people's savings. In the last three
43:30
or four years, values have deteriorated with the rise of
43:34
interest rates. And I think values, depending on the property
43:38
type, could be as much as 50 percent in some
43:41
– but on average, I'd say about 20 percent. Loss
43:44
of value. He's talking about commercial real estate. Now, where
43:48
that is playing into the business is the fact that.
43:52
This guy's very dynamic. I'm sorry. There's a wall of
43:55
free financing that has to be done. The number I
43:59
saw was about $750 billion in the next two years.
44:04
That's kind of crazy. Does that scare you? If I
44:08
had debt, I would be petrified. If I had debt,
44:12
I'd be petrified. Why? The extend and pretend party is
44:18
over, and banks are being more aggressive about either selling
44:23
off the loans or... trying to dispose of the assets
44:29
one way or the other. And so for ownership, the
44:34
truth is that, you know, the rubber hit the road
44:36
now and there's going to be a lot of... opportunities
44:40
and also a lot of heartache as a result of
44:43
this. So that's commercial, but now the individual. A lot
44:47
of people are focused on affordability and how they're paying
44:50
for everything. And your report has an increasing number of
44:52
households that are supporting their spending by drawing on their
44:56
investments. Tell me a little bit about that. That's right.
45:00
I think a lot of people have the sense that
45:02
with the stock market going up so much, it must
45:04
have something to do with consumer spending. But a lot
45:07
of people don't have a sense of exactly what households
45:10
are doing. Families like yours, families like mine. And that's
45:13
one of the really distinctive features of our data is
45:15
it lets us really see in a granular way what's
45:17
happening with everyday households. And so... What we did was
45:21
we looked at investment accounts to see how much money
45:25
was coming out of those investment accounts, going into checking
45:28
accounts where people can spend that money as a way
45:30
to get a lens on this question. We found two
45:32
really interesting things. One... The frequency in which people are
45:37
pulling money out and the amount of money coming out
45:39
of those accounts to fund that spending has gone up
45:41
nearly doubled really since 2019 to 2026. And then two,
45:46
we found there's some really important differences in terms of
45:49
like who's getting that money, who's using that money. This
45:53
is a phenomenon that's most pronounced for older families and
45:56
people with higher incomes. So is this people taking money
46:00
off the table or are they just trying to survive?
46:04
Look, I haven't seen it. There's the other discussion that
46:07
you have, how many trillions of dollars of cash sitting
46:09
on the sidelines. So this idea that people are pulling
46:12
money out, people always pull money out, right? They have
46:15
RMDs, required minimum distributions. at age 73 that they have
46:20
to start taking from their IRAs. People do things like
46:22
they need a roof, right? Most people are much more
46:25
invested today than they ever have been. So a lot
46:27
of their money is tied up into their accounts. I
46:30
don't know. I haven't seen. I haven't seen any studies.
46:33
I haven't seen it here. People are like, hey, I
46:35
don't know. I don't know. I can't live. Sometimes people
46:38
lose their jobs and they have to tap. But the
46:41
other guy was talking about commercial real estate. That is
46:45
a bigger issue. That's been funded, leveraged by private credit.
46:49
That really gets its mojo by low cost of capital,
46:54
which is, again, lower interest rates. And everything is built
46:57
upon... These very fancy models that are done, it's built
47:01
upon an interest rate of, let's say, 3%, 4%. You
47:04
now have a 7% or 8% interest rate. You no
47:08
longer can make the money that you've made before. And
47:10
those private credit deals that are out there, they're now
47:13
coming to maturity. They're usually short term. After a build,
47:16
we'll do a bridge finance. We'll do something. to maybe
47:20
a makeover deal. And now that usually lasts four to
47:24
seven years, something like that. Well, it is four to
47:26
seven years come up and now they need to refinance
47:28
for something. And nobody's out there willing to do it
47:31
or they're not willing to come in for less than,
47:33
let's say, nine percent. And this whole deal was predicated
47:36
on a four percent interest rate to make any money.
47:40
Hmm. So things are clamped down in some areas. That's
47:45
probably why Besson came out recently with his concern. Buffalo
47:48
Besson. Buffalo Besson. Buffalo Besson, yeah, with his very big,
47:52
bad bond-buying blunder, which is – Yeah, that didn't do
47:58
much, did it? No. As a matter of fact –
48:01
When he did that, I said, bad move, man, because
48:03
when the Treasury comes at that level saying I'm the
48:07
house, don't bet against us. That's crisis talk. So now
48:13
since then, his six billion dollars of monthly buying has
48:16
done absolutely nothing. He gives the counterfactual. He says, it's
48:21
a counterfactual argument. What's the counterfactual? How much worse would
48:25
it have been if I didn't do it? Job saved
48:28
or created. Uh-huh. Exactly. Wow. Oh, okay. Oh, interesting. Well,
48:34
I mean, obviously, solution. We're just going to tokenize everything.
48:37
I'm going to tokenize this podcast. Everything will be a
48:40
token. You can trade on the No Agenda show right
48:42
there in your Robin Hood app. Everything's tokenized $900 trillion
48:46
worth of assets. That's going to keep us going for
48:49
at least another 15 years. It's interesting because the Robinhood
48:52
is trying to tokenize a lot of equities, and really
48:54
that goes to be supposedly they're saying it's going to
48:57
be fully backed and held. By actual equities behind the
49:01
token. Oh, at the DCCCC, whatever that thing is. Yeah,
49:06
but if you're doing that, why are you doing that,
49:10
right? If you're going to do that, if you're going
49:12
to back it fully by the actual stock. Yeah. Just
49:16
buy the stock. I mean, why do we have to
49:18
do something different here? It's kind of weird. I want
49:21
to just, I've been looking at the quad screen all
49:23
morning. We'll come back to some financial stuff. But the
49:26
quad screen all morning, the BBC has had story after
49:30
story after story nonstop. And it's one story and this
49:35
is it. We start with breaking news this hour, coming
49:38
in from the United States, where there is uncertainty over
49:42
the outcome of an execution in the state of Tennessee.
49:46
Death row prisoner Krista Pike was given two lethal injections
49:50
after the U.S. Supreme Court cleared the way for her
49:54
to become the first woman executed in Tennessee in more
49:58
than 200 years. But her current condition remains unclear. Prison
50:04
officials have not announced a time of death and her
50:07
lawyer says she has been taken to hospital. Some of
50:10
those who witnessed the execution have now spoken to reporters
50:14
outside the prison describing what they saw and heard inside.
50:18
So they go on and on and on, and this
50:20
is ridiculous, and America is crazy, and they're no good,
50:24
and this is just an outrage. I'm like, well, maybe
50:28
the BBC in the UK could actually help us. Strangely,
50:31
these days, I use my stethoscope more to determine if
50:34
someone has no heartbeat. Dr. Konya Troughton has administered lethal
50:38
doses. to hundreds of patients. She says MAID is working
50:44
well in Canada. We need to hire this lady, obviously.
50:48
Start an intravenous. There we go. Start the intravenous. Start
50:51
it through there. Okay, and then I'd secure it in
50:53
place. injecting the drugs means it usually takes only a
50:58
few minutes to die. Why can't we get this lady
51:01
and her protocol? It seems like that's a slam dunk,
51:06
BBC. Yeah, I have a clip on this as well.
51:09
Oh, you did? What do you got? Yeah, it's all
51:11
at the end. Botched execution. So this was a female,
51:15
only woman in Tennessee death row ever. And failed twice
51:18
at the lethal injection. Overnight, a failed execution. In a
51:22
case that's grabbed national attention. Nothing about today was normal,
51:27
typical at all. Krista Pike, the only woman on Tennessee's
51:31
death row, surviving two lethal injection attempts. Pike now being
51:35
treated at a nearby hospital, according to her attorneys, who
51:39
say they do not know her condition. Journalists who witnessed
51:43
the attempted execution described Pike snoring and complaining about pain.
51:47
I covered all the executions last year and most of
51:51
the ones this year. We haven't seen anything like it.
51:55
It went really poorly. Pike, now 50, has spent nearly
51:59
three decades on death row after being convicted of torturing
52:02
and murdering a classmate, Colleen Slemmer, in 1995, when Pike
52:07
was 18 years old. I love you! She would have
52:10
been the first woman put to death in Tennessee in
52:13
over 200 years. Now, my thinking on this... If you
52:18
survive it, you should be like, go. You're free to
52:21
go. Palazzo Compresso. Palazzo Compresso. You know what that is?
52:24
No. This is when the emperors would throw the people
52:27
in the Colosseum and they fight to the death. And
52:30
a lot of people think when the thumbs up goes
52:32
up, they live, right? No. No, no. When the thumb
52:35
goes up, that's actually the opposite. Oh. Oh. The opposite
52:40
means it symbolizes an uplifted sword. Oh, I didn't. Make
52:44
it swift. The victorious gladiator should execute the loser. We're
52:49
hiding the thumb for mercy is, what is it called?
52:52
Palaccio compresso. Where's this despair of the gladiator? So I
52:56
don't know my vote. If I was emperor here, I
52:59
got a hidden thumb. Let her live. Let her go.
53:04
She suffered. And especially because she was... This is a
53:07
tough woman snoring through a lethal injection. No kidding. I
53:10
mean, that's outrageous. That's outrageous. Yeah. So the world is...
53:16
Well, at least the world is looking at something other
53:18
than... Well, we got it. We got to do the
53:21
breaking news, breaking news, breaking news. Nobody knows anything. Sources
53:25
have been very clear in saying this was an altercation,
53:27
a violent incident between pilots, then prompted an emergency signal.
53:33
I want to take you through the timeline here that
53:36
just after we saw the aircraft dropping, and this is
53:39
really dramatic. from an altitude of around 34,000 feet to
53:43
16,500 feet in just under two minutes, which happened at
53:48
around 1.20 a.m. Eastern. Then an emergency signal was sent
53:52
out at 1.32 a.m. Israeli officials said this was not
53:57
a hijacking, so that's really important because there were initial
54:00
concerns when that emergency signal signal was sent out. This
54:03
was a violent incident between the pilots. And then this
54:07
was so seriously taken, and of course because the entire
54:11
region is dealing with just so much tension, that the
54:14
Israeli Prime Minister and Defense Minister held a security consultation.
54:18
Israeli fighter jets signals were scrambled because of this. And
54:23
then if we look at flight radar data, flight takes
54:26
off from Dubai. Then when it's over Saudi airspace, this
54:29
is when eventually it starts diverting. It's now landed, according
54:34
to Fly Dubai, in Tabuk. Quite important here that Fly
54:38
Dubai has not confirmed that this was indeed a violent
54:41
incident between the pilots. This reporting drives me nuts. It
54:47
was... from 30,000 to 16,000 in two minutes, 33,000 to
54:52
16,000 in 30 seconds. It was a hijacking. They were
54:56
squawking 7,500, but they weren't. 7,700, the pilots were fighting.
55:00
They weren't. There was a knife. It was this. It
55:02
was that. ABC has a different version. Israeli Prime Minister
55:06
Netanyahu now says a pilot on a fly Dubai flight
55:08
stabbed a pilot and tried to crash the plane. New
55:12
video from inside the plane shows the moments the altitude
55:15
dropped. You can hear passengers asking what's happening. The plane
55:19
eventually landed safely in Saudi Arabia. And now Israeli officials
55:23
are working to get passengers back home safely. And, of
55:25
course, trying to piece together what happened here. Chief Foreign
55:29
Correspondent Ian Pannell has the details for us. Ian, what's
55:32
the latest on this investigation? Yeah, Diane, I mean, I
55:35
think it is increasingly looking like a terrorist incident. That's
55:38
certainly what Israel is calling it right now as we
55:40
start to get more and more details about what took
55:43
place. Here's what we know right now. Flight from Dubai
55:46
to Tel Aviv, making a sudden diversion after issuing emergency
55:50
distress signals. Minutes after a general alert, it then sent
55:53
an emergency warning of a possible unlawful interference or hijacking.
55:58
As you say, Prime Minister Nassim Yahoo is saying that
56:01
one pilot stabbed the other and tried to crash the
56:04
plane. As the flight Dubai craft was about an hour
56:08
from landing. It suddenly suffered this rapid descent, plunging from
56:12
34 to 16,000 feet in three minutes. Three minutes. This
56:15
makes a big difference. 34 to 16,000 in two minutes
56:21
or three minutes makes a big difference what your rate
56:23
of descent is. Clearly. And nobody – this is ADS-B
56:27
data, which is – You know, it's a generally good
56:31
indicator, but it's not telling you it's not giving you
56:34
second by second. So, you know, if this thing was
56:37
going down at six thousand feet per minute, you're not
56:40
rushing forward to anything. You're plastered against the ceiling if
56:43
you're not buckled in. So this story is all over
56:46
the map. There's all kinds of it's because nobody knows
56:49
anything, really. I heard that, first of all, how to
56:53
get a knife in there, right? I heard the emergency
56:56
axe. It's called the crash axe. Yeah, you got the
56:58
crash axe in the cockpit. But if you want, okay,
57:01
this is a Boeing 737 MAX 8. If you want
57:04
to crash the plane, there's easier ways than stabbing the
57:10
pilot. You just lean back in your chair, you cut
57:14
the engines, put your feet on the yoke, press it
57:17
forward. Good luck. And there was a story that it
57:20
was saved by a man who ran into the cabin,
57:24
which you would think the cabin door was open. And
57:26
then they finished a story that I heard was, and?
57:29
He was a plumber. Oh, yeah. No, no. This story
57:32
is great. It gets even better. Citizens of Israel. This
57:36
morning, there was a highly severe security incident on a
57:39
flight from Dubai to Israel. Almost all the passengers on
57:42
the flight were Israelis. During the flight, as they approached
57:46
the country, one of the pilots stabbed the other pilot.
57:49
He apparently tried to crash the plane with its passengers.
57:55
I spoke with one of the Israeli passengers. He told
57:57
me that the plane entered a tailspin and began to
58:00
die. No, okay. tailspin? Now we're in a tailspin. Wow.
58:05
No, you're not in a tailspin. This is not happening.
58:08
Let's hear from President Trump, who spoke to Bibi himself.
58:12
I did speak to Bibi Netanyahu at length about this
58:16
event, and it seems as though the co-pilot was perhaps
58:22
a terrorist or perhaps a whack job. A whack job?
58:27
Well, that's an official terrorist. He shared the pilot. The
58:29
pilot was in very bad shape. And I guess he
58:33
still is in very bad shape. But he had the
58:36
sense to, amazing, to, in a way, he was a
58:40
hero... To open the door, you know, those doors are
58:43
solid steel. You can't get them open from outside. Yeah,
58:46
the early reporting, you know, the passengers broke down the
58:48
door. No, you're not. No. It's pure steel. It has
58:51
to be open from the inside. It's. The distance from
58:54
either pilot's seat to open the door, you can do
58:58
it just by leaning back, basically, and opening the door.
59:01
And I guess that's what happened. But again, nobody knows
59:03
anything. He was able to fall back and get the
59:05
door open and scream. And a plumber, an Israeli plumber.
59:10
Plumber. Never flew a plane. He was rarely in planes.
59:14
Very rarely flew. Very rarely flew. Here we go. An
59:16
Israeli plumber saw what was happening. And having never flown
59:21
a plane, he took the stick, lifted it up, and
59:25
leveled out the plane before it crashed. I love the
59:29
technical analysis of our president. He took the stick. Okay.
59:33
No, there's no stick. No. It could be. It's not
59:37
a side yoke. It's a yoke. It's a yoke. It's
59:40
not a stick. But OK, Mr. President, this is a
59:42
story that I heard. I don't know if it's true.
59:44
Good. I'm glad he said that bit. Thank you. Thank
59:47
you. That's the story that I got from B.B. And
59:51
from. A couple of probably earlier. I don't know if
59:54
you've heard that story yet. I think it's an amazing.
59:57
So a plumber never flew a plane. Strong guy.
1:00:00
Lift them up, throw them back. The crowd was... They
1:00:05
knew they were going to die shortly because of the
1:00:07
G-forces, but they were able to hold them. Yeah, okay.
1:00:10
The magical G-forces went away. Sure. Because he was going
1:00:13
crazy. And he was crazy. And this plumber, never having
1:00:18
flown a plane... had the sense to lift a stick.
1:00:22
Who was it? And you know, it's not like planes
1:00:24
are different today. He used to have a little steering
1:00:26
wheel. Today, he's like differently. Today, it's like a little
1:00:29
steering wheel. And when I asked why he did that,
1:00:32
he said he watches that show, Air Disasters. You know
1:00:36
the show? That's good preparation. Crazy. That's the best part.
1:00:39
I never want to watch it because I watch it.
1:00:41
I don't like watching it because bad things happen. But
1:00:44
he said he watches it a lot. And he learned
1:00:48
from watching that show sort of how to fly. All
1:00:54
right. So first of all, I have questions. First, I
1:00:57
need to call Dana Brunetti. Attention, Dana Brunetti. Coming, coming,
1:01:01
coming this fall. The plumber. Okay. We got to do
1:01:05
a movie about this guy. You need to have a
1:01:07
plumber that can fly a plane and a pilot that
1:01:09
can fix a toilet. That would be great. Yeah. Same
1:01:12
guy. It's perfect. Okay. I got a couple more clips.
1:01:16
Go ahead with your questions. If there was how many
1:01:18
pilots on the plane inside the cabin? Well, two. Two.
1:01:22
So you had two pilots. Just hear me out here.
1:01:24
You had two pilots. One's the stabber. One's the stabby.
1:01:27
One's bleeding profusely. He's in bad shape. He was hit
1:01:30
by an axe. The other one is the terrorist slash
1:01:32
crazy man, whatever. The plumber goes in and he picks
1:01:35
up the stick and levels off the plane. Yeah. Who
1:01:39
lands the plane? Oh, no, no. There were all these
1:01:42
other pilots in the back. Oh, no. There were pilots
1:01:46
on dead heads and all kinds of pilots hanging around.
1:01:49
And they went in. They landed the plane. Oh, that's
1:01:52
good. Now, they show an aircraft with its rudder broken.
1:01:57
which could happen... In a tailspin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That
1:02:04
could happen in a tailspin. We'd have more pieces to
1:02:07
look at. But you don't necessarily need that to land
1:02:10
the plane. In fact, you know, you can do more
1:02:13
with the engines than anything. But it seems... The whole
1:02:17
thing makes no sense. And I heard passengers saying, I
1:02:20
heard him saying, say, al-Akbar. Like, okay, maybe. But let's
1:02:25
listen to Bibi Netanyahu. Maybe we'll get some more clues.
1:02:29
Mr. Prime Minister, thank you very much for joining us
1:02:31
tonight. Thank you. Good to be with you. This is
1:02:33
a day that could have ended very differently. What do
1:02:36
you know at this hour about exactly what happened? I
1:02:38
think what happened is a tremendous act of heroism that
1:02:41
prevented another 9-11 style. Oh, bring out the 9-11. 9-11
1:02:46
style. There you go. There's reasons he's doing this. Crash
1:02:50
of an entire airplane. What we know is that this
1:02:54
plane that was heading from Dubai to Israel, as they
1:02:58
approached Israel, one of the co-pilots stabbed or hit with
1:03:03
an axe. Oh, so now he has the axe bit.
1:03:06
That's interesting. He's got the axe bit. Other pilot, an
1:03:08
Indian pilot. And the pilot that was hit... bleeding profusely,
1:03:15
fighting for his life, managed to unlock the pilot's door.
1:03:19
But the plane was going into a nosedive. Now we're
1:03:23
nosedive. So someone's talked to him like, hey, B.B., listen,
1:03:26
man, you got to get this right. You can't say
1:03:28
tailspin, OK? Nosedive. All right, maybe. They heard the screaming.
1:03:32
A passenger, an Israeli passenger, Sitting in row 18, rushed
1:03:37
to the cockpit. Through the G-forces of 6,000 feet per
1:03:42
minute, yes. 18 is high. Yes. It's the lucky number.
1:03:49
Yes. It is the lucky number. It is the special
1:03:53
thing. You give a gift of a multiple of 18.
1:03:55
18, that's right. 36. Like that. Yep. Little things you
1:03:59
got to catch here. Oh, no. Perfect. I was going
1:04:03
to say it, but you nailed it. You had the
1:04:04
hype. - Hi, hi. - Hi, hi. - Hi, hi.
1:04:08
- Yeah, hello. - Hi. - Hello. - And let's
1:04:10
listen again how Netanyahu says that number. - He was
1:04:12
going into a nosedive. When they heard the screaming, a
1:04:17
passenger, an Israeli passenger, Sitting in row 18. Oh, yeah,
1:04:21
he's messaging it. Row 18. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hi. A
1:04:27
nosedive. When they heard the screaming, a passenger, an Israeli
1:04:32
passenger sitting in row 18, rushed to the cockpit, trying
1:04:37
to open it. When the plane started to nosedive, it
1:04:41
was thrown aside in that area where the stewards are,
1:04:44
the flight attendants are. And somehow he managed. There was
1:04:50
a moment where I think they hit an air bump
1:04:52
or something. And anyway, he had the opportunity. The tail
1:04:55
broke off. He went through the door, bus through. He
1:04:59
saw the pilot that attacked the other co-pilot between the
1:05:04
two seats trying to jam the equipment. Now, this this
1:05:08
is another thing that bothers me. What is the mission
1:05:11
of this guy to jam the equipment? I mean, he's
1:05:16
always standing in between the console. I mean, what is
1:05:20
he trying to do? Jam the equipment? This doesn't make
1:05:24
any sense. What is there to jam? Are you going
1:05:27
to break the glass or try and rip the engine?
1:05:30
If you're trying to kill everybody, then there's a lot
1:05:33
of things you could have done. So maybe he wasn't
1:05:36
trying to do it. Maybe they got in a fight.
1:05:39
Maybe he was trying to unscrew the spark plugs or
1:05:42
something. The flight equipment. Obviously, it looks like he wanted
1:05:47
to obviously bring the whole plane down. No, that's not
1:05:50
obvious. That's the not obvious part. Pulled him from behind,
1:05:54
pulled him back, then unbelievably took the stick... pulled it
1:06:01
back. This is not a pilot. This is a plumber.
1:06:04
A plumber. This is what he does. I asked him,
1:06:06
what do you do for a living? Because I met
1:06:07
him at the airport when he came, when they all
1:06:09
came back to Israel. And I said, what do you
1:06:11
do for a living? And he said, well, I'm, you
1:06:14
know, I'm, I unclogged, Sewage clogs. And I said, well,
1:06:18
you certainly unclogged a big one this time. Okay. Those
1:06:23
policies are funny. So here comes the real messaging. And
1:06:27
regardless of what happened on this aircraft, and we won't
1:06:29
know until we have cockpit data recorder, cockpit voice recorder,
1:06:33
everything else is just conjecture. People have, I mean, oh
1:06:37
my. The pilot forums are the worst right now. People
1:06:40
are piling in. There's no analysis from anybody because we
1:06:45
literally have no data, just some ADS-B, publicly available data,
1:06:50
which is, you know, leveled out, normalized. You really don't
1:06:54
know what the descent rate was. If what they're saying
1:06:58
is true, it's amazing the plane didn't fall apart. When
1:07:01
you're going 100 knots, 100 miles an hour roughly over
1:07:07
your VNE, velocity never exceed. The plane should be falling.
1:07:11
Maybe it was an Airbus. It might have melted. I
1:07:13
don't know. So kudos to Boeing. But Bibi Netanyahu is,
1:07:18
you know, the same along the same lines as Rahm
1:07:20
Emanuel. Never let a good crisis go to waste. That's
1:07:24
exactly a specific fear. Do you have intelligence about a
1:07:27
planned 9-11 style attack on Israel? Not a specific 9-11
1:07:33
attack. That is not the issue. The issue is... What?
1:07:36
Going back on what you said? Okay. ...attacks against Israelis
1:07:42
abroad and inside Israel itself. That's what we do have.
1:07:45
Be afraid. Be afraid. Indications. Attacks. That the Iranian proxies,
1:07:50
Hamas and Hezbollah in particular. Cower in place. Are planning
1:07:54
attacks on us before the election. More coming. What? What
1:07:58
did he say? What did he say? That the Iranian
1:08:02
proxies, Hamas and Hezbollah in particular, are planning attacks on
1:08:07
us. Honest before the election. Ah, there it is. Before
1:08:11
the election on October 27th, which is going to be
1:08:14
one of the most contended elections of his career. And
1:08:19
whether this is some people say it's a false flag.
1:08:23
I don't know. This seems to be a lot of
1:08:25
evidence that. Yeah. Something really happened. Was it some MKUltrad
1:08:32
co-pilot? Because you can't come up with any other explanation
1:08:37
for someone who wanted to hijack the plane in a
1:08:40
9-11 attack because you need to have it flying so
1:08:43
you can't be dismantling it. And did you really want
1:08:46
to crash it? Well, you could have done that without
1:08:49
all the drama. So maybe, you know, you got someone
1:08:52
to do something, someone nutty. So what BB Net Not
1:08:56
Yahoo's message is, is you really want to stick with
1:09:00
the lion. The line is going to protect you because
1:09:04
they're planning all kinds of stuff before the election. But
1:09:06
I can't say specifically about... airline hijacking, obviously that's now
1:09:11
coming to the roster and we're going to look very
1:09:13
carefully at that. What do you think this day's events
1:09:16
say about the broader security situation in the world for
1:09:19
Israel right now? Stick with me. Well, I think that
1:09:22
we are aware of the fact that there is a
1:09:25
very strong sense of danger that we have because we
1:09:30
know That our enemies are targeting Israelis abroad. Right now,
1:09:34
as we speak. We're very much aware of it. We're
1:09:36
doing what we can. But I think it's part of
1:09:38
a larger picture. It's Iran's ultimate goal. What's with the
1:09:43
laugh, tell, Bibi? Why is that so funny? I don't
1:09:45
think it's very funny. We're very much aware of it.
1:09:47
We're doing what we can. But I think it's part
1:09:49
of a larger picture. It's Iran's. ultimate goal to not
1:09:55
only to kill Israelis and destroy Israel, they chant death
1:09:58
to Israel, death to America, but they call us the
1:10:01
little Satan. Yeah. And the real target is the big
1:10:04
Satan. Oh, okay. So we have something to do with
1:10:07
it. The big Satan is you. That's why they're trying
1:10:09
to develop nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them
1:10:12
to every city in the United States. States. It'll take
1:10:14
them some time, but they're working on this. So I
1:10:17
think that the fact that President Trump is tightening the
1:10:22
economic blockade on Iran is very effective. I think that's
1:10:26
really bearing fruit. Okay, so what I hear is we've
1:10:29
got elections coming up. And you really you really want
1:10:33
to stick with me because they're targeting Hamas and Hezbollah
1:10:38
are targeting Israelis before the election. And you got to
1:10:43
stick with me because we may be the little Satan,
1:10:45
but the big Satan is America. And I got Trump.
1:10:49
He's going to protect us. But you want to stick
1:10:50
with me. Stick with me. And by the way, people
1:10:53
who are going to vote against me, people thought that
1:10:56
this next clip was about America, but it's about Israel
1:10:59
itself. And so the only way you're going to stop
1:11:02
this is by destroying them. It's like the only way
1:11:04
you got peace in Germany is by destroying the SS.
1:11:07
You didn't say, oh, well, we'll leave an enclave of
1:11:09
the SS and then we'll have peace. No, you destroyed
1:11:12
it. this murderous regime and then you got peace. We
1:11:18
have to destroy this murderous regime of Hamas and then
1:11:21
we'll get peace. And Hamas is being glorified. on American
1:11:25
networks, and especially in social media. Yeah, and in your
1:11:29
own backyard. The LGBTQ movement is very strong in Israel.
1:11:35
You know, I hear gays for Gaza. I liken it
1:11:39
to... You know, chickens for KFC. These people shoot gays.
1:11:45
They're the worst offenders of human rights on the planet.
1:11:49
What about the homos for Hamas? What about them? I
1:11:53
heard that one. The lesbians for Lebanon. Come on, people.
1:11:58
Good Jew jokes, Andrew. Thank you. I've just been taken
1:12:01
in by this vast... campaign of propaganda against Israel. Israel
1:12:05
is fighting for civilization. Israel is fighting these barbarians. We
1:12:09
fought shoulder to shoulder with the Americans against their patron,
1:12:12
Iran, the head of the octopus, if you will. But
1:12:16
we are committed to cutting off these tentacles that can
1:12:20
threaten us. And can kill a lot of Americans. And
1:12:23
by the way, on that day of October 7th, they
1:12:25
killed dozens and dozens of Americans. Okay. There you go.
1:12:30
I mean, I think we know that this is a
1:12:31
big political... I mean, obviously, anything that can and will
1:12:34
be used to help my political career of some sort.
1:12:37
Yes. And the idea of... creating fear that's nothing new
1:12:41
i mean right now this is being done by the
1:12:44
ai companies well not anymore because president trump took good
1:12:48
care of that well yes yes he did well he
1:12:52
got the white something he got the accord come on
1:12:55
first of all first of all andrew no come on
1:12:58
now Let's call it what it is. What is it?
1:13:02
Super intelligence. Super intelligence. No, no, no, no. Can you
1:13:06
play that clip called? You have the call. Okay. Psy
1:13:10
intelligence. They love our country, they love the world, and
1:13:14
they came together and they did something that few people
1:13:16
really, it's almost like a constitution in a way. And
1:13:20
the biggest people in the world signed that. And I
1:13:25
signed it as president, and it really is a form
1:13:27
of protection. Accountable when the AI agents commit a crime.
1:13:32
It's not AI, it's SI. That's the other thing. We've
1:13:35
changed the name officially today. We've changed the name, Steve,
1:13:39
officially to SI. Okay? Okay. Si, like Si, S-I, instead
1:13:45
of A-I. You know what that means? Super intelligence. So
1:13:49
the name, I guess that's really quite an announcement, but
1:13:53
the name has been officially changed by the biggest, the
1:13:58
smartest, The greatest people anywhere in the world at this.
1:14:01
And I was with President Xi a few days ago,
1:14:03
and he would admit, he said, these are the smartest
1:14:06
people in the world at what? Go ahead. Is this
1:14:09
a core that everybody signed? Is it binding in any
1:14:11
way? I think it's morally binding. It's morally binding. It's
1:14:15
great. It's fantastic. Hey, you should be happy. He's keeping
1:14:19
the market alive, man. We can't have this trade unwind.
1:14:23
No, it's this Psy intelligence. Psy. Ho-hum intelligence. It's the
1:14:28
Psy intelligence. We just got to change the name. If
1:14:31
we change the name, it's all good. You know, it's
1:14:33
interesting because... There's no guardrail, self-policing on this, and everybody's
1:14:38
standing behind him, yeah, yeah, shaking their head, yeah, yeah.
1:14:41
And do we trust any of these dudes that were
1:14:46
in that discussion? To behave morally? I'm not worried about
1:14:54
this at all. Okay. I'm not worried about any of
1:14:58
this at all.
1:15:00
It's all marketing. You should know better. Of course. Of
1:15:02
course. This is all IPO marketing. Of course. But I'm
1:15:06
saying that this discussion was so ridiculous that somebody would
1:15:10
actually say that it's binding and we have a moral
1:15:12
binding. Well, it's marketing from Trump. Like, you know, I'm
1:15:18
surprised. Kyle Canis and I talked about this. I'm surprised
1:15:21
they didn't call it Trump intelligence. That would have been
1:15:23
even funnier. It's Trump intelligence. It's all of this. Every
1:15:29
single bit of it is marketing. For the IPO, and
1:15:32
you should want that too, because if they're not successful
1:15:36
with their IPOs, everything's going to come unraveling. And the
1:15:41
worst part is the data centers because that's real estate.
1:15:45
You know, these are real estate investments. Everybody who invests
1:15:48
money understand. They don't understand SI, but they understand, you
1:15:52
know, bricks and mortar. Okay, I got that. I'll put
1:15:55
my money in that. We don't want that to unwind,
1:15:58
and Trump doesn't want it to unwind. And I personally...
1:16:01
I believe we are on the cusp of an outrageous,
1:16:04
incredibly cool moment in time. I would go with super
1:16:10
duper intelligence then. I mean, why stop? Why stop super?
1:16:14
Let's just keep going. Super duper. But it's going to
1:16:17
change. everything. I agree. And I agree. I mean, like
1:16:22
really you won't be buying software. You'll make, you know,
1:16:26
you'll make stuff yourself. I mean, on tomorrow on podcasting
1:16:29
2.0, I'm going to tell everybody, like you're making a
1:16:33
podcast app. You should completely scrap your plans and start
1:16:36
over, you know, make an agent for podcasts. Because that's
1:16:40
what we're still podcast apps are still in boxes. Here's,
1:16:43
here's all my subjects. And here's me, here's my messages.
1:16:47
You know, it is no agenda. And there's the no
1:16:49
agenda messages. There's a DH unplugged and there's DH unplugged
1:16:52
messages. Now, you know, My agent's going to say, hey,
1:16:56
you know, the new This Week in Bitcoin dropped. Hey,
1:16:59
you know, Chris is talking about this, this, and this.
1:17:01
You want to listen to it? Or want to hear
1:17:02
a clip real quick? And hey, there's another podcast that
1:17:05
sounds just like it. It has some interesting other things.
1:17:08
You want to listen to that? Should I subscribe to
1:17:09
that? Should I tell you when it comes? I mean,
1:17:11
all of this stuff is going to happen. All of
1:17:13
it. And that's just that. Your phone is just going
1:17:15
to be a slab. Well, there's so many things that
1:17:18
we can't even think about. Well, the thing is, you
1:17:21
can. You can. You are. People don't know this, but
1:17:23
you're a maker. You program. You've done stuff. You've made,
1:17:27
you know, models and trading things. Yep. So now you
1:17:32
can just make it. You just say, make it. Here's
1:17:36
an admission. As of last week, I am now the
1:17:39
proud subscriber. I bet you're using GrokBot. I'm using GrokBot.
1:17:43
Some very, very super-duper special person told me about that
1:17:46
one. Super-duper. Oh, you mean your friend in Texas, the
1:17:49
super-duper intelligence guy? Yeah. That's him. But as of last
1:17:53
week, I am the proud subscriber to, I think, five
1:17:56
different AI model or AI programs for different reasons. Yeah.
1:18:02
Just the basics. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm just saying I'm
1:18:04
finally paying for everything. It was free for a while
1:18:06
for this one, for that one. Now I'm paying $20
1:18:08
a month for that, $30 a month for that. It's
1:18:10
worth it. It's totally worth it. I can tell you
1:18:12
X, Facebook, Instagram, that's all going to change too. It's
1:18:15
all going away. You'll be like, I got my own
1:18:18
little Instagram with my buddies. I had my agent make
1:18:23
it. But there's still a lot of fear out there.
1:18:26
I mean, there's this hysteria about it. Well, of course,
1:18:28
because we're being told to be afraid. We're all going
1:18:30
to die. The children will never see snow. Come on.
1:18:34
Play mass hysteria. But it's such a beautiful confluence of
1:18:39
the midterms and Republicans being all in data centers and
1:18:44
the flock cameras and Skynet and Terminator and all this
1:18:48
stuff. And people are going out of their minds. But
1:18:51
look, I'm 62. It's like I know what I'm going
1:18:55
to do with the rest of my years. I'm doing
1:18:57
it for Jesus. But everyone else, young people, figure this
1:19:02
stuff out. There's going to be so many opportunities. And
1:19:07
I'm not talking about... making some subset AI thing. But
1:19:11
there'll be businesses. It'll make you more productive. Have you
1:19:16
gotten Jill on any kind of bot? You've got to
1:19:18
get her on Muse. Muse is phenomenal. I'm going to
1:19:21
try that. She has been planning a trip. Yeah. To
1:19:24
Malaysia that we're taking. Mm-hmm. And utilizing primarily the bots.
1:19:29
Yeah. To help us wind through. I was in Italy
1:19:32
and I was in front of a cathedral. Yeah. And
1:19:36
I said, you know, it looks like to me, if
1:19:38
you look at the top, it looks like the 12
1:19:40
apostles up there. I'm not sure exactly what this is.
1:19:43
I couldn't make out exactly what was going on right
1:19:44
from the front facade. I took a picture of it.
1:19:47
I said, here's where I am. Can you explain this
1:19:49
to me? Yeah. Explain the whole thing to me. I
1:19:51
mean, that's rudimentary. I get it. But recipes? I've made
1:19:54
changed bread recipes. And you're a chef. You're a chef.
1:19:57
Let's just say you're a chef. Incredible. Incredible. But you
1:20:01
got to think way broader than that. Of course. Of
1:20:04
course. And then the tie-ins, I get in the office
1:20:07
on a Monday, I get a list of special items
1:20:09
I need to make sure I focus on from the...
1:20:11
uh from chat that that ties into my gmail gives
1:20:14
me a full list of that every day we produce
1:20:16
written like me with the stocks that we own a
1:20:20
full piece that comes back to me to make sure
1:20:23
nothing that slipped through the cracks that i didn't didn't
1:20:26
read but about anything we own do you feel at
1:20:28
any point threatened by these things you're using Do I?
1:20:32
No, not at all. No, of course not. It's a
1:20:34
tool. It's a phenomenal tool. A lot of people out
1:20:38
there freaking out. Well, because they're being told to freak
1:20:41
out and the president is trying to calm it down.
1:20:44
He says, hey, you guys suck. Stop this nonsense. We
1:20:47
can't have the world unraveling over this. It's going to
1:20:50
screw our economy. What are the mag seven at this
1:20:53
point of our GDP? Forty percent. Some outrageous amount. Yeah.
1:20:57
It's going to change things, and if you don't adapt,
1:21:00
you're going to lose. It's just like buggy whips. But
1:21:02
it's going to go really fast. Yeah, I agree with
1:21:05
that. It's going to be a technology. So I was
1:21:07
talking to Pastor Jimmy. And we didn't talk about that.
1:21:11
We do the show. We get to do this, but
1:21:12
we didn't talk about this. So he texted me one
1:21:15
morning, says, oh, man, like I can't put links on
1:21:18
the on the church web on the church Facebook page.
1:21:21
And we're talking about says, well, you can do two
1:21:24
links a month and otherwise you have to pay. What?
1:21:28
Yeah. So if you want four links, you got to
1:21:30
pay $20. If you want eight links, you got to
1:21:32
pay $40. You can. Yeah. Yeah. And I said, well,
1:21:36
is this what is what about the bridge church? Well,
1:21:39
it's a business account. OK. Says, but, you know, we're
1:21:42
a nonprofit. I said, oh, stop right there. Just because
1:21:45
you're non-profit doesn't mean you don't spend money or have
1:21:48
money coming in. It's like there's lots of non-profits that
1:21:51
have to spend money on stuff, and Facebook is now
1:21:54
charging you. So stop with the, oh, but we're a
1:21:57
church, but you look into it. And the reason why
1:22:00
they have to do this with these business accounts is
1:22:02
because people are spinning up bots everywhere. And the bots
1:22:05
are, you know, passive, you know, posting massively gaming the
1:22:08
algorithm. So Facebook has to has to counter that. Well,
1:22:13
what's going to happen? is everyone in the church is
1:22:16
going to have their own bot, and that bot is
1:22:18
going to get alerted by the church bot that there's
1:22:20
something going on on Wednesday night. I mean, I can
1:22:22
see this coming down Broadway. And people, you know, seriously,
1:22:26
I would dump my Microsoft stock I would say Apple
1:22:31
is a good one to hold. I'm going to give
1:22:34
you some advice. Do you want some advice? Do you
1:22:35
buy stocks and bonds? No, I was waiting an hour
1:22:37
and a half already. I'm waiting 90 minutes. Do you
1:22:39
want to leave your wife rich? I'm going to tell
1:22:42
you what to do, okay? Okay, let me get a
1:22:43
pen. So dump all of the software stocks. Dump Office.
1:22:47
I'm sure you're not in Microsoft anyway. Apple has a
1:22:50
real shot because of the hardware they're making and the
1:22:54
chips that they have for local AI models. But they're
1:22:57
arrogant, so I wouldn't allocate too much into Apple because
1:23:01
they're just arrogant, the a-holes. They charge too much for
1:23:04
their hardware. AMD just bought this company that's putting a…
1:23:10
Large language model on the chip, so it's going to
1:23:13
be super fast, easy to run on your computer. You
1:23:15
know, you can't buy Hugging Face at NVIDIA, but NVIDIA,
1:23:19
you probably should have bought that for the stock buyback,
1:23:22
etc. But, and I've always, I have not a fan
1:23:26
of Meta, never been a fan. But Zuckerberg figured it
1:23:32
out. He figured it out with Muse, and he's going
1:23:36
to cannibalize all of his other businesses for this. Because
1:23:39
I've been using Muse now for a couple of weeks.
1:23:42
I see what it's doing. I see how it integrates
1:23:44
into your life. I give it a lot of access,
1:23:46
but not everything, but enough. And it is outstanding. And
1:23:51
I think part of these let's let's just slow down,
1:23:54
people, is because everyone started off with, look, I got
1:23:58
chat GPT. It's a chat button, which I hate. Oh,
1:24:02
well, children are dying. Oh, this thing's not so good.
1:24:05
Okay, committing suicide. Well, we're doing enterprise now. Code. It's
1:24:08
all code. But it's all code, code, code. And then
1:24:11
the enterprises went, wait a minute, I'm giving you all
1:24:14
my business intelligence. I'm not so happy about that. So
1:24:17
I'll develop with your frontier model from your lab, which
1:24:21
is... gobbledygook for dudes in cubicles. And I'm going to
1:24:26
run it on some open source models over here on
1:24:28
my own hardware. And then Zuckerberg flips the script and
1:24:32
everyone saw exactly what he did. Like, holy crap, this
1:24:35
guy has the audience. He can convert everybody to this
1:24:38
stuff. And... I mean, that podcast app example I gave,
1:24:43
I actually built a version of that on Muse last
1:24:46
night, sitting on the couch watching West Wing. And so
1:24:50
the capabilities that you'll have, that's the guy you want
1:24:55
to go with. Everything else, no. I mean, it's all
1:24:59
going to fall apart. I don't think websites will even
1:25:03
be a thing anymore. Here's the new term, AEO. AEO.
1:25:09
Ask engine optimization. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I got some Silicon
1:25:15
Valley jargon for you. Look at that. I got that
1:25:17
in my in my stand up meeting with our EOS,
1:25:19
which is entrepreneurial entrepreneurial operating system. Oh, look at you.
1:25:24
Wow. Just it's like it's like garbage just is flowing
1:25:27
from your lips. And yes, but but these are real
1:25:30
terms that are out there. So it is going to
1:25:34
be I'm happy to be alive now because it's going
1:25:37
to be an outrageous, amazing thing to witness. Now, is
1:25:41
it going to be bad stuff? Oh, yeah. People are
1:25:44
already using their AI to hack into their FSD, full
1:25:50
self-drive systems. There's going to be all kinds of mayhem.
1:25:55
But when the Internet came along… Man, it was mayhem,
1:25:59
too. I remember. I'm never putting my credit card in
1:26:03
the Internet. Never going to do that. It's crazy. Amazon.
1:26:09
Short Amazon. So they're going to be the – oh,
1:26:12
man, the trouble of those guys. Well, Amazon already said
1:26:15
that they're not going to allow for Mews to work
1:26:17
in there because they don't want the arbitrage of the
1:26:21
using Mews to find cheaper rates either with them or
1:26:24
with somewhere else. So my Mews bumped into this. I
1:26:28
said, what can we do? Well, yeah. I can set
1:26:31
up a tunnel into your computer, and then I can
1:26:34
go through your computer using one of your web browsers,
1:26:37
because they fingerprint everything, and it'll look just like it's
1:26:40
you. Okay, let's do that. Boom. It's doing stuff on
1:26:44
Amazon for me. It's going around that. You can't stop
1:26:48
this stuff. And by the way, maybe we get some
1:26:50
healthy competition. The whole idea of, you know, it is,
1:26:57
in fact, the people's weapon against this dynamic pricing trend
1:27:02
that we're seeing. Oh, that is something. As a matter
1:27:05
of fact... There's some discussion about that AOC. He was
1:27:08
all shot up. He was all shot up about that.
1:27:11
We haven't played AOC on this show in years. This
1:27:14
is a wow. Okay. Andrew bringing the heat. This is
1:27:17
something. Okay. Here we go. You want to hear it?
1:27:19
Yeah, of course. What the elite want, and they're already
1:27:23
planning for it, is... to hoard all of the resources
1:27:28
for themselves as the world gets more and more physically
1:27:33
unstable. And in an environment of AI, they want to
1:27:39
wipe out all of our livelihoods. They want to make
1:27:43
sure none of us have jobs. And they want to
1:27:46
keep all the spoils of those riches while consuming and
1:27:50
burning energy at a pace that is completely unsustainable to
1:27:54
make this worse. Because that makes so much sense. So
1:27:57
ridiculous. Vote Democrat. Vote Democrat. Whatever you do, don't vote
1:28:01
Republican because they're going to kill you. Well, of course,
1:28:04
this is great. The idea, the absurdity of the idea
1:28:10
that she's in front of this... More perfect university students
1:28:15
versus billionaires town hall. Yeah. And she is saying that
1:28:19
the billionaires and all these places that you are paying
1:28:22
money to and you're doing work for and all that
1:28:25
once you eradicated because then they can profit more is
1:28:28
so absurd. It makes this ridiculous. Makes no sense. Yeah,
1:28:33
she goes on. AI systems want... It's SI, lady. Get
1:28:37
it straight. It's SI. Didn't you read the morally binding
1:28:40
agreement? AI systems wants us to be dependent and outsource
1:28:47
our cognition to a machine. What? I didn't hear you.
1:28:54
My cognition is in the machine. And... They want us
1:28:58
to increasingly rely on AI systems so that they can
1:29:05
sell intelligence back to us. Well, since when is that
1:29:11
new? This whole thing. First, vote Democrat. Start again. Start
1:29:17
for a second. Start the beginning for a second. Go
1:29:19
to the top. The second clip. Okay, here we go.
1:29:22
AI systems want us to be dependent and outsource our
1:29:29
cognition. Hold on. So she's saying basically – she uses
1:29:34
the they. She's talking about the AI systems like as
1:29:37
in they are alive and cooking already. Like they are
1:29:40
telling – she's making this sound like and creating this
1:29:44
environment that is already a war. Between humans and AI.
1:29:49
They're making decisions. They want this. They're smart. They want
1:29:52
to keep you down. This is the same crap that
1:29:55
she talks about with the Republicans, the rich, everybody else.
1:30:00
out there is trying to keep you down and you
1:30:02
need to reach up and obviously the and commentary is
1:30:07
vote Republican. But first, we always need the antidote because
1:30:12
we're not going to stand for this. We're not going
1:30:14
to stand for them, the AIs, trying to outsource our
1:30:18
cognition. No! But resist, we much. We must and we
1:30:23
will much about this. That, be committed. Exactly, Reverend Allen.
1:30:29
We're going to resist much. And that made more sense.
1:30:31
That made more sense. All right. Both those clips. Third
1:30:35
clip is the third one? Yeah. Yeah. Your data. What?
1:30:39
Someone clap for that? Oh, that's amazing. That's pretty crazy.
1:30:42
Hold on a second. Let me go back here. So.
1:30:44
So. Your data should belong to you. To you. Oh,
1:30:51
yeah. Oh, yeah. Yes, you. You. And it should not
1:30:55
be. We need to understand these systems. AI, data, all
1:31:00
of this are founded on theft. They are stealing what
1:31:07
is yours, your face, your behaviors, your privacy. We have
1:31:13
a right to privacy in the United States of America.
1:31:17
And they are violating that. Might as well. You can
1:31:19
stop there. And monetizing that. You don't have the right.
1:31:21
You do not have the right. You gave away the
1:31:22
right. You signed the EULA. EULA. Yeah. You decided that
1:31:25
you wanted to have a free Facebook, a free Twitter,
1:31:28
a free Instagram. You decided. And then you. Don't like
1:31:32
it. Don't like it. Well, and then we decided. You
1:31:34
know what? Not only that. I am going to puke.
1:31:38
Everything that I do, everyone I see, everything I buy,
1:31:42
everything I like onto a platform that they can just
1:31:46
take and utilize to resell stuff to me. And now
1:31:49
we're pissed off about it. My data, my choice, baby.
1:31:52
Yeah. So I'm telling you. So so Musk actually addressed
1:31:56
this. Yeah. at the little conference they had in the
1:31:59
driveway. And he messed it up, too. Trump's like, give
1:32:14
this to Elon. Elon, I didn't see you back there.
1:32:16
What are you doing? Elon, come on. Come on. What
1:32:19
are the jobs of the future? Elon, go ahead, you
1:32:21
could answer that question. Sorry, the question was about age
1:32:24
of abundance. What are the jobs of the future? Because
1:32:25
people looking at this will be worried, particularly laptop jobs.
1:32:29
What are they going to do in the future? What
1:32:31
are we going to do? Well, I think it is
1:32:32
worth highlighting the positive benefits of AI. Which will... SI.
1:32:37
Whoops! Oh, come on! Oh, come on! Save face real
1:32:41
quick! Thank you! Super intelligence. I think by far the
1:32:44
most likely outcome is an age of abundance, where we
1:32:48
don't have just a universal basic income, we have universal
1:32:51
high income. There we go. There's the new one. Universal
1:32:54
high income. But did you hear when he stepped on
1:32:57
the stage, he said age of abundance question first? Yes.
1:33:02
He knew what the answer was going to be where,
1:33:04
you know, that in other words, it was probably a
1:33:06
softball throne. Oh, well, she the lady even started with
1:33:11
super intelligence SI. So she's all in. Yeah, but I
1:33:15
agree. This whole universal high income, okay, whatever, Elon. And
1:33:21
then he plays all sides of the fence. Like, you
1:33:23
know, your robots are going to do this, whatever. Sure.
1:33:28
But I personally, having used this for the past 24
1:33:31
months, Having taken my workload down significantly for this show,
1:33:36
too, and for other things I'm doing, I'm able to
1:33:39
do more because I have a human job. And, oh,
1:33:42
well, I guess the AI is going to take over.
1:33:46
Good luck. Good luck with taking over my job. You
1:33:48
can't be as bad as I am. It'll be too
1:33:51
perfect. It'll never be good. You can't bake in humor.
1:33:56
You can't do any of those things. This is the
1:33:58
equivalent, in a way, of a very rude, basic, crude
1:34:02
discussion of the difference between using a sledgehammer to break
1:34:07
a rock and utilizing a machine that will do the
1:34:11
same thing. In other words, the task may be the
1:34:15
same. Plate, if you don't mind, mass hysteria. I'm doing
1:34:17
this, by the way, for two reasons. One is in
1:34:19
memory of John. This would have been a John clip
1:34:22
that would have got him just so irritated. Tracy Foose
1:34:26
joins us now. She's a psychiatrist and anxiety specialist. And,
1:34:30
you know, if there's one thing I know about anxiety,
1:34:33
Dr. Fuss, it's that uncertainty can really feed it. Right.
1:34:37
There is so much uncertainty around A.I. right now. And
1:34:41
now you have these predictions that it could lose lead
1:34:44
to the extinction of humans by the end of the
1:34:46
decade. What is your advice for people? There's the vocal
1:34:50
fry of the decades. The decades. What's happening with this
1:34:54
anxiety right now? Well, first of all, Pamela, thank you
1:34:58
for having me on. Thank you, Pam. This is such
1:35:00
an important topic, but I love that you started with
1:35:03
uncertainty. Love it. I love that you differentiated that anxiety
1:35:07
is something we experience as an emotion. That's wonderful. when
1:35:11
we're feeling uncertain about my feelings and we contrast that
1:35:15
with fear which is what we feel when we know
1:35:18
the threat is certain when we're at war there's a
1:35:21
pandemic and it's killing people we know this is literally
1:35:25
neuro-linguistic programming you're listening to me because I'm have fear
1:35:33
because you know pandemic and pandemic and financing your job
1:35:37
and be afraid which is what we feel when we
1:35:40
know the threat is certain when we're at war there's
1:35:43
a pandemic and it's killing people we know and we
1:35:46
could be next a I is different a I brings
1:35:50
up so much uncertainty And AI as a threat is
1:35:53
something that we can't really distinguish. Is this a threat?
1:35:58
Is it not a threat? We're hearing so many different
1:36:01
messages about the threatening nature of AI and also how
1:36:05
AI could save humanity. Save humanity. I'm waiting for it
1:36:10
to cure cancer. They keep promising that. Do you agree
1:36:13
that John would have been all over that? Yeah, he
1:36:16
would have he would have checked out of this conversation
1:36:19
20 minutes ago. He'd be like, this is bull crap.
1:36:22
It's just a database. It's a corpus. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:36:27
One thing that I actually thought this was pretty cool
1:36:32
was the America dot gov. Oh, yeah. You don't like
1:36:38
that? First of all, we talked about this on DHM
1:36:41
Plugged. Did you go to the site? Yeah. Have you
1:36:45
gone to America? Yeah, I did. Yeah, I did. And
1:36:46
what do you think? Did you like it? Do you
1:36:48
think it's a great idea? I think it's a fantastic
1:36:50
idea. Let's go to America.gov while we're here. First of
1:36:55
all, whoever put this together... Let me see if I
1:36:58
get there. Where's America.goo? You can't spell it goo. Dot
1:37:03
goo. Dot goo. America.goo. So the first thing, if you
1:37:06
go there, could you please follow along with me for
1:37:08
a moment? Yeah, hold on. No, hold on. I'm following
1:37:10
along. Hold on. Hold on a second. America.goo. Okay. Yeah,
1:37:14
I'm here. Right. I'm here. Hello, America. I have some
1:37:18
kids. likely from the 70s, jumping off a rock into
1:37:22
a lake. Which is the same picture if you see...
1:37:25
Always as a meme of one guy looking at the
1:37:28
girl, the girl looking back at the other guy. That's
1:37:31
going on here. Let's go to the next one, shall
1:37:32
we? Now I've got a guy standing on the back
1:37:34
of his pickup truck with a lot of seagulls. Now
1:37:36
I've got a Chinese spy in the back of the
1:37:38
car. Now I have some people sitting on the ledge
1:37:41
looking out over the ocean. Now I've got a black
1:37:44
guy. You've got a black guy in an escalator that
1:37:46
nobody wants to be with. Now I got a white
1:37:49
guy with gloves in the workshop. And now I have
1:37:51
a bunch of people being thrown out of their house.
1:37:54
We're getting the same. And then the next one, the
1:37:56
next one, the best, the kid at the airport. Mommy,
1:37:58
mommy, left him. Mommy left him at the airport. And
1:38:01
then there's another one about to strangle her boyfriend. Oh,
1:38:04
there's a dude with a metal detector looking for your
1:38:06
treasure in Fort Lauderdale. Oh, they clearly took the best
1:38:09
one off. It's gone. It was a guy saying, how
1:38:13
do I get like a birth certificate for my kid
1:38:15
or something like that? And it was a kid face
1:38:17
down, planted, spread eagle on a icy lake like he
1:38:21
was just thrown there. I'm surprised the images don't say
1:38:25
shutterstock.com. These are crazy images. Crazy. No, but. And so
1:38:32
I put in there, I say, because you can do
1:38:36
voice. I kind of like the voice. And I'm going
1:38:38
to say, I want to retire at 62. How much
1:38:42
money will I get? That's a pretty American-type question, right?
1:38:46
Okay. The answer, I get thinking. All right. Working through
1:38:50
your requests. I got all kinds of badges, reviewing sources.
1:38:53
Okay. I cannot give you a personal dollar amount. Social
1:38:56
security at 60 depends on your lifetime earnings. Okay. Then
1:38:59
it says what happens. It says I'll get a 30%
1:39:02
cut. And let's see. Then it says here's where you
1:39:06
go for your benefit calculator, when to start benefits. I
1:39:10
found that to be pretty helpful instead of going to
1:39:13
ssa.gov. You could have found this with anything. John Estivore,
1:39:17
I believe, this was done with a – he said
1:39:20
the first people that were on this looking at it
1:39:22
said, what is your AI model? It was some Chinese
1:39:25
model. Well, let's – But now they took that off.
1:39:29
Well, okay. So boo-hoo. I'm running Chinese models. Who cares?
1:39:34
But do you think you need this site and it's
1:39:37
something they're going to disband all the rest of it?
1:39:39
I mean, they're basically trying to systematically – Just, I
1:39:44
mean, some of this would be good if it works.
1:39:46
Let me try this. How can I eliminate my podcast
1:39:50
co-host? Let's see what it says about that. Okay. You
1:39:54
get to shut them down now, I guess. We're going
1:39:56
to find out. Working through your request. Thinking. Working. I
1:40:03
help with official U.S. government services information. I can't help
1:40:06
you eliminate anyone. If you meant leaving or ending a
1:40:09
podcast partnership, that's a private business or legal matter. I
1:40:12
cannot give legal advice. If you have a question about
1:40:15
a federal program, benefit or agency, ask, it gave me
1:40:17
a reasonable answer. I mean, the government is doing a
1:40:21
good job. They're trying to change a lot. They're trying
1:40:22
to get rid of a lot of excess. It didn't
1:40:24
bother me. It didn't bother me. All right. Switch it
1:40:29
up to Hegseth. Well, this I completely agree with Hegseth
1:40:32
on this. Hegseth won. If you ladies leave my island,
1:40:36
if you survive recruit training, you will be a weapon.
1:40:41
You will be a minister of death, praying for war.
1:40:44
Who is this? But until that day, you are pukes.
1:40:47
You are the lowest form of life on earth. You
1:40:50
are not even human fucking beings. You are nothing but
1:40:53
unorganized, grabastic pieces of amphibian shit. Because I am hard,
1:40:58
you will not like me. But the more you hate
1:41:01
me, the more you will learn. I am hard, but
1:41:04
I am fair. That's Gunnery Sergeant Hartman from Full Metal
1:41:09
Jacket. Oh, yes. When I started to listen to the
1:41:12
Hexeth discussion where he was firing 20% of his... of
1:41:17
his generals and all the people in charge, it kind
1:41:20
of brought me back to that. Pair down the Pentagon.
1:41:23
I'm all with that. I'm good with that. Here we
1:41:25
go. No fatties, no trannies, no beardos, no weirdos. The
1:41:29
thing is, he flubbed the line. That was bad. I
1:41:33
think I actually have, well, he flubs it. No fanny.
1:41:36
No fannies. Oh, man, you flubbed the joke. No fanny.
1:41:40
No fatties. No trannies. No beardos. No weirdos. No wimps.
1:41:44
No radicals. Just warriors. Telling someone to get in shape
1:41:49
or shave or fix their uniform or whatever. Start busting
1:41:53
their ass. That's not discrimination. That's leadership. We've ended a
1:41:58
poisonous culture of risk aversion and empowered leaders at every
1:42:02
single level to simply enforce standards. The only focus, as
1:42:07
you know, in your formations should be training, readiness, accountability,
1:42:11
discipline and lethality. And when you pursue those things, you
1:42:15
don't have to walk on eggshells. Yeah. And the rest
1:42:19
of you are pukes, just pukes. You know, I don't
1:42:25
have a problem with that. I have the only problem
1:42:29
I have is the I say when people put on
1:42:32
their put on their pants and then get in the
1:42:34
shower. Right. Yeah. It seems as a pattern of doing
1:42:38
things without a full understanding, possibly of what's going on
1:42:42
and maybe replacements, if in fact he's replacing or getting
1:42:46
rid of. 20% about 170 active duty senior leadership positions
1:42:50
by January. Are there replacements or are we just doing
1:42:53
this? You know, that's my concern. We do things and
1:42:56
then we think about, oh, maybe we didn't think this
1:42:58
through so well. So far, it's been working okay. I
1:43:02
mean, how about an audit? Give me an audit, and
1:43:05
then we can talk about accountability. We have no idea
1:43:08
what's going in that black hole. That's a good point.
1:43:10
I agree. But it is podcast, and we get to
1:43:12
be brilliant. Yes. Well, I guess. Obviously, case in point,
1:43:15
Mr. Horowitz. But, you know, it's like our whole economy
1:43:20
runs on this. Let's not pussyfoot around it. The Europeans
1:43:24
are trying to do the same like Russia. We've got
1:43:26
to build a war economy. We've got to cut 10
1:43:29
percent of the budget because it has to go into
1:43:32
war. Okay. So this is not new. I've been around
1:43:37
for a while. So let's go back to the fear
1:43:40
stuff. You know, we have a pope now who's from
1:43:42
Chicago. He speaks English. If someone were to ask me,
1:43:45
am I in panic mode? No, I'm not. I sleep
1:43:48
at night. Wouldn't it be great if he just uses
1:43:51
actual Chicago accent? Because he has it. You know he
1:43:55
has it. This is like... Yeah, of course. Shavatican is
1:43:57
what he's speaking of. Shavatican. If someone were to ask
1:44:00
me, am I in panic mode? No, I'm not. I
1:44:04
sleep at night. No. I do think that the concerns
1:44:07
raised by many of the experts, specialists in AI, should
1:44:11
be taken seriously. I don't think that that is fake
1:44:14
news, as some have said, to try and cause whether
1:44:17
financial or some other kind of benefit. It's interesting to
1:44:21
note that just today... Wow, he's actually saying it. Trump
1:44:24
hasn't even said that. He says for some financial... That's
1:44:27
exactly what it is, Pope. A fake news, as some
1:44:30
have said, to try and cause whether financial or some
1:44:34
other kind of benefit. It's interesting to note that just
1:44:38
today I read that the head of NVIDIA claims that
1:44:41
he has found some way of inserting into AI technology.
1:44:46
certain guardrails, if you will, or limits so that they
1:44:49
won't go outside of their particular units and cause the
1:44:53
damage that people are talking about. He's the same one,
1:44:56
however, that says there should be no limits placed.
1:45:00
No government regulation, etc., etc. This is a problem that
1:45:03
I think we need to sit down and talk about.
1:45:05
We need to continue to invite political leaders, the leaders
1:45:09
of AI, social organizations, associations, to come together and look
1:45:16
at what is happening already and what could be down
1:45:19
the road. To simply say, oh, it's not going to
1:45:23
happen and close our eyes to it, I think is
1:45:25
probably not the most responsible way to go about that.
1:45:28
All right, so I'll insert my plug here. If you're
1:45:31
a believer or you're Christ curious and you want to
1:45:33
hear how you can look at this stuff in a
1:45:35
different way, go to WGTDT.com. We get to do this.
1:45:39
You'll hear a different voice, a different way of looking
1:45:42
at it. You can hear a little bit of his
1:45:45
Chicago accent. It's a show title for sure. Shavatican is
1:45:49
a show title. Here's NBC. Of course, Bill Gates. I
1:45:53
mean, Bill Gates, whenever he shows up, it's always groovy.
1:45:55
There's also a discussion about a kill switch. Is a
1:45:58
kill switch possible? Is that realistic at this point? The
1:46:02
kill switch, that's kind of a weird thing. It's not
1:46:06
enough to have the kill switch. They are not yet
1:46:10
at the point where they... They autonomously grab computers and,
1:46:17
you know, can't be shut down. So that discussion just
1:46:21
sort of shows how non-technical various people are. You know,
1:46:27
I would never want to say I'm against the kill
1:46:30
switch, but you don't... When you're trying to moderate the
1:46:34
bad behavior, you need insight and records of what's being
1:46:40
done. So the kill switches alone would not prevent these
1:46:46
tragedies. Now, you're a financial guy. Bill Gates, give me
1:46:51
a break. Like we trust him ever again. Two things.
1:46:54
First of all, He said nothing. No. Absolutely nothing. Exactly.
1:47:01
Okay? Yeah. And I don't know why they had him
1:47:02
on. He said kill switch a lot. He said kill
1:47:05
switch. Kill switch. And he would never be against the
1:47:07
kill switch. Never. Never be against the kill switch. No,
1:47:09
kill switch. It's too much. I've listened to a few
1:47:11
interviews with Bill Gates lately. Something's not right. You think?
1:47:17
Yeah, you can hear it in his voice. He's definitely,
1:47:19
first of all, he said nothing there at all. Really,
1:47:23
nothing. And then a few of the conversations I've heard,
1:47:26
he's like fumbling around more than he's fumbled around before.
1:47:30
Well, because he's got no skin in the game. He
1:47:33
was late to this. You know, he should have been
1:47:36
one of the... Back in the day, he would have
1:47:38
been more agile. He would have been one of the
1:47:39
leaders and he would have had a much bigger role,
1:47:42
but he was too busy with, you know, divorce and
1:47:44
all this stuff. By the way, the Pope... Much better,
1:47:47
by the way. The Pope was awesome. The Pope was
1:47:50
good. Let him run Microsoft into the ground. So the
1:47:57
Pope is talking about NVIDIA. And, you know, I've looked
1:48:02
at it, open shell. Yeah, this is exactly right. This
1:48:05
is the guy who has the chips that run the
1:48:06
stuff. Of course it's easy to build these guardrails. But
1:48:10
you as a financial guy... You know, when you hear
1:48:13
this from CNBC, you tell me what you think. Anthropic
1:48:16
has reportedly warned investors that its technology may pose existential
1:48:20
risk to humanity in its IPO prospectus. That's according to
1:48:24
Reuters and the Financial Times, which have seen the prospectus
1:48:27
after it was reportedly circulated to a small group of
1:48:29
partners. The company reportedly plans to spend $500. $18 billion
1:48:34
on cloud, computing and infrastructure obligations in coming years. It
1:48:38
reported a $42 billion net loss in 2025, despite revenue
1:48:42
growing 12-fold in the year to $4.6 billion. Anthropics backers
1:48:47
are confident the company could fetch a $2 trillion valuation
1:48:51
in its IPO, surpassing SpaceX, which lists $18 billion. in
1:48:55
June. Anthropic also released a new AI model called Sonnet
1:48:59
5.5, which offers faster technology at a lower cost. It's
1:49:03
the second launch since the company's CEO, Dario Amadei, called
1:49:06
for a slowdown in the pace of AI development two
1:49:09
weeks ago. Okay, you're a financial guy. You don't have
1:49:12
the S-1 filing yet, which is a document you build
1:49:15
to tell people about your IPO. What is your takeaway
1:49:17
from this report? Invest or not invest? Do you want
1:49:20
to get an allocation? Do you want to be on
1:49:22
this IPO or not? So I can just go back
1:49:24
to SpaceX. We did not want an allocation in that.
1:49:27
That did go from 135 to 200, back down to
1:49:30
106, down to 145. You would have popped out right
1:49:32
away. You usually can't do that. No, you can't do
1:49:34
that a lot of times. If you're early. But they
1:49:37
had the green shoe. They had the green shoe. There
1:49:39
was. But usually with the IPOs through the companies we
1:49:42
work with, they kind of mandate that, You're going to
1:49:44
hold for 30 days. I've always said that if any
1:49:47
IPO that lets me get into is an IPO, I
1:49:48
don't want to have. Well, there's a point. You got
1:49:52
a point there. But do you have any position in
1:49:55
SpaceX now? No. No. No. I still find that the
1:49:58
losses that they're taking – well, there's different components of
1:50:01
SpaceX, right? But, you know, the losses in the valuation
1:50:05
is absurd right now to me. Now, Grok is interesting.
1:50:08
Grok bought. You know, the whole thing, what they're doing
1:50:11
is interesting. The thing that really stuck out in that
1:50:13
was the existential risk discussion. That, folks, is a CYA
1:50:17
inside of a document that when – They put it
1:50:21
out. It just covers them for the future. I remember
1:50:24
writing RS1 in 1996, and it had all kinds of
1:50:28
stuff in there. Like, well, first of all, you could
1:50:30
lose all your money. We could totally screw it up.
1:50:34
We could burn it all. We could take LSD and
1:50:37
all go crazy. I mean, that's in there. And if,
1:50:41
in fact... They don't really need to put that in
1:50:43
there because in fact it comes true that there's an
1:50:45
existential risk. There's nobody to sue them anyway. So it's
1:50:48
not really a necessary item to have in there, but
1:50:50
they're just putting it out there as the risk under
1:50:52
the risk. They pulled one component out. The losses are
1:50:55
extraordinary. Yes. Yeah. $42 billion. But how about the dot-com?
1:51:02
I mean, did you make any money in the dot-com
1:51:05
business? Yeah, we made money on it. I also lost
1:51:08
money on it, depending on where you were and what
1:51:10
side of it, right? If you were in the run-up
1:51:11
up to it, it was great. And that was... You
1:51:14
know, things like the web van, peapod, Amazon back in
1:51:17
the day. Were you in Pets.com? Come on. Pets.com. That's
1:51:20
a beautiful thing. What do you mean? It's looking at
1:51:22
it run. But did you get a piece of that
1:51:24
Netscape IPO? That was the one. I had some IPOs,
1:51:26
and almost every one of them... was great for a
1:51:29
day and then you wake up the next day like
1:51:31
what happened it's gone and it's gone yeah yeah but
1:51:35
the interesting thing about the guardrails um Nvidia is launching
1:51:40
this whole thing. Jensen Wang was on CNBC. He did
1:51:43
the whole tour with his leather jacket on Monday. And
1:51:46
the whole thing was – His leather jacket is –
1:51:50
that is the definition of fake and gay. I'm sorry.
1:51:53
It's just – it's like stop it. Stop it. Well,
1:51:55
it goes well with the haircut. The haircut looks –
1:51:58
True. Not true. perfectly quaffed at all occasions but he
1:52:01
got that from either it was um you know when
1:52:05
you have those it's a costume Right? That's what it
1:52:08
is. It's a costume. So you recognize it. Nothing changes.
1:52:10
If ever, oh, my God, he had a blue jacket
1:52:12
on, no jacket on, everybody would sell the stock anyway.
1:52:15
That's what happened. The best was, did you see the
1:52:17
OpenAI Dev Conference with Sam Altman, who has his own
1:52:21
costume? He's got his, like, Silicon Valley, you know, belt.
1:52:26
I don't care. I don't care. Close on. Difficult inventor
1:52:28
guy. Close on. And they announced dots. I heard. We
1:52:34
got dots. We got. And they had this promo video,
1:52:37
which I listened to the audio. It was. It wasn't
1:52:39
worth it. You have to see the visuals. The whole
1:52:42
place looks like everyone's home is a Play-Doh factory with
1:52:45
these dots bouncing around. And you're talking to the screen
1:52:50
and the screen says, oh, they just moved the management
1:52:53
meeting, but it conflicts with your daughter's recital. Oh, I
1:52:57
can't have that. No, you can't. Okay, I'll fix it.
1:53:00
Like, what? it's just dots and like to call it
1:53:04
dots it's it's just uh and i guess it's connected
1:53:07
dots but it reminds me of also when when zuck
1:53:09
came out with the metaverse we're all gonna be sitting
1:53:12
there with avatars well that was another thing that we
1:53:14
knew oh you know what happened the other day to
1:53:16
me so i went to austin actually there's probably two
1:53:20
stories here I went to Austin to get my haircut.
1:53:23
I've been going to this woman for 15 years. And
1:53:26
I like it because I get to drive. I drive
1:53:29
to the grocery store and back. So I get to
1:53:32
drive. I get to listen to some podcasts, other things.
1:53:35
It's like chill out for an hour and a half
1:53:37
in the car, an hour and a half back. And
1:53:39
she also tells me about the crazy things that are
1:53:41
going on in Austin. And I'm sitting down and she
1:53:45
has glasses. And I didn't say it right away. I
1:53:48
was like, oh, that kind of looks good on you,
1:53:49
those glasses. She said, you like my glasses? She said,
1:53:51
yeah. They're the creeper glasses. She had the meta creepy
1:53:55
Ray-Ban glasses. Oh. And I'm like, wow, what do you
1:54:00
do with it? Oh, I take pictures of where I
1:54:02
am and everything. So that was the first thing. Oh,
1:54:06
there's another story. I should probably tell it. So she
1:54:14
broke up with her boyfriend, a long-term boyfriend. They had
1:54:18
a house together and everything, and she moved back into
1:54:20
Austin. And so now she's 49. She's... She's single again.
1:54:25
And I'm like, you should enjoy this. You know, with
1:54:28
her dog and she got her apartment all nice and
1:54:31
it's right near the salon. So she's loving life. And
1:54:35
she said, well, you know, I decided to tip my
1:54:36
toe back in the water. Oh, you went on a
1:54:38
date. Yeah. So long story about she met this guy,
1:54:41
but. successful guy. It's got a great house. Nice. They
1:54:46
go on their date. He's taken her to nice places.
1:54:49
But the four seasons, um, he's holding her hand, you
1:54:53
know, like this is Mr. Wonderful. He said, and I
1:54:56
started to notice it a little bit, but it wasn't
1:54:58
until later in the evening. He was like, start talking
1:55:01
about Trump all the time. And she says, but, you
1:55:05
know, I don't really care that much. You have to
1:55:07
denounce Trump. I can't believe you won't. She says, I
1:55:11
don't really care that much. You know, I'm liberal, but
1:55:14
I don't. Well, I'm a Republican. I hate Trump. And
1:55:17
then she showed me the text messages from that evening.
1:55:20
He's like, he's sending Heil, orange, Hitler. And she's like.
1:55:26
I never thought it was real. Trump derangement syndrome. And
1:55:29
she says, it's all around me. They're so outraged and
1:55:34
angry. And apparently the guy's a Republican. And you know
1:55:37
what? I think what's happening here is everybody has something.
1:55:43
Everyone's mad about something. Everybody has trauma. I can tell
1:55:46
you've got trauma too, Andrew. I know you've got trauma.
1:55:50
You know what? Can we talk about it? Why don't
1:55:53
you talk to your bot? Your bot can help you
1:55:56
with your trauma. Oh, I should. And it is such
1:55:58
an easy... almost socially accepted way to yell out your
1:56:04
anger in public and just, you know, transfer it onto
1:56:08
Trump. So all the things that happened to me, I'm
1:56:12
going to blame on Big Bad, Orange, Hitler. Yes. Because
1:56:16
he is the root of all of this. I was
1:56:19
happy until he got into office. Everything was fine. And
1:56:22
this theory is becoming clear to me as we've been
1:56:24
watching. I've said this a couple of times. We've been
1:56:26
watching the West Wing. iconic series from the late 90s,
1:56:30
early 2000s. Jed Bartlett, he's the Democrat president played by
1:56:36
Martin Sheen. And every single thing Trump does or says
1:56:41
is in this show, including to season five, episode four,
1:56:47
I think last night. Well, you know, Mr. President, you
1:56:51
can just run for a third term. Yeah, I think
1:56:53
I'll do that. You know, Trump says that everyone loses
1:56:57
their crap. But the thing is, Trump says all this
1:56:59
stuff out in the open. All of the things that
1:57:02
Trump is doing is in this series by a Democrat
1:57:04
president. Only it's not out there. You've got C.J. Craig
1:57:08
and she spins the message nicely to everybody and the
1:57:10
journalists go, OK, C.J., yeah, that's great. We'll write that
1:57:13
down. So I think I think it's just it's it's
1:57:17
it's a it's both sides right now. They hate Trump.
1:57:20
Let me tell you, I live in Fort Lauderdale is
1:57:23
a rather Republican town. I'm sure people hate Trump there
1:57:26
now. Well, they hate everybody. Right. So I hate everybody.
1:57:29
So the thing is that the thing is that Biden
1:57:36
is. You know, anything you may buy. Oh, my God.
1:57:38
He was like, he was a blithering idiot. I get
1:57:40
it. But, you know, you're still the Biden, the Biden,
1:57:43
the Biden, the Obama, the Obama, the dudes, enough. It's
1:57:45
do we have. And and my Democratic friends there, you
1:57:48
know, Trump, how do you live with this? Oh, my
1:57:51
God, end of the world. It's going to be this
1:57:52
horrible thing. It's going to clean up in two years,
1:57:56
maybe six, but two years. Ha, ha, ha. you know
1:58:00
but um and then from there we'll get somebody else
1:58:03
we all get to hate do you make that joke
1:58:04
to your democrat friends of course of course and they're
1:58:07
like they you see their face they're like they just
1:58:10
did it what what do you mean what do you
1:58:11
mean sex are you serious are you serious andrew come
1:58:13
on no right um and then you know the the
1:58:15
the best is i have a lot of friends that
1:58:17
have come from california They decide they want to live
1:58:20
on the east side, east coast. They want to be
1:58:22
in the water. They want to be in the boating.
1:58:23
And they get here. They didn't think clearly about where
1:58:26
they were moving. And now the whole time they're walking
1:58:28
around going, I don't want to talk about that. I
1:58:31
don't want to talk about that. You know, the whole
1:58:32
time. We have some of that in Fredericksburg. Yeah. A
1:58:37
lot of very wealthy people come to Fredericksburg, come to
1:58:40
live here, a nice little German town. And, of course,
1:58:43
you couldn't get much redder here. But now we have
1:58:45
Tallarico. Oh, well, he's a pastor. He's a pastor. So,
1:58:51
oh, Tallarico, that's great. No, it's just fantastic. I have
1:58:54
one question for you. You seem to have lost a
1:58:57
lot of weight recently. Yes. Are you on the fat
1:59:00
shot? Of course. Is everybody? No, but I work out
1:59:05
a lot. I do work out a lot. Yeah, sure.
1:59:07
I have a clip for you. Wait, what do you
1:59:09
mean you're sure? Yeah, sure. I know you, Andrew Horowitz.
1:59:13
By the way, you look great. You look great. Thank
1:59:15
you. And the GLP one, I'm sure, helped. I'm sure
1:59:18
you work out. How's your munisprence? My knee? Yeah, your
1:59:22
knee. I actually played Pickleball at my level last weekend
1:59:26
for two games and did well. Oh, good. So that's
1:59:28
good. It hurts like hell afterwards. But nonetheless, I did
1:59:30
play, and I'm able to do a lot. Today, I
1:59:32
did a lot of... I was in the gym and
1:59:35
I was jumping off things. to do impact training on
1:59:38
it. Oh, careful with that. Careful. All right. So here's
1:59:41
a clip for you, just because I love you. I
1:59:43
was at an event recently with all these people promoting
1:59:46
GLP-1s and there was a, I'm not going to name
1:59:48
names, but there was a major pharmacy person on the
1:59:51
panel, ran a big national pharmacy company. I think it
1:59:54
was the chief medical officer And I raise my hand
1:59:57
and I ask the question, what's the downside?
2:00:00
of, I mean, we're talking about all the upsides, what's
2:00:02
the downside? And, you know, he was very political in
2:00:06
his answer on stage because there was a lot of,
2:00:08
like, very famous, big-name people. But afterwards, he came up
2:00:10
to me and he said, Hey, listen, Dr. I really
2:00:13
appreciate the question, but let me tell you the answer
2:00:15
behind the scenes. I'm like, what's that? He goes, we
2:00:18
are seeing a lot of older people falling and having
2:00:21
injuries. And so what's being kind of hidden is older
2:00:25
people on GLP-1s are having more falls because they're losing
2:00:28
muscle. I want you to be careful because you're losing
2:00:32
muscle. No, I'm not losing muscle. That's the funny thing
2:00:34
you mentioned there. I am working out three days a
2:00:36
week. I've been doing so for two years hardcore. Yeah,
2:00:38
okay. My muscles are bigger than they've been. Actually, if
2:00:41
you want to flip over to this. McDonald's. Well, wait.
2:00:43
I want to tell you about the Christmas gift. I'm
2:00:45
sorry, the Hanukkah gift. Oh, you're getting me? The Hanukkah
2:00:48
gift, the Christmas gift, and the Hanukkah gift. Okay, go
2:00:50
ahead. Yeah, here it is. I've fallen, and I can't
2:00:53
get up. I'm getting you a life alert for Hanukkah.
2:00:57
That's good, and I'm going to get you the clapper.
2:01:02
All right. Clap on, clap off. McDonald's. Okay, McDonald's. Do
2:01:06
you need to set it up or are we good
2:01:08
to go? No, just start playing. We'll go from there.
2:01:09
McDonald's is launching a new plan to try to turn
2:01:11
around sagging sales. The mega restaurant chain shares it's investing
2:01:15
in new restaurant design, better tasting food, and improved service
2:01:18
from employees. To achieve that, the company is pouring in
2:01:23
$8.5 billion into its franchisees, which own most locations. The
2:01:28
most immediate change customers will likely notice is in customer
2:01:31
service and improved food quality. The chain is also rolling
2:01:35
out a training program for workers beginning next month. First
2:01:39
of all, it seems light. Seems light if they're going
2:01:42
to try to make that shit taste better. Eight and
2:01:44
a half billion. Okay, that's first of all. Okay. Okay?
2:01:47
But this is the McDonald's next strategy. Eight and a
2:01:50
half billion dollars sales are sagging, blaming it on lousy
2:01:54
tasting food, which, okay. I do like the chicken nuggets
2:01:58
every once in five years. And I think every two
2:02:01
years I have an order of french fries. Poor service.
2:02:05
The other thing that's interesting is they're creating AI-driven Arch
2:02:09
IQ. That's an operating system for the new kitchen layout.
2:02:14
Hello? Well, now to an unexpected side effect of the
2:02:17
growing popularity of weight loss drugs. They are not just
2:02:20
changing our waistlines. They're changing what we eat. One of
2:02:24
the world's biggest fast food chains has noticed that. McDonald's
2:02:27
says it's exploring new high-protein options aimed at customers taking
2:02:32
those GLP-1 drugs. Meg Oliver has more. Oh. The company
2:02:37
that once encouraged customers to go big is now exploring
2:02:42
downsizing with new menu options for GLP-1 users. Smaller portions,
2:02:47
fewer calories, and more protein. When people do go on
2:02:51
GLP-1s, they still crave our food. We're going to evolve
2:02:55
our menu to make sure it reflects where we think
2:02:57
it's going. that consumer is going to be looking for
2:02:59
in the future. The fast food giant says it's exploring
2:03:02
portion-flexible options and protein-led choices, with Bloomberg reporting those options
2:03:08
include a crispy chicken bowl, grilled chicken snack wraps, and
2:03:12
egg bites. Other major chains are already adapting. Chipotle is
2:03:16
promoting high-protein options. It calls GLP-1 friendly. Well, I got
2:03:21
a topper for you. Yeah. Because I have a report
2:03:25
from Reuters, and this is probably more interesting. Could I
2:03:29
get a Big Mac, please? I bought a Big Mac
2:03:31
from McDonald's here in New York City. Thank you. And
2:03:35
I'm sorry, it was how much? $7.17? Thanks. Just two
2:03:39
miles up the road at a different McDonald's owned by
2:03:42
the same franchisee, I paid 11% more. You said that
2:03:46
was $8.05? Okay. Franchisees have told us that increasingly where
2:03:52
you buy your Big Mac determines how much you're going
2:03:55
to pay for it. This is in large part because
2:03:57
of a massive AI project that McDonald's has developed and
2:04:00
pushed in recent years called the pricing engine. This AI
2:04:04
pricing engine generates what it calls the optimal price for
2:04:09
everything. every menu item at every restaurant. In large part,
2:04:14
based on what it estimates is the customer willingness to
2:04:19
pay. That's a term taken from McDonald's own documents that
2:04:22
I've been able to review. It analyzes millions of transactions
2:04:27
every day. This AI pricing engine also shows the prices
2:04:32
of nearby competitors at Burger King and at Wendy's, Chick-fil-A.
2:04:37
One extreme example can be found in Fresno, California, where
2:04:41
one McDonald's charges $569 for a Big Mac. But just
2:04:45
about two miles away, another location charges $6.89 for that
2:04:50
same Big Mac. I'm going to look into the future.
2:04:55
Okay. I'm going to tell you what's going to happen.
2:04:57
Okay. Your agent, your bot, let's just call it a
2:05:00
bot, I think bot is better, is going to negotiate
2:05:04
this for you. There's no stopping it. So we're going
2:05:09
to get back at the surge pricing as a flexible
2:05:12
pricing process. Yeah, your bot's going to say, hey, my
2:05:18
man here. By the way, it's in GLP-1, so I
2:05:21
need the special menu for the week. It's in the
2:05:25
back. He's losing muscle. Fatty at the front. So he's
2:05:31
losing muscle. But I'm only going to pay five bucks
2:05:35
for it. But he's going to have an order of
2:05:37
– he's going to bring the whole family. We take
2:05:40
five bucks and McDonald's is going to go, OK, yeah,
2:05:43
sure, I'll do that. This is inevitable. And it's going
2:05:47
to happen with Amazon. It's going to happen. And it's
2:05:50
going to be fantastic because we're going to have power
2:05:53
again. You watch. Yeah, but your stock portfolio will go
2:05:57
down. Well, no, because Robin Hood's going to save us.
2:06:02
Oh, yeah. We're going to tokenize. Tokenize my McDonald's burgers.
2:06:07
Tokenize your pickleball court is what we're going to do.
2:06:10
It's being – I was – this is anecdotal, but
2:06:12
I was – we ordered from Chipotle the other day.
2:06:15
We haven't in months and months and months for lunch.
2:06:17
I take a very long 15-minute lunch at my desk
2:06:21
every day. 15 minutes? Oh, man. That's literally – Your
2:06:24
client, Tina, says you should take it more easy. So
2:06:30
– We get Chipotle. We haven't gotten in a while
2:06:33
because it's been lousy and it's been like small orders.
2:06:36
Oh, really? It comes back to the office two days
2:06:38
ago. It was the biggest pile I've ever seen of
2:06:41
whatever is in there. Beans and rice and stuff smothered
2:06:45
in there. We couldn't even get the top on. And
2:06:48
I think what's going on is they're realizing that. They
2:06:52
would rather possibly overfill and do more to keep the
2:06:55
customer in versus turning them off so bad that they
2:06:58
never come in at all. Yeah, that's anecdotal. That's possible.
2:07:03
I mean, so I know that people are already using
2:07:06
Muse to arbitrage between Lyft and Uber. Love that. Why
2:07:11
that wasn't around before, by the way, I don't understand.
2:07:15
Well, here's the beauty of it, because right now, for
2:07:17
a limited time, I believe – It's because your phone
2:07:20
can actually communicate with the apps. So that comes back
2:07:24
to iOS and to Android, and these apps are already
2:07:28
all over your phone, you know, gathering information and spying
2:07:31
on you. So we'll be able to use this against
2:07:34
them. I think that overall this is going to lower
2:07:37
prices. It's going to make the billionaires less billionaire, somewhat
2:07:41
less well, less billionaire. And it's going to put power
2:07:45
back in the hands of the people. Well, it's going
2:07:47
to make AOC happy then. And you'll be able to
2:07:49
run your own stuff on your own machine, on your
2:07:52
own device. But you're thinking like you're agreeing with AOC.
2:07:56
No, no. What do you mean? It's going to vote
2:07:59
her out of office. That's what my bot's going to
2:08:01
do. No, no, it's actually going to do the inverse.
2:08:05
It's going to give the people more power. I would
2:08:09
agree if the masses have the ability to fight at
2:08:14
the level that we know Walmart. Walmart's an unbelievable store,
2:08:19
retail, etc. They are the technology powerhouse. They're doing a
2:08:23
lot, for sure. Same thing with McDonald's. All these companies
2:08:26
have adopted this many. Target. Yeah. Yeah. And we knew
2:08:30
surge pricing when Lyft and Uber first came out, you'd
2:08:33
get a – all of a sudden, it'd be $9.
2:08:36
You look somewhere else, you come back, it's $12. It
2:08:39
would go back and forth like that. It's inevitable. It's
2:08:43
just going to negotiate. It's going to negotiate. $12 now,
2:08:46
I'll wait an hour. Okay, I'll do it for $10.
2:08:48
Okay, they'll pick me up now. I found that reporter
2:08:51
very annoying. Andrew, is there anything else you wanted to
2:08:56
play before I kick you out of the studio? You
2:08:57
can go back to the green room. Whatever. Am I
2:08:59
going to the green room? Tea? Is there some more
2:09:01
peppermint tea? Yes, we have peppermint tea. And we have
2:09:05
pie. I think we have pie. Oh, that's good. I
2:09:08
have a few more clips, but it's okay. We can
2:09:10
stop there. We can do one more. It's okay. It's
2:09:13
okay. I mean, the most annoying weatherman in the world?
2:09:17
No, let's do that. Most... What is the... Oh, annoying
2:09:20
weather. Okay, here we go. Well, thanks for tuning in.
2:09:22
Talking about the long-term crisis, the potential precipitation over the
2:09:26
next five days. If and when we get started... Some
2:09:29
higher moisture to surge north. I'll be watching potentially later
2:09:32
portions of the week some threats of some heavier rain
2:09:35
with some locally higher amounts, too. For today, areas... far
2:09:40
southeast regional. We're kind of sandwiched in between a couple
2:09:43
of fronts. We still have that sluggish front near stationary
2:09:45
over the Bahamas, and one near the northern Florida state
2:09:49
line. Some showers and isolated thunder are possible today, but
2:09:52
the best chance of a thunderstorm is going to be
2:09:53
sandwiched well with the south around fall. I'll tell you
2:09:57
what I got out of that. nasal with a chance
2:09:59
of a sandwich. Andrew Horowitz, everybody. You can see him
2:10:04
on DHM Plug, the disciplined investor, which I think is
2:10:07
a very – I've always loved the disciplined investor. Oh,
2:10:10
that's great. We have some great guests on there, don't
2:10:12
we? You do. Some of the guests, I just want
2:10:14
to rip their throats out sometimes. Like, oh, he's just
2:10:18
a horrible person. And they're so haughty. You know, like,
2:10:22
oh, I don't know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I
2:10:25
don't watch the video version because I just look at
2:10:27
him and think, oh, man, GLP-1 is killing my friend.
2:10:31
Oh, gosh. I wish he was not on. That stuff
2:10:33
is no good. But I really appreciate having you on
2:10:36
the show. And now you need to have me on
2:10:38
one of your shows. Bring me on a Discipline Investor.
2:10:40
Of course. We will do so. I will tell everybody
2:10:42
about the future and why they can easily invest in
2:10:45
all of these wonderful companies. Right. And value for value.
2:10:48
What are you going to? Donation segment now? What are
2:10:49
you doing now? Yeah. You don't have to do that.
2:10:51
I'll do the donation. But have you seen the new
2:10:53
challenge coins? I have not. Oh, yeah. This is the
2:10:58
family has put together, with the help of Sir Paul
2:11:02
Couture, a John C. Dvorak commemorative challenge coin. I love
2:11:07
that. I think you can see it on noagendarrings.com. And
2:11:10
unlike the order of the ant pins, I think these
2:11:13
may not run out. I think we'll just keep it
2:11:15
going. for as long as we can. And Tino, she's
2:11:20
like, she hates my challenge coins. She's always in the
2:11:25
studio like, what are all these stupid challenge coins? You
2:11:28
don't do anything with them. It's just taking up space
2:11:31
with their little display cases. And she says, why don't
2:11:35
you just put them in a box? But this one,
2:11:38
she loves this. She's looking at all the little symbolism
2:11:43
on it. You know, it's got the Bakelite phone. It's
2:11:46
got all these different little things. cool little gimmicks on
2:11:50
the back. And of course, it's John with his iconic
2:11:53
salute on the front. It's beautiful. So they opened that
2:11:57
up, and so we have a lot of people to
2:11:58
thank who supported us for that. It's great. Best of
2:12:02
luck to you. Thank you so much for having me
2:12:03
on. I hope besides that first glitchy A clip to
2:12:07
the beginning was up to your standards. That was the
2:12:10
best part of the show. All right. I'll see you.
2:12:15
Listen, thank you for your courage and all the things
2:12:17
that you do in the morning, in the morning, in
2:12:18
the afternoon, and in the evening. All right, Andrew. Thank
2:12:21
you so much, brother. I appreciate you. Okay. Say hi
2:12:23
to Jill. Will do. Back to you. value for value
2:12:38
segment. in the vault You heard the show, you got
2:12:48
the goods, now here's the deal we made You send
2:12:53
the value back to us, give what you think we
2:12:56
raise. No ads, no suits, no agendas, just the producer's
2:13:02
hands. And now there's something in return to carry through
2:13:08
the lens. Hold up the... We'll be right back. Thank
2:13:33
you. We'll be right back. The John C. Double Rack
2:13:56
coin Polished up a stamp with Lorda, you can join
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And some marching one by one to get more nations
2:14:03
proud Send in your value, get the coin and say
2:14:08
his name loud Go to DLORIFE. And I support the
2:14:19
show. And John, good morning. There you go. Thank you.
2:14:46
will be back in the seat and we'll have a
2:14:48
good time with him. He's chomping at the bit, I
2:14:52
should say. I want to thank people for doing certain
2:14:56
things such as, oh, I don't know, telling other people.
2:15:00
about the podcast. That always helps. We also have people
2:15:03
who like to do artwork for us and we had
2:15:05
one-shotted A lot of people emailed me about that. Hey,
2:15:10
man, it's J. Cal when he's talking gamer language and
2:15:13
he does it wrong. It's just it's completely wrong. It's
2:15:15
no good. But the art, which was the glass slab.
2:15:19
Now, this was 1907. The title was one shotted. But
2:15:24
the art was by Tyler Brown. Tyler Brown is just
2:15:27
knocking it out of the park these days. This was
2:15:29
the little muse thing, little muse goblet thing, whatever that
2:15:35
is, with the glass slab. It was just clean, beautiful,
2:15:39
very no agenda. Love what you did with the no
2:15:42
agenda font, how it kind of wraps around. Good job.
2:15:45
Let me just check and see if there's anything else
2:15:48
that I looked at. This has pretty much been me.
2:15:53
The guests don't hang around. Let me see. Oh, I
2:15:56
love another Tyler Brown. I love the Adam and Crazy
2:15:59
Curry and Horrible Horowitz I used for the batch signal
2:16:02
this morning. I had a couple of data center jokes.
2:16:08
No, really? I still have to laugh at that picture
2:16:13
of me and Brunetti, not with peptides. Whoa, that's bad.
2:16:18
But anyway, go to noagendaartgenerator.com. You can participate. It's very
2:16:22
easy to do. And appreciate all the help that you
2:16:25
give me. We have about 845 trolls in the troll
2:16:28
room. So we're still, Brunetti still brings them in. J.
2:16:31
Cal brings them in. Andrew, I think it's name recognition.
2:16:34
You know, he needs a little more name recognition. Thank
2:16:36
you, J. Cal, for getting me above 100,000 on the
2:16:40
show. On X, actually, let me give it another check
2:16:44
because I'm literally, I got, as we would say in
2:16:46
the old country, Hucka over to Sloat. I just have
2:16:49
my heels over the canal. Let me see. What is
2:16:52
my current count? Hold on a second. I am at...
2:16:57
1,036. So I'm just hanging on by my fingernails. But
2:17:01
he didn't get me there. That was surprising. Now we'll
2:17:04
see if it goes up or goes down from there.
2:17:07
So, thanking people for their treasure. We thank everybody, $50
2:17:11
and above. And as always, $300 or more gets you
2:17:14
an executive producer credit. Good anywhere executive producer credits are
2:17:18
recognized. Hollywood credits, you got it. Go to imdb.com. Just
2:17:22
type in no agenda. You'll see what I mean. So,
2:17:24
they are recognized. And $200 and above is an associate
2:17:27
executive producer credit and Of course, in both cases, I
2:17:30
will read your notes. The magic donation number for the
2:17:33
John C. Dvorak Challenge Coin, commemorative challenge coin, which someone
2:17:37
said it wasn't on the website yet. Let me just
2:17:39
check. Noagendadonations.com. I thought it was. Let me see. Is
2:17:46
it a newsletter? No, click on donate, maybe. I thought
2:17:52
Jay put it up there. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it
2:17:58
goes up today. But anyway, she put it in the
2:18:01
newsletter. And if you're not subscribed to the newsletter, please
2:18:04
do so. And you can see that beautiful challenge coin.
2:18:09
So the amount is $3.88.83. That is the 33s and
2:18:14
the Dvorak and the palindrome. It's all in there. The
2:18:18
family decided on that number, $3.88.83. And a lot of
2:18:21
people came in for it and added fees. And in
2:18:25
fact, Sir Baron John Helmer from Shawnee, Kansas sent in
2:18:29
four hundred and sixty seven dollars and twenty four cents
2:18:32
and says, Adam Dvorak family and guest host. Thank you
2:18:35
to everyone who has worked so hard figuring out what
2:18:37
no agenda should become going forward over the past three
2:18:39
months in J.C.D. past. I want to send my appreciation
2:18:42
to all those who have had a part in hosting
2:18:44
the show and those behind the scenes. My donation of
2:18:47
today, 38883 for the JCD Memorial Challenge coin, plus $55,
2:18:52
takes me to Viscount. And he wants a foamer. Listen
2:18:56
to that horn. And he says, thank you for your
2:18:59
courage. Hold on a second. And signs off. And thank
2:19:03
you for your courage. In the morning with OU, Sir
2:19:06
Baron John Helmer, soon to be Viscount from Shawnee, Texas.
2:19:10
Yes, indeed. Oh, my God. Listen. Then we have a
2:19:17
whole bunch of 388.83s with the fees, which turns out
2:19:21
to be $400.91. And not all of them have a
2:19:24
note, but we will mention them and thank them. Robert
2:19:27
Alter, Kyle Dugan, Patrick Cronin. Sir Psychopath, who says, Adam
2:19:32
ITM, thank you for your courage. He is Sir Psychopath,
2:19:35
Jonathan Keegan, Baron of Lake James, Charlotte, North Carolina. Sir
2:19:39
David Fugisato, he is the Archduke of... The American Heartland
2:19:46
and the Arabian Peninsula, I believe. He says, thank you
2:19:48
for your courage in 19 years. Gary Whitehead, Red Knight
2:19:52
Commodore Jason, RIPJCD from the Red Knights. Stephen Riley, RC
2:19:57
Mouse says, this donation puts me over the line in
2:20:00
becoming a knight. I will be Sir RC Mouse. I
2:20:03
just wish I did this before we lost the great
2:20:05
JCD. Sir Chris of Cascadia, RIP, JCD, No Jingles, No
2:20:09
Karma. Alex Boites, Boites, Boites, Donate, Donate, Donate. Listener and
2:20:15
three times donator since being hit in the mouth in
2:20:18
2017 have caught every episode since JCD was a light
2:20:22
that can never be extinguished. Adam, you carry that light
2:20:25
now. Keep up the fight, maggots. Donate. Nate, always. Michael
2:20:29
Wendell with the straight up 38883 Long Live JCD. The
2:20:33
Lopez's come in with the challenge coin donation. I'm still
2:20:36
missing John's voice, but we are blessed to continue hearing
2:20:39
you, Adam. Blessings to you and the Dvorak family. The
2:20:41
Lopez's in Wyoming, Michigan. Chris Ruddy, Rip JCD. Dan Bilthouse
2:20:48
comes in with 33333 and says, can you give me
2:20:52
a nice plug for my value for value game? Well,
2:20:54
we'll always do that for anything value for value. It
2:20:56
has ITM, JCD and Adam Curry modes and some other
2:20:59
nods to comedy, bang, bang and weird owl. It's auto
2:21:03
apexai.com, auto apexai.com, A-U-T-O-A-P-E-X-A-I.com. It's a dogs in space video
2:21:14
game with a global high scoreboard. It's called Future So
2:21:18
Bright, and the dogs in space have to get sunglasses
2:21:21
before they get sunburned. It's fun. Give it a go.
2:21:24
Please. Thank you. Maximum respect. Damn built house. Okay. I'll
2:21:28
jump on, see if I get a high score. Kurt
2:21:30
Butler from South Bend, Indiana, 333-33. I-T-M-A-C-C-R-A-P-J-C-D. Prayers. Oh, I
2:21:37
think he probably wants the prayers. I didn't realize that,
2:21:41
so we'll give you the prayers. You've got... Prayers. And
2:21:48
there's La Jolla Salt Corporation. They come in with $210.60.
2:21:54
Greetings, Adam. No agenda nation. If your skin is feeling
2:21:57
dry and needs a touch-up, why not soothe your exterior
2:22:00
with a sea salt scrub from lajollasalt.com? Try our two
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new scents. Clark Mitcher and sushi with J-Cow. What? Exfoliate
2:22:10
in the essence of warm strobe waffle or wasabi, soy,
2:22:15
and maguro. Wow. That sounds like an interesting product. Now
2:22:20
that's savory. Karma to the producers and the practitioners of
2:22:23
the best podcasts in the universe. Keep calm and angel
2:22:26
on JCD. Thank you for your courage, people. Please donate
2:22:29
to the show. New sense not available in northern or
2:22:31
southern hemispheres. Oh, okay. Got you. Go podcasting. Well, thank
2:22:35
you all very much. And let me see. Where is
2:22:38
my? Here we go. We got a karma for you.
2:22:41
You've got karma. And once again, an associate executive producership
2:22:45
for La Jolla Salt Corporation. And one goes to Eli
2:22:48
the Coffee Guy as well from Bensonville, Illinois. 210 and
2:22:52
one penny. He always gives $200 plus the dates. 10-1.
2:22:56
It's October. No clue how we got here. It's been
2:22:59
a whirlwind year for so many reasons, he says. The
2:23:01
question is, will we receive an October surprise? Well, I'm
2:23:05
counting on it. You never know if they go live
2:23:08
with a six-week cycle scenario, but you can make your
2:23:11
own October surprise. Try our coffee and you'll be surprised
2:23:15
how damn good it is. Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com. Use code ITM20
2:23:20
for 20% off your order. Whatever you do, stay caffeinated,
2:23:23
says Eli the Coffee Guy. And it is indeed an
2:23:26
outstanding product endorsed by myself and John C. Dvorak for
2:23:30
its quality. And our final associate executive producer with $200,
2:23:33
Matthew Martel from Brumall, Pennsylvania. And he says he'd like
2:23:37
to nominate Linda Lupatkin for a co-host audition. And visit
2:23:41
martelhardware.com. Use coupon code KILLBOX. for an additional 10% off
2:23:47
your order. And he wants a JCD Hot Pockets. Happy
2:23:51
to oblige, of course. Hot pockets. And that concludes our
2:23:55
executive and associate executive producers for episode 1908. You know
2:23:59
the drill. If you want one of these coveted credits
2:24:02
and your note read for sure, go to noagendadonations.com. And
2:24:06
thank you for supporting No Agenda with your outstanding donations.
2:24:11
Our formula is this. We go out. We hit people
2:24:15
in the mouth. Yes! Whoa! Whoa! Order! Moving on with
2:24:29
the rest of our supporters, $50 or above, Sir Robertson
2:24:32
of Two Sticks in Dos Palos, California, $101.79. It's a
2:24:37
birthday donation, my annual donation for my birthday on October
2:24:39
1st. Thank you for your courage. You're on the list.
2:24:42
Peter Lachance, Oviedo, Florida, $101. God bless the greatest podcast
2:24:46
in the universe. I cried when I heard of John's
2:24:48
passing, but letting the dead mourn the dead. Love your
2:24:51
guest host, but love you more. And I mean it.
2:24:54
Shauna Norberg, Bellingham, Washington, 100. Her heart still hurts for
2:24:57
John, but I love the evolution of the show. She
2:24:59
says, still the best podcast in the universe. John Burrell,
2:25:03
Vista, California 100. And there is Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Archduke
2:25:07
of Luna, Love of America and Boobs with a boob
2:25:09
donation, $80.08. And he says, Love of America and Boobs.
2:25:13
We know it. Charles Tracy, Hickory, North Carolina, $63.25. And
2:25:17
Les Tarkowski comes in, as always, with the small boobs,
2:25:20
$60.06 from Kingman, Arizona. Sir Paul in Twickenham in Great
2:25:25
Britain, 55-55. He misses JCD, but love that no agenda
2:25:30
lives on, Sir Paul from Twickenham. Double nickels on the
2:25:33
dime from Sir Canebrake and Dame Tracy in Louisiana. Thank
2:25:37
you. Foster Birch, 5272 from New York, New York. John
2:25:40
Bassano in Madison, Alabama. 5272. Sir Luke Rayner from London
2:25:46
with 5151. Loving the competition amongst your co-hosts. Competition for
2:25:50
what? It's not an open audition. There's no gig. Glad
2:25:55
you're still here. Collective karma for all. Sir Luke Rayner,
2:25:58
the Duke of London and the Southeast. I'll give that
2:26:00
now, actually. Why not? you've got karma And we're at
2:26:07
the 50s. Joshua Johnson from Omaha, Nebraska. Terrence Clark from
2:26:11
Jacksonville Beach, Florida. Nathan Knoll from Nederland, Texas. Tony Lang
2:26:16
from Castle Pines, Colorado. And there's Linda Lupatkin from Castle
2:26:20
Rock, Colorado. And she, of course, is the Duchess of
2:26:23
Jobs and writer of resumes that gets results at ImageMakers,
2:26:26
Inc., www.inmanchiaacresinc.com. Daniel LaBoye with 50. Dame Rita Harrington. Dame
2:26:33
Rita from Sparks, Nevada. 50. ITM Curry and Dvorak families.
2:26:36
We always break for Dame Rita. We're listening and donating
2:26:39
to the Knowage and the show since 2021. I've reached
2:26:41
the status of Archduchess according to the period's chart. Wow.
2:26:46
Please, if I may, and you may, I'd like to
2:26:48
claim the title of Dame Rita, Archduchess of Northern Nevada
2:26:52
Basin and Range. I hear so by granted, Dame Rita.
2:26:56
We'll get to it in a moment. Aichi Katagawa is
2:26:58
in San Francisco, California, as always, with the $50 and
2:27:01
finishing up our list for today. Never under $50 for
2:27:05
reasons of anonymity, but we see you $49.99. Sir Michael
2:27:09
Snohomish, Washington. And that concludes all of our donors for
2:27:13
episode 1908. Thank you all so much. It is highly
2:27:16
appreciated by the Curry and Dvorak families. When you get
2:27:20
the value, send it back. We appreciate it. We also
2:27:22
share it with our guest hosts. And that's not just
2:27:25
in the green room with all the tasty snacks. Noagendadonations.com.
2:27:29
You can send any amount whenever you feel like you
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got value. Send it back. to us, consider setting up
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a recurring donation, any amount, any frequency. NoagendaDonations.com It's your
2:27:39
birthday, birthday On A couple on the list today, Sir
2:27:45
Robertson of Two Sticks, he celebrates today. Shayla wishes her
2:27:48
smoking hot, hot husband. Dwayne, a very happy one, he
2:27:52
turns 39 tomorrow. And Lynn Malinowski turned, well we don't
2:27:56
have a date for Lynn, but she celebrates on October
2:27:59
6th. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast
2:28:02
in the universe. It's your birthday. Yeah! Oh, we have
2:28:07
title changes. Title changes. Turn and face. That's Stranger's Don't
2:28:16
want to be a douchebag. That's right, official changes. Sir
2:28:19
Baron John Helmer now becomes a Viscount, and Dame Rita,
2:28:23
as you just heard, now officially becomes Dame Rita, Archduchess
2:28:27
of Northern Nevada, Basin, and Range. Congratulations to you both,
2:28:32
and thank you very much for your never-ending and ongoing
2:28:34
support. Now, for the challenge coin... All these people will
2:28:38
get a credit, and I'm going to continue to do
2:28:40
that on the show notes. Thank you very much for
2:28:43
supporting the families here. Sir Baron John Helmer, Robert Alter,
2:28:48
Kyle Dugan, Patrick Cronin, Sir Psychopath, Sir David Fugisoto, Gary
2:28:52
Whitehead, Red Knight Commodore Jason, Stephen Riley, R.C. Maus. Sir
2:28:57
Chris of Cascadia, Alex Boites, Michael Wendell, the Lopez's and
2:29:02
Chris Ruddy. And we do have a knighting on deck.
2:29:06
Shayla sent in a note and says, hey there. I
2:29:09
wanted to give a birthday shout out to my smoking
2:29:11
hot husband, which we just did. Dwayne for his 39th
2:29:14
time around the sun on October 2nd. Can I please
2:29:17
give him? Oh, you want a biscuit for his birthday?
2:29:19
Yes. You got a biscuit for his birthday. Here we
2:29:22
go. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.
2:29:25
I also realized in writing this that I forgot to
2:29:28
send a request to, for myself for damehood from a
2:29:32
while back would it be possible to give my husband
2:29:35
the knighthood instead of course I'd like to nominate him
2:29:38
as Sir Duane of the Porcelain Throne. We've been listening
2:29:41
to your show since before COVID and appreciate all you've
2:29:44
been doing to enforce critical thinking and primary sources when
2:29:47
dealing with the M5M. Please keep up all the hard
2:29:50
work. You guys are fantastic. Love from Shayla. Okay, Shayla,
2:29:54
so I have one blade that I'm bringing out for
2:29:56
your hobby. And of course we
2:30:00
have RC Mouse who needs to hop up on the
2:30:02
podium. So Dwayne, get up here and RC Mouse. Gentlemen,
2:30:05
thanks to a wonderful gifting and your own support of
2:30:08
the No Agenda Show in the amount of $1,000 or
2:30:11
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2:30:13
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And also a certificate of authenticity. And congratulations. Welcome to
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the roundtable of the No Agenda Knights and Names. No
2:31:09
Agenda Meetups. All right, we have a meetup taking place
2:31:18
today in Raleigh. It's the Rocktober meetup at 6 o'clock,
2:31:22
Saints and Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina. Tomorrow, Saturday, actually,
2:31:26
we have the Midlands UK meetup, 8 a.m. Hello, a.m.
2:31:30
The pub will be open, I'm sure. Actually, it's not
2:31:32
going to be a pub. It's in Leicestershire. Lester, Lester,
2:31:36
I'm sorry, Lester, not Lester, sure, Lester. And you need
2:31:39
to contact Dr. B for information. So get on the
2:31:42
stick quickly because it's Saturday morning. What are they doing?
2:31:46
Will a pinata and a donkey be involved? Our next
2:31:49
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Long Barrel Safety Meetup. Oh, sounds like some pew-pews. Two
2:31:56
o'clock. Oh, that is Dame Maria and Sir Mark of
2:32:00
the Greenwood organizing that. So you've got to go to
2:32:04
noagendameetups.com to RSVP. um that sounds like a hootenanny get
2:32:09
your guns out everybody i'm looking forward to a great
2:32:11
meetup report for that and for the rest of the
2:32:14
month october on the 9th los baños california the 10th
2:32:18
we've got three fort wayne indiana eagle idaho and soquel
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california The 15th, Charlotte, North Carolina. The 16th, Scottsdale, Arizona.
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The 17th, Long Beach, California. And, of course, Fredericksburg, Texas.
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We hope you will join us at J6 or Jenny's
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1776 bar. 21st, Orlando, Florida. The 24th, Los Altos, California.
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And the 24th as well in Tilburg, the Netherlands. That
2:32:40
is just a smattering. of meetups that are available. If
2:32:43
you go to knowagenda.meetups.com, you can get all the information
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there. It's free to go. It's free to start. There's
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no requirements other than you go there, have a good
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time, meet people, because these people, the people you meet
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there, These will be connections that give you protection. They
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will be your first responders in any emergency. NoagendaMeetups.com. If
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you can't find one near you, start one yourself. It's
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always easy and guaranteed a party. And I do have
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an ISO for the end of show. I'm not going
2:33:29
to preview it for you because... Face it, it's just
2:33:32
an ISO for the end of the show. You'll like
2:33:34
it. Only one end of show mix. I made them
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all myself today. Okay. because no one sent anything in.
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I think people are sick of themselves making it. But
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I had a lot of fun coming up with the
2:33:45
lyrics just to make everything go smoother. I'm sorry if
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you hate it. Just fast forward. It won't hurt you.
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I guarantee you it won't hurt you. Coming up next
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on the No Agenda Stream, thank you, Sir Bemrose. We
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get to do this. Episode number 52, which is titled
2:34:04
Doomerang. I think you'll enjoy that. I certainly enjoy doing
2:34:08
it with Pastor Jimmy, WGTDT.com, and... I will return on
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Sunday with Sir Ducifer, Rob Dew. We'll be rocking and
2:34:16
rolling for you. We'll break down the crazy world around
2:34:19
you, deconstruct some media, and have a few laughs. Until
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then, please remember us at noagendedonations.com. And remember... Adios mofos
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And a hooey hooey And such